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skip
03-13-2007, 01:10 AM
I found this article online tonight. It's about artists affects on local economies and neighborhoods. It's old news to me in a sense and probably quite a few of you here . I have dodged gentrification since before the .com shit changed San Fran and the rest of the bay area same with Mammoth Lakes. I lived in Silverlake til it got too expensive to raise a kid and be an artist. I am preparing for the same here in Oregon over the next 5 years or so. This time I invested in property though... lol...


Creative types are essential to urban and regional economic growth. Here's why artists are an indicator of coming gentrification -- and the 10 cities artists should flock to now.

By Maya Roney, BusinessWeek

Want to know where a great place to invest in real estate will be five or 10 years from now? Look at where artists are living now.

Sociologists and policymakers have long touted art and culture as a cure-all to economically depressed neighborhoods, cities and regions. The reason? It has been proved that artists -- defined as self-employed visual artists, actors, musicians, writers, etc. -- can stimulate local economies in a number of ways.

Artists are often an early sign of neighborhood gentrification. "Artists are the advance guard of what's hip and cool," says Bert Sperling, the founder and president of Sperling's Best Places, based in Portland, Ore., and the compiler of BusinessWeek.com's list of the Best Places for Artists in America.

Creativity leads to growth

Artists, because of their typically lower incomes, usually need to seek out cheaper neighborhoods where they can afford the rent. But because of their creativity, they are able to fix up these areas, eventually attracting hip boutiques, galleries and restaurants. Not all artists are starving. Though some achieve success through writing, acting, painting or dancing, others get tired of scraping by as waiters or bartenders and sometimes apply their abilities in more-entrepreneurial ways.

Anne Markusen, an economist and professor at the University of Minnesota's Humphrey Institute of Public Affairs and a leading researcher on the effects of the arts on regional economics, once profiled an abstract painter whose work is now displayed on ceilings and in MRI machines in hospitals across the country. In Markusen's research, artists have also been found to stimulate innovation on the part of their suppliers. For example, a painter may need a certain type of frame that is not manufactured, forcing the frame maker to create a design that happens to also work well for other artists.

But Markusen also maintains that artists bring more than culture to a community. "Businesses don't often understand the extent to which art affects them," Markusen says. "(Artists) are just as important as science and technology companies."

Nonarts businesses also use artist contractors to improve product design, help with marketing or even use dramatic theory to solve employee relationship issues. Being a cultural center also helps local businesses attract employees who want to be able to regularly go to the ballet or the theater, hear authors read from their latest books or attend art-gallery openings.

Follow the money

Due to the individual nature and economics of their work, artists are also some of the most itinerant professionals out there. When relocating, they often look for cities and towns that already have high concentrations of artists and a young and racially and ethnically diverse population. The presence of a nurturing art community in the form of art societies and centers is also essential, especially to young artists.

A low cost of living is important, but many artists make financial sacrifices to live near an art-rich urban center or in a cheaper neighborhood. Few struggling artists can now afford to live in neighborhoods like New York's SoHo and Greenwich Village, or even Williamsburg, which once were artistic havens before attracting wealthier residents. Now you are more likely to find New York-based artists in the Bronx, Brooklyn or even Philadelphia.

In addition to the presence of like-minded individuals, proximity to wealth is also important. The fact of the matter is that artists can seldom earn a living, let alone become rich, selling to other artists. They need wealthy benefactors to buy their paintings or support their local symphony, which explains why each of the places in the U.S. that we found to be the best for artists are in or near centers of wealth.

Los Angeles, No. 1 on our list, is most commonly associated with the film industry. While the city provides great opportunities for actors and directors, there are equally rich prospects for musicians, artists, writers and dancers. Of course, the majority of these people can't afford to live in Beverly Hills -- at least not until they get their big break -- and instead opt for more affordable digs in areas such as Echo Park.

Where to go now

BusinessWeek.com and Sperling's Best Places came up with a list of the best places for artists in the U.S. by identifying the metro areas that have the highest concentrations of artistic establishments. We also looked at the percentage of people ages 25 to 34, population diversity and concentration of museums, philharmonic orchestras, dance companies, theater troupes, library resources and college arts programs. A lower cost of living played a part in the selection of some cities but had to be overlooked elsewhere because of other very favorable factors.

Some of the top 10 are traditional art "supercities." One reason Los Angeles leads the list is because it has 56 artistic establishments for every 100,000 people, a diversity index of 84.2 and an arts-and-culture index of 100 (on a scale of 1 to 100). New York City and San Francisco are also in the top 10. Other places are midsize cities such as hippie havens Santa Fe, N.M., and Boulder, Colo., and country-music nucleus Nashville, Tenn. Smaller, less obvious additions include Carson City, Nev., which ranks third for its high concentration of arts establishments, and Kingston, N.Y., in the Hudson River Valley.

Ready to quit your day job and make art your profession? These metro areas are good places to start. With all the economic benefits you'll be providing, they should welcome you with open arms.

The top 10 places for artists (click on the links to read more about each locale):

Los Angeles
Santa Fe, N.M.
Carson City, Nev.
New York
Kingston, N.Y.
Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, Calif.
Nashville, Tenn.
Boulder, Colo.
San Francisco
Nassau-Suffolk counties, N.Y.


http://realestate.msn.com/Buying/Article_busweek.aspx?cp-documentid=3666683&GT1=9226

tristanr
03-13-2007, 03:21 AM
cool info thanks

Zed
03-13-2007, 03:50 AM
Sweet, I already live in a place on the list, don't have to move or nuthin.

I would hardly qualify Boulder as "low rent" though, maybe 15 years ago... These days the average cost of a bedroom (in a house with roomates that'll probably piss you off) is like $650 a month. Then again I know bartenders who make that in tips most nights, so I guess its all relative...

Chris Carlson
03-13-2007, 07:27 AM
i had to move last summer.

gravdigr
03-13-2007, 08:34 AM
mmm, gotta love low rent. I think last year my wife and I cleared about $16k combined and we live rather comfortable. Though since we work for her parents until they retire there are some perks that make living on such a low wage doable...things like the company taking my vehicle on it's insurance, her parents (the boss) having us over for supper every weeknight, getting free use of all the company equipment whenever I need (backhoe, 18' car hauler, dumptrucks, flatbed truck with liftgate, riding lawnmowers, etc... We are actually using a company building to do glass in). So it all evens out and I bitch a lot about wearing no less than 10 hats in the business yet still only getting paid minimum wage for 35 hours a week but in the end once they retire I will be set up just peachy to take over. Wonder if I can handle 3 cemeteries, a monument company, and a glassblowing business? :crazy:

dislexei
03-13-2007, 08:49 AM
ah Bohemians, But to me the realestate in all those neighborhoods are at a real high rate. Even away from downtown manhattan, flats are going for around 600,000. Rent for a 1 bedroom in brooklyn is 1,300.
The only cheap places are out in the straight up ghetto. I guess the idea is to buy on the edge. Where the ghetto/dark meets the yuppy.

I don't like sounding racist. But thats the only way i can explain it. Different life styles. But the dark neighborhoods are cheaper, and the yuppy hoods are expensive. But i do see a mixing ground on the edge. Where it's multi racial. Where a lot of the artists live.
You don't want to be in the ghetto, you don't want to be in the expensive neighborhoods. You want that meeting point, that front.

Gibsons Glassworks
03-13-2007, 09:04 AM
i live in a downtown location in my small town ( 40,000 people) and i pay $850 a month rent for a 950 square foot retail/residential location. one of very few around here so im luckey i can work, sell and live all in the same location and my power is included in the rent! i think im getting a pretty steller deal.

phab
03-13-2007, 09:11 AM
...i think the lady that wrote that article is smokin crack.

newmexicomagma
03-13-2007, 10:18 AM
well im in albuquerque which is a hour south of santa fe i own my own home and my payments r jst under 800 month. thats a 3 bedroom 2 car garage and 2 bath with a decent yard. im selling my house now and am going to move to the mountains get like 10 acres with a house and a shop and my payments wont be more than 1000. its pretty affordable out here and it is beautiful.

phab
03-13-2007, 10:33 AM
...yeah santa fe and a couple of places she mentioned in new york sound about right but some of those other places are exxpensive.
i know the town of carson city and it aint no artist heaven.

FredLight
03-13-2007, 11:03 AM
C'mon, Carson City? What about the dirt track races at Silver State Raceway?

LOL, just kidding.....

phab
03-13-2007, 11:13 AM
...there used to be some artists out in dayton, an old mining town some hippies took over in the early 70's. there are probably a few artists hangin out in virginia city and there may be 1 or 2 kick ass artists somewhere there in the valley but yeah bubba is alive and well in that part of the state. the captain and teniel live in washoe valley. theyre artists, right?

ive heard some about prescott arizona being a nice artist community but all i could find on the net about it made it look a bit spendy but seems like everything is these days.

Spider
03-13-2007, 11:25 AM
Hey Skip,

Thanks for the article although I'd have to agree with PHap on wondering about the author & crack. Like you, I traded the Bay area for the Sierra.

Thousand Oaks, you've got to be kidding - I grew up there and watched it turn into a very rich suburb of LA. San Francisco - that's whack crack - artists can't even afford Emeryville anymore. Etc. Etc.... I think the author's list is more appropriate for the real estate speculators now rather than for artists.

As an artist, it may even be too late for Todos Santos, Baja. Could be the next international Carmel. A four-lane highway planned for Cabo to La Paz will make even that outpost pricy some say. Now if I could only figure out why the Mayans are building a total-being resort/spa etc. center on the coast there when they declare 2012 as the day of reckoning or whatever.

Then again maybe we glass guys need to go to the Czech Republic - the last bastion of glass casting.

I was very saddened to see the abandoned glass factories along the Ohio River when I visited years ago. Maybe some coop & adventurous efforts by artists will come to the rescue of many of these dying towns & cities.

Then you have to look at what it was about the US and its environmentalists & trade policies, & consumer habits that made it impossible for a Fostoria to stay in business anyway.

Skip - you hit the nail on the head though about investing in property. I don't care if all you can buy is a spot to park your van down by the river, it is almost always better that paying rent to the man - any town. any state, anywhere.

The web is really helping artists be able to actually flee the ghettos of the city, this blog incuded - so thanks to all.

Spider (we're everywhere)

UmaJulz
03-13-2007, 11:27 AM
Sweet, I already live in a place on the list, don't have to move or nuthin.

I would hardly qualify Boulder as "low rent" though, maybe 15 years ago... These days the average cost of a bedroom (in a house with roomates that'll probably piss you off) is like $650 a month. Then again I know bartenders who make that in tips most nights, so I guess its all relative...

Boulder wasn't even Low-rent back in the 80s when I lived there. Even less attractive places like Longmont or Lafayette weren't all that cheap either. but proximity to wealth, guess that's what pays the bills.

Well, and Santa Fe ain't cheap. You can't even afford to live there if you aren't making way more than min wage. Even little hippie towns, former mining ghost towns like Madrid are becoming more high rent than the locals can afford, due to the gentrification and the 'artist's enclaves'. Madrid used to be so peaceful, quiet, and now, no local wants to be in town while the tourists are about. And not many locals are actually benefitting from this huge influx of traffic, and supposedly, money.

I wouldn't say that the author was totally in touch with reality...

jello
03-13-2007, 03:26 PM
I grew up in Oakland/Emeryville.
When I moved away 5 years ago i was paying 450.00 inc/utls for a 2 bedroom apt. I lived there for 12 years and my rent started out at 300.00 but small increases... the owner was more then happy to see me leave, he even payed for the moving truck so i could leave faster. the unit was renting for 1900.00!!!! the guy upstairs from me was paying 1700.00 for the same floorplan that i had...

When I lived in Emeryville i was paying 250.00 for a warehouse and loved it. They since "upgraded the prop to lofts"..lol lofts thats the cool way of saying warehouse..

But now im in Anchorage and the rent up here is spendy.... i pay 1200.00 for a 3 bedroom on 2.5 acers with a 2000SF shop. so i guess its pretty cheap...

newmexicomagma
03-13-2007, 05:22 PM
u r so correct uma. i know a guy that does offhand work in madrid and he is selling his shop. the movie wild hogs was filmed there and he says that since then that buisness has gone down the hole. to me the thing with santa fe is it isnt reletively far. alot of new mexico is cheap and beautiful. u can find a place in the east mountains, or albuquerque for unser 800 amonth. i think its sad but it seems that the art community in madrid is slowly dying off. good ol hollywood.

PortlandGlassBlowers
03-13-2007, 07:51 PM
I dont know if you have heard how crazy Mammomth Lakes is, but its fuckin crazy now. When we lived there we could get a a frame for 600 or 700. Now its likw 12 or 13 for a apartment. Fucking richy riches have fucked that town for the locals. You have to be sponsered or live with all kind of fools to even make it there.

SteppingRazor
03-13-2007, 11:30 PM
Here in Buffalo NY we got numerous buildings and factories that have been out of operation for years. Some keen urban developers began programs to rent them out as art studios years ago.
The most well known one is the Tri-Main building. It used to house a Trico plant, which has long since moved to mexico.

http://www.trimaincenter.com/

anyways after about 10 years of use its a pretty hopping place. Every year there is an open house and thousands of people show up for this giant party. it's full of worknig artists/crafters. There are metal workers, paper makers, jewlery smiths, sculptors and painters among others.

The old pierce-arrow plant does something similiar, there's a lamper that has a shop in there.

Still this was'nt enough to radically change the east side of Buffalo, the industries that once sustained this city are long gone. Crafters and Artisians just don't employee enough people to build back a missing middle class in a city.

however housing here is so cheap that I can own a house and pay for it (most of the time) with lamping and working PT at 11$ an hour. This whole area is great for Artists that do most of their sales on the web.
~joe