Bob Snodglass

[drewspuppet]

I just found this on the Snodgrass website:

http://www.snodgrass.net/index.html

"There is no doubt that Bob Snodgrass is the godfather of artistic hard glass in this country. In North America, Eugene, Oregon is the mecca for artist boro glass (Pyrex, Duran, Kimble glass). There is no greater concentration of glass artist then there. This is due to the presence of Bob Snodgrass and his students. His dedication to quality art has earned him much respect in the community. Some of the glassblowers in the area can trace their roots back to Bob, and almost all of them get their tools from Snodgrass Glass Supply, Bob's tool company."

Seems a bit much. Wow, I had no idea. I haven't been to Eugene lately but I remember back in '94 + '95 when there were blowers then i don't think they were all Snod's students they may have roots too.

Bob's tool company must be the shiznit if almost all the glassblowers there get their tools from him.

I bitch: if Bob really is the shiznit (and I'm sure he is to the people who know him) he should care about his image and get a better looking and sounding website and should put some pics of glass pieces that actually look like they're at the top of the industry. He really needs some P.R. work.

It says on the site his specialty is marbles... yet only pics of pipes, fumed work of course which may prove great for the owner but don't look that great on the web.

Now I just wanted to rip on his site not the artist or the man.. but I would like to get a chance to see glass from him that impresses me like zillions of pages of glassartists.org will do for me.

A legend he may be a pioneer it's possible the industry may have passed him by or else he needs a better gallery.

How can I look up to the man if he doesn't take the time to put any niceness into his website, which is for most of us the only avenue to reach him or his work.

Bob if you're reading this I'll help you out with your website if you trade me for some of your fuming knowledge skills ;)

[The Lorax]

what is so special about bob's work? is it because he is a oldschool fellow who pretty much had to work from scratch with no help or something, or because the colors back then were less compatible?
not hating, just confused.

[drewspuppet]

because he is a oldschool fellow who pretty much had to work from scratch

I think that says it all for the respect factor. True that.

I wonder if he has continued to grow as the industry has grown so much.

[LoneWolfandSon]

when bob started there were no colors. i dont know him but come on let him be himself. if hes happy with his site, his work up on his site let him be.

[Glacier_Arts_Studio]

talk about looking down your nose...

thinking your own or anyones art is better or worse is only an illusion...

if you want to be impressed,

get your hand out of your undies and your ass out of your chair,

and go impress yourself but, remember that your illusions are your own...

Respect, thats what impresses me and most others as well...

[drewspuppet]

true.

I probably wouldn't be lamping if he hadn't come around anyway to push the industy through.

Sorry it sounded like I was bitching it doesn't happen often I just want the best for him as I owe a lot to him.

[Glacier_Arts_Studio]

true.

I probably wouldn't be lamping if he hadn't come around anyway to push the industy through.

Sorry it sounded like I was bitching it doesn't happen often I just want the best for him as I owe a lot to him.

i could spend all day with what i know and what could be said on this but,

i have other things to consider. i do how ever have these few things for

everyone to think about...

a. with every piece i've ever sold to a user of my functional art, this
has been the first question... "is it color changing glass.???"

b. abstract and suggestive art, either you get it or you don't...
it's the old, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" kinda thing...

c. even my very first (really poopy) pieces sold for the same price as,
the things i make with the same techniques now... and now things are
straight and the holes are round, the stretch marks are flame polished,
the colors are no longer boiled or, turned to creamy poop...
all and all, compared to those first few pieces, i now turn out a
Superior product to say the least but, they are no more valued than
the poop from the beginning...

d. i (as we as every glass blower i know) can sell more low end things
than i care to produce, while my high end stuffs, just sits in the shop,
waiting for the big bucks to scoop them up for less than it's worth...


P.S. try that dragon inside the steam roller trick... and not with a
"new bread torch" but, with a national 3a or a 8m or, even a old school beth...
i have a snodgrass, 31 hole, premix tip... i brought it back from the depths of
hell and gave it new life... it you don't reach for the stars, all you will ever have
in your hand is your own balls... and if your reaching for your own star,
you will find very little time to fuck with anyone elses dream...

[nodice]

From the site....

"Bob says, .....I found that silver and gold could be blended and sprayed into the glass. A new technique of spraying metals into glass changed the parameters of color possibilities." With such beautiful results, as well as smokers preference towards glass paraphernalia, the glass market soared. "

.....

[drewspuppet]

I say things that make me sound like an asshole sometimes....

but I just wanted the Official Bob Snodgrass Website
to be a mega mecca of a site; you know, that site you could spend hours drooling over and learning from. photos and information, a super glass site that weights 10 tons and stands as tall as the legend.

[Rojas]

are you freakin serious?!?!?!?!? whatever expectations you had of his website are pretty damn foolish! and your gonna talk shit about his work? im pretty sure most of can trace our roots as glassblowers back to bob snodgrass. just because he doesnt have anything to prove is why he doesnt make a piece with 8 million spirals on it. all that is, the only reason everyone does it, is because we all want to prove that we can. but if you wanna talk about innovating and pushing the limits, well bob did that before most of us even knew what a glasspipe was! before you talk shit, go hang out with the man and see who he is and why most of us have mad respect for him.

[PyroChixRock]

"There is no doubt that Bob Snodgrass is the godfather of artistic hard glass in this country. In North America, Eugene, Oregon is the mecca for artist boro glass (Pyrex, Duran, Kimble glass). There is no greater concentration of glass artist then there. This is due to the presence of Bob Snodgrass and his students. His dedication to quality art has earned him much respect in the community. Some of the glassblowers in the area can trace their roots back to Bob, and almost all of them get their tools from Snodgrass Glass Supply, Bob's tool company."

word

[nodice]

....

[sunray]

Not all of us are from the computer era.. Yet we survive.
Some peoples Web sites are great but they still don't know what Bob does about Glass..

[blazeoffire]

My Props go out to Bob Snoddy , why would you even be disscusing him negatively? He is the reason we all can do this today. Go pick on Nomad or something...

[phab]

...props to bob snodgrass who IS the guy at the base of the whole scene. his life has been all about glass and hes probably forgot more about glass than some of his critics will ever know.

[dislexei]

I think you either know and apreciate him or you don't. He gets by just fine with out a fancy web site. This older guy gave me Bobs number and told me stories of how he helped Bob build his first studio bus. Told me about how he added copper fillings to the glass. He has a stead fast knowledge and a style all of his own.

[drewspuppet]

Hey I forgot to take my meds last night. It happens.

One time I forgot to take my meds and I tried to walk to California.
That didn't go too well either.

[ACE]

man that picture of him on the front page of his site is $$$

[Racer X]

Bob can surprise you... don't let his webpage or his PR fool you.

I wonder if he's coming to GAS this year... I owe him a beer... and I wouldn't mind if he and Marie came by my shop. I doubt he even remembers me... I used to show up with a few beers and buy tools and such.

I agree, he needs a new look to the webpage that brings us up to date. I saw some sculptural stuff he was doing more than a few years ago (man it's been a while). It was very cool stuff and I was hoping to see more of it.

Bob is a really nice guy and he has a hell of a sense of humor.

I do know one thing. Someone else owns his domain name and won't give it back to him. So I think that kind of pissed him off, at least last I heard.

[Pilgrim]

BoB is like the living God of eugene glass blowers , he is a hughe welth of info. he started the whole fumming trick...and when in eugene bobs name rules over all the others we all owe him money , if it wasnt for him we woulodnt have color changing glass
dont talk shit about bob ...or i will come clean your nose
Scottland Fowler,FredHead Glass.

[Cosmo]

I have never met Bob. I hope to some day, but who knows.

Perhaps, however, he is too busy blowing glass to worry about having an ultra-high-tech web site.

I have what I think are decent web sites, but that's what I do for a living. If I could blow glass like Bob, you'd never find me near a computer.

[CripSkillz]

Hey Drew befor ya bag on someone elses web site you might want to fix your it sux asssss, I wouldnt trade you my fuming knowledge, for your site work, and I dont know shit!!

Just a thought

[puddletown]

dont you get an infraction for being a dumbass? or at least talking shit about Bob?

[skip]

Bob is the reason most people here blow glass. With the help of Dead tour he paved the road we walk on. His willingness to share techniques did make Eugene a mecca for glass. Euegene is a special place. HE did't bring all the people here. He was living amongst them, like minded counter culturalists. Many people have moved to Eugene to be part of the movement and maybe because of him. I have a few tools from Bob. I would rather buy my tools from him and even pay a few bucks more for them than buy them elsewhere.

Don't forget to take your meds. And hell yeah that is an automatic infraction... thats like biting the hand that feeds you.

When your work sells itself without having to wander much more than to your backyard or a few miles in town, you don't really need a fancy website.

[Glacier_Arts_Studio]

I have never met Bob. I hope to some day, but who knows.

Perhaps, however, he is too busy blowing glass to worry about having an ultra-high-tech web site.

I have what I think are decent web sites, but that's what I do for a living. If I could blow glass like Bob, you'd never find me near a computer.

here, here... i knew of Bob, long before i even thought of blowing glass...
perhaps that is because i'm 49 years old this year and
perhaps it is because i'm just a tree hugging hippie that love the dead...
whatever the case, bob's got love, coming and going...

maybe you should ask your doctor about a pump for your meds...
set it and forget it...

very few people will ever have the place of honor the is bob's

[jello]

Bob is a great guy and great teacher... and lets not forget Hugh, who also is a a bad ass blower and teacher.
I would not worry too much about his site.

Ive been working on a site for Bob since Oct. and when you see it it will blow you away.
It's a community based site and will launch in the next few months.

[Pilgrim]

yes yes yes ....hugh is one cool MO FO

welcome at my camp fire any time..

[Pilgrim]

hello, they both are cool Mo FO's

[mer]

i'm sure there are people in eugene who can't trace their teachers lineage back to bob........ but i've never met one.

[ech]

I met Bob Snodgrass in 1990 when he showed up for the first time on Grateful Dead tour with his first pipes. I had just got a settlement for an accident so I had alot of cash and I bought a bunch of nice peices from him. I Hung out in Eugene between tours back then so I asked him if he was willing to teach. He was not teaching at that time but about a year later a whole bunch of my friends became his first batch of students, sadly I had left the west coast by then.
He invented fuming which fueled the glass pipe industry. The glass pipe industry financed the borosilicate color industry so that we have what we have today. If you use colored borosilicate glass then you owe a thank you to Bob Snodgrass.

[PyroChixRock]

i'm sure there are people in eugene who can't trace their teachers lineage back to bob........ but i've never met one.

My teaching roots don't actually go back to bob, they go to homer hoyt...that guy that wrote the blue "glassblowing" book.

But! I worked for jerome baker for awhile under jason harris and that goes back to bob. ;) I learned things there so some of my roots go back to him, too.

I also made pipes for many years and a great deal of that movement that fed me and my family for all those years I credit to bob.

thanks bob! you rock baby! :blowkiss:

[Nightcat]

Bob is a super nice guy. I got a chance to talk to him and his wife several times at the EGS flame offs over the years. I am an absolute nobody in the glass world and they treated me like a friend. I have so much repect for them both. Does their daughter have long blond dredlocks? If so I met her too, a nice person either way.

Most people have no idea what it takes to be a complete original. I'm not sure I have ever done anything original... Mad props to Bob for having the balls to do his own thing!

~R

[Nightcat]

I can trace my roots back to Misha...........

The original Forum really did open my eye to the potential of this art. I had been doing beads for a few years but when I discovered that Forum my direction totally changed.

I don't post much but I have been plodding along none the less...

Back to your regularly scheduled program.

~Ross

[The Lorax]

oh thats badass, never knew he invented fuming... i love fume work!!

[misled youth]

i believe he put fuming into pipe's, not invented it all together. i could be wrong but doubt it. my roots dont go back to bob, but i do know his work.
i think colored glass would have come either way, maybe not as soon as it did but it would have come.
i am sure he helped get pipes more mainstream but think that several peeps were involved.

[Zed]

Bob has a sick artistic/functional glass collection too. Been collecting his whole life. Its worthwhile to visit him in Glenwood just to see his collection.

Back in the day Bob shop pieces were the sickest shizzle to be had. I still don't know any blowers who can make IO scenery pieces as good as Bob Batrum (oldschool Snodgrass apprentice) Him and Dave Strobel are still my favorite oldschool pipe artists.

If your in Eugene and you gots some spare loot, stop by and buy a piece from Bob. He's a cool guy and we all owe him lots of thanks.

[David Sandidge]

I was fuming way before 1990. Although I can't say who invented it, I would venture to say that it's an ancient technique.

[mer]

I was fuming way before 1990. Although I can't say who invented it, I would venture to say that it's an ancient technique.

actually, i believe bob started fuming back in the 70's. don't poop on bob's love fest man!


edit; i just called over to the shop and his wife believes he began working with fuming in 1980 or 1981. live and learn. btw, thats how cool they are over there... just call and ask and somebody is sure to be helpful.

[phab]

...yeah, i seem to remember a skull with a tophat piece in the 70s. they were in every headshop that i knew of at the time.

[Pilgrim]

bob rules
my roots go back to david willis and bob snodgrass.

[Rojas]

I was fuming way before 1990. Although I can't say who invented it, I would venture to say that it's an ancient technique.

from what bob told me ten years ago, was that people were using silver nitrate and some form of gold that was very toxic to fume glass before he came up with using solid forms of gold and silver (coins) to fume with. he said he came up with this in the early 80's. i personally have smoked out of a piece that bob made in 1983 that was fumed silver and gold

[Nokey]

bob snodgrass in seattle working on the biggest marble he's been involved with.
fumed 3 skulls into it. The size of a bowling ball when in was done. 4 people involved thruout the day(took most of it)

One hell of a party that night!

Thanks goes out to Emmet (Emmet's Glass) And Bob Snodgrass for inspiring me to put my hands in the flame in 1995-96?

[LoneWolfandSon]

holy shit thats a marble! is that boro or soft?

[boxfan willy]

Wow, I really can't believe any negativity around Bob. He doesn't need or deserve that energy at all. Bob and Marie are two of the kindest souls I have ever met. They took in this crazy, spun out kid from Texas(broke and homeless), gave him a place, let him work off his apprentice monies, set him up with a job, fed his starving, etc. etc.

I am literally crying right now(seriously) thinking of what the gravel sounded like when I walked towards bus for the first time. I would have nothing in the glass world if it wasn't for Bob and Marie. Prolly wouldn't have met my girl(met Jen on a sales run), or our beautiful children. There definitely would NOT have been a Flow magazine without Bob ands Marie.

Let's consider that for the better part of 15 years, they have had and endless group of us at their home. When is the last time you were at Bob's that others didn't show to give repsect, puff a bowl or buy a piece. That's a lot of years of loving the "kids" to let that into your life. Bob coulda cashed in. He didn't have to teach us all. He coulda stopped at Hugh and Cameron. But he gives the love back, and rightfully, it should come back to him.

So next time you look at a Bob piece, repect the roots. MAybe it's a bit wonky, but isn't the goal of every good teacher is that their students surpass them.
And if you think his marketing sucks, then you go to a head shop and sell a fumed spoon for $60. OR consider that you couldn't sell a spoon at all.

BOB, THANKS FOR OUR SNODDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND MARIE, God Bless

boxfan

[Rojas]

i think you got it right willy!

[Steve Sizelove]

Reading this thread made think about all who can directly, or indirectly, trace their roots to Bob. At the very least, Bob can be the flameworker's equivilent to the Kevin Bacon Game.

No hatin' here.

[slinger]

yo, dont eff with bob, he is the godfather.

and David Sandidge, when did you start fuming, bob has been doing it since the late 70's early 80's.... im sure its been around in different forms, im curious to hear your story.

[Zed]

The story I heard was that Bob learned fuming from a 60's marble maker? Roy Purser maybe?

There's some fumed pieces John Burton's book, which was published in the early 70's.

I don't think this scene will grow much more until peoples stop with all the h@tering. What was said about Bob has been kinda blown out of proportion, but truely there are alot of hating, whiney bishes in the lamping world. Step up and do your own thing, don't worry about what everyone else is doing.

[Racer X]

I don't percieve this as hating on Bob... I just think people who may not have had the pleasure of seeing him around and some of his work might not get the bigger picture from his web presence.

Bob helped me out greatly just by talking with me and keeping me excited about glass. He could have easily kept his mouth shut about stuff but he inspired a few folks to get on it. So there's that. And there are alot of other positives about him that are hard to address without knowing the Glenwood crew, where it all came from and why it was so exciting to learn about the world of glass from him. There wouldn't have been shit to get excited about if Bob wouldn't have been dishing out the info and recieving visitors. I probably never would have even thought much about sticking with glass without that info.

[Nokey]

holy shit thats a marble! is that boro or soft?
Soft glass

[ACE]

I don't think this scene will grow much more until peoples stop with all the h@tering. What was said about Bob has been kinda blown out of proportion, but truely there are alot of hating, whiney bishes in the lamping world. Step up and do your own thing, don't worry about what everyone else is doing.

i agree....

1. maybe a bit blown out of proportion, but i think a lot of the people responding are just plain offended that anyone would bring up his name in anything other than a positve light

2. there are a lot of haters. someone said in a recent thread that everybody needs to start respecting all the wonderful diversity in our little community or we wont progress within our community. well, thats not exactly what they said, but pretty much.

3. my roots don't go back to bob, but who cares??? you cannot deny that he was a pionner, and has done an endless amount of things for the glass community.

[seadal]

I can trace my roots back to Bob. I have never met him in person but I have talked to him on the phone back when I was making and selling tools. Nice guy. Site could use some work, but you can say that about everyones site. Even this one.

[phab]

....his web page isint all that bad. if you click the links there is lots of good reading there.
man i bet he made thousands of those tophat skull pipes back in the day and they were fumed so he had to be fuming prior to 1970.

[lsw]

He explains when he started working w/glass and fuming in the Taboo Glass Video. It is definately a good gallery vid I suggest checkin it out.

[misled youth]

i love how people's opinion's get referred to has "hating"
in my previous statement i typed things that i believe are true. i have never met the guy nor do i have anything to say that is bad about him. i just dont think he invented fuming. i do believe he may have been amongst the first to incorporate it into pipes. i do believe he was a pioneer in the pipe industry.

i also think alot of people here percieve things in typed in a different way then they were meant to be.

it seems as if someone doesent agree with with someone else they are a "hater"
damn that word is over used.

[PyroChixRock]

it's an expression. you know like when your buddy tells you he'll be in hawaii for a minute when really he means 2 weeks.

[Izzy Spun]

are you freakin serious?!?!?!?!? whatever expectations you had of his website are pretty damn foolish! and your gonna talk shit about his work? im pretty sure most of can trace our roots as glassblowers back to bob snodgrass. just because he doesnt have anything to prove is why he doesnt make a piece with 8 million spirals on it. all that is, the only reason everyone does it, is because we all want to prove that we can. but if you wanna talk about innovating and pushing the limits, well bob did that before most of us even knew what a glasspipe was! before you talk shit, go hang out with the man and see who he is and why most of us have mad respect for him.

Give him a break... He wasn't slamming Bob's artwork, he was just wanting to see more of it, in a fashion more representative of the man's great skillz.

[misled youth]

i am very familiar with the expression, i just think it is over used. lol i hear it on a daily basis. but it will go away and something new will take it's place.
lol i remember in the 80's things were "RAD" damn the 80's sucked.

[PyroChixRock]

I still say rad...all the time. :lol

[mer]

I still say rad...all the time. :lol

that's awesome.

[Izzy Spun]

I still say rad...all the time. :lol

Doesn't everyone.....I mean...it's still a hip word, right??? God I'm old...

[PyroChixRock]

Doesn't everyone.....I mean...it's still a hip word, right??? God I'm old...

I dunno. The dutch don't seem to like it...in fact my dutch friend gave me a lot of shit for it. :lol

[melt]

anyone here remember silver white?

[fyrsmith]

OK, I guess I have to put my oar in here too. I trace my roots to John Burton, my first teacher was a student of his at Pepperdine in 1972 or 1974 or so. I started in 1974, back when if you wanted color you made it from clear glass and metal oxides. (Compatability? We don't need no stinking compatability :) !) My first teacher was Ellen Goese and she taught fuming using silver nitrate, which I still use.
Now, before anyone goes off the deep end about toxicity, let me explain. If you touch a hot rod to a few crystals of AgNO3, it melts all over the end of the rod. If you then reintroduce the rod to the flame, the NO3 burns off and you are left with absolutely pure silver coating the end of the rod. Much easier than trying to get a piece of silver coin to stick to your rod. YES YOU DO NEED ADEQUATE VENTILATION!!!!! to pick up the NO3 as its first burned off and to pick up any silver fumes.
I have never met Bob, being pretty isolated in Alaska all these years, but he does sound like one of the great teachers of the early movement.
-Don-

[drewspuppet]

Hey Drew befor ya bag on someone elses web site you might want to fix your it sux asssss, I wouldnt trade you my fuming knowledge, for your site work, and I dont know shit!!

Just a thought

I'm just throwing this on this thread because it was here...

I looked at the hotasstools site:

My comments:

You have no text for search engines to find.. you're using all images. I have been taught this is bad.

Go to the site: http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/index.html

There you can find out the size of your pages, all files, images, etc.

The first page in your hotasstools site contains 29 images, dragging the download speed way down.... 7 seconds on a T1 connection allowing for lag time from confirming so many images...

This is almost 4 times the size of my index page and I have a shit load of graphics myself.

The site looks really good but is not browser friendly for people with slower connections (dial up would kill them) and I don't know how well the site will fair with search engines given there is no text to scan. Also, since the text is in an image, it can't be resized which is not web friendly.

Just for your info... keep up the good web graphics work you have skillz.

-Drew

[David Sandidge]

Well okay Slinger since you asked... Let's see, I can't be sure exactly, I started in glass in '79 and can't trace my roots to Bob. I was on the east coast in Va. Beach. As you know back then everything pretty much was clear except for paints and stains. We started using the fire on liquid gold soon after I began, maybe '81. Fuming was kinda like stumbled upon after trying to repair golded pieces. The gold blew a pink fume all over the piece if we weren't careful. Then sombody got the Idea to try and use it to our advantage. Before going with gold or silver coins, we just painted a rod real heavy with the fire on stuff and fumed with that. We had never seen pipes back then, at least nothing like they are today. Our version of a pipe was just a 4" long 8mm tube with a bowl on the end (all clear). They were disposable for us as they only took about 2 minutes to make. You could find them all around the school yard. We were all quite young. I was 15 years old when I first fired up a torch.

I probably never even heard of Snodgrass until the early 1990's when all of a sudden I started seeing pipes here and there. You pipers really got a jump on me and other east coast glassblowers with the colored boro. I think that it was Mickelsens work that first really opened my eyes to color though. I remember meeting him for the first time at an art show in the mid eighties. His work was all clear and sandblasted back then. No color at all. I don't recall if he was even working with tubing. It was great stuff though I must say. I was very inspired.

So although I wasn't influenced at all by Snodgrass, his legacy has made a great impression on me only coming to me much later in my carreer than I wish it had.

[CripSkillz]

ya well there are meta tags for the search engine and also if your on 56 Gay itll take bout 38 seconds , people on 56 K are used to that to see a good page, dont be lame check MSN home page in your handy lil checker Its just a lil smaller with many errors and takes 45 sec to load on 56k you think dial up people dont go to MSN come on , Hot ass tools page takes 38 sec, and sliced images are the shit you can keep it lookin pimp while reducing size where ya dont need it so dont beleve everything your checker tells ya,. or your teacher...

first you bag on Bob now you wana go head to head on web sites with me, come on drew get back on your meds your gona hurt your self

[drewspuppet]

Meta Tags aren't enough why not include the text it should be easy.. PM me if you want me to show you how to make your text box into a floating div with actual resizable text and keep your rounded corners... Your client might not be getting all it could without all the good text for search engines to grab on to.

Go to a web development forum and ask them to review your site. I wonder if you're right.. if your method is ok. I would be really surprised.


Also: your pages don't validate you might be able to fix the errors:
http://validator.w3.org/

I'm not trying to go head to head with you.

[drewspuppet]

I'm done with this thread. Sorry bob if I was talking bad about you I don't think I was. Want too see more.

This fucking thread negativity sucks.

[twunt(baylie AE)]

Bought my first torch out of his back yard, back in 94?95? Would not be where I am with out the net of knowlege he cast on the west coast.

[VinE]

My teaching roots don't actually go back to bob, they go to homer hoyt...that guy that wrote the blue "glassblowing" book.

I knew you were a carney! lol.

[ShepherdCreations]

I have tons of respect for Homer Hoyt too, why I use Glasscraft, and his kids are very awesome too. On the Snodgrass issue: I got to meet his wife at the Glasscraft & bead expo Saturday!! I was really excited, got to meet 2 of my glass idols too, Lewis Wilson and Bill Rasmussen, but I HAD to buy some of Snodgrass's stuff because his wife is just too cool and he really is a pioneer for the modern movement. Screw athletes or celebs, these are who I want on my Wheaties boxes!!!:D :evilLaugh

[Pilgrim]

I for got that a smal small bit of my roots go back to chriss shave, i for got about him cause i think he is a freeking turd

[gypsea]

I have tons of respect for Homer Hoyt too...2 of my glass idols too, Lewis Wilson and Bill Rasmussen... Snodgrass's... wife is just too cool and he really is a pioneer for the modern movement... Screw athletes or celebs, these are who I want on my Wheaties boxes!!!:D :evilLaugh

wouldn't that be too cool? glassblowers on cereal boxes....yeah.

[The Madhatter]

I know I'm resurrecting the dead here, but I was bored and stumbled upon it...

I followed the first link, then browsed around looking at the site.

If you check this link out, look at the first paragraph...

http://www.snodgrass.net/knowledge/safeman.html

Gook posture helps when blowing glass? hahahahaha I've gotta find me a Gook glass blower to watch. :rollin

Seriously though, much love to Bob!

[Rojas]

i still wanna tell drewspuppet to fuck off! i re-read his first post before reading the date, totally forgot about this post. i posted on the first page, i sounded pretty upset when i posted!!!!

[boxfan willy]

Rojas, I 2nd that. Glad I was absent or missed this post. Let's start the longest thread in Gldg history. Name yourself or another glassblower that would not be here without Snoddy. Most lineage can be traced back there, guaranteed!

Bob thanks for our Snoddy!

[boxfan willy]

OOOPS! Guess I did post on this one. Damn short and long term is gone to the wind...

boxfan

[davidwillisglass]

i would not be blowing glass if it were not for meeting bob.

i believe this forum would not exist were it not for bob.

anyone making glass pipes now... because of bob.

thank bob for your snoddy

[Sparkey]

I recently moved and couldn't find my silver and, consequently, couldn't do anything pipe related, so I made a marble instead. But that alone shows that his influence is in pretty much every piece I make.


i would not be blowing glass if it were not for meeting bob.

i believe this forum would not exist were it not for bob.

anyone making glass pipes now... because of bob.

thank bob for your snoddy

[FlyinFish]

i would not be blowing glass if it were not for meeting bob.

i believe this forum would not exist were it not for bob.

anyone making glass pipes now... because of bob.

thank bob for your snoddy
+1
I lurk here alot but this one needs a comment. A cool looking site is a benefit, yet when your a well-known artist isnt always nessesary. Snoddy's rep will always take him farther than many in this industry.
I am lucky to have him as a neighbor, he is always enthusiastic about what I am up to at the current time, and always been there when in a jam as far as a tool, piece of hose when I could not buy one, a brass fitting ect.
My roots started at Jerome Baker/Jason Harris also, which goes back to Bob I believe. While some might disagree, he is a cornerstone in the industry and has laid the foundation for many a flame worker

[glassshack]

Yal should just get 2 funkin work, we all change the direction of our motion, good and bad. Turn your torch on and play the quite game. Much luv BoB

[Mr. Wonka]

When I was a kid, I was raised on the ideals of “respecting your elders”, and I still live by that philosophy today. Regardless of facts, truths, myths, legends, hearsay, etc., Bob Snodgrass has earned a place in the history books of the glass art / pipe world.

He may or may not have been the first and / or only person to accomplish (fill in the blank), but he has earned a place in the boro industry that is undisputed. To what extent is determined by individual and objective opinions, but he sure as hell made an impact in “our world” in one form or another.

To disrespect or diminish the accomplishments of ANY of our predecessors / elders is just wrong. Henry Ford produced the “Model T”, and by today’s standards (disregarding classic and historic value), was a piece of shit. BUT… he paved the way for what we have available to us today.

I would like to see more people looking back on the history of our industry and respecting the contributions everyone has made to what we are able to accomplish today. If not for the “pioneers”… which includes ALL of our predecessors… none of us would be where we are at in this point in time.

I tip my hat to not only Bob, but everyone else that has helped pave the road to our current plateau. It is up to us to continue paving and expanding the same road we are currently on… something that future generations can look back on with pride, dignity, and respect. That includes all of us that are carrying the proverbial “torch” for what will come in the future, which (hopefully) will make today’s work look like beginner stuff.

Just my .02

Tom Doner

[Abe Fleishman]

I love BOB and the whole family they have created. I would also not be here if it was not for BOB beacuse when I learned to lampwork the guy who was my teacher learned from Camren Tower. One thing also is the old crew still lives up to the name of how cool there peices are and the amazing use of fume is incredible. There peices my not look like all the cool new stuff but there is a inside feeling about the fume glass that is just GOD. It wopuld be nice to start a family tree to find out were we all came from.

[Boss]

those top hat skull pieces are all bob! they were on dead tour years ago.....seen em.

[sevin dummerville]

I was also originally introduced to lampworking by a guy named Brandon, who was and old friend of and learned from Cameron who learned from Bob. This was back in about '95. When I moved to Eugene I got all of my first tools, torch and kiln from Bob. Back then when you bought glass from Windship you had to get the cases out of Dave's barn!
There were other lampworkers making pipes back when Bob was breaking new ground but Bob is THE Yoda of fumed glass pipes.

[sunray]

Trev started out in Bob's shop... Has much respect for him and Marie.
Its nice to see the relationship continues years later.. He's always glad to feel welcome when he shows up in Eugene.. He wouldn't even go into that town without
seeing them.. I have to Thank Bob for what he did for Trev and still does today....

[drewspuppet]

I would just like to chime in and apologize for my post years ago or whatever it was. Honestly, anyone who knows me knows I am not one to look down on anyone's glass skills... beginner or master. I don't know exactly why I wrote what I did, but I honestly meant no disrespect, my words betrayed my thoughts. I guess I'll be idiot number one.

Ugh. I also would like to apologize for getting off topic on this thread at the time and being a baby and getting into it with a member.. Honestly that kind of shit always makes me sick to see and it makes me sad that I got caught up like that.. hey, maybe I have a small dick issue, I don't know :puzzled:

[sanity7975]

MAD RESPECT TO ALL OF THE SNODGRASS CLAN!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.abrimagery.com

[Lub]

I almost peed my pants when i got to the DFO last year and saw that bob had a table set up with glass for sale. It made the trip worth it in itself to meet, talk with, and safety break with the legend himself. oh yeah and to buy two super dope pieces. I will cherish them forever, and i do owe bob a thing or two....or is it all of my success? either way i owe him a lot.

[FiredDesires]

I'm not sure how this thread, started a long time ago, escaped my reading before this day...shocking as the mere mention of Snoddy's name makes me stop and read.

I couldn't help but think, "if this guy had ever met Bob, this kind/generous/laid back artist? No way would you have criticized his website, even if a hint of it would be true, lol. The man and his accomplishments are what will be thought of and be foremost in many glassblowers minds, not the website.

I met Bob for the first time many years ago when I took a class with him, I was more in awe of the man than the process I signed up to learn..(no I'm not a groupie nor easily impressed, in fact I think I'm older than the legend himself, lol.) It was his style & sense of humor that will stay with me forever. And just when you think it can't get any better? You meet Marie..oh wow...what a woman and what an admirable couple they make.

Drewspuppet, props to you for the apology you have made a couple posts back, and I'll forgive you for the comments in the original posts..my hope/wish for you is that someday your fortunate enough to meet the man himself..then, you will surely understand & know why so many of us are quick to defend/speak-up for this incredible man & artist. The boro glass world has much to thank him for.

[CripSkillz]

If your dicks small, im sure you have been told lol sux to be you..















just playin

[nickglassdood]

anyone notice it says snodglass haha


either way he's the man

[BoroZillacate]

^^^^Hahaha! Intentional?

Yes, this thread is 3 yrs old....

[ornametalsmith]

when bob started there were no colors. i dont know him but come on let him be himself. if hes happy with his site, his work up on his site let him be.

word.......to each his/her own. REP'D

DOH!!!........damn.......this is an oldie but a goodie, NEED to start looking at dates before replyin'....

[raven sun]

i met bob at a hempfest outside eugene in '96... i was showing off a piece i had made to his people, it was a human figure playing two drums, the drums were percs and the body was the chamber, a double perk, all in rasta colors... all of his people thought it was great and passed it around to look at, when it came around to bob, he gave the piece a disgusted look and passed, didnt even look at it really... never gave him much thought after that...

oh, and when i first started, i mixed colors a few times trying to expand on northstars meager pallette, but messing with colorant powders is way too toxic... thank god for Glass Alchemy

[hwcglass]

I know this is an old post . . . but I just wanted to say

What you think when you look at Bob or Hugh or Homer or the Disney crew or any old school dudes, who knows. And it's not really all that important because your impressions of them will change over time.

What's important is what they think of you. And that will never change.

Bob Snodgrass, Homer Hoyt, all the oldies (alive and dead) are so fucking proud of you, you wouldn't even believe it.

[Mecha]

i met bob at a hempfest outside eugene in '96... i was showing off a piece i had made to his people, it was a human figure playing two drums, the drums were percs and the body was the chamber, a double perk, all in rasta colors...

Where did you get the cads for the rasta color scheme in 96?

[Din]

He mixed them himself out of street cred and true grit.

[blueflame glass worxs]

For ALL who spoke in BOBS behafe. thank you there are tecnics that other artis had and took them to there grave BOB.....has not I truly belive that.I say this to YOU young man pull your head out of your butt. YOU have craped and fell back in it now go to your torch and make somthing that would make BOB PROUD.IM almost62 and started about the same time he did so...at the very lest.....RESPECT your elders.

[kbinkster]

We should all respect our elders. Heck, I don't even make pipes and I have a lot of respect for Bob. I got to meet him a year or two ago at a glass show and was happy to see him all weekend here at the Eugene Glass School Flame Off. He even invited me and my husband over to a party at his place, but understood that we had our children with us... Anyway, he is s upper nice guy.

Also, I would like to say that Drew is a nice guy, too. I think it's good that he apologized for his old posts, because they were kind of... Well, I'll just say that they're out of character. He has never struck me as a disrespectful guy.

[kbinkster]

He mixed them himself out of street cred and true grit.

And he melted them with a Bic lighter and a dream. :lol I'm just playin'.

[elusivetools]

I am from the school of Bob, took lessons after he burned his hand bad at the w.h.e.e. festival in harrisburg Or, he taught me a lot, he also fell asleep during my lessons, but what evs.
I think fume is the new reball, Golds 1240$ an oz, silver is 19$, those with the skills should totally be rocking the fume, who cares what his website looks like. Just venting, happy sundae yall.

Et!:crazy:

[hashmasta-kut]

hey, maybe I have a small dick issue, I don't know :puzzled:


drew has a small dick. i think that says enough, leave him alone people :)

[Albino Sasquatch]

i dont think snodgrass is the glass god or anything. i mean hes more like moses he showed us the way and gave us a list of rules. lol love you bob hope to see you at next years dfo thank you for all of your help to all of the glass comunity over the years. even when i didnt know anything about glass i knew who bob was

[hashmasta-kut]

haha thats funny, i met bob at the DFO and didnt know his legendary status or who he was. in retrospect, he did seem a bit exalted. nice guy :)

[raven sun]

Where did you get the cads for the rasta color scheme in 96?
Most likely Northstar colors and gunmounts, here is a shitty pic, you tell me, smart guy...

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a625/cartmanisthemessiah/art/rastadrummer_zpsdf699007.jpg

[LooseSeal Baller]

What are you trying to prove???

ps thats a shitty pic.

respect Bob :chilling:

[kbinkster]

What are you trying to prove???

ps thats a shitty pic.

respect Bob :chilling:
Maybe he came across that old picture and remembered that three years ago, Mecha had questioned him on where he got the cadmium color for the Rasta theme back in 1996 before it was widely commercially produced. Maybe he took that as calling him out, or something, and now has the picture of that very piece to prove that he was telling the truth three years ago in this thread. The subject of this thread (Bob Snodgrass) will likely attract readers for years and years (especially since the mantra we all recite to newcomers is UTFSE), so I can understand why he would want to straighten that out.

[Mecha]

Most likely Northstar colors and gunmounts,
Why did you wait three years when you could have just typed this response back then?


here is a shitty pic,
Yep, it sure is.


you tell me,
How would I know what colors you used back in '96 for a rasta theme?


smart guy...
Thanks!

[Mr.P0rn]

@Barry - repped for posting here, causing me to see this thread. I just wanted to add a little bit here. As far as the fuming, for those who come to read this later, it's not that Bob INVENTED fuming, but he did rediscover it. i believe it is in one of the Essential Lampworking videos that he discusses it. Essentially he says that one day he got the idea to do it, fumed with silver, and was not impressed by the weird yellow he got. He gave the pipe away, and then a week later gets a call from a frantic friend wanted to know what the hell he did to the pipe. he goes over there, and is also confused. He quickly figures out how he did it, and has a moment trying to decide to keep it to himself, and profit from it, or to start showing it to everyone he can. he says "I decided to share, I mean, at the very least, I would have a small head start on everyone else". I think this is the first thing he did that made him great.

As far as fuming goes - it was happening at least as early as the ancient Egyptians and Sumerians. Back then, we were not adding additives to glass to color it, we were fuming. After we discovered how to add additives to change the colors, we eventually lost fuming. I have heard of others doing fuming before Bob did, and I have seen some fuming done in the 50s, but it was nothing compared to Bob's.

I feel pretty passionate about a lot of the stuff in this thread. The whole reason i came to this place is because i wanted SO badly to blow glass. I was here lurking before I ever made the opportunity for myself. I started as a DIE HARD collector, but the stuff I wanted to collect wasn't the heady stuff coming out when i started, I REALLY got into JBDs, fume work, and millies. Those things are what made me so passionate about glass that I HAD to pursue it. Now, i've done it. i am no where near as good as most of you *due to being mostly self taught*, but I am now on the path, and will one day be looking back down it, like most of you do now. It is a dream of mine to go and take a class with Bob, because most of what inspired me came itself, from him. If you ever worked for JBD, or Bob, or were part of the early movement that would later inspire me to join, I owe you a thank you that I cannot express in words. I have said forever that if I ever become anything in this industry, it will only be because of the good people who came before me, were welcoming, kind, and nothing but supportive and helpful, when they owed me nothing. Not only thank you Bob, but thank you everyone who makes this possible!

[dplaza]

not picking sides but in 96 people didn't use digital cameras. i imagine a lot of photos from 20 years ago dont look to great anymore if they weren't super out of focus to begin with.

that said just because he didn't say anything about your work doesn't mean much, i mean whatif the disgusted look was he felt like he had to hit the john. lol. better not to take stuff like that personally.

[mer]

odd, this thread was bumped three years to the day after falling off.

[kbinkster]

odd, this thread was bumped three years to the day after falling off.

That is odd. It was 3 years and 6 weeks old when it was bumped the first time it fell off (4/07 - 5/10).

[PyroChixRock]

Maybe he came across that old picture and remembered that three years ago, Mecha had questioned him on where he got the cadmium color for the Rasta theme back in 1996 before it was widely commercially produced. Maybe he took that as calling him out, or something, and now has the picture of that very piece to prove that he was telling the truth three years ago in this thread. The subject of this thread (Bob Snodgrass) will likely attract readers for years and years (especially since the mantra we all recite to newcomers is UTFSE), so I can understand why he would want to straighten that out.

Just to clear up the orange issue...sure there wasn't a glass alchemy yet, but there was an orange! It was shitty let me tell you lol. Came in about a 5mm rod, a little longer than dwarf rods, often not pulled straight and often lumpy. Here's my first spoon (made in 97 I think) inside out crayon orange of some kind and it was around since 1995 that I know of! I remember the glass, don't remember who made it.

53266

Sorry about the lame photoshop pic. I don't own the spoon, my uncle does. I came across it in his house one day after digital cameras were around.

[menty666]

It was a night like this, 3 years ago. A man joined the forum and in place of his hand.....he had a marver! *EEE! EEE! EEE!*

[skip]

Saw bob today. He made a pipe. Hung with me and my son for a bit.

[rainbowlippi]

Of course his website isnt great look at the guy does it look like hes super into computers haha