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Pilgrim
03-30-2007, 09:57 AM
Some time is soft glass we use a type of punty known as a dirty punty, the punty its self is rolled in sand before its taged up......
i always woundered if it could be applyed to borro work.....
and yes it can be done . i was trying it out yesterday in some low end work . mand i ended up with the cleanest dissconects ever....... just thought i would share my new dicovery.....
scottland

Phoenix
03-30-2007, 10:03 AM
That can be done with furnace glass also- I've never tried on boro- but I'm still a boro baby

lucidvisions
03-30-2007, 10:26 AM
With beach sand? what's the difference or advantages over a cold seal?
Josh

Pilgrim
03-30-2007, 10:36 AM
with the clean sand the punty will diconect so clean from the piece that grinding is kept to a min.

Cosmo
03-30-2007, 11:22 AM
In boro, I don't really think it would be necessary. If you do it correctly, there is very little punty mark left in the first place.

That said, I guess it could work. I have heard of it done in furnace situations where the piece is removed from the punty right in the kiln, and that seems like a good idea. But I always flame polish out my punty marks anyways, so I don't know that it would give any real benefit in the boro world.

And, knowing me, I'd just spill the sand all over everything anyways...

Pilgrim
03-30-2007, 11:26 AM
it was done only as an exsperiment. just to see if it can be done......thats it nothing more nothing less.
BUT I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!

ACE
03-30-2007, 12:26 PM
With beach sand? what's the difference or advantages over a cold seal?
Josh

its still a cold seal. the only difference is that it wont accedently stick to the sides, or in the wrong place. b/c the sides are 'dirty' the only place its capable of sticking is the very very tip.

i like my furnace puntys dirty, so ill have to try this scottland, thnks.

"dirty martini? dirty bastard!"

Pilgrim
03-30-2007, 01:22 PM
any time girl........keep rockin

jusbag
03-30-2007, 01:24 PM
Does the sand end up sticking to the peice at all? I can see how this might be pretty helpfull with large marbles.

Pilgrim
03-30-2007, 01:44 PM
no stickage

Gibsons Glassworks
03-30-2007, 03:27 PM
kind alike putting a bit of frit on a punty, that is cold sealing onto say a frit backed pendant. then u wont have a chunk of clear left over.

Pilgrim
03-30-2007, 10:59 PM
jep now every ones starting to think....this is cool

funksizzle
10-23-2012, 10:32 AM
Anyone do this and have any tips on how much sand to rolli tin, heat, and mess.

1. Describe what it should like like.
2. How much along the punty, like 1 inch
3. Do you keep the very tip warm, and how far up to the tip do you roll the sand in?
4. Do you try to marver the sand in?
5. What level of moltivity does the sand stick to the punty>
6. Do you have to continually flash the punty to keep it warm (more than usual),and how does this compare to just soft glass?
7. How much of the sand comes off?

Currently I use boro tubing for cold seals, with occasional chunks of boro stuck to them which require a tiny bit of cleaning. I've found that broken ends with like a half of tube on the surface work the best. They don't stick as much, and break off clean, and don't melt in as much. Just keep flashing them.

FredLight
10-24-2012, 08:50 AM
I use chalk on my soft glass punties to keep'em tight.

Much easier to control to application as well.

My choice? Sidewalk chalk, great big sticks that'll give you some room to work.

Emmett's Glass
10-24-2012, 09:30 AM
Sometimes I boil the glass on the end of the punti, it leaves no marks and breaks off super easy.
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Pogo
10-24-2012, 11:27 AM
Sometimes, right before I finish a nice piece, I pull out and spit on her back, so when she turns around I can blast her in the face.


LOL sorry dirty punty sounds like an urban dictionary move.

cheesebox
10-24-2012, 11:54 AM
Yeah last week I dirty punty'd in public and spent the night in jail, be safe.

kage
10-24-2012, 02:11 PM
Sometimes I boil the glass on the end of the punti, it leaves no marks and breaks off super easy.
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I thought I was the only one! Good tip for sure, works like a charm.

Side note, I've seen this only in goblet assembly with soft glass, but the dirty punty in that instance was marvered real quick on a primed piece of kiln shelf. I imagine its the same process as the op and Fred's chalk tech with an end result that produces minimal scarring.