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3 rip min
08-04-2005, 11:08 AM
i have just started to make some wine glasses/goblets and im wondering what everyone uses for their tops.... the fist ones i have made i used 45x4 i think... not sure i just bought one piece... i have been using 1 1/4 for the feet and thats working fine... i want to buy a case of glass for tops but not sure what would be the best....

thanks for any help...

3rip

ArtGlassHouse
08-04-2005, 12:37 PM
Your better off going with medium wall. Normal tops depending on size.... 38mm x 2.8mm up to 50mm x 2.5mm.

3 rip min
08-04-2005, 12:55 PM
thanks, i hadnt thought of that... it sure would be easier to flame cut the lip.. lol..

Islandglass Man
08-04-2005, 01:04 PM
I like 32m/m standard wall or 30m/m profile (symex)

Bear

ArtGlassHouse
08-04-2005, 01:30 PM
It's funny how "most of us" who didn't start with a class, use heavy wall tube because it is easier. Then we end up going to medium wall when we have more control....... giving us much cleaner and complex art. Have fun! Try to get in a good class. I have a Mickelsen bowl that is 7" wide and 5" tall made out of three sections........ using 38 x 2.8 tube!!! Sick!!! There are pics of him making it on the web site. http://www.r4glassstudio.com/GAS.html

3 rip min
08-04-2005, 04:09 PM
HAHAHAHAH!!!! classes smasses!!! lol... i dont need no stinking classes...

im just kidding... i did just go get 3 tubes of 45x5 though.. lol...

why use med or standard wall???? how thin should the walls be on a nice wine glass??? im new to these... i cant wait to try and sell them... (thats a joke)

Grandflush
08-04-2005, 06:42 PM
how thin should the walls be on a nice wine glass???

Very thin, very even, perfect shape. That's what you want. Thin and elegant.

CosmicGlassInc
08-04-2005, 08:50 PM
Isnt thicker better if its going to be used all the time, I make all my tops and bottoms out of heavy wall. Usulally 44.4 heavy for tops and a 2 inch piece of 25 for the bottoms, works for me. I'll have to try with the med wall though. Usually make a nice size top you can put a full beer in with a 1/4 inch to spare on the top.

Islandglass Man
08-05-2005, 05:32 AM
Wine glasses in our world covers a lot of ground. If you are making a cup that the general public is familier with then a standard wall cup would be right, the fun part is the stem. If it is a total art piece and you are going to add powder or other designs to the vessel then medium wall would be good.

Most wine glasses hold about 120 to 200 ml of liquid if you are going to make an item that is eunice but functional, I can't see using heavy wall for wine. Now beer glasses are different heavy is good when you can't lift the glass you have had enough!!

Just my opinion

Bear

bc
08-05-2005, 05:49 AM
Not to slam anyone who posted in this thread but Barry (bear) is the man to listen to, his goblets are sweet.

Steve Sizelove
08-05-2005, 06:05 AM
For cups, I would suggest 38 - 44 medium. For feet, I would say 25 - 33 medium. It doesn't take a big bubble to make a large foot when it is spun out flat. The thinner the bubble is, the easier it will spin out flat.

A class would help you a lot. I was having a terrible time with goblets, and then I took a class with Roger Parramore. It changed my world. The way that I do them has evolved a good bit, but without the class as a starting point I would have been lost.

At the very least, see if you can get the Cesera Toffolo video from Corning. It will take a while to understand some of the subtleties, but very worthwhile for repeated viewing.

Hope that helps,

Steve

3 rip min
08-05-2005, 06:37 AM
thanks everyone!!!!! i was hoping you would chine in steve... i have been looking at your site and think your glass is awesome.....

now im going to have to buy some med and standard wall tubing to see how it works... i live to close to wine country to not make some glasses/goblets...

ill try to post pics of my first ones today

3 rip min
08-05-2005, 10:21 PM
here are a few pics of my first goblets/ glasses....

PyroChixRock
08-05-2005, 10:26 PM
those are damn nice for your firsts!

3 rip min
08-05-2005, 10:39 PM
thanks.. not really my first ones but ive only made about 10 total.... i havent spent any time on the stems yet but i will soon.... i only started making them because some friends asked for a set for a wedding.... i live real close to napa so i should take advantage of that also...

CosmicGlassInc
08-06-2005, 12:46 AM
NIce!

Micah Evans
08-06-2005, 08:31 AM
those are great! you aren't gonna have any problems, i learned a lot about blowing a good goblet by using scalloped tubing. It automatically makes you concious of your heat and hand coordination(sp?). too muck heat and your ribbs melt out, it helped me with reading the heat base in the tube. In order to get a nice twist with the scallop you have to achieve an almost perfect temp. I bought a case of 50mm scallop and turned it all into tops, by the time i was done I had learned a lot. money well spent!

good luck!

me

3 rip min
08-07-2005, 11:26 AM
thanks a lot guys... now if can fugure out how much theyre worth and where to sell them... HAHAHAHAHHA!!!!! thats always the fun part....