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Glassbackwards
08-04-2005, 11:42 PM
Here is a new tech I'm working on. I'm not sure if any one else does them or not but I call them "SPACE DONUTS" check the pics to see what I mean. There the objects that look like donuts only reversed, Ive been able to get up to 10 on a 3inch peice of tube ...........Im not giving up the secret if there is one on how there done just yet, becuase Ive yet to have my own technique to name, either way any CC would be great. And if you know how there done cool, you can tell every one.

IrieGuy05
08-06-2005, 09:42 AM
Nice, I like the hazy striking color schemes...

Glassbackwards
08-11-2005, 10:03 PM
either every one thinks this tech is shit or no one knows how there done..........I'm suprised no ones even trying to guess, oh well

kruger
08-12-2005, 01:08 AM
i remember a guessing post on the other board got out of hand with angry people wanting to know, just warning you what could arise....it looks sick, different layers of fuming in a circular motion, maybue with amber purple included somehow?

homer
08-12-2005, 01:30 AM
hmmmm, I have done it on mistake many times making just fume spoons......never thought about using it though......

Homer

broken glass
08-12-2005, 07:35 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAaajh look a lika circles o fume.....im no expert tho i stuck my finger in the light socket

Glassbackwards
08-12-2005, 08:37 AM
i remember a guessing post on the other board got out of hand with angry people wanting to know, just warning you what could arise....it looks sick, different layers of fuming in a circular motion, maybue with amber purple included somehow?


Well I'm not giving 1/4 pound of color for who guesses right. The other thing is I might never say if your right or wrong, just curiouse if any one else is doing them or has the idea behind them - or what you might think about the tech itself

homer
08-12-2005, 05:13 PM
will ya tell me if u are using points?

NUBBLET
08-12-2005, 06:45 PM
asking for guesses and not telling if they are right is , LAME . It also is a good way to get others techs and ideas for nothing , the samething you are not wanting to do .

Glassbackwards
08-12-2005, 08:37 PM
Thats true....But I diden't go about it to get other techs. Its just this is my first tech I've come up with (I think) and I guess I'm just looking to see if any one else is doing them before I call it my own

As for homerboro Q's: I'm not using points to create the design. But that might work some how. Try messing around with it and find out.

NUBBLET
08-12-2005, 08:47 PM
fume the end of a tube then remove as if removing the tube from an implosion . or fume a rod then burn just the tip fuming off , then dab a dot .

Glassbackwards
08-13-2005, 12:39 AM
Those might make an interesting design, but nope. Good guess though

NUBBLET
08-13-2005, 01:21 AM
the opposite , heavy fume then attach an un-fumed tube and remove excess , or heavy fume then simply draw a ring .

The center looks surface fumed heavy . Quite possibly as mentioned above an amber purple or purple luster ,DAP ,TP , with reduction hit to bring the metal out then trap a ring .

Glassbackwards
08-13-2005, 02:29 AM
wrong again. I hope you figure it out, I'll keep the secret as long as I can, but if some one figures it out then thats cool. Maybe then others will improve on it ans figure out new ways of manupulating the donuts into othershapes. I think it can be done, I just don't have the time to experiment to much right now. I'm not a complete asshole though so I'll give a little hint. Its the tubes.

10FennyGlass
08-15-2005, 04:16 PM
kinda looks like the ass end of a coilpot. like you pop a hole and coil real quick

Glassbackwards
08-15-2005, 08:41 PM
No sir............ Heres a better pic of the small spoon. You can see a few on the stem and side of the bowl. Its all one piece.

FredLight
08-16-2005, 09:07 AM
Are you just popping holes in fumed tubes and resealing them? GO ahead, say"WRONG" again.
That's how I've done them by accident. You can always tell when I screw up a carb hole and go to the other side, cuz there's a "space donut" or "ringworm". :rolleyes

I'm wrong aren't I? I love how a post can annoy the shit out of me. Sorry to be a jerk about it. :lol

Glassbackwards
08-16-2005, 09:11 AM
hey your not being a jerk.good guess. your close but yet your also wrong. That what you said is close but add a few more steps and...................."space donut"

Julian
08-16-2005, 09:59 AM
I've seen that effect on the end of inside out spoons about 5 years ago, when I opened up on end, fumed gold and silver, dropped in some frit on the end I couldn't reach, and then decorated what was going to be the stem. There was a weird fume ring that looked like the sun.
Anyway, WTF is going on here? That damned "I dropped a plastic bag in a tube' thread was bad enough. Not another... no.... please!!!! You do it with.... fume! And Tubing!@!! Who cares!!!

IrieGuy05
08-16-2005, 12:26 PM
Is it frit with air trapped in it?

homer
08-16-2005, 02:35 PM
I think this revolutionary tech is amazing.....I would stare at the space donuts for hours if I owned one. Its done with making a heavily fumed wrap and rake, with clear and lots of fume, blowing it out paper thin and then melting it back down really small. viola! space donut. End of post.

Homer

FredLight
08-16-2005, 04:52 PM
Recurring plastic bag thread came to mind when I read this....Or made me consider opening up that :rolleyes "Eyewear Thread" again.
I'll post a picture of some random shit that happened to my car and you guess what did it. Then we'll both know. :lol

coe-33
08-16-2005, 04:59 PM
Ill take a guess, looks like you poured frit in your tube, left the end clear, heated up the very tip of the unfritted part of the tube leaving the clear around that cool then pour in more frit so that the new frit sticks only to the small heated tip. yes? no? maybe so? :)

-J.T.

Glassbackwards
08-17-2005, 08:21 AM
Thanks for the guesses, but no one hit on the actual tech involved. On the otherhand some of you are either pissed becuase you cant figure it out or your just pissed to be pissed either way I never intended this thread to get out of hand with poeple mad cuz I wont just come out and say how I did it. Im sure if you all think about it if you had some kind of tech you came up with would you just start blabbing it all over the world on how its done. No you would do the same I'm sure post pics, and try and get some feed back on them, either if someone else does it or if any one has seen them before. I just asked the question does any one know how there made, you all would of started guessing wether I asked or not. so quite busting my balls on this one

and I love how homerboro just blatenly acts like he knows excacly how its done but yet his idea was the farthest off. I'm sure your a great glass artist there guy but don't get to cocky for your own good buddy....

Runez
08-30-2005, 07:01 PM
This is just a random guess... but if i tried to do the pattern myself, this is how I would go about it. Coil a color it looks like you used amber purple, or another striking color, pop a hole on the side as if you were going to reverse the axis... attach your blow tube however instead of making a clean termination, rip off the enitre side your original blow tube was on... coil some more of the same color in order to "fill the gap" and then put a blob of clear over the center of the new coil. I think if you did it right you would get the bulls eye or space donut affect your getting. At the very least the colors will strike different, and youll get something that messes with your eyes. I got this affect when i used cane to coil pot, and then tried to swith the axis without having clean terminations.

pyrorob05
08-30-2005, 07:50 PM
just blow out the very tip of a frit spoon paper thin then melt it back down and thats how i get that exact same effect as on that frit spoon in the 1st pic

Glassbackwards
08-30-2005, 11:23 PM
Runez, No thats not how I do it at all, good guess and Pyrorob05 do you have pics of that? That also is not how I do them but I would like to see a pic of that.

Bryan C Wise
11-28-2005, 11:09 AM
OK, 2 very different guesses, because I'm having trouble seeing exactly what it is in the pics:

1. Inside of a tube is fumed, closed up, etc. Then a MARIA (external fold ring) doubles up the fume. the maria is then melted / worked back flush with the bubble. Then axis change, encalmo etc. into the finished piece.

2. A flared tube with holes (blown out) is fumed inside then holes are patched with dots ON THE INSIDE and then maybe lightly fumed again (inside). Closed up, encalmo, etc.

I love these guessing games. It helps us all to think of glass technique in ways we hadn't before.

FredLight
11-28-2005, 11:17 AM
I like Bryan's guesses. I'll stand in the same line he's standing in.

Boy, I'm sorry if my posts are jerky again, I actually like reading the guesses to get some inspiration.

And I did try some, but no "SPACE DONUT" exactly....just "ringworm" and that's not as cool.

Glassbackwards
12-08-2005, 05:09 PM
Ok guys. I really appriciate all the feed back. But I'll let the cat out of thge bag for you guys.

Here it goes:
pull a point-
seal one end then pop it out into a hole-
take a blow tub about the same size or a litlle bigger then the hole and seal them together-
The trick is to push the blow tube down into the point a little-
Then leaving about an 1/2 inch section of the blow tube flame cut it off-
then pour in your frit and melt it all down-
wa-la SPACE DONUT!

try it a few different way like with fume
tou can get some crazy effects

Racer X
12-09-2005, 11:58 AM
My review. You should call them "Shit Donuts." lol

Kidwithaflame
12-09-2005, 04:17 PM
ahhhhhhhhh

Glassbackwards
12-09-2005, 09:16 PM
wheres the love at?

Racer X
12-09-2005, 09:20 PM
It's from Spinal tap... you donut bumper.

Glassbackwards
12-10-2005, 05:07 PM
ohhhhhhhh

glasspapi
12-11-2005, 10:03 AM
i think this would be a way tighter tech if you made it double blown or double thick. Then you would have a sick tech. call it the thickity thick space donut.