anyone ever used an air filtration unit instead of an exaust?

[mistahead]

i thoght na filtration system of some sort might be good for winter instead of exausting all my heat . any one ever heard of one of these?

[Dale M.]

i thoght na filtration system of some sort might be good for winter instead of exausting all my heat . any one ever heard of one of these?

I believe a filtration units WILL NOT remove CO (carbon monoxide) gas from room, and also NOx (nitrogen oxide)... Most filtration is for dust partial cleaning. It would take heavy chemical filtering to wash the offending gases out of the room air. If you can buy a war surplus submarine, you might get the filtering system that may work...

Dale

[slinger]

what about a wood burning stove to heat your place randy?

[mistahead]

thats definetly an option thats just gonna be alot of wood!! i already heat my house with a wood stove and burn a ton o wood actully it got a little chilly in the house last night had to have fire! i guess youll see my sitcuation when u come out . my shop prolly wont be very big once its done prolly 12 ft by 15 ft i need atleast two maybe three stations pluss supplys, havin the oxy and propane in the same room with the wood stove kinda sketches me out a bit!! the guy at the welding supply place told me about this filtration unit yhat welders use and they get tons o whak fumes from that shit and as far as carbon monoxide and shit i could still vent for like 30 seconds every five min or so before they get to toxic levels or?? maybe i should just take up knitting 4 the winter!!!!!

[Mike_Aurelius]

Those welding systems won't replace the requirement for fresh outside air to replace the exhausted air. They are not designed really as recirculators, and are also very very expensive.

Have you thought about routing your fresh incoming air directly to your bench area, behind and below it? By doing this, you are just dumping it into the general room air, but putting it where it needs to be, and it can then be exhausted almost immediately.

[biff44]

You need an exhaust fan. Flame gives off too much carbon monoxide, especially when it is a yellow flame. You can die pretty quickly!

Get a good electric infrared heater, like a quartz heater, and it will heat you instead of the air.

[Udai Hussien]

Does anyone know if there are dangerious amounts of Carbon Monoxide generated from lamping? I thought propane was supposed to be clean and efficen. Well thats what hank hill taught me

[NUBBLET]

they have linked Propane to cancer . They have done research about tobacco , and found that if cured in a warehouse heated with propane , there are a lot more carcinigens in the tobacco . It is cleaner and safer than a lot of gases that could be used , this is probably why it is used most , along with the notion it is efficient .
I imagine if you were to close off all entry air it would be a big problem , but since we work with an air intake and exhaust , it probably would not concentrate enough to be extremly hazardous .

[Greymatter Glass]

Does anyone know if there are dangerious amounts of Carbon Monoxide generated from lamping? I thought propane was supposed to be clean and efficen. Well thats what hank hill taught me
Short answer: Yes. Long answer is still yes, with lots of paranoid science and propane industry lobbying attached.

Hank Hill would, I'm sure, advocate for proper ventilation. that's why space heaters use heat exchangers, and water heaters have an outside vent.

Anyways... on the subject of heating a shop in the winter.....no need to reinvent the wheel, people have been working in ventilated spaces in the winter longer than any of us have been around....

The solution is an infrared radiator. There's various types...


The best are black body tube heaters. A big black iron pipe w/ a special coating has a flame blasted down the inside and through a big long U shape. The pipe is suspended under a polished stainless steel reflector, and as it heats up it radiates the heat into near by objects causing them to heat up, and radiate heat. If you're in the room, you'll heat up no matter how much air is being ventilated.

Those wierd "dish" heaters are the next best, they have some electric coils in the middle, then a big polished dish to direct the heat. They're kinda like a focused energy beam of heat. Wind moving past it wont steal the heat till it's hit you and been absorbed a little.

There's also some really nice Dayton heaters that are probably better than the big black tubes, but I don't know much about them.

Space heaters and central heating suck for a workshop.

-Doug

[Udai Hussien]

Speaking of funny "heating" stories, When Fatmike set up his studio 4 years ago, it was summer time, well it got colder eventually, and there was a wood burning stove, and we had 4 work spacews, with exhuast fans (makeshift attic fans with aluminum duxcting vents) well anyway, it was 10 PM, and it was a brisk 30 degrees one night, so i load up the wood stove and get it going, heating the kiln up, its nice approx 80 degrees in the shop, I have a eletric exhaust on the stove sucking the smoke out. All is good. Well i reach over turn on my propane tank, and oxy tank, then I hit the switch, it controls all the "exhaust" fans, the power sucks the smoke out of the stove, turning the whole shop in to a mini Dakkau, I have to open the door, and it sucks the cold air in... so I am like smoke stinky, and froze my balls off... the next day I got two radiant heaters for MY workspace. When I would come into work, they would manage to walk to fat mikes space...