lox question

[Blacksheep]

well damnit got a bubbler almost done and out of oxy well no more k tanks for me
i pick up my first LOX tank tomorrow.

the company i deal with wouldnt deliver to me (too far off the beaten path)
so i finally managed to get a ticket to move them myself.

my question is- will my regulator work or is there a special liquid reg for these tanks?

i am stoked finally no more haulin around the hp tanks
and with my Cuda the LOX should last me at least a month! wohoooooooo

[Alfred]

Your reg should work fine.

[garrick]

shitty rap group

[DrBobalicious]

yeah you can use your regular regulator but you might want to use 2 regulators one right off the tank and one on you near you bench so you can watch your pressure

[n3rd]

get a ticket to move them yourself? what sort of ticket?

[Blacksheep]

shitty rap group

-not a Rap fan so never heard of them


yeah you can use your regular regulator but you might want to use 2 regulators one right off the tank and one on you near you bench so you can watch your pressure

id love to do this but the regs are made to attach to the tank fittings
are there fittings available to allow inline regs?
where would i get them? welding shop?
i really have to get some fittings ,y's etc in prep for a little torch
it would be great to have control right close to the torch!



get a ticket to move them yourself? what sort of ticket?

its a permit actually for dangerous goods -i believe it lets me carry up to 5 tanks at a time!
it was an online couse and test -i scored 100% lol
this of course is for canada -BC in particular

[n3rd]

its a permit actually for dangerous goods -i believe it lets me carry up to 5 tanks at a time!
it was an online couse and test -i scored 100% lol
this of course is for canada -BC in particular

ahh ic, you scared me :p i've heard once that there could be some D.O.T. concerns with transporting liquid on your own, but i'm not sure. most oxy companies have told me and my buddy with the truck that its fine.

[Blacksheep]

well here you have to have a permit and if you have more than 1 tank
you need placcards to mark the load due to weight .
you also need the permit to have onsite and it must be well marked that its there.
alll reciepts etc have to be saved for like 3 yrs as well!
oh well im all good now :) and will be payin 200 a fill! fuck was payin more for 4 k tanks wohoooooooooo

damn it is air lol

[Tzonis]

mmmmm LOX.... mmmm...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lox

[Alfred]

Was wondering when this thread was gonna turn fishy:D

[ech]

I like it sliced extra thin...

[DrBobalicious]

-not a Rap fan so never heard of them


id love to do this but the regs are made to attach to the tank fittings
are there fittings available to allow inline regs?
where would i get them? welding shop?
i really have to get some fittings ,y's etc in prep for a little torch
it would be great to have control right close to the torch!



its a permit actually for dangerous goods -i believe it lets me carry up to 5 tanks at a time!
it was an online couse and test -i scored 100% lol
this of course is for canada -BC in particular

to make your tank regulator an in-line you need to remove the fitting that hooks to the tank (they can be a little tricky to remove)then you get a brass male fitting I think it should be 3/4 not sure if its different sizes for different reg. you should be able to find the fittings at any local hardware shop if not a welding shop should have them

[Frankie Hess]

I never used more than just the reg on the tank with liquid, (used it for about 1.5 years) and never had any problems. I also bought a Victor reg specificly for Liquid but it 's not realy needed. The only difference is that the liquid reg only has a max inlet pressure of 500 lbs because the orfices are bigger to let more volume through since you don't get more than 350 lbs of pressure out of a liquid tank. So running the reg you have will just be like running a k bottle under 350 lbs.

[marcel]

my question is- will my regulator work or is there a special liquid reg for these tanks?

Actually yes you might need a special reg.

If you run more than one torch or intend to crank up a large torch for long periods a liquid rated reg with a stainless steel diaphragm will survive freezing...unlike a standard oxy reg. If you are growing frost much past the reg then it is freezing and eventually it will be toast, unless it is a SS diaphragm.

I've killed quite a few.

They're really not that expensive and you might already have one. Ask your gas supplier.

-Marcel

[Big Jay]

good info here. Thanks.

out of curiousity if your tansporting your own liquid how on earth are you unloading it? We moved one a couple weeks back and it was a pain in the :wes:

[Blacksheep]

good info here. Thanks.

out of curiousity if your tansporting your own liquid how on earth are you unloading it? We moved one a couple weeks back and it was a pain in the :wes:


lol thats a good question hahaha yeah this tank weighs around 600 lbs
it does not have wheels but is strapped to a pallet that they let me keep with the tank

i have a 773 turbo bobcat with hay forks (horses)
does the job real well. it has also helped me get some lessons -lot a snow this year ;)

[Big Jay]

sweet.. forks would get it done no problem.

[mer]

i've seen people who just dedicate a trailer to the tank so that they can use it while on the trailer and then hook it up and roll it down to the oxygen place when they need to. i think it's way better to have it delivered though if that's an option.

[Galaxie Glass]

Thats what Ive done in the past and it beats breaking youre back trying to muscle 'em around..The lil trailer I bought from harbor frieght was like $250 and it folds up if I dont need it anymore..:0)

[nicko0]

i was told that a lquid tank is too big for my usage. i go through four k tanks a week. how much o2 are you loosing during the month? i thought they were too unstable to keep for very long? what size tank do you have? i pay 8.84 per k tank fill. is that why its still more economical to get k tanks? am i asking the right questions?

[HOSS]

If you go through 4 k's a week, liquid is definitely not too big for you. You are getting a good price on HP tanks so it might not save much money (except maybe delivery fees), but it would definitely save you the trouble of changing tanks all the time. I just put about 140 hours on my last liquid tank (200liter), for me thats about 5 weeks of work. I kept a close eye on the pressure and it never vented at all, but it supposedly happens more in the summer. There is a recent thread here (http://www.thegldg.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16124&highlight=liquid+oxy+question) that gives some good tips on how they work and how to keep it from venting so you don't lose much if anything (get the 350 psi tank if possible). I did the math and at least for me, the liquid tank saves about $100-$150 a month over what I was paying for K's and T's, plus the convenience factor.

[nicko0]

ok ill talk to my oxy guy again. it is really hot here most of the year. he says i need to use it up in less than a week to be economical. i think lquid oxy maintains pressure till you run out of liquid as ive noticed with propane i think you have to weigh it.

[HOSS]

There's absolutely no reason you need to use it all in a week, thats just silly. A friend of mine typically takes 2 months to go through his and it still costs much less than high pressure tanks. Since you get your k's cheaper than most, probably the best way to see how economical it really is, is to go ahead and get one (with a high PSI so it won't vent much if at all), see how long it lasts and what it costs compared to buying tanks for the same period. Don't assume your oxy guy knows it all, I've gotten some incorrect info from mine too (although he seemed VERY sure.)

[nicko0]

your right ill just find out for sure by trying it. ill be sure to let you know how it goes. thanks for convincing me

[Greymatter Glass]

Welding shops have a MUCH higher profit margin on high pressure cylinders than they do on bulk liquid oxygen, so they'll be reluctant to offer it to their smaller clients.

Don't pay more than $1.50 a day or $500 a year on tank leases. A fill will run in the neighborhood of $100 + or -

There's about 26 K tanks of oxygen in a 180L dewar.

do the math.

-Doug

[Kool]

Yeah, what they said.

I figure we pay less than half what we would for an equivalent number of K bottles...and that includes the rental and delivery charges on the liquid.

[Ben Burton Glass]

We pay 530.00 for the fill with delivery charge and everything, and it still works out cheaper then getting K-tanks... and it's way less hassle too!!

Aloha!

[Mr. Whale dick]

i think i would kill myself if a dewar was $530

[Big Jay]

We pay 530.00 for the fill with delivery charge and everything, and it still works out cheaper then getting K-tanks... and it's way less hassle too!!

Aloha!

holy crap!!