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Loïc
09-19-2005, 05:30 PM
Ive been playing around with a roll of gauge 40 copper sheet...

cut in a lil' shape, and put under a blob of glass, back with color and Voilà !!
i also got some decent space effect when burning up a bit the copper before adding the back color..
this make some really great pendants / marbles...

just to let know to those who havent tryed it yet. Cheap&Fun

Loic

Lambs Bread
09-20-2005, 12:29 PM
i have been getting glass molten and then take some warmed up ( not red hot ) copper wire and rubbing it on the molten glob making a amazon bronze type color looks good in space scenes

Firekist
09-20-2005, 03:26 PM
nice tip! how does the 40 gauge handle.. as far as what do you need to cut it with? i've thought about htis before..
since i'm not sure how thick that stuff is.. here's my tip for you to try.. let me know if you try it, k?
get a set of those "paper hole punches" that have different shapes on them. they have moons and stars and other patterns. i meant to try this, but i got copper leaf/foil, and that shit's way too damn thin to handle.
anyway.. pure traps with no flame contact gets a couple colors, shiny or dull. if you implode copper, you can get reds oranges, and icky browns.
if you get some silver in there.. it seems the reds are easier, as well as pinker.

i love space pendants =0
z---seth

Paxton
09-20-2005, 08:15 PM
I have got a couple of copper sheets somewhere. I will try to find them and see what happens. If it turns out cool, I will post some pictures.

Paxton

Loïc
09-20-2005, 09:24 PM
this sheet is quite "malleable" , Firekist, i know the kind of paper punch you are talking about, and its the first thing i tought about when i saw that copper foil, im quite sure it would work... but it might break off after a while... this is still a good density copper, while still being so easily working material... you can cut it with regular cissor easy, but i use airplane metal cutter, it goes trough it easier than butter...
ive been workin with this since a couple week,
you can :
- to keep the shape as it, you cut it as wanted, just grab your copper foil design with a molten glass blob.. and encase starigh into clear or color...
- you can simply grab a copper square foils with your molten glass , then burn it off a bit with the flame. .. you can grab 1 or 2 more square and burn off... you can fume with silver&gold between the copper pick-up.. give some decent effect too... copper tend to accumulate as a liquid drop, and create planet into a silver/gold/copper fumed galaxy ... move it all around....
- just put little sharp, little cut, ~1mm.. and create huge effect..
- . ..
the list goes on...
back with some crazy silvered colors, or adventurine,etc....

colors can vary very fast... and get some nice shade from red to pink to purplish/amber...

ill try to take a picture of the exact copper foil i got.. but i bought it at an Artist supplies Store "Omer Desseres" ..
"specialty classic copper, Lt.Wgt. 40GAUG, "


i used to try to melt in some pennies "1¢" to get some kind blob, and melt em back in the glass, but this sheet is just so neat..

Loïc

Loïc
09-20-2005, 09:28 PM
did i mention, make sure you got some good ventilation system ... hehe.
never safe enough

The Bigles
09-20-2005, 09:49 PM
I've never seen any copper work besides Seth's. I'm excited to see what he'll do because of this thread. (I get to see a lot of his work in person)

But really I'd like to see some pics of everyone's copper work.

BTW please post any pics of it in this thread. I hardly ever look in the pics galleries websites forum since most of what I want to see is on glasspipes.org

Robert Mickelsen
09-21-2005, 08:30 AM
But really I'd like to see some pics of everyone's copper work.

I have been fooling around with copper for years. The early stuff was just wire but lately I have been working with copper leaf and copper electroforming. Somehow copper and glass just go hand-in-hand...

http://www.mickelsenstudios.com/catalog/naked_ape.htm

http://www.mickelsenstudios.com/catalog/touchmenot.htm

http://www.mickelsenstudios.com/catalog/calciforous_platter.htm

http://www.mickelsenstudios.com/catalog/comb6.htm

- RAM

The Bigles
09-21-2005, 11:56 AM
nice!

How complicated is electroforming?

Robert Mickelsen
09-21-2005, 02:18 PM
nice!

How complicated is electroforming?

It's not that hard to do. Here is a little essay on the basic procedure.

http://www.katefowle.com/tips.htm

I scaled everything up a bit for my work, but the basic idea is still the same.

- RAM

onion
09-21-2005, 04:57 PM
would a copper skin form onto a piece fumed with silver instead of painted with electroforming paint?

Firekist
09-21-2005, 08:40 PM
if fuming is able to carry a charge along its skin, then yes. if not, then no. i suspect a heavy coat would.

as long as the topic has been brought up.. i was keeping this in the back of my head for quite some time:
the titanium pens leave a line of titanium, and if scribed in well, those lines will conduct. electroforming could be done to enhance the conductivity.. and.. you could basically draw a circuit into your glass. hook up a battery, plug it in, etc..
lots of weird things to try.. so much to try.. so.. very.. much..

just share it =0

z-=-seth

Vapor Glass
09-21-2005, 09:14 PM
Ive heard about micro chips being hand scribed like that and then electroformed.
if i remember correctly, the chips were ceramic. and the guy telling me was a tatoo artist. hehh

that would be nice to be able to put a 9v to the base of your work to light it up.

Brian Newman
09-22-2005, 04:30 AM
It's not that hard to do. Here is a little essay on the basic procedure.

http://www.katefowle.com/tips.htm

I scaled everything up a bit for my work, but the basic idea is still the same.

- RAM

Thank you so very much. For your books as well.

Brian.

Julian
09-22-2005, 08:16 AM
the titanium pens leave a line of titanium, and if scribed in well, those lines will conduct. electroforming could be done to enhance the conductivity.. and.. you could basically draw a circuit into your glass. hook up a battery, plug it in, etc..

Yes Seth, you're right! I got a titanium pen from Wale around 1998-99 or so, and the catalog indicated that the lines could be plated for circuit making.

Matt Hess
09-23-2005, 04:43 PM
Anybody have a good cheap internet site to pick up some copper sheets? Peace.

onion
09-24-2005, 04:36 PM
wow making a pipe/circuit is the trippiest thing ever!!! you could do things like set leds into the bottom of a bub! time for me to buy a titanium pen

kruger
09-27-2005, 05:52 AM
i tried fuming copper a few times, pretty cool greenish effect

heard its horrible for you, more so than gold and silver

kruger

Robert Mickelsen
09-27-2005, 05:17 PM
Here is another recent piece using electroforming, copper leaf, resist-sandblasting, and steel wool. Multimedia rules! ;)

http://www.mickelsenstudios.com/catalog/weatherman.htm

- RAM

Matt Hess
09-30-2005, 06:12 PM
Would copper leaf or foil be better to use because of thickness and being able to hold up under the flame? Im thinking foil just because of the thickness.

RAM, Do u fully aneal your pieces after applying your copper foil or wires? I was just wondering how they wouldnt crack with the copper and glass cooling down at different temps in the kiln.

Sounds like this would be a good article or class for Mr.Mickelson if you havent done one allready. Bump!
I would deffinatley attend. : )
Peace.

jusbag
09-30-2005, 08:09 PM
Wow Robert, That last peice is amazing. Good job!