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Lurch
07-18-2008, 05:18 PM
What would you charge to give 4-5 hours of your time to watch a shop and give them pointers on how to be more efficient workers with their time?
How much would you charge?
JANKYglass
07-18-2008, 05:42 PM
$150 -$300
UmaJulz
07-18-2008, 06:18 PM
Yep, depends on how well they catch on or if you have to repeat yourself A LOT! I'd say $25 to $50 per hour, plus expenses- I suppose geography might have something to do with it too.
3 rip min
07-18-2008, 07:43 PM
25 to 50?? thats a joke.. i wont go in my own shop for that..
it would cost alot of money to help get a big shop running sweet.
K-Dog
07-18-2008, 10:08 PM
Really it depends on what they want to know.
Giving advice on how to set up shop and helping do so, i s allot differant then giving advice as to how to speed up production.
I'd think that giving that kind of advice would be tricky, in that you would be showing them how to prep bigger, longer tubes for inside and outside work.You would also be telling them to add more or less colour, maybe helping with faster more efficient shapes. Essentially you would be helping design a production line for them.Not to mention the time saving tips.You would be expected to give much more information then you would get in a class or workshop.
I agree with 3 Rips comment. I would charge 3 or 4 times more then what i'd make in a day for the services, maybe even 5 times.Actually i wouldn't do it at all.What ever you decide don't sell yourself short.
Lurch
07-18-2008, 11:05 PM
Well it's a shop I've known for over 4 years, so I have a good relationship with them. I don't need to do any designing, I'm pretty sure they want me to focus on looking at the way they do their prep and seeing/showing them ways to cut down on wasted time...
I never feel dumb asking you guys your opinion..
its one of those things that you will never get paid what you are worth. I think it would be better to do it as a favor and maybe ask for a six pack or something. It they could be your competition, maybe you should pass on it.
UmaJulz
07-20-2008, 09:56 AM
It sounds more like you would observe and make suggestions, not actually get in there and demo techniques or suggest designs. I thought you were suggesting more of a production efficiency based on organizing tasks, and maximizing material handling. I suppose that could even include layout of the shop and such, but if they want more, they'd probably need to step up with more 'incentive.'
Good luck, Lurch. Having an outside eye can be really beneficial to them, and I hope they appreciate it.
michaelangeloglass
07-20-2008, 10:08 AM
you have to figure you'll habe no overhead for the day, I generate alot of money but not to the point that I forget how much I have to spend to run the studio.
I would say ..... hmmmmm
Put it this way I would come up and hang out all day for $250-$300 a day 8 hours!
So there ya go:o)
HaulAss
07-20-2008, 07:10 PM
Shit I'd come and hang out for $100 a day lol.
dirtyglass
07-21-2008, 06:16 AM
you have overhead every day you own a shop. just cause the kiln is off wont mean the bills wont come. Think about rent, liquid or tank rental, the money your not making by missing out on a day of work. all things to be considered.
themoch
07-21-2008, 08:11 AM
consultants like what you're describing make a lot of cash. i know if i get expended out for the company i'm working for right now they charge like $175/hr for telling people how to set stuff up, not actually doing the work. (i wish i was paid near that much)
think about it in terms of how you'll be helping them out for years to come...
matte eskuche
07-23-2008, 08:45 AM
i'm curious here..
is pipemaking so standardized in technique and aesthetic that everyone wants to follow the same general methodology? or am i way of base and the consulting is just about proper ventilation or making sure their tanks are standing upright and chained to the wall instead of lying down with the regulator directly under where the garage door comes down?
once you get into someones studio isn't it hard to draw that line and not want to help them with all sorts of things that have more to do with how they approach the glass? i vote for the six pack and them buying the steaks.
once i started to teach students the techniques that drive the design of my work, i found i responded to seeing things really similar to my own work by creating a totally new direction for my work.
just was thinking about this the last few days..
G.B. Midas
07-23-2008, 10:21 AM
Matt,
I think depends on what kind of "pipemaking" you are doing. If you are doing production pieces there is a standardized way of do things. I've been doing production every since I lit my first torch, and over the years have developed techniques that save my lots of time and lots of money. It took years for this to happen but I've passed down my knowledge to a other studios and help them greatly.
Now when you are doing one of a kind, fully-FUNctional art piece you gotta go with the flow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just my two cents,-peace-G
newmexicomagma
07-23-2008, 03:05 PM
i dont think there really is a standardized way of making prodo pipes. my production is completely different than anyone elses in town. i think everyone over time figures out what works best for them. i think it is invaluable to watch others work just cause they might do things differently. then your style progresses by adding things that you have seen others do. i dont know what i would charge for something like that. i guess it depends on how valuable you think the info is.
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