so....labglass people....

[jiminyrootkit]

if one were to want to build a water jacketed distillation condenser, to connect to an 18" spherical vessel with 50mm input/output tubes, and has plenty of the 50x8 that the input/output are made of, what might be a proper size tube for the inner pipe/coil?
i've been planning on using the 50x8 for the outer jacket, just for durability's sake, but i'm not a scientific blower, and don't wanna make the thing out of stuff that's too thick, too thin, too small.....etc.
so generally, for use in a water jacket, is thin wall suitable inside? outside? and is a coil notably better than a straight tube?
thanks
-f

[Greymatter Glass]

meth labs are bad, mkay?

[lava flow]

scary... Hunter S. Thompson sigs plus distillation inquiries equals suspicious lampworkers...

[β]

i guess no one else distills lavender oil?

[Greymatter Glass]

You're aware you can buy lavender oil in 55 gallon drums, right?

[mer]

i bet he is.

[jiminyrootkit]

damn you and your methlab accusations, doug(E).
is it not possible that someone wishes to make some liquor?
you know, that OTHER thing you can do with a still? ;)
now i never said we wouldn't be making some crazy liquors, but no twack.
never twack.

nah, i got the receiving jar from an old dairy when i picked up the tubing, and thought it'd make a tight distillation unit....thinking digital control, electric heat, worked color on the water jacket.....you know, just cause i can.

-f

[Islandglass Man]

50x8 is silly for a coil what you need on top of that milk jug is a 4' packed column then a water jacket to top it. Then a coil condenser that will attach to the side of the 4' column to take the good stuff off.

50 standard wall is the right stuff for the column with the pipe flanges that fit your milk jug. By the way cleaning that jug is going to be a bitch.

Do more research on ethanol distillation -- on line lots of info

you guyz and your heavy wall:dieslaugh

Bear

[bc]

50x8 is silly for a coil what you need on top of that milk jug is a 4' packed column then a water jacket to top it. Then a coil condenser that will attach to the side of the 4' column to take the good stuff off.

50 standard wall is the right stuff for the column with the pipe flanges that fit your milk jug. By the way cleaning that jug is going to be a bitch.

Do more research on ethanol distillation -- on line lots of info

you guyz and your heavy wall:dieslaugh

Bear


for a lond island guy.....your all right!

[somberbear]

bow before the power of the stash...........

[trained]

i have no idea how to answer your question but you better hide that distiller real well when you make it because im pretty sure to legally own it you need to register it with the govt. or atleast thats what ive heard is the law now since theyre tryna crack down on clandestine labs.

[jiminyrootkit]

thanks bear.
i was gonna use that for the outer jacket just for durability's sake.
you'd say standard wall for the inner packed tube AND the outer water jacket then?
the only still research i'd done was focused around building a reflux unit, but not out of glass.....
in light of your advise tho, i think i'll probably just go back to that basic design, packed tower and whatnot.....
i started trying to get too fancy once i thought of digital temp control/heat and being able to precisely control the liquid temp......thinking that the packed/jacketed tower was overkill if you could set the temp for high enough to distill alcohol without evaporating much water.
we'll see what i come up with.
-f

[smutboy420]

If you want them I have a set of compleat blue prints and instructions for making a 5 gallon per hour charles 803 automatic still. one of the best stills ever designed it also can be digitaly controlled.
I just have to find a way to up load the files.

[β]

You're aware you can buy lavender oil in 55 gallon drums, right?

BUt is it organic, and blessed by mother earth? Or, is it made from the tears of thirdworld children? The Bees would not be pleased.

Some real advice though for jiminyrootkit, if you do not have at least informal scientific blowing knowledge, just buy some lab glass. Do you really want that jacket exploding @ 200C under a vacuum, hmmm, maybe not. If you are distilling something HARMLESS WITHOUT a vacuum, knock yourself out, just watch out for the dancing flaming EtOH vapors around you :)

[themoch]

http://www.thegldg.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12883&d=1215619274

i use it for water... you know, to remove all the chlorine

[tilman]

hey andrew, i tried to use that link but i get this error message

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here a cool link on how to use a water distiller and how to take the carbon filter out. it also explains the basics of distillation. this might help someone who doesnt want all the work of building a big distiller.


http://revision3.com/systm/distillation/

[mer]

hey andrew, i tried to use that link but i get this error message

it wa a glitch, i fixed it. here's the image;

[themoch]

hmmmmm alright i upload it again... because i can't figure how to post an image from my "attachments" folder

*image removed becase Mer already fixed it for me*

[β]

andrew, if the distillation is taking too much energy to push it over, try insulating your column with something, even aluminum foil works. Although, those glass beads might be able to retain enough heat.

[themoch]

that's an old shot, got the hot pipe insulation on it, as well as changed the "packing" in the column to a finer "grit"

[jiminyrootkit]

no vacuum, no harmful chemicals, and i know enough about lab kit to be fine using it, tho thank you for your concern.
just haven't ever built one, and thought i might ask for a materials recommendation on a couple specific parts.
smutty, i'd take a gander at those plans, just for shits and giggles, if you get em up somehow....no biggie.
-f

[melt]

here is a place to download the instrutions for the Charles 803. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/alcoholfuel/
look in the files section.

controling a still with an electric controller is a good way for the heating but in a packed column reflux still you need a seperate cooling system, assuming you want high proof.

[smutboy420]

Best place to controll it digitaly is if you use the controller to onen/close a valve for the cooling water going into the collum. So it controlles the temp of the collum. More so then the boiler.

There are also macanical tempering valves that can do the same thing. Just not as acurite or as sensitive. they also cost more then a digital.