cook ware

[Merlin]

I wasnt sure if this should go here or safety break

its kind of long, but interesting.

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008/08/pyrex.html

discuss

[Slow]

Read this (http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008/08/pyrex.html), then go anneal all your cookware in a fit of paranoia...

[SteppingRazor]

i seen it happen to a pan of brownies taken from the oven and placed on a just washed and somewhat damp stove top. the cookware is not as high grade borosilicate as the stuff we are used to.
~Joe C

[Slow]

Yeah, the article said it's all "tempered soda-lime" now. And apparently, the temper gradually wears off...

[Glacier_Arts_Studio]

been using Pyrex cook ware for most of my life...
seen it blow up a few times myself...
never got hurt myself or, had anyone else hurt...

the one thing for sure;

in every instance, it was my fault...!!!
no amount of annealing, can solve stupidity...
introducing blazing hot glass to water, even in
small amounts, will always result in an explosive
reaction... no fault of the manufacturing and/or,
annealing... also, temper doesn't just wear off...
you would have to raise the temperature,
beyond cooking temps to effect the temper
of any vessel... this is just another one of those
deals where dumb people mess themselves
up and try to find a way to blame anyone else
for their mistake... no matter how you look at
it, you can never fix "stupid"......

...

[seadal]

I have seen pyrex dishes used for some crazy things. A dish with liquid butane in it floating on boiling water. I have never seen a pyrex dish explode at those extreme temp. differences.

-.5C to 100C

But if a dish comes out of the oven at 300 on to some 60 degree water, that is a bigger difference.

[earlbacher]

well it says that its not pyrex... sounds like false advertising to me..

[jiminyrootkit]

pyrex dishes haven't been made of boro since 1998.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrex

all of my pyrex baking dishes are old as fuck, and i've abused the hell out of em, in terms of hot+water, and none have exploded.
i'm not saying i know without a doubt that it's not just some stupid fucks doing stupid shit with their dishes......
just that new pyrex is soda lime, not boro.....
and that boro is a helluva lot less prone to giving a damn that it was 300-400F when you put it on a wet rag or something than soda.
thermal shock is a bitch.
-f

[Slow]

Word, shit was kinda "tongue-in-cheek," ya know?
Like this:
"From now on, I'm cooking all my food in a ROOR; better safe than sorry!"

[menty666]

Jeez, sort of says you can't get the good stuff any more. I had a genuine corningware dish blow on me once, but it shattered on the stove and all I lost was the dish and my dinner. It was also probably as old as I was at the time :)

[Jupiter]

why are they even calling it pyrex if it isnt boro? can you temper boro?

still i bet you almost everyone of the broken pans were grabbed with a wet towel. people just dont understand glass. it is our duty to teach the laymen.

[Greymatter Glass]

glass is glass is glass.

You can temper boro.

Not sure if anyone does.

Probably Schott tho, if anyone.

-Doug

[Dom]

Thats why I use metal baking pans.

[blazemaster83]

i personally have had 2 pyrex pie dishes explode on me. they were 2 different types of pie dishes. the first wasnt even hot or anything. i used it to cook with a lot. i washed it with water and was wiping it clean with a towel and it exploded. luckily it didnt cut me or anything, but it broke into big shards just like that article said. i thought it was odd at the time.

the second one was a little warm, and i was scraping oil off it one day in my lap, and it exploded. luckily that one didnt hurt me either, but it broke into large shards as well. both times it scared the shit out of me and i had to check to make sure i wasnt cut. they were def made after 1998....bastards. i was always careful about big temp changes with em too. thanks for the reading, i dont think i will buy pyrex bakeware now, unless its from uk. it all makes sense....

[Alfred]

Read this (http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008/08/pyrex.html), then go anneal all your cookware in a fit of paranoia...

Considering the products being sold now as "PYREX" cookware are not borosilicate glass but TEMPERED soda lime glass(WTF?) ,I wouldn't even bother with trying to anneal.I would suggest instead trying to obtain "Pyrex" cookware products only from the European company ARC, mentioned in the article, or those made in the USA prior to 1998.If you do use this companies products just remember IT IS NOT BORO,and don't treat it as such.

I find it highly irresponsible that this company is marketing a soda-lime based glass under the "PYREX" brand name.The public has come to associate this brand with borosilicate and expect products with this brand name to behave accordingly ,regardless of any safety or handling instructions included or written upon the product.

[Alfred]

but it broke into big shards just like that article said.

This statement concerns me.They are claiming the products are made using TEMPERED soda-lime glass.I'm not even sure that statement is true.Isn't one of the characteristics of tempered glass that it breaks into small pieces not large shards?

[Mike_Aurelius]

What I don't get is why Corning is allowing this company to manufacture so-called "Pyrex" out of soda lime glass...and yet all of the product this same company makes and sells in Europe is true borosilicate. I just don't get it.

[themoch]

Three years later, not much has changed. Many consumers still rely on Pyrex bakeware for everyday cooking chores, trusting that the baking dishes can safely go from the oven to the countertop to the freezer.

you deserve to get cut if you're putting it from the oven to the freezer... fuckers think they can mess with the laws of thermal dynamics... :tongue2:

[menty666]

What I don't get is why Corning is allowing this company to manufacture so-called "Pyrex" out of soda lime glass...and yet all of the product this same company makes and sells in Europe is true borosilicate. I just don't get it.

They don't have any say; they sold the brand a loooong time ago.

[mer]

there were two threads on this topic so i just merged them. sorry for any discontinuity in thought progression.

[Mike_Aurelius]

They don't have any say; they sold the brand a loooong time ago.

They sold the brand, but not the trademark.

[Alfred]

They sold the brand, but not the trademark.

They've licensed the name to World Kitchen:


Though borosilicates had been produced before the Pyrex brand, the name Pyrex is widely used as a genericized trademark for the material. Corning sold off its Consumer Products division in 1998 as World Kitchen but retained the Pyrex brand name, licensing it to World Kitchen and other companies that produce Pyrex-branded cookware (e.g. Newell Rubbermaid's Newell Cookware Europe).[4]. The brand in Europe, the Middle East and Africa is currently owned by ARC International who acquired the European business in early 2006 from Newell Rubbermaid who in turn had acquired it from Corning in the 1990s.[5]

Pyrex kitchen products in Europe made and sold by a subsidiary of ARC International tableware company are made from borosilicate glass.[6]. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrex)

[Mike_Aurelius]

Precisely my point. It is licensed, so why isn't Corning taking steps to protect its investment in the name "Pyrex"...

[jiminyrootkit]

probably because they no longer have any financial interest in the name pyrex if they aren't making anything from it other than labware and raw stock.....which, correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't corning 33coe boro identified by a number instead of "pyrex" as far as rod/tube stock go?
only arc in the uk would really be hurt by it.
-f
ps. i agree tho, corning SHOULD do something. it's fucked up.

[Din]

Liquid butane in a pyrex dish, floating in boiling water? What ah, what were you doing there Seadal? Is that appropriate for this forum?

[rifabagus]

Having just had an incident where a Pyrex glass baking pan exploded in my oven, I'm wondering...isn't this also made of glass? If so, I'd advise that everyone avoid it like the plague! Pyrex glass bakeware DOES explode and I'd hate to hear that anyone bought any and had to go through this kind of horrifying experience like I had. I threw out out my other glass cooking saucepans also and I'm going to avoid both Pyrex and Anchor Hocking...both have many complaints about their glass bakeware or pans. From now on, it's metal only for me on cooking!
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[Greymatter Glass]

So let me get this straight....

You joined a glass blowing forum to resurrect a 5 1/2 year old dead thread to say "me too" ....

?

[PyroChixRock]

Ummmmm. Ok. :lol