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sanity7975
10-10-2008, 04:10 PM
RED TUBING IS BACK IN ALL SIZES !!!! CALL TODAY!!!!

812-339-1547

OR SHOP ONLINE!!!!

HTTP://WWW.COLORROD.COM

earlbacher
10-10-2008, 05:44 PM
whats up with the huge price jump?!?!?!

Lambs Bread
10-10-2008, 06:05 PM
Its abr where else can he get the money to buy every single web address with a relation to glass or a glass company that's out of business or a web address that sounds somewhat like another .....IM not hating just seems like that must cost alot.....

also if your looking for a little more red tubing and depending on where u buy your clear u can get the ion exchange yourself ...JAFE in ohio does it u send them clear they ion exchange it the website is www.jafedeco.com obviously its only worth it if u go bulk but if price is an issue its worth it. they have a set up minimum.

But than again if u need a tube or two it might be better to get it from ross sometimes its just easier.

Skye Perry
10-11-2008, 10:26 AM
whats up with the huge price jump?!?!?! I think instead of buying it by the pound you now buy it by the peice and the price listed is per peice instead of by the pound .It only makes sence since you bought it by the peice and where charged by the pound . Confusing I know.

sanity7975
10-13-2008, 07:44 AM
yes we revised the glass to by the piece so you will see a price on the piece not the lb which is more for some and less for others but all in all the same as it has been with the exception of he new 20 and 50 pound case prices which are now heavily discounted!!!

as for the many sites...

you know we have been in business for over 13 years and have aquired lots of neat stuff along the way!!! Not all of it cost alot of money but yet being at the right place at the right time sometimes helps!

The red tubing we are selling is red tubing not the ion coated stuff

we do sell that too but it is very expensive comnpared to this red colored tubing!!

If you have not tried this stuff you are missing out!!!

dudleybivens
10-13-2008, 09:09 AM
are there any pics online of red tubing? all I've ever seen is the ionx red, or amber, but I've never liked the amber, doesn't look like red it looks like dirty glass.

sanity7975
10-13-2008, 09:12 AM
no pic yet but not much to see it is just plain cherry red tube that you can see light through!! this batch looks great!!!

thanks

Buckeye
10-13-2008, 09:46 AM
are there any pics online of red tubing? all I've ever seen is the ionx red, or amber, but I've never liked the amber, doesn't look like red it looks like dirty glass.

The amber ION-X makes really nice honeycomb stuff if your not to good at fuming or don't like to fume.

Lambs Bread
10-13-2008, 11:21 AM
plus ionx is not a coating its an ion exchange very different than a coating

sanity7975
10-13-2008, 12:00 PM
indeed it is a ion exchange process removing the sodium ions from the glass surface and replacing them with silver, copper etc to make the tube colored ....
but it still burns up when overheated and turns to a nasty color if you are not carefull working it!!

this red tubing is just red color glass tubing it is much nicer you should try it !!

earlbacher
10-13-2008, 12:18 PM
well, thanks for that update.. good to know...
i ordered some of the ion red tube, heard about it some... should be an interesting experience...

sanity7975
10-13-2008, 12:51 PM
it will stay exactly how it comes to you if you do not flame flash the inside of the tube!!!

just work it and traat the rim like it is some boily color and you will be ok!!!

amber looks cool if you just barely flash the inside of it with the flame it turns a really neat antique color !!

if you want some true red tubing just give us a call!!!

we have it in stock!!

866-342-4764

Lithomancy
10-13-2008, 05:14 PM
does abr have a board discount?

$$$$$$$
10-13-2008, 05:47 PM
Ross, how many Exclamation point buttons do you have to replace each year? 3 or so?

Udai Hussien
10-13-2008, 05:58 PM
and each order comes with a free snake!!! Just for the kids. I used some of this red today by accident, thinking i had grabbed some 25/4

Lambs Bread
10-13-2008, 08:34 PM
lol ive never had problems with the little ive used same with black tubing treat it right and ur gold untill a hidden piece refractory brick checks the hold thing

Lambs Bread
10-13-2008, 08:34 PM
also jafee has a better way of exchange since ionx

dudleybivens
10-13-2008, 09:59 PM
when's it gonna go back down to 4 bucks a pound instead of 10? maybe 5 bucks a pound?

sanity7975
10-14-2008, 05:36 AM
Snakes ??? that is not us if you have ever been here you would know that for sure!!!


as for exclamations hell yeah !!!!!!! at least three!! what do you think i am a lightweight???

Black tubing ,, maybe you had some bad stuff but from what i have seen some artists doing with it you would be amazed!!! need help with working glass call my man cowboy he can teach you how to make it shine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(that was killer use of the old !!!!)

jafee vs ion x ... are you kidding it is the same thing and as for it being better now hahahahahahahaha the last batch i got turns orange not red that does not at all seem better you must work for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(that was yet another killer use of the old !!!!)


but seriously the color tubing is going up in price not down!

the american doller is in the toilet if you did not notice!

thus it is buying less from other countries making things more expensive

you should write your president and bitch!

but the red and black cost a little more than the other color tubes

we have installed a case pricing on our site for those who use this product to allow them to buy it a $5-8 per lb depending on the color!
check it out you can get it at that price you must buy a little quantity though

thanks


periods are for sissys!!!!!!!

sanity7975
10-14-2008, 05:42 AM
one more thing

the red tubing that we received is red not clear! you might want to try it!
it is pretty nice!

Lambs Bread
10-14-2008, 05:55 AM
sanity are you kidding either u havn't used it in awhile or your just try'n to sell your tube. i've worked a some of it no problem. the key is that the ion exchange is on the inner surface as long as u dont burn it out from the inside out. and dont be so coy i know they are the same thing but he himself said hes worked on the cook time and it allows for cleaner work ask him yourself if you know so much......1800 377 5233...also it says ....jafee is better since ionx context clue is since. i did not say better than i said since so context would tell you that they are one and the same ....pay attention

also they changed the name from ionx to jafee because of the bad wrap people gave it before he worked on it......and dont act like that red tubing is flawless. because the red tubing has its problems too.

i understand u wanna sell the marked up tubing but dont do it at the expense of jafee. i was mentioning them because i like there product alot. that is all

and i mention all the web address's because you have been here 13 years u dont really need all those web address's people already know your the walmart of distributors except the whole price thing

Eric S
10-14-2008, 10:07 AM
Black tubing ,, maybe you had some bad stuff but from what i have seen some artists doing with it you would be amazed!!! need help with working glass call my man cowboy he can teach you how to make it shine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Thats interesting that you mention cowboy because when i was in his shop a lil over a month ago there was no chinese glass to be seen anywhere. he had lots of nice large bubs with large sections of black, and i asked him about the color tube. he says he never uses anything chinese anymore, and showed me his color racks stocked with at least 100lbs of color, all bought directly from NS and GA. he coils more color in a day than anyone i've seen. but to summarize, he promised me every bub he has with solid black sections is coiled and not tube.

Eric S
10-14-2008, 10:09 AM
oh yeah, you say this is cherry red tubing. is it opaque? or is it the same transparent ruby tube that jumps from trans yellow to liver brown?

sanity7975
10-14-2008, 10:30 AM
it is red transparent tubing looks like cherry red try it is is much cheaper than the ion x or the jafe glass!!!

and does not scum when heated!!!

ahh yes cowboy did use it just call him and confirm!
his piece was on display at the two champs shows ago it had air brush paint job on the out side of it maybe you remember it!!! what you say may be true today but was not the case just months ago! any who he is pretty good blower if you need any help
as for working glass yes i have been doing that for about 14 years!
peace

jjglass
10-14-2008, 10:48 AM
*** Self Edit, don't want to be a troll ***

michaeL25
10-14-2008, 11:35 AM
but seriously the color tubing is going up in price not down!

the american doller is in the toilet if you did not notice!

thus it is buying less from other countries making things more expensive


I've had good service with my limited ordering experience with ABR, and I make this constructive comments in the nicest way possible.

This is Chinese tubing? Sorry if that should have been a given, but it doesn't state that on your site. The case pricing is close to the same (and even more I think in the 32mm size) for blue tubing compared to colosilicate. You should update your site to include that information. I'd be pissed if I bought Chinese glass thinking it was US. I've had limited experience with it, but have tried enough to think it sucks and or my skills don't allow for proper use; either way i'm done with it.

http://www.waleapparatus.com/catalog.asp?prodid=551091&showprevnext=1

http://www.dichroicimagery.com/product_info.php?cPath=424_423_13&products_id=3096

mer
10-14-2008, 11:44 AM
*** Self Edit, don't want to be a troll ***

thanks, we appreciate the self control. as for anybody who is taking part in this discussion i would ask that you remain respectful. this is the first time in my experience that ross has been willing to discuss issues with customers on this forum. it may be because these discussions can tend to become heated so please try to phrase your statements in a manner that won't come off as combative.

ross, thank you for taking the time to discuss this with the board. i hope that you will find that people are more likely to forgive past negative experiences if they see that you are listening to their concerns.

as for the !!!!!, if you think it helps, go ahead? i don't really get it.:puzzled:

sanity7975
10-14-2008, 12:34 PM
if you look at the tubing on our site it is clearly labeled asian which would let you know where it came from !!!

any who

have you tried this .... no it just came in to our warehouse this monday and you have not

you really should give it a chance it is pretty nice!!!

michaeL25
10-14-2008, 01:02 PM
I'm actually still not seeing anything that states or implies the origin of this tubing is Asian:
http://www.dichroicimagery.com/product_info.php?cPath=424_423_13&products_id=3096

The only tubing which states Asian are the clear tubes:
http://www.dichroicimagery.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=asian%20tubing&sort=4a&page=2

sanity7975
10-14-2008, 01:15 PM
well it is in the process of being updated as your right it was removed from the asian catagory recently
if you notice the asian color rod is labeled
http://www.dichroicimagery.com/index.php?cPath=424_423_84

so any how

you should try this red it is not shocky like the other stuff you have seen and it is really nice red!!!!!

man you guys are missing out!

HOSS
10-14-2008, 02:23 PM
I've got some of the new red tube on the way in several sizes, should be here Thursday. I'll let you all know how it compares to the old stuff. Even if it hasn't changed at all I'm glad we have a source for it again, I've missed it.

HOSS
10-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Ok so I've had a chance to play around with the new red a little, and its not that different from before IMO. The first and most obvious change is that instead of being nearly clear in its raw unworked form like the old stuff, now it starts off a nice translucent red similar to Ion-X. My guess is this means its being struck/annealed before leaving the factory now, but its only a guess. I haven't had any problems with cracking/exploding when introducing it to the flame like other chinese tube has been known to do.

The working properties seem pretty much the same as before, it is still easy to overstrike or strike unevenly, but can look really nice if handled carefully. Use a high oxy flame and try to keep it clear while working with it, garage at 1000 or under instead of 1050, don't run a strike cycle and keep the anneal time as short as possible. You can get a really nice dark red transparent color similar to dark ruby or elvis this way, if you're careful and/or lucky. If you leave it sitting at 1050 for a few hours a piece worked the same way will turn a more opaque, brick-like color. I don't like this as much as the translucent look but its not bad. If you try to strike it over 1050 or leave it sitting at that temp too long, it will probably go grey and livery, and nobody likes that.

So there ya go, this is just my opinion based on playing with it for one night (and previous experiments with the old stuff), so YMMV. But for the price I think its worth trying out.

firefreak
10-18-2008, 11:00 PM
I ordered some of the red tube, arrived a few days ago. looks pre struck. Not yellow-clear like the Chinese stuff from a year ago. been waiting for over a year to get more from any supplier. 25x4 tube.
Made several pieces, here is my take: does not explode like all the other colors. I've worked thru a tube and a half so far with no lost sections. Almost a record for Chinese color tube. ( I use every color they offer)It strikes a lot more even that the old stuff.It will still get the liver color if you let it cool to much when working, or leave it in the kiln to long. I use the red in the last hour or so of each torching session. Like Nemesis I garage at 990, run up to 1050 for 30 min , the start my cool down ramp. The red is still a lot more pain in the ass than the other colors. but my custys buy the shit out of it. Got a standing back order of 40 pieces of the red. I'm just glad it's back in stock! Wish I had the cash to buy a but load of it.
By the way. I'm making ornaments out of this stuff. Thin walls, 3 to 4 inches across. inside and outside decoration. Hence the short anneal time.

All in all a little better than the old stuff. In 5 years maybe it will be really good!!

cowboy
10-19-2008, 06:47 PM
Yes the pin stripped pieces were made with black tubing, I've never touched red tubing. The only time I have used black tubing is in pieces by itself, not sectioned pieces and further more I don't buy glass from china....ever......I buy my glass from NS, ABR and UST...thanks~

jr23
10-20-2008, 05:44 AM
I am finally glad to here somebody say something about only using the black by itself and not sectioned pieces as that is the only success I have had with the black too. I tried tell I was blue in the face to make a 4 piece sax shape going from black 2 amber 2 black 2 amber and failed all three try's.

sanity7975
10-20-2008, 01:11 PM
in five years ..... definatley!!! if they are still in business you know how that goes!!!!


but yes good quality like is said!!!!