Glasses Poll

[Greymatter Glass]

Ok....

Aura Lens....

or

Boroscopes?

[Greymatter Glass]

WTF.... Voter Apathy at an all time high.... 49 views and 7 votes... ya'll just lazy?

click a freakin' button... it's not gonna ask you your social security number or credit info heh
-Doug

[CosmicGlassInc]

I bought the phillips :eek Im selli'n and gettin some auras! :rollin

Jeremiah

S'up doug!

[sunray]

Sounds like a political poll Probably why the views and no votres lol
sunray

[Freewheelin]

49 views and 7 votes if you're not logged in or not a registered user you can view but not vote.

[IrieGuy05]

i STARTED USING A SHADE 5 FLIP OVER DIDYS..

[bc]

I love my phillips, have been using them for like three years an my eyes are 20/20. I really believe you don't need to spend 500 buck on glasses, my opinion. I gots the dork ones an I still look cool.


bc

[IrieGuy05]

Yeah I've been using didys for 2 1/2 years and the eye doctors said my vision had only detoriated as much as normal since the last time I went. I still don't think its good when I can't see the time on the clock after raging some big shit or working for a long time.. maybe your eyes are fine untill 20 years later and you can't see shit.. I started using the shade 5 cause my torch is too bright to see shit with just didys.

[swampglass]

i use enhanced amethyst lenses. they are great.

[Mike_Aurelius]

Doug - a little less politics might help, jat.

[Greymatter Glass]

...?

[IrieGuy05]

If you read this Mike, why wouldn't damage show up when I go to the eye doctor? Is it something like catarcts that shows up later? And what happens to people who weld or blow glass without the right glasses? Do they go blind or just have shitty vision?

[Mike_Aurelius]

Read the last couple of pages on the "Boroscopes" thread. I think it's on the 2nd page right now.

Basically, symptions start to show up after about 5 years. It will vary for everyone, based on genetics and exposure.

But, yeah, cataracts, retinal burns etc.

If you don't have the proper glasses to filter out the harmful radiation, essentially anything over about 900 nm (infrared, or heat energy), you are putting yourself at high risk for permanent eye damage.

[somberbear]

its called glass blowers blindness.... one of the reasons didyniums where created...
along with metal workers filters.

[Mike_Aurelius]

No somber. Didymiums were created to remove sodium flare, not to prevent glassblower cataract. Didymium has very little in the way of IR filtration, in fact it typically passes better than 80% of the IR energy.

Didymium was "created" as a filter in the 1940's for the vacuum tube industry so that the women making vacuum tubes could see the end of the tube while sealing it.

[Nightcat]

I'm savin' savin savin'! These Didy's with the shade 5's gotta go! Mike's 286's goggles with 3/5 split are on my "next to buy" list.

[RCglass]

Aura fitted my Oakley frame with some Agw 186, could be the most comfortable pair of shades for a glassblower ever.

[Joseph Corcoran]

Dear lord, why are there so many retards out there.

[langglass]

went to the eye doctor last month and got my check up and we talked about blowing glass and what effect it can have on the eyes...he said mine are fine but the solar flare from the torch can cause damage...he explained that what happens is the outter layer of the eye can get a kinda sunburn from exposure to bright light...then what happens is that layer dries up and starts to flake and peel which in turn can clog the ducts in your eye that help regulate pressure and then blam! u get glaucoma..bummer huh...oh and i have phillips..

[mer]

i have aura's with the old style rec spec frames. does anybody know of someplace that sells replacement straps and rubber? after seven years they get kinda beat up. they are great glasses but i did have some trouble with the order (four month wait). i got the feeling that it's a one person company.

[smutboy420]

I have a pair of the demon wrap goggles. 286's split lens shade 7 and They are nice. My eyes don't ever hurt after working a long day and more. They also seem to keep the hot air away from my eyes better then my wire frame 286's Do.

[ADelpapa]

Yo Mermonkey,

Replacement stuff for Rec Specs-

Halo Spors & Safety
9 Phair St
PO Box 1369
Cloversville NY 12078
518-773-4256

They got straps and nose pieces etc.

You would think that Aura Lens would carry replacement parts for the products they sell and have sold...maybe they do and their just not tellin'.

PEACE Jim
This is Mountainflame on ADelpapa's account, sorry not enough time to switch over.

[mer]

thanks mountainflame

[themoch]

i got myself 286 goggles with a shade 5 lower third...

i was getting headachs while working with my old pair of glasses... and i thought it was from stress, or from lack of water... but after i got my new goggles i no longer get any of these symptoms. i switched back for a bit to do just clear work, and the headaches came right back.

there's no way in hell i'm switching now.

i was talking to some lady the other week who did beads and stuff, claimed she teaches people too... well she was rummaging around through this bin of glasses (we were at a glass rummage sale of sorts) and she was like, i need a new pair for cheap. and i told her she should probably get some auras. she laughed, and then said who has 400$ to spend on glasses when these do the exact same thing... i replied, "heh, you're right.... ... ... hey, i forgot... how much is it for a new pair of eyes these days?" i smiled and i think that was the end of our conversation.

my eyes are everything to what i do with computers, glass, other art... there's no way i skip out on safety when it comes to that stuff.

[Greymatter Glass]

I wonder....

was it the same lady who made a kiln out of a halogen lamp?

[Kool]

I wonder....

was it the same lady who made a kiln out of a halogen lamp?

No, she doesn't use glasses at all! Maybe a pair of sunglasses from the dollar store when her eyes get tired.

[Swampy]

That strap and rubber O-ring/wodeva was the first thing that got launched.

I have a length of chain with a big jump-ring on each end. The jump-ring is big enough to fit over the leg of the spectacle but too small to slide off the plastic comfort strap that goes over your ear.

An easy mod cos I only want to pay for nearly 500 bucks of glasses once in a blue moon.

[josh(kennaroo)]

i use phillips boroscopes shade three. seems like afteer a long day making really thick stuff my eyes are kindof sensitive. am i killing my eyes? what shade is recommended for boro colors?

[mer]

it depends on what you mean by "sensitive". my optician s that it is not a big deal if they take a couple minutes before they read tiny letters well but if it lasts more than 15 to 20 min. then you should consider better protection......soon. shade 5 to 7 is what most blowers i know use for boro.

[β]

i use phillips boroscopes shade three. seems like afteer a long day making really thick stuff my eyes are kindof sensitive. am i killing my eyes? what shade is recommended for boro colors?

yes!! you are killing you eyes. do small stuff for now and order some full coverage auras shade 6

[josh(kennaroo)]

thanks. i was afraid that would be the answer. so i guess i'm going to up the protection to a shade five. what is the difference between phillips lenses and aurora? wouldn't a shade five be a shade five either way?

[Firekist]

if you don't get the split frames, you save a ton of loot. i got perscription single filters for a couple hundred bucks from mike.. i've paid way more for regular glasses.. and a bit less

z-seth

[β]

maybe mike will chime in(but i'm sure there's loads of info out there) but just because they say shade 3, doesn't mean they are still measured by ANSI(?) standards. ALSO, the "base" lens is not comparable to mikes 92 i do believe.

I have boroscopes shade 3's right now and liked them when i was doing small stuff <1" pendants, but the other day has was condensing a 4-5" ball and my eye started watering and twitching, got a headache, etc. Bad news. I almost bought a pair of 250's that day, but decieded to wait on the new frames coming out. I always wondered why boroscopes were bad and found out the hard way like you(kennaroo)

here's mike's link http://www.auralens.net/e_phillips3.cfm

[The Goat]

Liability Disclaimer:
Phillips Safety Employees are not optometrists and can only make suggestions concerning eye protection. There are many types of eye protection available and we manufacture as many as possible. Phillips Safety Products does not accept any liability concerning eye damage arising from the use, misuse, or non-use of any eyewear products we sell.



I think thats about all that needs be said.

[Mike_Aurelius]

Well, this is the Aura Lens disclaimer:



Aura Lens Products, Inc. shall not be liable for personal injury, incidental or consequential damages resulting from the use of this product, or arising out of any breach of this warranty. This warranty gives you specific legal rights and you may also have other rights which vary from state to state. If a problem with this product develops during or after the warranty period, you may contact customer service at (320) 253-0919 or (800) 281-2872.

THIS WARRANTY IS EXPRESSLY IN LIEU OF ALL OTHER WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING ANY IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.


In the society we live in, every business has to have a legal disclaimer of some kind. Although, given what we know about Phillips' product, I do have to admit their disclaimer IS funnny.

[brettodie]

josh go buy some flip down shade 5's from the welding store. problem i found with phillips other then there not the best protection is there small and let alot of heat ect. get to the eye,which tends to dry them out and make them sore. if you use the flip downs replace every 6 mnths or so. i use a pair of 92's with either flip downs or i have a sheet of shade 6 glass in a picture frame mounted on a flexy lamp stand mounted to my hood,which works great also keeps your face alot cooler. good luck peace brett

[menty666]

I just got a pair of 203's to use for mostly hobby boro use. Russ at ABR actually talked me out of the shade 6's I had ordered (mostly just to see what would happen; they were listed as $0.00 on his site).

The 203's were 140, but shade 6 286's were 200. I got the goggles and look like a giant bug. Kind of a neat effect really.

Would it be a good idea to get some shade 5 clips ons?

[Mike_Aurelius]

Shade 5 clips over 203's will give you a net of shade 8.5 - way too dark unless you are working quartz.

[somberbear]

well i broke down and finaly got every thing ready .... and now my prescript aura glasses are ordered and now the wait begins....


rob

[Mike_Aurelius]

LOL - if they were sent in over the past couple of days, they are already in process. I'm working on 'clearing the decks' so I can leave Friday on a much deserved vacation with my son...

PM me with the details if you want!

[TorchedGlass]

I am planning on uprading my glasses to aura's 286's.. What is everyone's suggestions on what shade to get 4,5,6.... I work solely with boro doing everything from small 1-2" pendants to 5" pieces. I work on a phantom. I was planning on going with the split lenses. Any recommendations on what split to go with? thanks and any help is appreciated.
barrett

[Swampy]

Barrett, if you're not sure what strength you need, ask Mike at Auralens, he can recommend what will suit you best.

I personally use a 3/5 split.

The 5 is great for working all day.

When I come to working say, the finishing loop on top of a pendant, it's hard to see the clear so I just tilt my head down a bit so's I can see what's going on through the shade 3 part of the lens.

I don't think the part 3 part of the lens would offer strong enough protection for continuous colour work, but that's just me okay. Ask Mike and see what he says.

[christopher]

I love my phillips, have been using them for like three years an my eyes are 20/20. I really believe you don't need to spend 500 buck on glasses, my opinion. I gots the dork ones an I still look cool.


bc

No, you don't look cool homey (LOL:)). I can say that cuz I'm the ugliest, most funny looking SOB in the world (no, that part of the sentence is not a joke. . .)

Just because you don't go blind in three years doesn't mean there's not small cumulative effects on your eyes. . .cataracts develop when you're older.

Me, I've just got some didys with a shade #5 on top. I look like a dork (but not as much of a dork as when I take them off. . .

[christopher]

and then blam! u get glaucoma..bummer huh...oh and i have phillips..

Yeah, but at least with Glaucoma you can get medical marijuana. . .


Not that a glassblower would want that.


Chip

[christopher]

Liability Disclaimer:
Phillips Safety Employees are not optometrists and can only make suggestions concerning eye protection. There are many types of eye protection available and we manufacture as many as possible. Phillips Safety Products does not accept any liability concerning eye damage arising from the use, misuse, or non-use of any eyewear products we sell.


Goat,

Do you work for Phillips? Is it philips that makes the didys?

[Mike_Aurelius]

There is no linkage between glassworking and glaucoma. None. Cataracts yes, but not glaucoma.

Just wanted to clear that up.

[The Goat]

Goat,

Do you work for Phillips? Is it philips that makes the didys?




No, I don't work for phillips. I just think its funny they make eye protection and in their disclaimer they say "Phillips Safety Employees are not optometrists".

If your not optometrists then why are you making eye protection? dosen't make sense to me. LOL
Its like saying we have no idea what dangers are present when blowing glass we just think this dark lense will help protect your eyes, but were not sure.

[Mike_Aurelius]

LOL Goat.

The people at Aura are manufacturing opticians, which means we are experienced in making glasses.

We also do a lot of research on our products so we can be sure we are selling proper protection to our customers.

An optometrist (for those who don't know) is a variety of eye doctor, but not an MD (kind of like a chiropractor isn't a physician). An ophthalmalogist *IS* an MD with a specialty in diseases of the eye.

It is kind of silly to make that statement...

[TorchedGlass]

Thanks for your help swampy. I guess I would go with the 3/5 split. Does the shaded part of the lens wear out like regular flip down shade 3 or 5?? Or is it a different, more lasting material?
thx

[Mike_Aurelius]

It's glass. Fixed tint, stable, will not fade. The problem with plastic/polycarbonate filters is that they are dyed and dyes tend to fade with time and exposure. Glass doesn't. The filter is part of the glass matrix, just like color in borosilicate glass.

[TorchedGlass]

Thanks mike. That answered my question...:D

[Lampwork49]

I think a poll is fair but the options suck!! WTF
I've got and used both ,they are both great manufacturers of great eyewear
And not many if any are more knowledgeable on the subject than MIKE

[Y-M-4-2-0]

i got a pair of agw186's before they discontinued the flip-ups. my shade 5 & the arms broke off dropping them too many times, but i have an eyeglass manufacturer 2 miles from my house so i had them weld new arms back on......great protection, havent had any problems(headaches/blurry vision) since switching from didydiums............never liked the split lens, gotta concentrate too much on which side to keep looking through(friend got a pr of em)