IHGI webcast

[lucidvisions]

Got this email today, thought it would be of interest to you all that cannot attend.

Josh

Greetings! Glasscraft and Bead Expo is excited to announce that everything is together for our LIVE streaming web broadcast of the International Glass Invitational. The video will be made available throughout the weekend. Details on how to access the web stream can be found later this week on our web site... http://www.internationalglassinvitational.com/

Streaming of the event will begin at 6:00pm PST, Friday, April 3rd. We will broadcast the night in it's entirety. Saturday's broadcast will begin at 5:00pm PST, with our attempt to establish a new world record for the longest hot glass cane pull. We need 250', but hope to cover a football field. The broadcast will continue until the conclusion of the IGI at 9:30 pm PST.

We will have 3 cameras catching the action and routed through the webstream. Only 1 camera at a time can be routed to the webstream, but our camera crew will be catching all the hot action. We are working with the same crew that has experience covering Ultimate Fighter Championships, International Fight League and World Series of Poker. We expect a great show!!! Please help support this event and the future of this event by subscribing and getting the word out.

Schedule
Friday 6:00 6:30 pm Friday night Opening ceremonies 6:30 7:00 pm Team competition, 3 hours of non stop action

Flameworking competitors
Pontilmotion Frabel Centrifugal Force Lone Star Team EGS Wienmeyer

Furnace Demonstration
Michael Angelo Menconi George Kennard

Saturday
5:00 - 6:00 pm Guiness World Record attempt, world's longest cane pull 6:00 - 6:30 pm 2nd night introductions 6:30 - 9:30 pm Team Competition, 3 hours of non-stop action

Flameworking competitors
Rocker Men in Black Pitagora Northstar Onion Mountain Scientific Splash

Furnace Demonstration
Einar and Jaimex de la Torre

[shark bait]

Josh, Thank you for posting this. Rep points coming your way.

I am so excited to watch this event. The last time I was this excited to see a event was when I was a kid. It was WrestleMania 2. (I can not watch the wrestling now, but back then I loved it)

[themoch]

got that too!

good call you guys who are organizing. this only makes me wish i had found better tickets for airfare so i could have gone.

[Ben Burton Glass]

If you haven't gotten thisevent streamed to your CPU yet, ORDER IT NOW!!!

I've been in the GIANT arena all day running OXY and Propane lines, and setting up manifolds and all sorts of stuff!!!

There are 6 big stations set up, plus a small hot shop that are going to be RAGING this weekend!!! The whole setup is so bad ass I can't even describe it properly!! There are kilns that I can crawl into and an army of liquid tanks waiting to get tapped and used!!! All brand new all super clean and sweet!!

This is going to be the BIGGEST flame-off ever held and it's something you definitely don't want to miss!! If you're not here in person, you should definitly get the live streaming of the event because it's going to be EPIC!!!

A lot of people have already showed up and the big names for the event are gonna be ariving tomorrow!! So get ready for some sick sick sick glassblowing action!!! If you're here, I'll see you there and if you're not hopefully you'll see me on your CPU at some point in the night!! LOL!

Aloha!

[Izzy Spun]

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[medicatedMELTDOWN]

So they updated the website to now allow you to buy the webcast...
https://ims.istreamplanet.com/transact/hotglass/
"Just $30.00 for all-access to both events,
both live and on-demand!"


I can't believe they aren't giving more information if they are expecting people will pay $30 for this. It would be really good to at least know what the video resolution will be.

If anyone is going to buy this please let me know. I want to find out if it is actually worth $30..... I would definitely buy it if it was less money.

[Arik]

$30? wow..... must be in 1080p-3D!

seriously.....


was definitely into this until i saw the price tag....

did anyone buy this?.....if so please demonoid it.

[HOSS]

I'm hoping there will be a DVD of it for sale later. If I'm paying $30 for it I'd much rather have it on disc.

[themoch]

this is true, i would be 10x more inclined to purchase a DVD for 30$ rather than watch it streaming live.

with my internet it's likely to fail (good old comcast)

[misticglass]

alot cheaper than flying to vegas and getting a hotel room

[jr23]

I paid why the hell not I gots the extra!

[medicatedMELTDOWN]

well let us know what the stream is like......... good quality? any lag?

Is there really going to be a DVD of this event or is that just a rumor?

[misticglass]

ya i paid there playing Biscuits and i have some beers ready.. gonna be a good night... starting in 10 min.

[jr23]

no prob they say they have camera men from ufc they should no how to watch action. All they would need is a good assistant to point them to where the good tech shit is going down.

[themoch]

so what's up? any good?

[misticglass]

lewis wilson sang a song in a suit, now jason harris is walking around to the different teams, talking and whatnot.

facility looks pretty sick. video is decent.

[jr23]

Although the singing was nice the camera is getting good action shots. Well worth it for me for sure.

[Ro's Glass World]

as i said in other thread, first hour and a half i got frame by frame not real time, but could hear the sound real time, just video real slow.

then it kicked in and i could see things as they were happening, not sure if it was my end or theirs, but it was really cool, great work by the cameras and amazing glass art, really blew me away. cant wait to see pics of the finished work.

i have a wedding to go to tonight so i will likely miss the whole thing:(

i will likely buy the dvd if it comes out as well. for 30$ it was nice to see real time and feel the excitement and stress of getting done in time and still making solid connections, thats not the same when your watching it after the fact.
ro

[broken glass]

if i had a computer in my shop by my tourch, I would deff buy it up, but to watch a half hour before bed, really not worth it. But if there is a DVD.......yup If i was not so broke, wiht taxes almost due i would be there 4 sho

[boxfan willy]

Team Rockers is setting up for the competition tonight with a fourteen foot spinning jig! Tonight is also the night for the Guinness Book of World Records attempt at the world's longest latticino pull.

Don't want to miss the action tonight? Go to http://www.internationalglassinvitational.com/ for LIVE streaming web broadcast of the International Glass Invitational. The video will be made available throughout the weekend.

Tonight's teams:

Northstar: Scott Deppe, Clinton Roman, Darby Holm & Banjo

Onion Mountain: Eusheen Goines, Natey Biskind, Eli Aller & Chaz Pyle

Men in Black: Milon Townsend, Jacob Hyman, Justyn Schoenfeld & Eric Bailey

Pitagora: Bandhu Scott Dunham, Andrew J Pollack, Cameron Reed & Dan McCarney

Rockers: Hamm Brushland, Marcel Braun, Carlin "C$" Sage & Elijah Copeland

Scientific Splash: Doni Hatz, Julie Riggs, Tim "Fuzwirm" Williams & Tim Kornahrens

The action starts at five LIVE via subscription at http://www.internationalglassinvitational.com/

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.editAlbumPhotos&albumID=1493546&MyToken=929a0482-ad18-45fe-8ddc-564f92da3b38

[gremlinglass]

Paid to watch the webcast. Friday played just fine and was really cool so I was really pumped to see Saturday. On Saturday for some reason it just kept giving me a screen telling me my licenses had already been delivered when I tried to log in with my e-mail and password. I tried 7 e-mail attempts to both support@ that were offered to get customer service to help me out but go no help or response. I called my credit card company who gave me a number to call for customer support and no one was available to take my call there. So yea i'd kinda like to watch the "live" feed I paid for but I would settle for just an e-mail explaining how I can watch the prerecorded show at this point. Like I said I can watch Fridays event no problem but it's giving me some runaround about licenses and limits about Saturdays event. I know I haven't gone over any limit it never let me watch the thing. :wes:
Gremlin

[misticglass]

that sucks, it worked for me when i just opened it in windows media player like i did the night befor.

but at first i tried signing in with a password it said a similar error. you might have just already been signed in and not known it. im sure youll be able to watch it recorded.

2nd night was pretty sick marcel and crew made a 10ft tall rocking chair out of stock tubing. among other festivities

it was worth it.

-m

[jr23]

Gremlin it was on demand so no worries about that you did view the day one . Same thing happened to me then I went to the website and hit the link for starting day two you have to type in your e-mail and password. easy to forget in all the excitement. Then hit play It will start if you have not viewed it yet.

[gremlinglass]

No thats just it. I have clicked on the link for 2 days probably like 50 times since it was to start on Saturday till now (Says click here to watch Saturdays event) then I try to sign in using my e-mail and password (which I made when purchasing this event) Friday works fine and plays when I click it BUT SATURDAY when I click it and then try to enter my password It says my license has already been delivered or what i'm trying to watch has "viewing limits" ( i'
ve never viewed Saturdays show)
No one has bothered to fix this problem after more than enough of my time and energy trying to e-mail IHGI support@ or the istreamplanet @support@ and calling my card company to get istreamplanet phone number for support (where no one is available to take my calls.)
If it is because I am already signed in how do I sign out so I can sign back in for Saturday. I still cant watch the prerecorded show that was about 25 of my 50 login attempts.
Gremlin

[gremlinglass]

Okay so I called the istreamplanet number again and got through to someone this time. They reset my thing or whatever and now when I enter my e-mail and password it works. I'm gonna go watch it now. Not really what I had planned for the day but I really want to see this thing live or prerecorded.
The first one was great with Lewis Wilson opening the show with "Mini The Moocher" and some really amazing work being done by all teams involved. Team Lone Star even busted out the tee-shirt cannon. Alright, I been waiting since Saturday to see this finish. Peace
Gremlin

[Ben Burton Glass]

I'm glad to hear you've got everything working Roy! You should have access to the footage for 14 days after you purchase it as well...

Saturday nights events were awesome!! I'm sure you'll be stoked on the video!!

aloha!

[gremlinglass]

Yea finally got to watch it. It was really cool. The people that showed up to participate in this event have really set the bar high for future team flame offs. I mean building a special giant spinning rig to build your 10 foot rocking chair with and having your own crucible of color is really "bringing it" you know. Cant wait to see the next one.
Gremlin

[Greymatter Glass]

$30? wow..... must be in 1080p-3D!

seriously.....


was definitely into this until i saw the price tag....

did anyone buy this?.....if so please demonoid it.

I tried to hold my tongue (fingers?)...

Arik, a block buster movie or new pop album that's going to make many people very rich many times over is one thing - but it's still stealing.

WE are part of a fledgling industry. The producers of the First International Hot Glass invitational have put more into a single event than they ever have before. We're talking mortgage the house and go-for-broke on a single throw of the dice. Those dice are still rolling. Vegas baby....!

This event was not paid for by a casino or otherwise rich backers with nothing to do but waste money.

The last I heard was they are still trying to break even on costs.


For you to come here and suggest that someone should steal from people who are among us all friends, associates, peers, mentors, parents, teachers, students etc etc, for YOUR gain is disgusting to me.


How would you feel if someone came to your house and stole your torch, or better yet $100,000+ worth of your finished hard work and sold it to shops around you for dirt cheap, or gave it away for free?


It's one thing to be of a philosophy that says information SHOULD be free, it's another to steal from the hands and mouths of the people that without whom you wouldn't have that information in the first place.


-Doug

[Arik]

I tried to hold my tongue (fingers?)...

Arik, a block buster movie or new pop album that's going to make many people very rich many times over is one thing - but it's still stealing.

WE are part of a fledgling industry. The producers of the First International Hot Glass invitational have put more into a single event than they ever have before. We're talking mortgage the house and go-for-broke on a single throw of the dice. Those dice are still rolling. Vegas baby....!

This event was not paid for by a casino or otherwise rich backers with nothing to do but waste money.

The last I heard was they are still trying to break even on costs.


For you to come here and suggest that someone should steal from people who are among us all friends, associates, peers, mentors, parents, teachers, students etc etc, for YOUR gain is disgusting to me.


How would you feel if someone came to your house and stole your torch, or better yet $100,000+ worth of your finished hard work and sold it to shops around you for dirt cheap, or gave it away for free?


It's one thing to be of a philosophy that says information SHOULD be free, it's another to steal from the hands and mouths of the people that without whom you wouldn't have that information in the first place.


-Doug
:bouncy:
hey, right on! so is this the start of the dogpile you threatened to unleash....
:blowkiss:
type away there good buddy.....

love, your best friend
AK

[ACE]

i don't know about any previous shit or any "dogpiles"

but the people that put up the money for this and organized this are friends of a lot of us and long time members of this forum. so i'm sure douge isn't the only one that is going to feel emotionally butt hurt over you threatening what little, if any, profit they make from this. i'm guessing the only reason they haven't posted a response to your original comment is because they are still in vegas winding things down.

[Arik]

I did not threaten anyone......

I personally dont care for politicians, lawyers, real-estate people, insurance creeps, or profiteering media......regardless of their personal relations to other people I dont know on the internet.

and furthermore....ANYONE who ever downloaded ANYTHING pirated should not speak here......for thinking that someone in your circle deserves to eat MORE than that of someone OUTSIDE your circle....actors, screenwriters, musicians, program writers.....ect

I dont upload. I am not the source of any "taking" of profits from any torrents....and considering that torrent people dont buy media, there is no loss from these not becoming sales....we are 2 entirely different consumers.

so.......is the existance of this site "threatening" the profits of the glasscrafting book writers, or instructional video makers....because they want to profit on the information your giving away for free here.....and they are part of this community your speaking of.......

And what about the Teachers.....you are stealing the profits from them too...and they have come here to complain about the damage in their lives from lack of enrollment, due to free online help.

like Gnarls Barkley....I could go on, and on, and ooooooo-oo-on, but who cares?

[Mr. Whale dick]

actors, screenwriters, musicians, program writers.....ect



those people make millions of dollars

[naughty pirate wench]

Inquiring minds REALLY REALLY want to know...

will this be offered on DVD pretty please????? (so I can pause the action to yell at my kids)

please?

peace,
c

[Arik]

would it be immoral for me to ask someone to donate it to my local community free public library?

I see it as the same.

[Ben Burton Glass]

Why don't you go and make one extra piece during your work day, and that should do more then cover the $30 cost for the webstreaming...

Help support the community that you belong to, so we can have this event again next year! It was a really awesome show and the caliber of the work was beyond top notch. Everyone that was involved pushed the bar some way or another, and it's definitely worth seeing....

If the $30 is to much for you, I guess you're SOL... You'll be the one missing out on all of the awesome work and the great time that was had....

Aloha

[Midas]

Arik I don't know you, sounds like I probably would not care to either. I think Doug and Ben has said enough for me. We are all a part of this commUNITY for each other and for our industry. People spent lots of time,energy and money for this event that won't be recovered. But they did it for the love!

And yes there will be a DVD, and Wil and Jen are talking about a special issue of the FLow dedicated to this event.

Is $30 dollars really alot for this! I 'm going quit typing now and remeber what momma said-"if you can't say something nice, do not say anything at all"

[naughty pirate wench]

And yes there will be a DVD

MIDAS!!!!! You just made my day!!!! :blowkiss: YESSSSSSSS!!!!! :clap::confetti::heart::party: I can't wait to see the DVD!!! So now my big question is WHEN will it be released? Any rumors yet?

peace,
c

[jr23]

I would bet days. They have the footage and the stream went so smooth there camera crew did such a unbelievable job.

I thought that the timing was just right on the cutaways. seeing they had lots of teams.
I loved the furnace demos too. I feel they where a great way to acknowledge the bridge crossing that has been and will continue to drive us .

[jusbag]

i'd be stoked on a dvd. no internet out here in the country...

[Islandglass Man]

ARIK I have not had the pleasure of meeting you but I have to say you have no clue as to what went on in Vegas. The steaming video of this event will allow more of the lampworking community to enjoy the most spectacular event that has ever happen for our craft.

If you can't get you head around that maybe you should think about what you have contributed to the craft. Ben has given you a good suggestion go with it.

Bear

[Ben Burton Glass]

The DVD will still probably be a while... It's gonna take some time to do the editing and everything else that's involved in creating a high quality program... But I'm sure it'll be worth the wait...

I was at the event and I'm planning on buying at least one copy of the DVD when it is released, if not a few to give out to my friends as gifts... Every DVD purchased goes to support the community that organized this event, and will help justify the 2nd Annual IHGI for next year!!

I CAN'T WAIT!!!! WOOOOOO HOOOOO!!! and JAGERONI!!!


Aloha!

[Greymatter Glass]

Arik, Wil has always been very generous with donations and discounts to schools and libraries - I don't think it's out of line at all to hope to see a copy of this in accredited libraries and reputable/established Glass Schools.

I would say that making a copy from a loaner would be in equally poor taste, and still stealing from people who make what you do possible, but ultimately YOU have to decide what your reputation and character are worth to you.

[lucidvisions]

My buds from High School came down to Vegas to watch, who know nothing of glass were already to throw down the cash for a vid. They didn't even think of asking me to burn a copy for them. Plus they even bought their own tickets when I could have probably gotten them some free ones.

Don't forget where the money is going, which is to hopefully make this happen again. Ya think it was cheap to rent out a 30,000 square foot arena in Vegas?and don't for a second think that Will and others now went back to TX and went on a shopping spree from all the cash they made.

To Will, Jennifer and all their crew, THANK YOU! I'll make all my family and friends buy one when they come out.

Josh

[Arik]

Arik, Wil has always been very generous with donations and discounts to schools and libraries - I don't think it's out of line at all to hope to see a copy of this in accredited libraries and reputable/established Glass Schools.

I would say that making a copy from a loaner would be in equally poor taste, and still stealing from people who make what you do possible, but ultimately YOU have to decide what your reputation and character are worth to you.

I dont make copies...i watch, and delete.....but I see you have a way of playing words to degrade a situation there dougee...

and I guess your the one who decides what someones reputation is....with great accusations. quite the talent....

Just looking for a free copy of an entertainment media....just like you all download or borrow from the library...and this is just that and nothing more...as I will never benefit from the producers of this making $$$ any more than when Snoop makes $$$, and no one in this production has ever helped my studio or family in any way, so I dont see how they are in my commUNITY...other than maybe being my competition in manufacturing...

its just media people....

oh.....and just want to point out that I got my demonoid access from a mod here......so its the community that got me started downloading to begin with....

[lucidvisions]

Arik,

I'm pretty sure this will fall on deaf ears but all I keep talking about to my friends and family is how much of a community was there. All supportive, all full of love, all talented beyond words.

You seeing them just as competition is truly a huge loss to you and you have no idea how big "huge" is.

Stealing is stealing no matter how YOU try and define it and you're excuse that "other's have done it" is so weak.

Josh

[Ben Burton Glass]

Wow man..... AK you're diggin yourself into a hole among our community man... But to each his own, do what you gotta do... Just don't expect much respect or support from the glass world if you ever need it... They might not be there to help out... (and honestly, you might never need the support of this big family that's done nothing to further your progress as a glass artist cause you're that badass...)

Aloha!

[boxfan willy]

Jen and I just got home an hour ago. I will be posting several times for shout outs and what not.

Anyone who had trouble with the stream, please e-mail me boxfanwilly@gmail.com
If you couldn't get it to work, didn't like the quality, whatever, I will take care of it. It was a last minute to try to make it available to everyone. My apologies for any inconveniences.
DVD will come out, but editing could take as long as 2 months. Please remember that we are trying to get this to the networks, so it has to be titties!!

I would like to thank my family for having my back, but I got this.

Arik, How dare you even suggest to take away from the hardwork and investment of so many good people. I will be MC'ing at the Degenerate next month. I'm sure I got a few minutes for ya. Better asks about me, better asks about me!

Big love to the family. Ya'll put on a hella show.

[Arik]

sorry for the hard feelings there willy.....just actually started out as sarcastic humor but after a personal poke by douge I let it become debateable like anything people get passionate about.....

the act of getting others to feel or express emotion = ART

its what I do.....
and I am DAM GOOD at it....

(in a beevus-butthead voice)"huh-huh....she said 'butt hurt' huh-huh-hu-hu-huh"

anyway....this was fun yall...just as much entertainment as watching the show.

as for the degenerate show.... I wasnt invited to that one either...sooooooo, it doesnt look like having a few minutes is gonna do us much good if you wanna get together....but if your in the area and you honestly want to visit for some reason I guess you could shoot me a pm and we could steer ya up the hill....

"be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind dont matter and those who matter dont mind" YO!

"I can say what I want to....even if I'm not serious....."
"people tell me what to say, what to do, and what to play.....just kidding....."
Maynard James Keenan

[Mr. Whale dick]

the act of getting others to feel or express emotion = ART

its what I do.....
and I am DAM GOOD at it....




what a wonderful, humble apology

[Mr. Whale dick]

i would like to add...will is one of the most important people we have in flameworking.....


good job trying to take food off his kids table....

[Udai Hussien]

Calm down andy!!!

Wil, don't sweat the unimportant stuff. Congrats on the show, and I wish you huge success in the future.

[michaelangeloglass]

Nice, I could not think of anything more kewl then a webcast, alot of people I'm sure wanted to go but couldn't swing it.

And Arik, wow dude I spent well over a g to come out and worked my ass off...

You know what, I had a great time and didn't sweat the money cause that must have cost more then it made, but then again how can you put a price tag on a moment in time?

I'm glad its captured , and done well I might add.

Things are always easy to say...

" Don't touch me, I'm sensitive!!!" lol

[ACE]

no one in this production has ever helped my studio or family in any way, so I dont see how they are in my commUNITY...other than maybe being my competition in manufacturing...


clearly it isn't your community, otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation.

but, make no mistake this is OUR community. and i'm not the only one who will defend OUR community fiercely, because they are all beautiful artists, wonderful friends and do things like this for nothing but LOVE for our community.

[boxfan willy]

Way to many are emotionally attached to this event for this to be a productive thread. I would ask that the mod's close this thread so we can get a freshy to find out how we can improve things for a hopeful next year.
It is still important for me to hear who had problems with the webcast so we can get right with them, but I would prefer a seperate thread.

Arik, I would RESPECTFULLY ask that since you obviously do not support these efforts that you do not detract or subtract from the next thread. I also apologize for the reaction. I should have been more professional.

Respect

[boxfan willy]

Also, I had informed a few people that the event broke even. The girls, Patty and Lee Anne, had told me this during the event to keep me up. They knew what it would do to moral if I knew we were not hitting our numbers.

Point is we have not broke even and now rely on Istream and vid sales to cover the loss, and it is no small number. SO, if we want to do this again, I humbly ask you to break in that cookie jar when we start doing vid presales.

Respect

[Greymatter Glass]

Wil, let us know when the DVD is available, and I'll take as many as I can afford.

I'll also sponsor next year if I can, in some small way, to make sure this goes off for round 2. (or would it be rounds 3 and 4?)

[Arik]

Way to many are emotionally attached to this event for this to be a productive thread. I would ask that the mod's close this thread so we can get a freshy to find out how we can improve things for a hopeful next year.
It is still important for me to hear who had problems with the webcast so we can get right with them, but I would prefer a seperate thread.

Arik, I would RESPECTFULLY ask that since you obviously do not support these efforts that you do not detract or subtract from the next thread. I also apologize for the reaction. I should have been more professional.

Respect

Let me say I give to the community what they give to me......

and no-one here ever reaches out to be nice to the AK....

doubt it will ever change...

guess this means your not coming over for lunch?

[giganteglass]

will, all, what a great show, i was inspired and amazed. This show was amazing and has even more potential for future years. The teams all were out of sight.

Will any of the final pieces be offered for sale? if any teams wanted to sell their works (maybe too attached to be possible), im sure there are some big pockets to be found (if looked for). A 10% fee to the ihgi might help profits/losses. Vegas is also a good place to find free spending folks, possibly display some pieces in the hotel(s)/casino(s)? the work produced was above top notch.

AK, i see where your freedom of info/video ideas are based, but disney/pixar/mtv were not putting this on with the goal of making media money. If you speak out of anything other than provocation, you are ignorant and have not made use of this forum. there are people reaching out and giving out info and techs for free almost daily!! Your competitors, giving out free info!! those people are reaching out and giving to you, and me, and the community. So take advantage of what they have given out, and be thankful/grateful, dont try to make them mad in the name of "art".

[JennWilson]

To Wil, Jen, Barry, LV Management, Jason, Jenny, my Dad, everyone at the Flow, all the volunteers (Rashan, Ben, Cisco, Jean, Nyles....forgetting everyone else I saw zipping around), the camera crew, contestants, etc:

Outstanding job! Getting the webfeed to happen was a monumental accomplishment that I know many of the Flame Offs in the past have looked into, but have not been able to pull off.

Sometimes you have to take a hit (financially speaking) to do something the way it needs to be done. The important thing is to keep your reputation stellar - and that's what you all did. Going forward people are going to remember what happened, and those that may have gawked at the price to attend or view the event should better understand the cost involved to do so.

I do think most in our glass community get back as much, if not more, as they put into it. If you aren't getting anything out of it - you know where to start to correct it.

Jenny
www.crystalmyths.com

[PyroChixRock]

the act of getting others to feel or express emotion = ART

its what I do.....
and I am DAM GOOD at it....

(in a beevus-butthead voice)"huh-huh....she said 'butt hurt' huh-huh-hu-hu-huh"

anyway....this was fun yall...just as much entertainment as watching the show.



I can't believe I just read that. You have just bought yourself a vacation from The Melting Pot. We do not allow this kind of behavior here, Arik. I doubt you'll be getting a 5th chance with us.


Way to many are emotionally attached to this event for this to be a productive thread. I would ask that the mod's close this thread so we can get a freshy to find out how we can improve things for a hopeful next year.
It is still important for me to hear who had problems with the webcast so we can get right with them, but I would prefer a seperate thread.

Arik, I would RESPECTFULLY ask that since you obviously do not support these efforts that you do not detract or subtract from the next thread. I also apologize for the reaction. I should have been more professional.

Respect

Absolutely. I'm sorry that there are some negative things going on in this thread but in the big picture of things it's positive. People got your back, and we want you to cover your costs.


Also, I had informed a few people that the event broke even. The girls, Patty and Lee Anne, had told me this during the event to keep me up. They knew what it would do to moral if I knew we were not hitting our numbers.

Point is we have not broke even and now rely on Istream and vid sales to cover the loss, and it is no small number. SO, if we want to do this again, I humbly ask you to break in that cookie jar when we start doing vid presales.

Respect

We will help out and buy a copy for the library here, but we will not put it up to be checked out for a year, if that's long enough for ya. ;)

Alright thread closed, make a freshy. You won't have AK to mess it up anymore. Sorry about that, Wil.