my eyes are melting...

[boy got skills]

Only been working with glass for a few months, bought everything I needed to learn besides glasses :glasses2:I definitely can tell my eye sight is worse now... I'm not looking for the most expensive pair but I need shade 4-5 for boro right? Anyone have a pair they can sell? $100 price range is cool thanks

[FredLight]

Try $150 minimum.

[boy got skills]

Just need a decent pair. Price is negotiable lower the better tho

[Icarus]

Go to Generations, there Phillips Green ACE's in the econo-frames sell for $90, and you can get shade 3 or shade 5. Other than that, most of them range from $125 to $150

http://www.generationsglass.com/Eye_Protection.html

Plus, remember being a forum member you get 10% off your order by using the "GDBD" coupon code.

I have a pair of the fit-over shade 3's, and my only complaint about them is that I didn't buy a shade 5. They're great, and the price on them was awesome compared to another protective safety glass companies products.

I will say it's worth paying a little extra to get something above the economy frames. My fitover's are the wrap style and they are more comfortable than the economy frames (especially the fitover economy frames), and I don't look like as much of a dork when wearing them (cause i have to wear normal glasses under my safety glasses).

[Johan]

You can always get shade 5's from a local welding supply shop. i got mine for $5 and they are very very nice.

Its nice to have the didy's with the shade 4 or 5 flip ups.

[FredLight]

Look, I bought a few different pairs trying to save money and what I learned was I would have saved money had I just bought the right ones from the start.

I got the Aura's with the "downtown" frames from Glasscraft for $160 and that's what I use to this day. Comfortable, light and durable.

[The Lorax]

new glasses will always be cheaper than new eyes... if you can't pay the cash for some good glasses, put the glass aside.

[Icarus]

new glasses will always be cheaper than new eyes... if you can't pay the cash for some good glasses, put the glass aside.

Word.

[SNYD]

Glasses should be your #1 priority, Funny thing is I know artists that work for 12 hours at a time and still just where didy's.

[Kool]

Like rg said, if you can't afford the pair you want/need, you can get by for a while with some shade 5 flips over your didys. The plastic ones only last so long (6 months or a year??) before they have to be replaced. That way you can save up and get exactly what you want.

[jedi glassworks]

ooouuuuch....My eyes are burning just thinking about not wearing glasses. Definately get the right pair. If you are just starting out and skimping on your EYEWEAR, maybe you should rethink your approach, read some safety info, and try again.
On another safety subject, do you have ventilation?

Bryan

[donaldo]

A cheap solution for shade 5; until I can afford some good glasses, I am using a welding shield glass plate mounted onto my small torch. The size is 4.5" by 5.5". I bought two of them off e-bay shipped for under $10.

[boy got skills]

whats up jedi. yeah, i definitely need a pair my eyes are seriously getting f'ed up .. a signed pair from you would do nicely tho, what cha think :P

[jedi glassworks]

Hah, as long as you get a pair of shades...

And donaldo, the welding shade is only half way there, and the other half is the important one.
Bryan

[CitizenNot]

shit but me a pair of phillips and i'll send you my Aura Lenses, 286 split 3/5's.

[ALIEN!]

You can get some phillips diddy's in a nice frame for around 100, then get the phillips shade 5 flip down lenses and cut half lenses out of them. I do a rough cut with a tin snips, a fine cut with a side cutters (good pair of cutters) and file all the edges until they're a perfect fit. Then just hot glue them in place and whalla, nice set of 50/50 shades. I just made a new pair, I love them. Stay away from the "old fashioned woodshop class" frames, you'll hate the weight of them and wish you spent $ on a decent frame. Also you'll want the metal frame glasses for this project as the "wrap" style glasses are much more contoured and the flip down lenses wont fit nice.

Edit: oh yeah, the ace shade 5 flipdowns run about $25 on ebay. I would do this with some Aura products but they're too damn expensive for me right now.

[richsantaclaus]

I can't believe you pay SO much for the equipment and glass and gas and want to go cheap on your own eyes - but you go and ruin your health and do not under ANY circumstances be safe!

[Leothwyn]

Personally, I like to use plain old didymium glasses and a welding shade on my torch, that way I can see everything on my bench fine, and just the flame area is shaded. If you're interested in going that route, I have some glasses I'll sell. I'd like to make it a good deal for you, but don't even know what they're worth... I don't want to throw a price out there and have it be ridiculously high or low. Anyone have an idea?
http://ci-studios.com/temp/IMG_4346.JPG

[The Lorax]

do glass fulltime and tell me diddies are all you need... come on guys, when ever it is a potential health risk DON'T TAKE SHORT CUTS!!!

[Leothwyn]

Did anyone in this thread recommend that? I think everyone is saying that he should use some sort of shade along with didymium.


do glass fulltime and tell me diddies are all you need... come on guys, when ever it is a potential health risk DON'T TAKE SHORT CUTS!!!

[kebira]

Personally, I like to use plain old didymium glasses and a welding shade on my torch, that way I can see everything on my bench fine, and just the flame area is shaded. If you're interested in going that route, I have some glasses I'll sell. I'd like to make it a good deal for you, but don't even know what they're worth... I don't want to throw a price out there and have it be ridiculously high or low. Anyone have an idea?
http://ci-studios.com/temp/IMG_4346.JPG

Just curious as to what you're saying. Do you wear didy's and then have a welding shade in front of the torch or are we talking about flip-downs with didy's? I think that's the point that's confusing people. It is me.

[kebira]

shit but me a pair of phillips and i'll send you my Aura Lenses, 286 split 3/5's.

That's not the first time I've read a similar comment on the Aura 286's, split 3/5. I have them and find them more annoying than I was hoping for.I'm constantly looking over the top , which negates any protection at times. Are comparable Phillips any better from the split lens perspective or do people find single shade, say a 4, easier to work with? I think it's the transition area of the split that gets me, not a transition on mine but deep grooves between the shades.

[Leothwyn]

Just curious as to what you're saying. Do you wear didy's and then have a welding shade in front of the torch or are we talking about flip-downs with didy's? I think that's the point that's confusing people. It is me.

Didn't mean to confuse anyone... I was referring to donaldo's post - A cheap solution for shade 5; until I can afford some good glasses, I am using a welding shield glass plate mounted onto my small torch. The size is 4.5" by 5.5". I bought two of them off e-bay shipped for under $10.

I've tried shaded glasses, and found it to be too dark when I'm looking at anything outside of the flame. And, I've tried split shade glasses - didn't like them. I like just having a shaded rectangle mounted just behind the flame. My flame work is shaded, I can see everything outside the flame fine, and there's no inconvenience of flipping something down or doing the split glasses thing.

[ornametalsmith]

I like just having a shaded rectangle mounted just behind the flame. My flame work is shaded, I can see everything outside the flame fine, and there's no inconvenience of flipping something down or doing the split glasses thing.

This has been my approach too. Just taped the #5 to the clear sheild.

[kebira]

Gotcha. Getto blast shield approach.
i'm thinking the same approach.

[donaldo]

Ya, I wear some didymiums and use the welding shade.

But doing before doing that I tried using magnets to attach a number 5 shade to the didys, so I could pull off the shade and actually see something.

[gotglass?]

well at least you have didy's instead of dollar store sunglasses....

[donaldo]

Big Lots. not dollar store, cuz that's how I roll.

[AVC-Ed]

We have been seeing some transition back to full coverage lenses, meaning that there have been more folks purchasing something like the AGW-250 Shade 5 instead of an AGW-286 3/5.

As far as the 'deep groove' between the split, kebira, are you having glare issues or is it the image shift that can occur when moving your eyes up and down?

[lucidvisions]

How the hell do you blow glass with no glasses? Makes me wonder what else you're skimping on. Seriously don't get on the torch again without glasses, PERIOD!

Josh

[Greymatter Glass]

Edmike: YOU HAVE OUTSTANDING ORDERS TO FILL.
GET OFF THE INTERNET.


If you can't fill the orders you have stop pushing product on people.

As of today I am no longer directing my customers to Aura Lens, or AVC, or whatever you wanna call yourself.

[Mac Maestro]

Halfway down the page are the glasses recommended for borosilicate work. 90 - 165 bux. Don't melt your eyes, man.

Phillips safety glasses @ Generations (http://www.generationsglass.com/Eye_Protection.html)

[richsantaclaus]

Edmike: YOU HAVE OUTSTANDING ORDERS TO FILL.
GET OFF THE INTERNET.


If you can't fill the orders you have stop pushing product on people.

As of today I am no longer directing my customers to Aura Lens, or AVC, or whatever you wanna call yourself.

I am wondering why you are on the web here and not making your own web site work better?

Just sayin'

[PyroChixRock]

Don't start slinging shit. But I'm wondering myself, Mike and ed...because we have gotten a handful of complaints lately and a couple requests that your advertising rights be removed. So tell me your side, what's up? Do you have people with outstanding orders? If so how late and do you plan to send them their products?

[Udai Hussien]

I am wondering why you are on the web here and not making your own web site work better?

Just sayin'
yeah but UMMM does doug have Unhappy customers he is neglecting for the internet? Just sayin...

[Sometime79]

Hell with glasses, eyes are for sissy's, and ventilation is for bitches with emphysema. You are pitiful until your blood flows with HEAVY METAL (literally).

[Izzy Spun]

I used nothing but snowboarding goggles for about six months when I first started...big mistake!!!! since then, I have suffered from chronic migraines, and my vision is nowhere what it used to be. I even managed to give my eyes a "welders burn" one night. GET GLASSES IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!





this has been a public service announcement paid for by the national alliance of don't be dumb like me.

[Aussie]

I use custom cut didymiums with welder shade flip downs fixed on the glasses. I can leave them up when I'm just doing clear work and for color I just flip down ... and they have the kind of hinge on them that will let me cover only the top 2/3rds of the didys or the whole lot flat. I've been using the same glasses for the last 20 years and my eyes are still 20/20.

[harpentuan]

Step away from the torch...

[jane clifton]

Glasses are a MUST. Unfortunately they are a pain in the ass too. I wear bifocals, so that means TWO pairs at a time. In the heat of summer there is nothing more uncomfortable. I guess I should get a prescription pair, but that's some real bucks!
But I guess a pain in the ass is better than a pain in the eyes!

Jane

[ACE]

people with disabilities can blow glass, people with lost limbs, or in wheelchairs. the deaf can blow glass, as can people without proper vocal chords. people with debilitating diseases, flesh eating bacteria rashes, etc.

but my friend, i have never seen a blind glassblower. so put on some proper fucking eyewear before you burn out your corneas altogether. this is not the place to be cheap or cut corners and the like. you NEED your eyes to continue blowing glass.

the end.

[matte eskuche]

seriously people. i never thought i would see anything like this issue.

another reason for a more proper education in glass before you develop poor habits. please people, do some research so when you pass on knowledge from one garage to another it's not detrimental to others.