Chinese Glass from Glasscraft?

[Groundjoints.com]

Just wondering if anyone has used any of this stuff.

How is it?

[Zed]

I've used the color tubing, it works the same as all the other color tubing from China. Cobalt and amber work the best.

[ALIEN!]

The chinese stuff I got from ABR was poop, clear was out of round, warpage, shocky, no good for honeycomb. Ok for prodo pipes, bout it. The black rod (7 lbs of it) all got shitcanned. Total junk. I got some of the 13mm cobalt off ebay, that stuff kicked ass aside from the line of extra thickness going through it. Ill buy the small color tube stuff again for small prodo, but never will buy any asian clear or black again EVER. Really, Simax is king, and really doesn't cost all that much more. I would assume the color you are looking at is OK, order a tube to start and see how you like it.

[mer]

i'm just assuming that they have the same stuff as winship, if so it's fine. wonky on the lathe but fine to work with by hand. it seems like all of the old issues have been corrected. never tried the stuff from abr.

[ALIEN!]

i'm just assuming that they have the same stuff as winship, if so it's fine. wonky on the lathe but fine to work with by hand. it seems like all of the old issues have been corrected. never tried the stuff from abr.

I can't imagine working china clear on a lathe. Its not consistent enough for goblets either ( at least not how I was taught to make them)

Like I said before though, your best bet is to get a sample first to see if it suits you. I bought a whole bunch, and was pissed as hell once it arrived and I discovered what quality it was. Ross at ABR talking it up like China's gift to mankind didn't help matters. Hindsight's 20/20 in my book, now I know what quality really is, and the price of Simax, NS, GA, Momka, etc. is worth it. Danky materials make danky art & products. Foreign ditch glass makes piles of broken rage at the bottom of your water bucket. You want a 4" slug of 44mm X 4mm ABR china clear on a schott blowtube PM me, ill send ya one for a couple bucks. I could hook up a slug of some china 13mm cobalt too from Trev's to try out. The cobalt was nice for the price, no cracking issues. Made some cool little pieces from it.

[byron3]

i'm just assuming that they have the same stuff as winship, if so it's fine. wonky on the lathe but fine to work with by hand. it seems like all of the old issues have been corrected. never tried the stuff from abr.

You are correct, Winship is the importer (by the container) and Glasscraft stocks directly from them. I have worked all the colors and for prodo spoons it worked fine. Black seems to be a bit shocky (but patience makes it possible to work), as has been the complaint with all blacks from the threads I have read on this forum.

Pink and purple have very little tint, hard to tell apart........ I noticed the pictures Ross post over at ABR shows his tubing has a much darker tint....... Can anyone verify this for me (Besides Ross)???

Yellow tubing strikea to the same color as the amber tubing just not as saturated.

Red tubing works nice just over struck for me, I garaged at 900 and then ramped to 1050, crashed the kiln after that. All my pieces overstruck, extremely dark strike and bands of liverish strike. GA has suggested striking their Ruby's to the color desired and removing from kiln to stop strike. I would think this defeats the purpose of annealing (the slow cooling part anyway). Not to threadjack but does anyone have any suggestions for that good looking translucent red strike with this tubing?? Or how to keep the yellow yellow??

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The glass I have gotten from Winship is the standard for what ALL chinese glass should be. It's been a few years since I have gotten anything that was a problem.

[Joe Blow]

It's chinese glass...... it's cheap........ I mean for prodo spoons it rocks... does just what it's supposed to do....melts down. If your gonna be on the lathe, it's definitely gonna give ya some probs, but you can make so much more money on the lathe that it's worth spending a little more to get Simmax or Kimble. If I'm gonna make art, I would definitely use first rate materials...... not dirty, shocky chinese. And the seems to roll in batches.... some tubes are great, others are total shit, but for the price..... they rock out the prodo. The BSA is a good alternative to the chinese..... less shocky, better tolerances, little cheaper than the other two.

~Just my 2 cents