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faded
09-24-2009, 01:50 PM
blowOUTS, not to be confused with blowINS. i say blowOUT and people automatically assume "sleeved in clear". this is NOT what it is. a blowOUT starts out as a solid dollop of clear. then color is shoved into the center of it. then it is put on a blow tube and blown OUT into a large thin bubble. then reduced down to the desire shape. is there anything we can do anything to clarify the confusion? :twitch:






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Belliott
09-24-2009, 02:01 PM
the stick and blow :devilish:

nodice
09-24-2009, 02:18 PM
Just don't tell em how it's made and there won't be any confusion.

ALIEN!
09-24-2009, 02:23 PM
blow job
wad blow
quadruple blown
gather puff
Idunno. Blow out makes sense to me i guess.

rabidgod
09-24-2009, 02:23 PM
what the hell is the point of this?
for folks who cant handle a puff n stuff?
i dont get why you would go to all that extra trouble.
2cents

Ben 'Spice' Crowley
09-24-2009, 02:25 PM
Id say stuff and puff but I believe it's used

Greymatter Glass
09-24-2009, 02:26 PM
I think a stuff-N-Puff is like snoodling, but with puffdanny.

FredLight
09-24-2009, 02:38 PM
Who's confused anyway?

Blow-out has the word "OUT", Blow-in has the word "IN".

IT ain't broke.

Glassroots
09-24-2009, 03:02 PM
I knew a kid that had an outy belly button in grade school. everyone made fun of him because it looked like a penis......... hope this helps

CripSkillz
09-24-2009, 03:08 PM
Basically blow out is a color sleeved in clear heheh ,the hard way.. ,

Oh ya and the extra trouble is well worth it when you mix the right colors you get insane effects.. . thats the only reason.. so some time it is a waste of time,.,.

Bo Diddles
09-24-2009, 03:58 PM
I haven't been confused when you say 'blow out', but I do agree that some people seem to think stuff & puff or blow in when you really mean blow out.
I don't know why this is - perhaps blow-ins are just way more common?

mistahead
09-24-2009, 04:26 PM
what about..who cares what people think tech?

menty666
09-25-2009, 05:52 AM
I say call it whatever as long as it doesn't fall in my lap and burn the goodies.

Bo Diddles
09-25-2009, 06:01 AM
^ Wow, it's funny you said that... that almost happened to me about fifteen minutes ago. One inch closer would've ruined my whole day.

Glassroots
09-25-2009, 02:31 PM
^ Wow, it's funny you said that... that almost happened to me about fifteen minutes ago. One inch closer would've ruined my whole day.

damn, only would have ruined your day?! I think I would be permanently scarred emotionally and physically.

faded
09-26-2009, 08:07 AM
Who's confused anyway?

Blow-out has the word "OUT", Blow-in has the word "IN".

IT ain't broke.

i have to explain it almost every time i use the term, and it's with fellow flame workers that i'm talking to. i see people on this forum that have been members for several years that do not understand the difference. i'm looking thru all my books and all they call it is "blowing a bulb on a tube".


i'm pretty sure blowOUTS are an old school technique. i remember as a kid we would get those balloon making kits in our stockings every christmas. it was small tubes of gooey colored rubber. you would squirt a little gallop on the end of the straw and blow. it would create a huge bubble if you did it right.

i've been training for this career all my life. :D


they had some called "triple K". :twitch: http://durhamregionbaby.com/wp-content/uploads/Products/balloon_blowing_kits.jpg

goldmanglass
09-26-2009, 09:31 PM
ga and ns used to make 1" rod of most of their colors and i had a friend who used to do blowouts pretty quickly with em. they were nice cause you never get those lines from stacking rods. hasnt worked too well for me but ive seen it done well...

faded
09-26-2009, 09:56 PM
i'm getting pretty fast at them. way faster than i myself could do doing a blowIN. i grab a clear rod, make a gather, stuff a mushroom of color into it, put a tube on it and blow. it takes minimal supplies and i can do one in a matter of minutes now. no trapped bubbles and the effects are awesome. :chilling:

Aymie
09-27-2009, 06:15 PM
I vote for "blowing your wad".

faded
01-06-2010, 02:44 PM
this is a 2 piece blow OUT using green exotic. after i blow it OUT i draw on clear 4mm rod and melt it all down again. ....




http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/7356/020im.jpg

hippi
01-06-2010, 02:57 PM
im lost.....what does the first pic look like when completly cooled? the pipe pic looks cool but i still dont get it lol....i got some research to do

NUBBLET
01-06-2010, 03:15 PM
double dollop

blob bubblin

faded
01-06-2010, 03:18 PM
im lost.....what does the first pic look like when completly cooled? the pipe pic looks cool but i still dont get it lol....i got some research to do



the first pic is of it BEFORE it is blown out. i kinda want to do a step-by-step tutorial but i paid for the lesson from a member here and i'm not sure of the etiquette on something like that. i would be more than happy to take step-by-step pics of my next one. maybe i should pm Mr wizzard first. :chilling:


all my pics are on my old comp. i'll see what i can do to clarify all this. :chilling:

JDeMoss
01-06-2010, 03:23 PM
I used to do these with exp Green #5.....killer effects.
I vote for "Blowtard".

MUPH
01-06-2010, 07:39 PM
Skeetwad

faded
01-06-2010, 10:47 PM
these are all great names, keep them coming. :)

Bryan
01-06-2010, 10:50 PM
i have a question why do you jam color in the clear and then attach blow tube...why not gather the color on the blow tube then jam that into the clear...i have not done this particular tech so i dunno just asking :)

faded
01-06-2010, 11:05 PM
i have a question why do you jam color in the clear and then attach blow tube...why not gather the color on the blow tube then jam that into the clear...i have not done this particular tech so i dunno just asking :)


you need a hollow cup inside the glob. if you jam the color into clear attached to a blow tube the color will collapse and distort. i assume. also when i push the color in i use a heavy oxygenated flame and spin and swirl it as i shove it in. with the striking colors it has a really cool effect.

i will be seeing Mr Wizzard this weekend. if he gives me the Ok i will do a full tutorial when i get back.


http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4172/004jp.jpg

NUBBLET
01-06-2010, 11:31 PM
stump puff

faded
01-06-2010, 11:54 PM
stump puff

i think we just got our winner. :kickflip:

stump puff it is.

WORLD FAMOUS
01-07-2010, 12:12 PM
When you blow the ass end out of a blow-out, it's called a blow-thru.

faded
01-07-2010, 12:25 PM
When you blow the ass end out of a blow-out, it's called a blow-thru.


or, ... "the first section".

:D

Lub
01-07-2010, 12:49 PM
I remember someone talking about this and i had no clue what they meant. It mostly makes sense now, I've just never done it. So the point isn't to stick a cold gather of color into clear so you don't have to touch it with the flame, but rather it's quick and gets dope effects? Your basically trying to blowout a marble but the color folds under itself and you get some trippy 2 layer shit? I'll definitely try it tonight, i just wouldn't mind a few pointers first

faded
01-07-2010, 02:02 PM
i've done it this way before, ...

i made a big flat disc out of clear. puntied up to one side. drawn different colors on the other side working from the center out and making sure it's all solid and filled in. you can simply do an outward spiral or patterns or whatever. kinda like your going to do a flower implosion but fill it all in. leave a little ring of clear around the outer edge.

melt it all in and then heat it so it flips. don't implode it. just melt it all in real quick and roll the edges. i hold mine vertical in the flame and simply let it drop. it will fold down and start to close up. let it close up to the size of your blow tube. i flare my tube and gather it up to beef it up a little. attach the blow tube while it's all hot.

pop the punty off the back end and blow it OUT until it's as thin as you can get it. then you can dot it with clear or do as i do and draw on a bunch of 4mm clear. then reduce it back down into your desired shape.


now get out there and post pics when you finish. :bouncy:



you know when you are doing a flower implosion and you get that small deep hole that sucks up into the center of your color? next time you get that, shove a blow tube onto it and blow it OUT.

ta da


all credit goes to Mr Wizzard.

cc_bob
01-07-2010, 05:36 PM
Nice post, and great explanation. I'd rep you but I gotta spread the love..

newmexicomagma
01-08-2010, 04:45 PM
Puff balls. Nice effect.

newmexicomagma
01-09-2010, 07:29 PM
I slept. On it and think I figured out a good name. The shart.

Lub
01-20-2010, 01:07 PM
bump, this tech rules. I spiraled some mystery and trip passion together, stuffed it, blew it out, and got some insane colors never seen by my eyes before. And anyone think to try it for cobalt over white? Fat ball of cobalt on top of fat ball of white, stick blue into clear first, blowtube to the white, and blow the white into/through the cobalt. Haven't tried yet, but want to. Thanks mr wizzard and faded

The Lorax
01-20-2010, 01:25 PM
i use blowouts for glow tubing and white bstix tubing... works nice.

Lub
01-20-2010, 09:33 PM
how much are you guys able to produce at a time, and how big of a blowtube you use? I'm gathering 16 mm into about golfball size, then gathering my color rod to about 10mm or so. do you try to get the clear as soupy as possible before stuffing the color in? I never get the color to go all the way in like a mushroom pendant. and lastly, how many heatings and puffings does it take you guys to get it to a even thickness? I feel like theres a better way

raven sun
01-21-2010, 12:36 PM
the fastest way would be to use a crucible kiln with clear in it, coil up some color and dip...you can do a larger piece that way also...

wieseatron
01-21-2010, 04:42 PM
I sometimes have better/easier just attaching the the blob to the blow tube without creating a pocket because i have had issues with the seal. But I can see how creating the pocket should help.
It takes me a little while to get it a uniform thickness because one side always seams to be thinner. But I just keep spinning it and puffing it up.

Also, I wanted to say thanks for being introduced to this tech because I was kind of getting into a rut with the few things I was focusing on
The one in the picture is a combination of english ivy and blue moon.

GlassFreak
01-21-2010, 06:13 PM
i guess i only ever knew about blow ins, or sleeving.

Eric S
01-22-2010, 12:25 PM
i mostly do blowins because you get way more tube and they're fast, but the blowouts advantage is that you can get the colors in there without touching the flame much at all, and you can easily layer multiple colors.

Lub
01-22-2010, 01:53 PM
i did blowouts all night last night. Dope stuff. Really like the looks of twisting two strikers together, then coiling them into a ball, then stuffing that into clear. you get trippy boxes of color if you coil evenly