View Full Version : hippi's progression thread!!!
hippi
01-18-2010, 06:08 PM
hey guys hows it going.. well i finally got my torch fired up and im hooked...this is gonna be my progression thread and ill try to keep updating daily well here we go day 1
monday january 18th 2010
heres the very first piece...i was going for a pendant but i got messy lol
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/firstpiece.jpg
then i pulled this cane
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/cane.jpg
and used that can in this..again was spose to be a pendant but i didnt put a loop
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/deeley.jpg
then i tried this style of can
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/cane2.jpg
and pulled some more..did a rasta one but didnt twist tight enough
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/cane3.jpg
used the rasta cane in this
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/earring2.jpg
this is the glass from the picture above.. if it was a lil bigger and deeper itd work perfect..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/earring.jpg
then i had to try a shroomie!! gonna try a jelly fish next
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/shroomie.jpg
and heres a group shot..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/group.jpg
and last but not least me learning haha
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/untitled-1.jpg
stay tuned guys more to come! i think ill try and melt some tube tomorrow
thanks for lookin! i know its crappy but ill get better i promise haha.. sorry for the pooy cell pix.. ill try and sneek away with my wifes digi lol..
peace out
Ben 'Spice' Crowley
01-18-2010, 06:14 PM
man brings me back, keep practicing, practicing practicing and did I say practicing lol
Slimy-E
01-18-2010, 06:31 PM
im glad your posting. been following your threads since set up!
Bo Diddles
01-18-2010, 06:34 PM
Hey, that's pretty good lookin' cane for your first couple of pulls!
Listen to Crowley ^ about the practicing... he knows stuff about things.
Ben 'Spice' Crowley
01-18-2010, 06:38 PM
I resent that statement Lol, I do not know stuff about anything thank you very much, I do however know that I have been very safe today :chilling::chilling:
Not a bad first day man keep it up.
hippi
01-18-2010, 06:49 PM
thanks guys! this site is defently a lot is insperation.. might try to mess with some tube tonight...maybe try and pull a point and lay some color.. maybe try some wigwags on some 9.5 hvy wall i got.. well we will see.. more pix to come tonight!
berning
01-18-2010, 07:06 PM
that makes me smile. congrats. nice attempt on the plug. i find making them a little longer and pulling them into horns is a little easier. maybe that's just me. if i can pull myself away from the torch i'll post some pics of some of my stuff in my gallery later. HELL YA!!! FLAME ON!!! . and now that i'm thinkin about it . you posted about pokers the other day. i have a little screw extractor mounted into the end of a wooden dowel. i use it as a poker/rake .i also use it to round out loops on pendants. i have a slightly larger extractor in the other end of of the dowel for ornaments and other things that need a slightly larger loop. they also work well for rounding out carb holes and such.
hippi
01-18-2010, 08:01 PM
that makes me smile. congrats. nice attempt on the plug. i find making them a little longer and pulling them into horns is a little easier. maybe that's just me. if i can pull myself away from the torch i'll post some pics of some of my stuff in my gallery later. HELL YA!!! FLAME ON!!! . and now that i'm thinkin about it . you posted about pokers the other day. i have a little screw extractor mounted into the end of a wooden dowel. i use it as a poker/rake .i also use it to round out loops on pendants. i have a slightly larger extractor in the other end of of the dowel for ornaments and other things that need a slightly larger loop. they also work well for rounding out carb holes and such.
cool! well.....pulling a point was a disaster haha... well not quite but when i went to pull it the tube the would become the blow tube shrank to about 1/4" with 2" of pull lol maybe because the tube is only 26mm? is there another way or do i just gotta heat up more surface space?..
got 2 more pendants made one spiral implosion and the other was spose to be another shroomie but the damn stringer snapped on me....pretty scary lol.. pix after there cool in the blanket lol
Ben 'Spice' Crowley
01-18-2010, 08:05 PM
pulling a point on 26 mm Heavy (which i do actually know something about lol) Condense it to like one and a third the original thickness and then pull out of the flame still rotating and gently pulling to get it nice and centered and when it's a little cooler, hold one end veritcal and guide the other end down with two fingers or a whole had whatever you prefer
I average a 7mm point with 2-3 mm walls
hippi
01-18-2010, 08:10 PM
pulling a point on 26 mm Heavy (which i do actually know something about lol) Condense it to like one and a third the original thickness and then pull out of the flame still rotating and gently pulling to get it nice and centered and when it's a little cooler, hold one end veritcal and guide the other end down with two fingers or a whole had whatever you prefer
I average a 7mm point with 2-3 mm walls
maybe thats my problem...the tube is med wall i think maybe reg wall gotta double check..well time to go try again...and again....and agian lol
Ben 'Spice' Crowley
01-18-2010, 08:40 PM
just condense it real good before you pull it (like maybe twice the thickness if its medium and thrice the thickness if its standard)
hippi
01-18-2010, 08:52 PM
just condense it real good before you pull it (like maybe twice the thickness if its medium and thrice the thickness if its standard)
cool ill try that next time... well i managed a point but i kinda cheated... i closed one open end of the tube and attached a 9.5mm blowtube then flame cut the other side...came out pretty good i think..its a lil messed up where the blow tube meets the point but it should work..now i know bigger the tube dia. the thicker the wall i should get...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/point.jpg
now what to do with it lol.....
TheGlassTree
01-18-2010, 09:14 PM
nice work but thats not a point... its a section attached to a blowtube... a point is a pulled handled from the original tube.... Keep it up! blowtube attachments are more effective as handles than points...they are less likely to break in your hand giving you glass splinters
RamblezMarblez
01-18-2010, 09:31 PM
Your rasta cane can always be tighter if your spinning the cane as you lay down the color. Just don't spin the wrong way or you'll unwind it. I always pull points and consider blowtubes kinda bulky. Once you get the hang of pulling points with strong handles, you can pull 2 at one time. I use blowtubes when I'm switching the axis 90*. Hoops are easy if you can make a swan. I try to wear my hat backwards so no fumes can hang around under the brim. I use to have MASSIVE headaches in the middle of the night after working NS exotics with my hat on. Sometimes I hover too close to the flame.....Slick
Ben 'Spice' Crowley
01-18-2010, 09:49 PM
snd sayind blow tubes are mor efficient than points isn't really a great statement as many gretas never use more than points and you are less likely to have a cracked piece due to a janky seal at the blowtube
neither is better, they both have specific applications and work well in the right hands
hippi
01-18-2010, 10:02 PM
Your rasta cane can always be tighter if your spinning the cane as you lay down the color. Just don't spin the wrong way or you'll unwind it. I always pull points and consider blowtubes kinda bulky. Once you get the hang of pulling points with strong handles, you can pull 2 at one time. I use blowtubes when I'm switching the axis 90*. Hoops are easy if you can make a swan. I try to wear my hat backwards so no fumes can hang around under the brim. I use to have MASSIVE headaches in the middle of the night after working NS exotics with my hat on. Sometimes I hover too close to the flame.....Slick
thanks for that tip! and ya i think i twisted the wrong way with the rasta but it still works lol..
neither is better, they both have specific applications and work well in the right hands
word
TheGlassTree
01-18-2010, 10:21 PM
i agree with sideshow i use both all the time but when i first started my points were too thin and many of them broke under pressure leaving me with glass splinters...personally i am pretty much 50/50 point puller blowtube user same with the blow hose about 50/50 depends on what im making...
The Madhatter
01-18-2010, 11:01 PM
Hippi - It'll get easier as you go. Try taking a full length of tubing, score and break it in half, then take one of those halves and heat it up in the middle. When it gets nice and soupy, condensed a little, take it from the flame and let it cool for a couple of seconds(spinning the whole time till you actually do the pulling) When it cools a little, hold it up and down and let go with your bottom hand and if it can just hang there it's ready to pull. Pull straight down, slow at first, then harder till it stops moving. If your diameter is getting small stop pulling, you can even blow on it in the middle to cool it down a little. ***This is just what I do, it works for me, lots of people do it different ways - maybe they'll chime in and you can try several until you find one that works for you.
Pull, pull, pull.... Pull Points on an entire tube. Make your prep work for the day (or a couple of days). By the time you get to the end you'll have a couple of good ones, and by the time you've finished your first case you'll be able to do it in your sleep. You'll still need to attach blow tubes to the ends, but you'll get a LOT of point pulling practice.
If you have any questions, I'd be happy to help ya figure things out - PM me.
Laters,
~Mike
Campy
01-18-2010, 11:17 PM
Nice Start Brotha!
hippi
01-18-2010, 11:40 PM
cool thanks for all the advice guys! im havin fun with these lil shroom pendants! i was shaping a pipe out of the lil section i had...was going good untill the blow tubes weld cracked and got a hole..tried to fix and i made it worse lol but now i know what not to do for next time..heres a lil pic of the best lil pendant so far...might even wear this one lol..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/shroom2.jpg
Dglassman
01-19-2010, 01:22 AM
cool man i still cant get those things right all the time. good start and keep burning
Dglassman
01-19-2010, 01:23 AM
almost forgot when you make the loops and touch the glass flame cut and use another rod to wipe off excess and smooth connection. D
hippi
01-19-2010, 12:02 PM
almost forgot when you make the loops and touch the glass flame cut and use another rod to wipe off excess and smooth connection. D
good deal ive been trying to wipe off excess with a 5 or 3mm rod...sometimes it works other times it gets messy lol but im learning trying to use as many tools as i can to get the hang of things... i think i might try a likl chillium or small spoon but i really want to get pendants down.. i think i might need a marble mold to get them shaped good..so far i keep getting a tear drop shape over a circle dome shape...
also a cold seal puntie? does the puntie have to be hotter then the piece or is it the other way around?
Ben 'Spice' Crowley
01-19-2010, 12:07 PM
punty is hotter or the other way around, it's just a temporary seal that isn't solid
NUBBLET
01-19-2010, 02:03 PM
I find punties work better and leave a cleaner mark if the piece to punty up to is just shy of glowing or right at the lowest glow and the punty rod get nice and hot then pull it out and blow on it just a smidge , this will cause a skin and keep the glass attached but separate .
Kinda as if you give the glass memory as to which piece it belongs to .
Oh and by the way I like the punty rod hotter , because the other way around gives more chance to disort shape of the work .
berning
01-19-2010, 05:25 PM
good deal ive been trying to wipe off excess with a 5 or 3mm rod...sometimes it works other times it gets messy lol but im learning trying to use as many tools as i can to get the hang of things... i think i might try a likl chillium or small spoon but i really want to get pendants down.. i think i might need a marble mold to get them shaped good..so far i keep getting a tear drop shape over a circle dome shape...
also a cold seal puntie? does the puntie have to be hotter then the piece or is it the other way around?
you don't "need" a marble mold. heat and gravity......your best friend/worst enemy. i think i know how to use the mold now , at first it just screwed me up. this guy was givin me shit for using it , so i started working on getting a round marble with out the mold. now when i make a marble it's "round" before i ever use a mold. the mold just takes it from "round" to round. and as far as cold seals i nubbblet is dead on ...........in my opinion.
hippi
01-19-2010, 10:16 PM
thanks for all the advice guys! well today i didnt get to get much done.. i attempted a lil wigwag tear drop pendant..it kinda worked im having trouble melting in all the lines before my punty accadently almost melts off or almost falls off...maybe color lines are to thick...the WIG and WAG part.. i dont think i used a small enough flame but i just ended up twisting half of it one way and the other half the other way..pulled it out a lil then condenced back to a tear drop shape.. and well i only got 2 of those done today..in the morning my mom woke me up saying she fell and heard her sholder pop and she felt dizzy...took her to the emergency room and she broke her collar bone...so i been takin care of her and my boy while my wife was at work....tomorrow should be a good day..i think tomorrow will consist of tube implosions i got a vid off youtube that shows a couple different tube implosions that seem pretty cool like a sea shell wrap and rake, a "cedar rose" and some other one that i cant remember... im a lil iffy on trying fuming id really like to try some kind of honeycomb..
2 questions though...when i rake the wrap i rake with a clear rod right? and do honeycombs have to be done with fume?
thanks
Slimy-E
01-19-2010, 10:32 PM
i do honey combs with many colors. blowing out the color really thin, then anding clear dots then shrinking back down. cool with multi color colors. and normaly i rake with clear, but it can be fun to rake with color sometimes too
hippi
01-19-2010, 10:46 PM
i do honey combs with many colors. blowing out the color really thin, then anding clear dots then shrinking back down. cool with multi color colors. and normaly i rake with clear, but it can be fun to rake with color sometimes too
awesome! thanks for that answer! looks like ill be trying that tomorrow as well.. ill be getting the complemtntay lampworking books this week to! cant wait...
thanks!
ill post pix tomorrow
Devils Defect
01-19-2010, 11:18 PM
Lookin good man! Also with those cold seal punties, just try not to melt them in because then stuff can get bad. haha.
hippi
01-19-2010, 11:41 PM
thanks dude! lol i know about the gettin bad part lol pullin points is kickin my ass right now..i should of bought all hvy wall tube.. i dont know why but 26mm is the biggest tube size i ordered and for some reason i got standard wall i have 16 and 20 hvy wall maybe those will be easier.. ..i wish i would of got 32mm or a lil bigger...proly make it easier to pull points and to make dishes and what not..oh and i finally got a chair in my studio lol pretty excited about that haha
berning
01-20-2010, 07:04 AM
when i wrap and rake i use both both clear and color for the rake. the white and blue horns i posted the other day were raked with clear. i also like to alternate the direction of the rake.
dankbudz
01-20-2010, 10:29 AM
Hey hippi...glad to see you got everything going! I'll have all my stuff set up in about a week or two :mj:. Is it as rewarding as you were expecting? Did you get a kiln?
TheGlassTree
01-20-2010, 12:36 PM
when i do my honeycombs i use a 16 mil tube medium wall. Blow a bubble at the end of the tube and dump some frit down the tube into the bubble. Then while pointing the bubble down at an angle slowly melt the frit in condennsing the bubble a little bit. Then blow the bubble back out nice and even and pretty thin. Afer that i lay my dots down with a 3 or 4 mil clear rod starting with the center dot and six dots around that, and six more a little bigger around that, and then six more a little bigger around that. You should have the whole front half of the bubble covered in dots at that time. Starting with just the front of the bubble slowly melt those dots in, and as the bubble starts to condense at the front softly puff it back out..keeping repeating until all the dots are meted in. Then just condense the bubble all the way down and puny to the tip and rip the solid honeycomb mass of the blowtube. Finally clean up the back and layer the back with a solid dark color, I like to use onyx myself.....throw a loop on it for a pendant or build up a backing for a marble...
mouseclone
01-20-2010, 12:52 PM
That is cool. I know I have a good long way to go... Looks good. thanks for the heads up on the tech.
dorkeedude
01-20-2010, 02:08 PM
Yeah, thanks for the heads up on the tech.
hippi
01-20-2010, 03:05 PM
Hey hippi...glad to see you got everything going! I'll have all my stuff set up in about a week or two :mj:. Is it as rewarding as you were expecting? Did you get a kiln?
its more rewarding then i was expecting! its defently cool as hell when you see your self getting better and better...i can bust a shroom pendant like no tomorrow now hahah... no i dont have a kiln yet..so far the fiber blanket is keeping my pendants and glass blobs from cracking...havent tried hollow stuff yet so idk how that will play out with the blanket..defently gonna need a kiln but for now while learning the blanket works
when i do my honeycombs i use a 16 mil tube medium wall. Blow a bubble at the end of the tube and dump some frit down the tube into the bubble. Then while pointing the bubble down at an angle slowly melt the frit in condennsing the bubble a little bit. Then blow the bubble back out nice and even and pretty thin. Afer that i lay my dots down with a 3 or 4 mil clear rod starting with the center dot and six dots around that, and six more a little bigger around that, and then six more a little bigger around that. You should have the whole front half of the bubble covered in dots at that time. Starting with just the front of the bubble slowly melt those dots in, and as the bubble starts to condense at the front softly puff it back out..keeping repeating until all the dots are meted in. Then just condense the bubble all the way down and puny to the tip and rip the solid honeycomb mass of the blowtube. Finally clean up the back and layer the back with a solid dark color, I like to use onyx myself.....throw a loop on it for a pendant or build up a backing for a marble...
awesome dude!! thanks for that! why do some people add dots on top of the dots? does it create more depth...
i tried a honeycomb this morning...but my noob ass condenced the whole thing instead of backing it...now its a blob lol can see a few honeycomb dots when put in the light haha... im gonna try you way after i grub and have a safty break....
o ya and im starting to get some bubbles in the tear drop pendants...how does one avoid the air bubbles?
Genone
01-20-2010, 03:56 PM
Looking good, keep up the work, I'm just starting too but this site has so much useful info, now I just need to absorb it like a sponge...
Devils Defect
01-20-2010, 04:08 PM
What kind of bubbles? Like over heating the color bubbles or trapping air inside of the pendant? If its the trapping air in the glass, you probally just need more heat before stickin the stringer inside of the glass
Genone
01-20-2010, 04:55 PM
If your talking about air in a mushie pendant, heat after pushing the stringer and a make sure to spin the gather, so the clear flows over the rest of the stinger and makes it all clear (mushie is all the way in side the clear no mush stem at the bottom), continue to do this as it will get the air out of the clear...
hippi
01-20-2010, 05:19 PM
hey guys hows it going... just a lil update while im takin a safty break..been practicing pulling points this morning on 26mm standard wall tube..i got one that came out but the handles were to thin and scary to try and work with.. but i got one that im proud of and ill actually be able to put to some use!!! the point is a lil longer then i wanted but that gives me room when i mess up...i did try a pipe and everything went awesome pushed the bowl blew out the carb and pulled off the blow tube...but trying to pop open the mouth piece ened up making the pipe get shorter and shorter until it was like 1.5" long lol...maybe ill make it into a pendant since its not functional...lol
well heres my point that i pulled! im surprised how straight i got it! i find that holding the tube horizontal when pulling works best for me...i tried to do the vertical pull and it ended up crooked every time...when i pulled it horizontal both ends were pretty center!
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/firstpoint.jpg
hippi
01-20-2010, 05:21 PM
well i started gettin some bubbles when making a gather on some 12mm rod.. a bunch of little bubbles
Devils Defect
01-20-2010, 05:24 PM
Those are from over heating the glass. Also, you want a longer point because the heat is gonna burn the crap outta yer hand. lol
JPlank
01-20-2010, 05:26 PM
^ Clean your rods with windex. The bubbles are just dust/ dirt thats accumulated on your glass by leaving it sitting out.
hippi
01-20-2010, 05:29 PM
Those are from over heating the glass. Also, you want a longer point because the heat is gonna burn the crap outta yer hand. lol
ya maybe im putting the rod to close to the torch...lol ya i found out whats hot and whats not real fast lol!
^ Clean your rods with windex. The bubbles are just dust/ dirt thats accumulated on your glass by leaving it sitting out.
ahh makes sence..i will defently do that from now on
glassdocnc
01-20-2010, 05:38 PM
I use alcohol
that came out wrong, I clean my glass rods with alcohol
hippi
01-20-2010, 05:50 PM
damn...just killed my tank...man good thing this oxygen stuff is only 20$... killed that tank in 3 days....
hippi
01-20-2010, 10:01 PM
well heres some other pix..another shroom pendant it got a lot of lil bubbles in it i think the two tone is cool..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/2toneshroom.jpg
and heres another attempt at a wig wag tear drop pendant..it came out pretty good i think... the only problem ive been having is that i get a clear spot on the bottom of the tear drop..im guessing i have to either put a dab of color of the top of rod before layin color or make the tip of the rod a cone and draw lines from the tip? well heres the pic
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/pendant.jpg
thanks for lookin guys!
Devils Defect
01-20-2010, 10:15 PM
You could just pull some of the color down when you are almost done with the pendant. You would lose a little size in the pendant but would get color all the way down. Are you not drawling lines all the way to the tip of the rod you are using? If not then that should fix the problem. When you get a chance to mess around again try and rod implosion they are fun and you can get lots of crazy effects. Lookin good tho
hippi
01-20-2010, 10:33 PM
You could just pull some of the color down when you are almost done with the pendant. You would lose a little size in the pendant but would get color all the way down. Are you not drawling lines all the way to the tip of the rod you are using? If not then that should fix the problem. When you get a chance to mess around again try and rod implosion they are fun and you can get lots of crazy effects. Lookin good tho
i put lines all the way to the top but the flat spot on the top of the rod..the cut part is where the clear bottom comes from.. i tried 1 or 2 rod implosions but just layed down a couple circles then imploded..ended up lookin like a colorful mountain inside the glass..i proly need to make a bigger maria to make it easier to draw onto..
thanks! ill keep on tryin over and over haha..pickin up more oxy in the morning..i really need to get a extra tank cause when it ran out i was in the middle of melting...
unless you are pulling a point with handles on both sides of it, you dont have to worry about the point being straight on both sides. I like to keep my eyes on the shoulder of what would be the next point and when im stretching out the handle i keep my eyes there to make sure its pull evenly from all sides. you have to keep it spinning the whole time at the same speed in both hands until if firms up all the way. so if i was holding the tube in my right hand and the point attched to the tube in the left, i would keep my eyes on where the new shoulder is going to be on the tube. (i hope that makes sense) and since the side im not worried about is the tip of the point that i just pulled off you just flame cut it off and clean it up or flare it out or garage it etc....
Devils Defect
01-20-2010, 10:44 PM
Just melt one of your 12mill rods into this shape at the top ||||||||) then draw your lines from the top of the rounded rod. The Termination of the color is the hard part. Try and get nice sharp lines.
berning
01-21-2010, 08:38 AM
Just melt one of your 12mill rods into this shape at the top ||||||||) then draw your lines from the top of the rounded rod. The Termination of the color is the hard part. Try and get nice sharp lines.
yep . start with a cone/dome instead of a flat end. i end up pullling a little color off of the end of everything to get a nice termination point. at first i felt like i was wasting glass. it's not wasting anything if that's what needs to be done for your piece to look nice.
dankbudz
01-21-2010, 09:15 AM
what size oxygen tank are you running right now?
hippi
01-21-2010, 11:06 AM
i was told it was a 240....theres a sticker on it that says 282scf
hippi
01-21-2010, 09:04 PM
did my first flower implosion ill post some pix when it cools!
hippi
01-21-2010, 11:01 PM
heres some pix
a green shroom pendant i did from a friend
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/greenshroom.jpg
heres my first flower implosion.. i think i didnt implode it enough though..also its a egg shape lol i proly should of gathered the tip up a lil bit but i was afraid it would mess up the implosion..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/1stflowerimplosion.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/1stflowerimplosion2.jpg
i also did another ear ring test..came out ok better then the first..ill post a pic when it cools as well as i a octopus sclupture i did... ill post those pix in a few
ModderXtr
01-21-2010, 11:22 PM
Hell yeah hippi, keep it up! Glad to see you're messin with color so soon, Im having so much trouble with just clear heh
I wanna see the octopus lol
hippi
01-21-2010, 11:44 PM
Hell yeah hippi, keep it up! Glad to see you're messin with color so soon, Im having so much trouble with just clear heh
I wanna see the octopus lol
thanks dude..ya i bought color sample packs from GA and momka.. i try to pull stringers so save as much color as i can but its fun meltin big color on to rod lol
heres the octopus...it was perfect till i tried to remove the rod..accidently melted some of the legs together..next time ill shape the head and pull the rod skinner so its easier to pull off later..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/octopus.jpg
and heres the ear ring im workin on... i got the shape and sizr down just gotta place the shroom in better next time...proly make ear rings with jelly fishes in the to
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/shroomearring.jpg
thanks for lookin guys!
hippi
01-22-2010, 10:27 AM
what would happend if i made another one of these
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/1stflowerimplosion.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/1stflowerimplosion2.jpg
and flattened it out like a pendant..would it distort the flower?
well back to the torch
hippi
01-22-2010, 08:23 PM
heres a few more lil do-dads i did for some friends and myself.. there lil dabbers for concentrates..i tested it with my Ti Bell and it worked beautifully.. i thought the heat from the Ti pad would crack it since i cant anneal right now but it didnt crack or anything... added a lil mushie on top for looks proly do a few with jellyfishes on top to..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/shroomhash2.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/hashrod.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/shroomhash.jpg
oh and i love GA colors!!! i tripped out when indigo luster turned a bunch of different colors! man i wish the sample packs came with 2 of every color!
thanks for lookin!
hippi
01-22-2010, 08:50 PM
oops forgot to add this one to.... on this pendant i layed the lines then incased in clear...i really like the effect you get when incased.. kinda a 3D look or gives depth..well here it is..nothin special but its better then the last lol
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/incasedrastapendant.jpg
ModderXtr
01-23-2010, 02:10 AM
That rasta pendant is sweet
how hard was it to install that fan like that? do you have any ducting or do you just leave the garage door open and the fan blows everything out there?
hippi
01-23-2010, 10:47 AM
That rasta pendant is sweet
how hard was it to install that fan like that? do you have any ducting or do you just leave the garage door open and the fan blows everything out there?
thanks dude... ya the fan wasnt hard at all to mount..i just layed the fan on the wood, traced a outline then cut out and shoved it in lol i still need to bolt it to the wood just to be safe but its in there pretty good..wiring it up was easy to...just 2 wires. i dont have ducting yet.. i just leave the garage door open, the only real reason i want some duting is so at night i dont have to leave the garage door all the way open...gets a lil cold lol
i dont think you are supposed to duct those kinda of fans...
hippi
01-23-2010, 11:17 AM
i dont think you are supposed to duct those kinda of fans...
i dont think so either... i just wanted to get like 5 ft of ducting so i can close the garage half way when it gets to cold...otherwise i like it without the ducting
hippi
01-23-2010, 05:29 PM
well i did my first jar today, tried fuming for the first time to! the jar is a lil small but im happy with it, it was bigger but i think i just condensed it to much when tryin to melt in the lines .. the fuming turned out good considering i didnt know what i was doing but it stuck on so i must of done it right lol... i kinda burned off the middle section of the fume on accident and some lines were really thick and kinda hard to melt in..im sure i could of gotten them all the way melted but i didnt want to mess up the shape to much so i figured id stop while im ahead haha and do it better next time..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/glassjar.jpg
looks like ur having fun thanks for all the updates, peace,jes
hippi
01-23-2010, 06:09 PM
looks like ur having fun thanks for all the updates, peace,jes
thanks jes! im defently having a lot of fun melting glass! im getting more comfertable with tube to so hopefully i can start making some more things with function.. you a big insparation i like how your always thinking out side the box, like your insence burners, chess set, and the beer tap handles are all awesome!
thanks for lookin
hippi
01-23-2010, 06:18 PM
almost forgot heres a lil pendant i tried...tried to put some writing in it..but my zero, when imploded it closed up lol..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/420pendant.jpg
when you condense something you usually condense it more than you want to and then puff it out to desired size and shape. by condensing it way down you allow the lines or dots or whatever you applied to melt down into the same plane. that makes for a smooth inside and out taking most the stress out of the glass...
hippi
01-24-2010, 01:29 PM
man im havin a off day today...somehow i keep messin the littlest things up... like pullin a point and start workin it only to remember i forgot to pull the stringers i needed..also i must of gotten lucky with fuming yesterday cause today it seems like like its not sticking..
well back to the torch to try and get something out...
Devils Defect
01-24-2010, 01:41 PM
make sure your piece is well heated before fuming. Took me awhile to get the fuming down on my Lynx. Also everyone has an off day. :D
hippi
01-24-2010, 03:50 PM
make sure your piece is well heated before fuming. Took me awhile to get the fuming down on my Lynx. Also everyone has an off day. :D
ahhhh... i see..lol ya that was defently the prob..when i fumed the jar it was pretty much molten or really close to... ill get the piece hot as hell next time thanks for that tip! i was able to finish a few things so far i attempted another jar and another implosion pendant but i dont think the fumed backing stuck to it to well..next time ill just gather up some color and stick it to it..seemed to work on the first one... i also tried another pipe but popped my bowl hole to big..it still would of worked but i screwed up the mouth piece again lol...
well back to the torch
TheGlassTree
01-24-2010, 05:26 PM
some say hot some say not...I can fume onto a piece of cold tubing just as well as hot...when you do fume onto a hot tube though you dont want the piece to be near molten take it to a light glow then let it cool back to the point just when its no longing glowing and apply your fume..
Devils Defect
01-24-2010, 06:48 PM
....I should really read the post before mine. About the bowl hole being to big. It will shrink back down to a nice size, I blow mine almost 2x the size I want it to be then it shrinks itself Just make sure to heat around the entire bowl evenly before you push it. Trust me this helps a LOT and will save you ruining a nice piece otherwise.
hippi
01-24-2010, 07:55 PM
thanks for all the advice guys! well i pretty much had the torch raging all day proly like 6 hrs total.. lots of mess ups but thats a part of learning right..
well heres my first pipe lol you can laugh if you want to :D i pushed the bowl a lil to far and i think the glass might not of been hot enough cause it has a sand blasted look but its cool..i was able to get the mouth piece open this time so i called it a good turn out.. its a lil wider then a normal chillum cause i used
26mm standard wall
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/100_1835.jpg
this was a mess up but i like the color in it so ill post it
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/100_1841.jpg
another lil concentrate jar
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/100_1840.jpg
and heres a pendant i did for my wife... it came out good i think but i might of used the wrong side..i think i was spose to condence then implode a lil more but it looks good and my wife liked it.. i use a light pink,disco sparkle and some bible blue or something like that...colors from GA
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/100_1836.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/100_1838.jpg
and heres a lil group shot of SOME of the stuff ive tried to make that i can deem usable lol
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/100_1833.jpg
well more to come tomorrow! maybe ill try another pipe later....i keep finding these stupid lil glass slpinters in my hands,fingers, and arms...guess that mean i need to clean shop lol..
WOW! sorry for the big pix...i used my ladys digi, was usin my cell before.. didnt know pix would be that big
hippi
01-25-2010, 12:15 AM
now in the pendant pic above i think i did the termination wrong that clear dot in the center is where rod was attached..what i did is get a 12mm rod, layed my lines and incased in clear..puntied up, melted in and did a wig and a wag..took puntie off and condenced into a ball then flatted to a maria..and backed the pendant.. i think i was spose to implode it after i condenced it though.. and it would of flipped the face of the pendant to the other side so when i flame cut the pendant from the rod the termination would of been on the back instead of the front??? i hope that made sence..
Fiorino Glass Art
01-25-2010, 02:11 PM
In the chillum, that's devitrification, or devit. And you are right, that's because the glass wasn't hot enough. You can flame polish devit out. Lookin good though man!!!
TheGlassTree
01-25-2010, 07:04 PM
pics look much nicer than off the cell...How are those Blu electronic cigs? was thinking of getting that setup for a friend for her birthday.
hippi
01-25-2010, 11:07 PM
AThanks guys! Ill keep tryin that's for sure... oh and those blu's are awesome, haven't smoked a regular cig for 1 month and 2 days barley even need these any more
hippi
01-26-2010, 09:10 PM
well heres a couple more pendants i did... i also did a shot glass for my buddy..i dont have a picture of that though..but heres the pendants
heres a tear drop pendant..i used momka colors, aurora borealis,magic mirror, and stormy weather..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/newteardrop.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/termination.jpg
and heres another attempt at a vortex pendant...always turns out like a spiral though..maybe im spose to use the other side? oh well still wearable lol
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/spiralpendant.jpg
well off to get more oxy in the morning and hopfully post some more work...i really need to try a tube implosion need a good scorer to cut smaller pieces of tube though..
thanks for lookin!
what size tube are you cutting?
hippi
01-26-2010, 09:36 PM
havent cut any tubing yet...only flame cutting.. but i got 12,16,20 and 26mm hopin to cut the 16 or 20 i dont know though
ModderXtr
01-27-2010, 12:16 PM
You can score and cut glass with the thing out of a knife sharpener if you have one lying around
amanofmusic
01-27-2010, 01:39 PM
nice man you seem to be progressing quick, keep it up
byron3
01-27-2010, 02:09 PM
To get the vortex effect you are looking for, quit flattening out the back of the pendant. You want the pendant to look like half of a marble, like you cut the marble in half. The galaxy vortex pendants I do with dichro are about 3/4" thick, with a rounded back.
Hope that helps, work is looking good. Keep on melting.
cc_bob
01-27-2010, 03:54 PM
i really need to try a tube implosion need a good scorer to cut smaller pieces of tube though..
I just use a 3 corner file, cheap and readily available.
In the chillum, that's devitrification, or devit
This actually isn't devitrification at all. That haze is actually just a wrinkling of the surface of the glass, due to a great deal of force at too little heat, and can easily be worked out with heat.
Devitrification is just that, when the glassy matrix breaks down due to sodium loss, which is usually caused by overworking the glass (with heat, not necessarily movement). silica will group up, becoming crystobalite, a larger silica molecule which won't easily (or at all) dissolve back into the glass matric, and will almost always break.
The "devit that you can burn off" isn't devitrification at all, but polishes right out. Actual devitrification is pretty uncommon, I've personally only had it happen once, and it polished out nicely by hand with cerium oxide.
NUBBLET
01-27-2010, 08:50 PM
Its actually called Mechanical Devitrification , its one type of devits .
hippi
01-27-2010, 10:13 PM
thanks for the info guys!... well i didnt get to torch today:wes: i took my tank to get filled in the morning 9am... then had to go try and get my wifes car workin cause it took a crap... me and the father inlaw put our heads together and figure out its the fuel pump... now i gotta drop the tank..we rented a tow dollie to get it back to my house but the damn car wouldnt fit on the dollie, it was to low so we had to remove the bumper and finally got it on and home..9am-4pm workin,tinkerin driving around all day...man i think im havin glass withdrawls.. well ill be torching tomorrow so ill have some pix to show..proly more pendants maybe another shot glass...
well thanks for listing to my rant...finally got T rated hose was usin R cause thats all they had and i was wating for there order to come in...is there a easier way to put the hose on the brass fitting that come on a GTT torch? i soked the other hose in hot water but it was still a pain in the ass to get on and never really went all the way up on the fitting..maybe only 5/8ths of the way..
thanks
peace hippi
hippi
01-29-2010, 12:20 AM
hey guys hows it goin.. didnt get to do to much today.. my lil 3 year old boy pretty much ruled the day lol but i was able to do something at least..
i was watching a video by voic, i need to get my dots placed a lil cleaner but it looks like a flower..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/trippyflower.jpg
heres some of the stringers i used for the pendant below
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/colors.jpg
if i did the center green it coulda been a turtle lol ill proly have to take another picture of this..it was still hot in the pic
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/flower.jpg
well i got a new lil headband deal..holds my hair a lil better..smelled a few burnt hairs a few times lol..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/gangster.jpg
and another pipe attempt i think i need hvy wall tube.. standard wall is touchy but its fuctional...ugly but fuctional lol
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/pipelol.jpg
Fiorino Glass Art
01-29-2010, 01:27 AM
Shit's gettin there man!! Keep up the good work!!! And yeah, you def need some heavy wall. I'd get 26mil to practice with, and maybe a tube of 32 for when you feel like moving up. You can use the reg wall for tube implosions for sure.
I miss my long hair, but am now kinda glad cuz burnt hair dont smell good!!!
hippi
01-29-2010, 05:30 PM
thanks FGA! well i finally figured out coil potting (i think thats what it s called) anyway my first try i ended up droppin it and the hoop broke off and cause a crack in the pendant...(which was ok cause it was kinda a mess up anyway) so my second try i went for a small....small jar so i dont waste to much color...im gettin used to keep in the bubble a uniform shape as well.. well heres some pix...the honeycomb pattern isnt really there but i get the idea now..just gotta place the dots better..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/honeycombfar2.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/honeycombjar.jpg
thanks for lookin guys more pix to come later..
Devils Defect
01-29-2010, 06:25 PM
When doing a honeycomb, blow it out pretty thin, then apply the dots and melt it back down and it will give the dots a lot more depth. Looking good tho.
hippi
01-29-2010, 08:34 PM
When doing a honeycomb, blow it out pretty thin, then apply the dots and melt it back down and it will give the dots a lot more depth. Looking good tho.
ya thats what i did...but i blew it to thin and when i placed the first dot... it made a hole..lol.. so i condensed to close the hole then dotted the sides of the bubble to try and get some kinda honeycomb effect out of it...but after condensing to close the hole, i didnt have much room left to condense..which is why the jar is so small hahah... ill be trying this again tomorrow...
thanks!
hippi
01-30-2010, 01:20 AM
hey guys hows it goin.. just thought id post some pix from earlier... heres another octopus i did.. i made a lil foot on the bottom of the octopus so it sits off the ground a lil bit so it can be places in a fish tank, sand goes around the foot and the octo sits with arms floatin..kinda wish it was color rod..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/octopus.jpg
and heres another lil pendant..my wife picked the colors..i kinda messed up the placement but it works lol
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/chereescolors.jpg
well thanks for lookin guys! dont worry one day ill make your jaws drop..haha
The Madhatter
01-30-2010, 02:17 AM
I like the octopus, color's over rated imo. Although, I will say color is great for hiding imperfect work (that's why I use it:wonka:).
hippi
01-30-2010, 11:07 PM
haha thanks dude!... i got another combed jar.. uploadin pix now will post in a few
hippi
01-31-2010, 12:01 AM
heres the jar...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/newjar.jpg
did this one for my buddys girl...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/andijar.jpg
hippi
01-31-2010, 10:44 PM
hey guys hows it going... been messin with coil potting and honeycombs.. also started makin hemp necklaces for my pendants...thanks Genone.. well heres just a few pix..nothing special
heres a coil pot combed tear drop pendant on a hemp necklace i made..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/honeycombpendant.jpg
heres another
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/pendanthoney.jpg
the back side of the pendant had a deeper comb effect..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/honey2.jpg
not sure if im doing these right...im coil potting some color..and blowing out thin..then dotting...condencing back down and imploding a lil..then i take off the blow tube, remove excess and implode till closed...
thanks
hippi
02-01-2010, 12:09 AM
my fly tying vise and box i made works well for hemp tying.. just thought id share
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/flytieinhempbradin.jpg
put more dots closer together
hippi
02-01-2010, 12:47 AM
ok cool.. so the steps im doing are right? after i pull off blow tube i implode untill closed or are you spose to flatten out and flip and implode?
Fiorino Glass Art
02-01-2010, 03:42 PM
Nice hemp rig!!! Def beats laying in flat with masking tape, always comes undone!!!
Genone
02-01-2010, 05:48 PM
When I weave I just hold it in my hand, I can do one necklace in about 5 mins or so, but I can do them in my sleep since I've done so many, keep it up hippi...
hashmasta-kut
02-01-2010, 06:16 PM
ok cool.. so the steps im doing are right? after i pull off blow tube i implode untill closed or are you spose to flatten out and flip and implode?
i dont get the implode till closed part..?
hippi
02-01-2010, 11:09 PM
i dont get the implode till closed part..?
i ment when i remove the blow tube..it creates a open end, and i implode the open end till it closes...
GlassFreak
02-01-2010, 11:36 PM
your doing better than people i know that have been doing it for months.
get some heavy wall man, youll like it alot more.
hippi
02-02-2010, 12:23 AM
your doing better than people i know that have been doing it for months.
get some heavy wall man, youll like it alot more.
thanks dude! i owe everything to you guys..with out this site i dont know what id do..
heres some more pix.. im gettin a lil better at condensing and imploding tube.. this lil jar was a coil pot blown out. it seems like it takes a lot of color to when doing coil potting.. i almost used a 10" stick and i couldnt blow it out to big.. well here it is
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/honeycombjar2-2.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/honeycombjar2.jpg
and heres another coil pot combed pendant but when i was taking excess glass off of the hoop, it ended up fallin off the punty as well and goin straight into the jar of water...lol..snap crackle POP!
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/flatpendantcombed.jpg
berning
02-02-2010, 07:08 AM
nice to see your progresion. your stuffs lookin good. i like the use of the fly tying vise. meltin glass and fly fishin,two of my favorite things.
hippi
02-02-2010, 12:47 PM
nice to see your progresion. your stuffs lookin good. i like the use of the fly tying vise. meltin glass and fly fishin,two of my favorite things.
thanks dude! ya i love fishin...just got into fly fishing i mainly go for bass, tossin 10" swimbaits..but tieing flys is fun
well i just finished another pendant,one of my biggest ones so far i think...wish i could of did it a lil better but its wearable i think..i also did my biggest thickest jar as well! defently made me want a phantom lol although i havent maxed out my torch yet either..i dont think ive even opened it up half way yet...lol..i made the jar out of 26mm standard wall but condenced the hell out of it and blew it back out.. ill have pix when they cool off..
thanks again guys
berning
02-02-2010, 01:17 PM
i think i'm about the half way point between you and the flame off.........the rivers a hop,skip and a jump from my house.
hippi
02-02-2010, 04:41 PM
heres the jar i did eariler
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/thicknewjar.jpg
and heres the pendant..its about 1" in dia and about 3/4" thick
it got a lot of bubbles in it though
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/bigpendant.jpg
hippi
02-02-2010, 10:22 PM
hey guys hows it goin...my buddy came over and was tossin some ideas around putting them on paper..he wanted a lil concentrate jar with a shroom stickin off the side..now i dont have a kiln so i cant stick one in the kiln while i work on another but i did my best and didnt get any cracks.. the shroom came out a lil small but i think it worked out
here ya go...i really need some corks for all these jars..need to go to craft store tomorrow
this is the first one i did..accidentally stretched the shroom a lil
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/firstshroomjar.jpg
heres the second 1
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/shroomjar.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/shroomjar2.jpg
thanks for lookin!
wieseatron
02-02-2010, 11:18 PM
It's awesome to see someone progressing through the coil potting early on, it's lookin great keep up the good work!
hippi
02-03-2010, 10:13 AM
thanks dude! i hope i progress more and more! well back to the torch! more pix to come
hippi
02-03-2010, 07:17 PM
well i didnt do much today..my wifes car is still broken so i had to take my pops to work real earily this morning and i was up all night crapin because of this mongolin food i ate... so i was lazy but i got inspired by our member joe_riv with his peace sign pendant.. i tried a few small ones, this was my best one but i should of used more contrasting colors... now when trying new things i should do it on a bigger maria to make it a lil easier but i didnt want to waste color..so this pendant is only about 5/8 maybe
well here it is.. ill be doing a lil more of these i think they look pretty rad.. hard to control the dots sometimes though..but ill get it
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/peace.jpg
thanks for looking more to come!
ModderXtr
02-04-2010, 01:15 AM
Hey hippi, when you make your implosions like that, after you make the maria and draw the dots or whatever...then what do you do? Everyone always says to implode it but never how? Do you just spin it and let it condense or is there a tech to it?
hippi
02-04-2010, 10:57 AM
Hey hippi, when you make your implosions like that, after you make the maria and draw the dots or whatever...then what do you do? Everyone always says to implode it but never how? Do you just spin it and let it condense or is there a tech to it?
ya when i do these
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/peace.jpg
i make the maria and draw my lines or dots then implode.. when i do that i do the elbow up tech.. so its the opposite from what you do to make a gather.. rotate slow and watch it start to implode.. youll start to see the dots getting closer to the center..if you do it to much you can distort the image though.. barley flatten out a lil bit once all is melted in and then detach from the rod pick off excess and melt in the rest creating the magnification in the front. then add the hoop.. hope that made a lil sense.. i need to get another shade lens for my camera so i can take some video..
im gonna do a few more of the peace sign pendants today with more contrasting colors so its easier to see.. proly gonna do a bigger one to with 16mm rod..the one above was done with 10mm..
haha woah i cant believe MY work inspired some1! what a trip. Lookin good Hipp! and yes a larger diameter rod makes things easier. When I make my pendants I fuse a length of large diameter to a 7mm rod. then use the 7mm rod as a handle so im not spinning a fat rod n stressn my arm (a counter-weight gather of glass on the opposite end of the handle rod is nice too)
Also when u start w a larger diameter u have more room to work on a wider maria, then when u implode the work itll 'gauge' down and even make ur work look cleaner. for this tech ill implode a bit, then lightly flatten the work out again (almost back into a maria but dont use as much pressure). this will give u a magnifier that u can view the work thru so u can tell if u want to further implode or leave as is.
BTW r u using a stringer to make ur dots? pull a medium (3mm?) stringer and itll give u much more control. Striking colors also make these pieces siiiiick. the one u commented on was blue moon, and the inner dots r just silver fume.
Good work man and thanks for the crazy compliment!
~J
hippi
02-04-2010, 12:07 PM
haha woah i cant believe MY work inspired some1! what a trip. Lookin good Hipp! and yes a larger diameter rod makes things easier. When I make my pendants I fuse a length of large diameter to a 7mm rod. then use the 7mm rod as a handle so im not spinning a fat rod n stressn my arm (a counter-weight gather of glass on the opposite end of the handle rod is nice too)
Also when u start w a larger diameter u have more room to work on a wider maria, then when u implode the work itll 'gauge' down and even make ur work look cleaner. for this tech ill implode a bit, then lightly flatten the work out again (almost back into a maria but dont use as much pressure). this will give u a magnifier that u can view the work thru so u can tell if u want to further implode or leave as is.
BTW r u using a stringer to make ur dots? pull a medium (3mm?) stringer and itll give u much more control. Striking colors also make these pieces siiiiick. the one u commented on was blue moon, and the inner dots r just silver fume.
Good work man and thanks for the crazy compliment!
~J
i should be thanking you for passing on the ideas! i am pulling stringers to make the dots but was pulling them to like1.5-2mm cause of the small maria i used.. im gonna do a bigger one today and will use thicker stringers for sure..i found early on that small stringers tend to melt early before hitting the pendant lol.. but im getting the hang of the small stringer work..
striking colors? are those colors that strike in the kiln or strike in the flame? i have used some GA and MOMKA colors that look like one color but then in the flame turn to another color or colors..but then used a GA color that was clear but was spose to strike to red..well the flame didnt strike it so i figured a kiln is needed.. i dont have a kiln yet so....
thanks for lookin and the great ideas!!
o man u gotta study up on how to use these colors. Every glass company has them! basically they are colors that react differently to the environment of the flame used to work them. Im sure if u poke around the threads in the 'color room' ull get sum ideas as to their nature. for example all the colored dots that make up the peace sign are blue moon (one of my favorite colors). An oxygen rich flame gave the deep blue green for the outer dots (or ring of the peace sign) while a reducing flame gave the softer "washed out" green for the inner dots.
Yes these colors can be struck in a kiln, but i dont know much about doing that. concerning the red color -> if its a part of the "ruby" family i think u wanna work it in a neutral flame. then after ur design is melted in let the piece cool a bit, then re-heat it to a soft glow using a reducing flame. this should strike the reds right into it. its hella cool to watch too bc u can literally see the color strike into ur piece.
Do ur research. this forum is a wealth of knowledge.
~J
hippi
02-04-2010, 02:34 PM
awesome ill go check out that glass color forum!.. i think i just used one of these colors...called triple passion from GA did my first jelly fish with it.. the head of the jelly came out reddish where the legs of the jelly looks almost like fume...then when i broke off the punty and cleaned up by torchin the ends of the legs turned a lil fadded red..i defently have some reading up to do! i think ill like these colors a lot! proly gotta learn my torch better as well i just know how to make a big flame and a pinner flame lol
hippi
02-04-2010, 04:11 PM
hey guys heres some stuff right out of the fiber blanket haha...one day ill say "out of the kiln" but heres another peace pendant
about 1" or so and about 3/4" thick
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/newpeace.jpg
and heres my first jelly fish..pendant is about 1.5 - 2" from top of loop to bottom of pendant.. i have another jelly under the blanket as well coolin off
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/jelly.jpg
wieseatron
02-04-2010, 04:16 PM
I remember those fiber glass blanket days as well. Nice pendent but doesnt a peace sign have a line going down the middle too?
hippi
02-04-2010, 04:22 PM
lol opps..... ok i did a mercedes sign lol...
thanks for pointing that out
dorkeedude
02-04-2010, 04:44 PM
Nice Peace "mercedes" sign!:D
GlassFreak
02-04-2010, 05:47 PM
ive seen peace signs done either way.
hippi
02-04-2010, 06:22 PM
ive seen peace signs done either way.
good to know!...i gotta pay more attention, or find someone that likes mercedes lol...i blame it on my wife..i asked her to double check and she said the mercedes has the line going all the way down the center lol.. o well at least the colors came out good lol
thanks for lookin
hippi
02-05-2010, 06:13 PM
hey guys...another lil update.. my kid is turning 4 this super bowl sunday..and since its super bowl there will be drinks flowing around..(for the adults not the kids lol) and i thought id make some drink stirrers.. and i did them in team colors to be festive haha.. ..
well here is the colts...the white ended up bubbling a lil bit and distored the other colors a lil but it works i guess
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/stirpendant.jpg
and here are the saints! i think this mixer turned out the best i got a lil sloppy with the other one but i also tried to use a lil milli that our every own BZglass gave me..i think it came out good for my first time applying milli kinda hard to get a good pic of it though
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/drinkstirstar.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/stirstar.jpg
ill try and take another pic without the flash
well thanks for looking guys!!! i killed my propane so i gotta get that filled and my oxy is almost gone so might as well get a new one to...gotta try and coil pot some footballs for sunday!
peace hippi
hippi
02-05-2010, 07:02 PM
hey i ended up getting a better pic of the milli just had to turn off the flash on my droid but i think thats as good as im gonna get using a cell
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/milli.jpg
GlassFreak
02-06-2010, 01:45 AM
nice, i have yet to put a milli in anything, i have a few milli rods but dont really know how to use them... and dont have disc cutters
hippi
02-06-2010, 11:22 AM
nice, i have yet to put a milli in anything, i have a few milli rods but dont really know how to use them... and dont have disc cutters
no need for disc cutters dude!! check out BZglass youtube channel..hes the one who gave me the millis and he posted a vid to show how to put them on... pretty much heat the end of the milli and the piece your putting it on..when everythings hot stick the milli where you want it..let it cool a lil bit and just snap it off...comes off really clean!
i just scored the milli rod and used pliers to break it off then i attached a punty to it and stuck it to the piece then snapped the punty off...
after using this one milli for my first time i want more!!! haha to bad i dont have enough color rods to make a miili
GlassFreak
02-06-2010, 01:05 PM
awsome thanks man. ive heard of that tech once befor but not in detail, hardly a tut.
hippi
02-07-2010, 10:26 AM
for sure dude! hope you can put your milli cane to work! credit has to go to BZglass though..thanks again dude!
Fiorino Glass Art
02-07-2010, 11:57 AM
One thing with snapping off millis is to make sure your base glass is strong enough to take the snap. Never done it myself, but was always told and read that. Still gotta get me some milli!
hippi
02-09-2010, 10:50 AM
hey guys...its been a tuff few days..havent been able to get torch for a few days.. saturday i had to get ready for my boys bday on sunday...sunday me and my wife were busy with our boys bday and the superbowl...monday my boy had to go into surgery to shrink some tissue in his throat to help him breath clearer... so we were at the hosptial all day and night...but now i just got my boy back home, hes chillin doin good, breathing almost 100% better and i should be able to get on the torch again today!! i was trying a vortex pendant a few days ago but i couldnt get it right...i cant seem to get the spiral to go all the way to the back of the pendant... ill post a pic of the one i did so you guys can see what im doing wrong...
well thanks for takin the time to read and hopefully i can post some new pix soon..
peace
hippi
NUBBLET
02-09-2010, 02:55 PM
glad to hear things are good man .
hippi
02-09-2010, 03:27 PM
glad to hear things are good man .
thanks dude!
well i just got off the torch and i think i made the best pendant so far..biggest to! plus its for me haha..also was real successful in attaching a milli, the loop came out good and i put the small flame to good use for once and got the loop and milli melted in good.....was happy about that lol
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-09141009.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-09140948.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-09140938.jpg
opps big pix...
hippi
02-09-2010, 06:14 PM
a few more i just got done with...
heres my first actuall honeycomb pendant! i coil potted some sunset beach from momka and dotted with clear and imploded and condenced over and over then backed with a blue
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-09165631.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-09165707.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-09165714.jpg
and a lil jar i did from a scrap point and extra stringers i had laying around...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-09170649.jpg
and next to a lighter for size
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-09170709.jpg
hippi
02-09-2010, 08:01 PM
one more combed pendant...before i clean up shop
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-09185258.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-09185307.jpg
peace hippi
hashmasta-kut
02-10-2010, 06:42 AM
right on, looks like fun.
hippi
02-10-2010, 09:32 AM
thanks dude! i need to put a order in for some color and some thicker and bigger tube...when i ordered all my stuff the biggest tube i ordered was 25 or 26mm standard wall...it works for my attempts at pipes but when i use my 19mm hvy wall i like working with it a lot better..so i need to get some 38 hvy or something so i can make this thread a lil more interesting with pipes and such instead of pendants and jars lol
thanks for lookin dude!
GlassFreak
02-10-2010, 11:29 AM
nice man, likin the combs
hippi
02-10-2010, 01:32 PM
thanks there pretty fun and look cool when the dots get melted in...
well heres some pipes i tried with the 16mm hvy wall i had..its been about 2 weeks since i tried to make another pipe but these are far far better then my first attempts to i guess im learning the glass a lil better..
sux the side got a lil misshaped but its functional
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-10120925.jpg
heres the other one..its a lil longer and has 2 maria's but.......i forgot to put the carb lol
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-10120954.jpg
and when i was making one of those pipes, i forget which one but i got some 9mmhvy ready for my blow tube..fire polished both ends...got some other stuff ready to let the blowtube cool...well i learned a good lesson...check to see if the mouth piece is hot or not before putting to your lips....it wasnt molten but it was hot enough to singe my lips lol...not real bad but good enough for me to never do that again haha...
i guess sooner is better later haha
GlassFreak
02-10-2010, 04:04 PM
HAHA thatll teach ya real quick. ouchy.
the stems look great, work on keepin the head round and the bowl hole small and you got some nice pipes man.
hippi
02-10-2010, 11:46 PM
lol ill double check the mouthpiece every time now lol...
ya i havent figured out how to do a perfect bowl push yet...could be my push has the lil poker on the end of it idk.. ill be at it again tomorrow..
here is a dish i did.. i couldnt decide between a pendant or a small jar so i made a dish.. i coil potted some translucent green i think it was sea green blew out thin and then fumed then dotted and shaped....
heres the coil pot after i fumed it
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-10153652.jpg
heres the under side of the dish
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/1stdish.jpg
top view
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-10162107.jpg
thanks for lookin guys!!
hippi
02-11-2010, 05:28 PM
hey guys hows it goin... well i cleaned my bench today lol
heres a pic for kicks
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-11155624.jpg
i finally found a lil holding place for my stringers...lol putting the traxxas slash tires to good use
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-11161307.jpg
and i made a new dish as well.. now i just gotta make a dabber to go along with it
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-11140032.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-11140018.jpg
GlassFreak
02-11-2010, 06:22 PM
nice setup
Slimy-E
02-11-2010, 07:06 PM
Moving up to some hvy wall will slow it down and give you more time to get it right without things going wrong as fast. You know i still am using a smaller torch than u, but i use 32 heavy wall all day and 38mm colbalt tubes. anything smaller just feels like nothing. those honey combs are looking great and i love the piece signs- i think that is how the original ones were.
hippi
02-11-2010, 07:24 PM
thanks guys! ya i need some big hvy wall fast!!!! i dont know what i was thinking buying the small stuff...heck i already want a bigger torch lol.. colbolt tubing would be cool!
well time for one more session on the torch before i call it a night...
peace hippi
ZombieGlass
02-11-2010, 08:02 PM
Ive been watching your progress, and all I have to say is WOW. I just ordered my Lynx today and waiting on my shed to get here, before I can start. Hope I progress as fast as you! Those honeycombs look badass.
hippi
02-11-2010, 11:26 PM
Ive been watching your progress, and all I have to say is WOW. I just ordered my Lynx today and waiting on my shed to get here, before I can start. Hope I progress as fast as you! Those honeycombs look badass.
thanks jenni! thats cool you got a lynx, GTTs are awesome! im super happy i got a cheetah and not a nortel..theres so many flame settings its crazy..honeycombs are hella fun to make, so far combed jars and dishes and pendants are my favorite cant wait till i can make a sick pipe or something..
just rage the torch everyday and you will progress for sure!
hippi
02-13-2010, 01:17 AM
hey guys hows it goin!.. i made my first sale!!! sold one of the honeycomb pendants and im definitely happy about that..pretty cool havin someone buy something you made... well heres some more pix of what i did today..
heres a green honeycomb pendant..inside the house the pendant just looks green but take it in the sun and it shows its combs
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/greenhoney.jpg
i wanted to try one of those coral pendants ive been seeing...i definitely used the wrong colors...ill have to try that one again...looks pretty crazy though
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/wannabcoral.jpg
a lil glass wand
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/cooldabber.jpg
and a heart pendant my buddy wanted me to make for him to give to his girl... i might have to redo this one but pretty good for the first try..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/heart.jpg
well thanks for looking guys!.. o ya i tried a rettie or what ever its called..and failed lol
peace
hippi
CheeseNip
02-13-2010, 12:23 PM
Have you done an implosion? when you do the coral pendants try blowing a bubble, then draw a bunch a crazy shit on it, stuff like squiggles, dots, n shit, then implode the piss out of it and you will get what your looking for. well, atleast what i think your looking for. you can get some really sweet effects this way.. work is looking good. how long you been at it now?
hippi
02-13-2010, 12:41 PM
Have you done an implosion? when you do the coral pendants try blowing a bubble, then draw a bunch a crazy shit on it, stuff like squiggles, dots, n shit, then implode the piss out of it and you will get what your looking for. well, atleast what i think your looking for. you can get some really sweet effects this way.. work is looking good. how long you been at it now?
oic there done with tube...lol i did that on with rod... ill have to go try it with tube now thanks for the info! i think ive been on the torch for about a month now.. i need to order some bigger hvy wall tubing...so i can try bigger things
Slimy-E
02-13-2010, 06:34 PM
for inplosions, you don't need bigger tube, although that will help for other things. Just blow out a bubble at the end of a tube to give u a bit more room to draw on it. There are good implotion demos on here somewhere. Check out the spider one. I forgot his screen name but someone here will know it, the guy is from Romainia i think.
hippi
02-13-2010, 11:32 PM
ya ive seen that spider vid...i think the dudes name is VOIC he does awesome work..his spiders are done with rod though arnt they?
im still trying to get the hang of writing backwards on pendants lol made this one for my brother in laws dog Buster..hes a fat lil chiwawa we always call big b. the colors are green ivy for the letters and guacamole for the background..messed up and trapped some air but its all good the dog wont know lol..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-13113259.jpg
and when i woke up this morning i found a new chair my pops bought for me at the swap meet...i like it its taller then my other one has flames and was only 10$ lol..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-13214955.jpg
hopefully tomorrow i can have some work to show you..i didnt get much done was tired today for some reason...tomorrow will be better i promise
GlassFreak
02-14-2010, 01:20 AM
yea the spiders are done on rod not tube, with rod to get more depth you have to flatten the initial gather more then imlode the design. after that you just focus on the rim of the gather, like the tread of a tire (said in the spider vid) at elbo up till it thickens up.
its the same thing with tube, its just alot easier to get reeeeealy deep cuz you can blow it out thinner in the first place.
the 25 heavy you have should be golden for implotion beads man, just make sure you blow out the buble as much as you can without getting wrinkles and when you imlode it down only go about half way into your bubble, rip it off the bubble, clean up the edges leaving a rim of excess glass that you build up just like the rod, like the tread of a tire at elbow up, working from the edge to the middle, takes alot of practice but the effects are great. especially when you use striking colors and back the bead with black.
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forgot to meantion, if you have any silver at all just fuming and clear is a great way to practice multiple things with one piece.
hippi
02-14-2010, 06:19 PM
cool thanks glassfreak!.. well i went searching on the boards today lookin for wigwag pendants and i found a link to a picture TUT.. i tried it out and i think it came out pretty good...except it shows my wig but i think i lost the wag when i did the termanation.. any advice on these would be awesome!..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/wigwagpendant.jpg
ill have to take another pic..this pic was takin when the pendant was still hot..theres acutally red and yellow in there
peace hippi
Bo Diddles
02-14-2010, 06:30 PM
Just focus on keeping everything centered and aligned from start to finish. Do a bunch in a row and be as observant as possible. You'll get the hang of it!
I like the colour combo in that last one.
hippi
02-14-2010, 06:58 PM
thanks diddles! i think thats my problem, my termination wasnt centered..i tried to center it as it melted but theres always next time.. i think im gonna try to lay the "cane" on its side when i attach it to the clear gather and try to get the lil swirls at the ends...
LifeGlass
02-14-2010, 10:14 PM
WORDEM UP good shit bro. Just lookin thru your stuff, try making a heart shaped pendant for your buddy, if you still need ta. but its a good lil tech.
hippi
02-15-2010, 10:47 AM
thanks dude! heres that pendant above all cooled down
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/wigpendant.jpg
and heres another one i did last night..didnt come out as good as the first but its pratice
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/wigwagwartoendant.jpg
cc_bob
02-15-2010, 04:11 PM
hes a fat lil chiwawa we always call big b.
Ha Ha, Big B (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp0xBvM2l_4):spin:
hippi
02-15-2010, 05:31 PM
Ha Ha, Big B (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp0xBvM2l_4):spin:
lol thats where we got it from...lol he rockin it right now ill get a pic of him..now i just gotta make a better one for him without the bubbles and cleaner letters..lol
i also tried to do another wigwag pendant lile this @W@ but it failed snaped off punty twice to while i was making it...second one fell in my lap and was 1sec away from goin thru my pants so i labeled it trash lol.. i was also making a big jar for a buddy about 5" tall kinda made it have a lil pistol grip look to it.. i was puttin some dots on it and forgot to give it more flame at the base and when the flame did hit it it went crack!.. i was kinda able to get the cracks out but it was poo.. i need to get a damn kiln asap..my pops said hed front the money for 1 but i really dont like owein money so idk... maybe i will cause it well help me progress a lot more....and waiting for the one dude to post pix of his phantom to....damn 20days in and i already want a bigger torch lol.. in the mean time ill just crank the nobs and rage the cheetah lol...im finding some good flames on this bad boy..got one this morning down to about 3/16" at the base and pretty damn sharp at the tip.. well im rambling lol
peace hippi
bzglass
02-16-2010, 09:09 AM
Starting to look good hippi keep em coming!!
naughty pirate wench
02-17-2010, 11:26 AM
Hippi, your work is looking really good! Can't wait to see what you come up with next! (and that new cool stool with the flames is da bomb!)
hippi
02-17-2010, 11:56 AM
thank chris and BZglass! my wife needed my truck yesterday so i didnt get to fill my tank...so im doin it today and hopefully i can get some more work done
thanks for the positive vibes!
peace hippi
Davis Anderson
02-17-2010, 04:35 PM
:chilling:Which is the wig? And which is a wag?
hippi
02-17-2010, 06:26 PM
lol i think the both only got the wig in there lol..when i did my termination i twisted to much..that why they have the swirl... could almost be a reversable pendant..the back side looks like a vortex..
peace
hippi
CheeseNip
02-17-2010, 07:28 PM
when you gonna try another coral!? i wanna see when you do!
ModderXtr
02-17-2010, 11:57 PM
When youre writing words in, it helps to write it out on paper first (i just write on my bench lol) then you can lreference it while you're actually in the flame
GlassFreak
02-18-2010, 12:11 AM
yea its always good to wright the words down first, i hate getting half way through with a pendant and end up flippin a letter...
hippi
02-18-2010, 12:12 AM
When youre writing words in, it helps to write it out on paper first (i just write on my bench lol) then you can lreference it while you're actually in the flame
lol thats a good idea that way i dont have to be distracted by my brain trying to write backwards lol...
well i havent posted much work havent been able to get to the torch but i did a lil today b4 my oxy tank ran out......dont worry i took it and got it filled today lol
heres my first grommet slide attempt i didnt bother fire polishing the end of it cause when i went to score the tube with a cheezy glass cutter..i scored, taped, taped,and taped then i wasnt thinkin and put the bowl on the table and TAP! it broke off the tube but also broke off the lil horn i put on the side for a grabber lol. ill try again tomorrow sux i dont have a piece to test them out with..need gongs.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-17224452.jpg
the holes a lil big but not bad
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-17224509.jpg
ps. that lil glob under the red strip is the clear lines i laid on the 9.5mm tube...forgot to melt that part in lol
berning
02-18-2010, 07:22 AM
after you make your score do you rub the score with your finger,wetting the score? i make my scores with a 2 dollar triangle file from the bargain bin at the hardware store and don't use tape at all. 20 mm rodd and 19 mm tube is as big as i go with the score and snap method, any bigger and it's time to use the torch
hippi
02-18-2010, 12:26 PM
after you make your score do you rub the score with your finger,wetting the score? i make my scores with a 2 dollar triangle file from the bargain bin at the hardware store and don't use tape at all. 20 mm rodd and 19 mm tube is as big as i go with the score and snap method, any bigger and it's time to use the torch
triangle file huh...is that what there called? when i go to a hardware store and ask for a glass scorer all they have is the lil handle with a small wheel at the end...they dull quick..
GlassFreak
02-18-2010, 03:13 PM
the triangle files are used for metal work or tool sharpening. they have 3 points of different grit, use the smallest grit point.
hippi
02-18-2010, 05:54 PM
cool ill have to go look for one of those... well i had a lil bit of a ruff start this morning trying these wigwag pendants.. messed up about 2 or 3 lost a lil bit of color but at the end of the session i got a few out that look ok...
the first one broke off the puntie and fell on the ground...i saved it but it got a lil ugly
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-18163145.jpg
and heres another one i did tried to get a different look like this W@W..but i guess these need to be backed with another color..idk i cant get this style to be circle like the pendant...any tips?
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-18163324.jpg
heres the back side of that pendant i thought it looked kinda cool almost like it has 2 vortex
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-18163042.jpg
thanks for lookin guys!! hopefully ill get a few more done today for practice
one thing that sux is i have enought extra wigwaged rod to do like another pendant maybe 2 but since i dont have a kiln yets its hard to heat it back up with out it exploding on me...so a lot of color gets wasted
hippi
02-18-2010, 07:51 PM
heres the last one for the night...man i really wish i had a closed studio..i dont like having to have the garage open all night..well here it is another wigwag pendant i backed this one with pastashio...still havent mastered the full circle wigwag always turns out like a bean shape...i also kinda messed up and put the wigwaged cane on the wrong side but it came out looking ok...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-18182646.jpg
the way i did it is i got a 12mm rod striped one clear line then a yellow on both sides of the clear then a green on both sides of the yellow...the rest of the rod was coverd in a blueish black so the rod was half striped half full color...the half with the blue/black was spose to be on the bottom and the clear,yellow and green on top..i think it would of looked cool if i did it how i thought i was planning but its cool...
thanks for lookin
peace hippi
crap some blanket dust got on it..
TheGlassTree
02-18-2010, 08:10 PM
Sweet! looking pimp... keep up the good work
Slimy-E
02-18-2010, 08:14 PM
Wow, that @w@ is awsome. I can't believe your thread is 10 pages already!
hippi
02-18-2010, 08:29 PM
thanks guys!!! this is my best @W@ so far! if only i can get it more round..its always bean shaped...
ya i know 10 pages is crazy i love this art!
Slimy-E
02-18-2010, 09:14 PM
it looks like the not round, bean part is a size thing, cause it is all @ and no W.
hippi
02-18-2010, 09:21 PM
it looks like the not round, bean part is a size thing, cause it is all @ and no W.
so does that mean i should use a longer piece of wigwag cane or thicker rod
Slimy-E
02-18-2010, 09:38 PM
oh you are not doing it hollow? i would try it hollow with color sripes on one side of the tube then a solid color on the other. wig wag it back and forth, but not all the way around, then ball it up and pop a hole on the solid color side and flare out the edges, shrink and back if you need more glass. do it with a small tube, and you got yourself an r-ball
Slimy-E
02-18-2010, 09:39 PM
or longer cane
hippi
02-18-2010, 10:09 PM
ya im doing it solid... i was thinking of trying it out of tube but wasnt sure of all the steps... after i get the ball do i just smash it flat?
steak351
02-18-2010, 11:12 PM
cool man maybe break down your steps a little more to explain it to me looks fun to make i really like the pattern
GlassFreak
02-19-2010, 12:03 AM
that last one looks like a good @W@.
hippi
02-19-2010, 12:15 AM
cool man maybe break down your steps a little more to explain it to me looks fun to make i really like the pattern
ya for sure dude..
0. create a SMALL gather on a 16mm rod and put aside
1. get you clear rod i use 10-12mm and pick the colors you want to use
2. i laid a clear line down first then on both sides of the clear put one color. ( i put green on both sides of the clear then yellow on both sides of green, that took up about half the rod. the other half will be one solid color i use a dark blue)
3. melt it all in and puntie up to it..
4. get a small flame and heat one a lil spot and twist, let it cool a lil and move to the next lil section and twist the opposite way and do that the length of your color.
5. once its all twisted up remove your puntie but dont snap off heat a lil section of your color and twist it off..
6. now puntie up to the center section of your color and heat and twist the wigwag off the 10-12mm rod..
7. now heat the tip of the SMALL gather you did in the beginning and softly attach your wigwag section on the opposite side of your puntie..remove puntie
8. now start to melt in with a lil elbow up to get the tips of the wigwag to point out like bull horns then just melt in with the rod horizontal. it will get a wobbly but just keep it center. once almost melted in gather up a lil and smash to a maria..
remove maria from rod back it if you want and put a loop... i took a lil vid of me making one..not a very good angle it was a spur of the moment vid off my cell... uploadin it on youtube now.. it does show you how the wigwag should look on your gather b4 melted in though... ill post it here when its done...
i hope my lil TUT made sense...
peace hippi
hippi
02-19-2010, 12:43 AM
heres the vid...pretty good for a cell phone i think lol....everythin iphone doest DROID DOES lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FKvhBUNsho
steak351
02-19-2010, 12:46 AM
cool thank you very much, ill try and post that
GlassFreak
02-19-2010, 10:07 AM
wow thats a fuckin cell phone cam? its fuckin better than my digi...
hippi
02-19-2010, 12:05 PM
wow thats a fuckin cell phone cam? its fuckin better than my digi...
lol ya thats my cell its a droid i was suprised to lol... sux it didnt record all the whole vid..ill grab my vid recorder next time..
hippi
02-20-2010, 01:19 AM
hey guys how is goin.. i didnt do much on the torch today..made a few pendants and a lil chillium that i messed up towards the end but heres one of the pendants i did, i proly should of used a lil bit darker background but it works..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-20000409.jpg ill have more time on the torch tomorrow gonna practice a few more of these.. how do i get the mirrored wigwag? ill try to get a pic if you dont know what i mean..
berning
02-20-2010, 06:58 AM
your pendants are really looking nice . i'm enjoying watching he progression. i wish i would have taken more pics along the way.
hippi
02-21-2010, 01:18 AM
your pendants are really looking nice . i'm enjoying watching he progression. i wish i would have taken more pics along the way.
thanks dude! i havent got the wigwag pendants down quite yet about 1 or 2 outta 3 look good enough to wear... i tried one earlier but i tried incasing the color lines in clear before twisting and it didnt come out right.. i cant wait to get my kiln cause im wasting a lot of color by not being able to heat it back up without it exploding...some times i get lucky and it doesnt blow up.. i take a pic of everything i make unless its totally not worth it..
how do i get the mirror image wigwag? put 2 together?
peace hippi
Uriel
02-21-2010, 01:25 AM
Hippi,, get a metal bucket with some sand in it,, place bucket @ very back end of torch flame (just where there's 'wash' heat) place your puntys with the work you wanna keep warm in the wash turn it every now and then while your building the 2nd section. It aint a perfect fix but It will work until you get a kiln!
NUBBLET
02-21-2010, 04:34 AM
or a hot plate ?
Right now i am stuck using a bucket filled with Vermiculite, same kind of deal i guess as your fiber blanket but i just kind of jam anything i need to keep warm for a bit in it. Essentially i could toss the vermiculite in a crockpot as well to put things in.
Also i have had a little success reheating pendants to fix by just SLOWLY reintroducing them to the flame.. like real slow..
Hope that helps!
hippi
02-21-2010, 10:37 PM
well i didnt do much today..was chillin with the inlaws but i did get a few things done... but just got this pic of a honeycomb pendant...i dotted it with pistachio instead of clear to see what would happen..shoulda put bigger dots..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-21212007.jpg
GlassFreak
02-22-2010, 12:18 AM
not necessarily bigger dots, but more on top of the already melted in ones, the more dots you layer onto already melted in ones the more they will spread and give a good honey comb effect.
hippi
02-22-2010, 12:33 AM
not necessarily bigger dots, but more on top of the already melted in ones, the more dots you layer onto already melted in ones the more they will spread and give a good honey comb effect.
cool ya ive only been putting one layer..ill try more dots tomorrow.. i also didnt coil pot this one i striped the color down a clear rod..worked pretty good this way and used less color
hippi
02-22-2010, 02:58 PM
hey guys i got a quick question...ive been working on getting my jars bigger and thicker..currently using 25mm standard wall tubing then ill stripe what ever color or colors im using mostly a a few stripes on all 4 sides of the far and the rest in clear...for some reason i always have trouble melting in my termination ends...the rest of the lines melt in fine...ill post a pic when the one i just did gets out of the fiber blanket<----haha
i was thinking maybe rap a line of color around the top and bottom so see if that helps... well stay tuned for the pic...
Devils Defect
02-22-2010, 03:25 PM
Melt everything in before you detatch your blowtube. Make it one bubble then do your shaping. I think thats what yer asking. Is it because you start losing control of the blowtube because its starts melting?
hippi
02-22-2010, 03:38 PM
Melt everything in before you detatch your blowtube. Make it one bubble then do your shaping. I think thats what yer asking. Is it because you start losing control of the blowtube because its starts melting?
ya the tube gets funky quick im guessin cause the std wall tube.. i think im also shaping as i go so i need to make sure i melt b4 i shape...i finally started using a bigger bushy flame to heat the whole piece...man..3 more days and i can get my phantom lol should make things a lil easier
hippi
02-22-2010, 03:58 PM
heres some pix
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-22145155.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-22145142.jpg
i proly should stop wasting color on them but some times clear gets boring lol..the yellow and blue striped one was wigwaged at the top but the tube got floppy on me cause i accidentally stretched it..the single blue stripe is cool but small the other one needs the termination melted in...
hippi
02-23-2010, 12:14 AM
my parallel closing mashers came today!!!! they were backordered since i ordered my torch.. i kinda wish they opened wider but ill make it work..no just gotta find things to mash lol..i attempted my first donut pendant..well donut anyway..i didnt take i pic of it cause i got a lil hole in it..now that i got these it might be a lil easier..
back on the torch in the morning..
peace hippi
Devils Defect
02-23-2010, 09:06 AM
Your donut pendant solid? If not usually something thats hollow needs to have a hole in it, or is going to create one by itself.
hippi
02-24-2010, 12:23 AM
Your donut pendant solid? If not usually something thats hollow needs to have a hole in it, or is going to create one by itself.
oh i see...so most donut pendants are solid? makes sence...i was trying to pull a point and both ends were closed then all of a sudden pop lol...
well here are a few things.... more jars,one big one but not fully melted..and a wiggity wag pendant that kinda failed....
jar #1 small but thick
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-23230110.jpg
jar #2.. idk why i can melt in a small jar but not fully on a big jar...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-23230246.jpg
and last but not least a wigwag pendant
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-23230310.jpg
and i guess for the hell of it some action shots..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/100_1851.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/100_1852.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/100_1853.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/100_1854.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/100_1855.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/100_1856.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/100_1857.jpg
peace hippi
NUBBLET
02-24-2010, 03:44 AM
search forum for better donuts , but heres mine :
Blow a bubble as round as possible , heat the bubble evenly and mash with paddle on pad making sure to keep it parallel and your tube centered , now heat a small spot in middle of flat spot , puff this out to a thin mound , now repeat on other side . You should have a flying saucer almost , a disk with a thin mound on each side .
Now pop the tips of the mounds , first is normal second you need to blow a lil harder , now heat the holes so they draw back and open a lil more one side then the other repeat till they are round and even sized as best you can also trying to keep centered . I find if you heat the hole on bottom with torch pointed up it works great then when the hole is hot flip it and heat the other , while you do this the top hole is slump in some typically flat or close , try to keep them from going in it tends to stretch the hole when you push . Now heat the bottom hole and take your push and push the hole in half way , repeat to other hole , make sure they touch all the way around or you will get a funky hole going , you can heat around and tease or repush a lil to make sure .
now take this and heat the hole to even out the wall and weld and you got a donut . You can then manipulate the donut like stretch or twist ......
good luck .
Devils Defect
02-24-2010, 09:03 AM
I havent seen a solid donut, I was just wondering if you were doing them solid or not. When you heat up a closed hollow piece, the air inside pushes itself out and creates a hole.
hippi
02-24-2010, 01:47 PM
WOW what a difference a extra set of dots make!!.. i proly should of left it with out the backing because its transparent..but it looks kinda cool..the combs are way deeper then the others i did.. 2 sets of dots from now on!.. sux i just ran out of propane though... lol 1 propane tank lasted like 5 or 6 oxy tanks...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-24123334.jpg ill get a better pic when it cools down more
hope you like it
peace hippi
your combs are coming together man keep it up!
amanofmusic
02-24-2010, 05:35 PM
great progress hippi. it seems like you really did your research and its paying off, congratulations
TheGlassTree
02-24-2010, 05:43 PM
Check your lines for leaks spray all connections with soapy water from a spray bottle with pressure going through the lines...
hashmasta-kut
02-24-2010, 06:16 PM
Blow a bubble as round as possible , heat the bubble evenly and mash with paddle on pad making sure to keep it parallel and your tube centered , now heat a small spot in middle of flat spot , puff this out to a thin mound , now repeat on other side . You should have a flying saucer almost , a disk with a thin mound on each side .
Now pop the tips of the mounds ,
i saw a donut tech the opposite of that pretty much, you make your flat ball, then heat both sides in the middle with apointy flame, then suck them in to touch. you get a flat spot the size of a knickel or quarter maybe, then you just flame cut that centerpiece out and you instantly got yer donut. seems easier maybe hey? just putting this out there in case ya didnt know that way.
I make my donuts by blowing a bubble, than make a disc by flattining it with graphite plate & paddle (I also use a blow hose so I can give it a puff or two and make sure its level) than pop a hole in the middle of each side of the disc, than use a bowl push to each hole and make those holes "kiss". ream out the hole a bit and remove some glass if necessary and voila! dounut!
Devils Defect
02-24-2010, 07:37 PM
^Same although, HMK's way seem like it would be good too. I will have to give that a try.
hippi
02-25-2010, 12:22 AM
cool guys thanks for the tips!
i did another honeycombed pendant eariler just didnt get to take a pic till now..was chillin at the inlaws for my b-day woot woot big # 25...lol i can rent a car now yay haha...
anyway i think i proly shoulda put a dark backing color instead of no backing but it looks cool gonna try to make a big ass one tomorrow lol wish i had a cool gold color for a bling bling look lol...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/honeycombdeep.jpg
peace hippi
steak351
02-25-2010, 12:39 AM
that looks cool
hippi
02-25-2010, 01:17 AM
thanks steak! i forgot about this..it was left over color that had from a jar i made and used it to make a lil sneak-a-toke lol..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-25000618.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-25000627.jpg
hippi
02-25-2010, 10:55 PM
hey guys hows it goin... heres 2 combed pendants i did before i ran out of oxy.. i striped a clear tube for these and gave it a twist.. the twist didnt come out in the lil one cause it was the excess color that was left over from the bigger one...
also when doing tube implosions..like these combs if i wanted to flip it and create a lens for it how do i do it with out getting a air bubble trapped?
small one
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-25192003.jpg
big one (the swimbait is 10")
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-25191950.jpg
and both together
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-25191855.jpg
oh and the reason the bigger pendant doesnt have the swirl in it (wigwag) is because when i did the termination there was a clear spot and i dotted the clear spot with the wrong color... also putting the dot on top of the previous dots is tricky...sometimes hard to see lol
peace hippi
hippi
02-25-2010, 11:54 PM
forgot i did this to...cant wait till i get bigger tubing!! i put some green dots on it didnt come out like i thought they would be its pratice..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-25224445.jpg
view of the dots
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-25224454.jpg
peace hippi
hippi
02-25-2010, 11:54 PM
double post
ModderXtr
02-26-2010, 02:58 AM
Good work hippi, keep it up! Im followin your thread all the time, gotta keep up with ya ;) That first honey comb is sweet I wish I could do that..Ive been playing with pipes too much and not enough marbles. lol.
hippi
02-27-2010, 04:32 PM
Good work hippi, keep it up! Im followin your thread all the time, gotta keep up with ya ;) That first honey comb is sweet I wish I could do that..Ive been playing with pipes too much and not enough marbles. lol.
thanks modder!.. i need to start playin with pipes more lol...i guess im proly waiting for a kiln for that though... heres a new honeycombed pendant i did..i wasnt able to get my tank filled today so i used the lil bit i had left this is the biggest combed pendant ive done so far...i striped 25mm tube and blew it out thin and dotted...this pendant is exactly 2"
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2INCHCOMBED.jpg
hippi
02-27-2010, 11:52 PM
heres the back side
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/bighoneycomb.jpg
steak351
02-28-2010, 01:00 AM
that one is really cool i love the colours
i have made my first spoon yesterday ill post it in my thread and i read the donut thing and tried one out, you gotta do it too its really not that complicated i covered a bubble in nfrit and did the pop-kiss-ream method mentioned earlier
the first one broke while cooling the second stayed intact i also wanna try out the combs they look so cool
greetings frank
hashmasta-kut
02-28-2010, 10:33 AM
^Same although, HMK's way seem like it would be good too. I will have to give that a try.
its not my way, its Deppes' way, as far as i seen it first referenced.
hippi
03-01-2010, 11:01 AM
woooooooo! super excited! just ordered my phantom 4-stud!!!!!! and its getting shipped out today! thanks chris! i cant wait lol...ill also have a practily brand new Cheetah for sale...lol
sorry im extied that i dont have to wait 6 weeks for a new torch lol
CheeseNip
03-01-2010, 11:20 AM
sweets man, your gonna love it! phantoms are great torches. i know i love mine!
hashmasta-kut
03-01-2010, 01:16 PM
i dont think you were taxing your cheetah at all, but upgrading is not a bad thing by any means.
hippi
03-01-2010, 02:03 PM
i dont think you were taxing your cheetah at all, but upgrading is not a bad thing by any means.
lol no i never opened the valves all the way on the cheetah.. i cranked them up when i needed the extra heat but...i had the money the wife said ok so i jumped on it while i could lol... now i just gotta sell or trade the cheetah for a kiln lol..
TheGlassTree
03-01-2010, 02:27 PM
Shoulda bought a kiln instead.... Just my two cents worth.....
Congrats HIpp! ur gonna love the torch its amaaaaazing.
~J
bzglass
03-01-2010, 03:44 PM
Congrats hippi on the new torch, you will be able to accomplish things you never could with the Cheetah, especially detailed stuff.
NUBBLET
03-01-2010, 03:55 PM
he will sell the cheetah and get a kiln , right hippi ?
hippi
03-01-2010, 03:59 PM
thanks guys! i know im gonna have fun with this especially when i get a foot pedal for it...
as for as i shoulda got a kiln instead...i dont see why? i mean i thought about it but i figured i know i can sell the cheetah and id only have to add like 300$ to get the f120.. so i will have a kiln...it will give me time to learn the phantom
berning
03-01-2010, 04:08 PM
with a good kiln i'll rock my national 3a (really slowly)...........take away my kiln and give me a phantom and i'm awfully limited. but to each his own.
hippi
03-01-2010, 04:44 PM
with a good kiln i'll rock my national 3a (really slowly)...........take away my kiln and give me a phantom and i'm awfully limited. but to each his own.
true.... but you got the skills to pay the bills lol im still learning the skills...i can deal with the fiber blanket for a few more weeks... once the cheetah is sold ill buy a kiln... then ill be good to go.. i know what you mean about not having a kiln limiting me.. youll see that in the pic i post in a few lol its hard keeping the honeycomb warm in the flame in one hand and "try" to make the jar in the other hand...total F-up haha
i thought about it a lot trust me...i just look at it as i can get the 7-800$ faster then i can get 1200.. now if i had a national instead of a cheetah to start with id definitely buy the kiln cause i cant sell the National for 500 lol..tax return helps to...
finally had time to fill my oxy tank today tried to make a jar with a honeycomb base but i totally failed it...need hvy wall tubing (ordering more glass this week as well). then with the excess color left from the combed based jar i tried to make i did a smaller honeycombed pendant so i wasnt being wasteful lol...man i gotta get off the honeycomb craze...lol i guess i just like the way they look and people buy them quick around here..
peace hippi
NUBBLET
03-01-2010, 04:58 PM
theres ways around a kiln , at least for temporary , there is no way around a torch . I know hippi , you have a torch , but I think its a good choice , she may not let that much go next week get it while you can .
Hot plate , crock pot and vermi or even build your own .
My first "kiln" was a hot plate burner ran from burner to a lil box of fire brick , just placed bricks in shape of box with a slit in side to put the burner part in and had me a lil "kiln" . The burner will get hot enough to stick boro to it so dont lay your shit right on the element , had to chunk some off the stove once .
hippi
03-01-2010, 06:02 PM
heres the failed jar...just pulled it off the tube and said fuck it..
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/failedjar.jpg
and heres the pendant
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/newpendant.jpg
berning
03-01-2010, 06:27 PM
point taken .....flame on
hippi
03-02-2010, 01:46 PM
just did my first successful restriction!!! i messed up the bowl though lol...i shouldnt of bought the bowl push with the nipple on it...im thinkin of cuttin it off cause if it doesnt go in the hole perfect it stretches it... ill post some pix when it cools down... looks like i got something to take me off of the honeycomb craze lol...
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