Eric S
07-04-2010, 10:36 AM
thanks dude at ABR......
I ordered GonG from abr a few months ago, and didnt like that the simax were 4.92 or something so i called em up and asked if i could get a discount on 100. To my mild surprise ross answered the phone, and i said, can i get a deal on these simax gon g, he says, sure thing, i can do 100 for 1$ each. i said YEAH and ordered 150. they came, i used them, i went to order some more recently, and get a regular employee. i say, can you hook up the simax and he says NO no matter how many you buy you're not getthing them for less than like 3.50 and thats at 200+ but hey we got these chinese ones here that i can do for 1$ each if you get 500+??
I tried to explain the sitch, and the best we could come up with is that i orignally asked for simax and ross hooked me up with the chinese without mentioning thats what i was getting. - awesome
ANYWAYS i ordered the chinese this time cause i didnt have much $$ and got 100 14 and 100 19. THEY ARE NOT ROUND! I didnt notice until i had already used like 30 of them cause i was using a graphite holder for the 14's and a 19 female prepped up but w/ graphite tape so they were snug. i couldnt feel the wobble, but when i tested them in finished pieces..... i'm not sure if they're not round, or if the taper is a different angle than the females, but these slides do not fit snugly and securely into females. Its like the bottom is too wide and contacts the female joint before the rest of the texture touches, so they ALL wobble.
Better than the wobble, is that they are straight up different sizes. some of them have 2-3-4 mm of frost sticking out of the female, and so far at least 1 finished piece has come out too small to get suction in a female?? I used the graphite holder to make it so didnt notice, then when the slide was finished i tried to put it in a piece and the joint was too small, slide right into the female up to the piece, even if you hold it in it wont fit snug and airtight. WTF????
IN conclusion, I should have expected this from chinese joints, and thats why i shyed away from them in the beginning, and tried not to order them. In my second ABR conversation, the guy on the phone says, EVERYBODY is getting these chinese ones, and they all really like them. they dont have problems, and everyone says they work just as well as the simax ones. we'll probably discontinue the simax ones soon because nobody likes how expensive they are...
SO has anyone else had this issue with these chinese joints?? where do you get the hookup on simax joints?? or UST? are they consistent? i dont imagine it could be any worse than what i've got...
I ordered GonG from abr a few months ago, and didnt like that the simax were 4.92 or something so i called em up and asked if i could get a discount on 100. To my mild surprise ross answered the phone, and i said, can i get a deal on these simax gon g, he says, sure thing, i can do 100 for 1$ each. i said YEAH and ordered 150. they came, i used them, i went to order some more recently, and get a regular employee. i say, can you hook up the simax and he says NO no matter how many you buy you're not getthing them for less than like 3.50 and thats at 200+ but hey we got these chinese ones here that i can do for 1$ each if you get 500+??
I tried to explain the sitch, and the best we could come up with is that i orignally asked for simax and ross hooked me up with the chinese without mentioning thats what i was getting. - awesome
ANYWAYS i ordered the chinese this time cause i didnt have much $$ and got 100 14 and 100 19. THEY ARE NOT ROUND! I didnt notice until i had already used like 30 of them cause i was using a graphite holder for the 14's and a 19 female prepped up but w/ graphite tape so they were snug. i couldnt feel the wobble, but when i tested them in finished pieces..... i'm not sure if they're not round, or if the taper is a different angle than the females, but these slides do not fit snugly and securely into females. Its like the bottom is too wide and contacts the female joint before the rest of the texture touches, so they ALL wobble.
Better than the wobble, is that they are straight up different sizes. some of them have 2-3-4 mm of frost sticking out of the female, and so far at least 1 finished piece has come out too small to get suction in a female?? I used the graphite holder to make it so didnt notice, then when the slide was finished i tried to put it in a piece and the joint was too small, slide right into the female up to the piece, even if you hold it in it wont fit snug and airtight. WTF????
IN conclusion, I should have expected this from chinese joints, and thats why i shyed away from them in the beginning, and tried not to order them. In my second ABR conversation, the guy on the phone says, EVERYBODY is getting these chinese ones, and they all really like them. they dont have problems, and everyone says they work just as well as the simax ones. we'll probably discontinue the simax ones soon because nobody likes how expensive they are...
SO has anyone else had this issue with these chinese joints?? where do you get the hookup on simax joints?? or UST? are they consistent? i dont imagine it could be any worse than what i've got...