How much for these

[Bluebird]

How much could I sell these wholesale? Spoons are 3" and that other one is 4 1/4.

[bzglass]

THey are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them.

$5-$10 for each of them.
The 2 piece shirly, I would give to a freind or something. When I was getting started, I never tried selling second quality work. But your freinds will love to have something new from you, generally freinds will really dig the stuff that you put a lot of energy into. This of course is only my .02 so take it for what it's worth.

[berning]

i've been struggling with this question and bz's response for the past couple days.
going back through 16 months of pics and a number of boxes of saved things. i've realized that most of the stuff isn't as nice as thought it was, and in general i was asking too much.

[Bluebird]

Much respect thank you.

[TwoTimes]

What do you think its worth? Depending on the shop and what they carry the price will vary. Make more and bring them around town and see what you can get for them. Your work will always get better and you can always make more. Good job man.

[sacredhaze]

Those spoons look nice.

Around my area there is a high demand but a very low supply for glass. Mainly it is filled with imports.

So those spoons would sell for 30-35$ in a shop. Therefore around here I would ask the shop owner for 13$ each and tell him to price them around 30$.

The sherlock looks neat with the horns, but needs to be a little cleaner to put on a top shelve display case. I would ask a friend for 20 bucks for it or trade for something to use while on a safety break or when you are re-heating something in the kiln. That is what I do with most of my pieces that don't make it into my case, they are for trade and give away.

Now, as your work gets cleaner and faster you can raise the price a bit and the shop should not have a problem paying more for better work that they can ask more for. Add horns, ribbon canes, marbles, water filtration, snorkel carbs, opals, etc, etc.

GOOD LUCK

[bzglass]

Around my area there is a high demand but a very low supply for glass. Mainly it is filled with imports.

So those spoons would sell for 30-35$ in a shop. Therefore around here I would ask the shop owner for 13$ each and tell him to price them around 30$.

GOOD LUCK

That is awesome, You must be making bank out there.

But retail should only be a 100% mark-up. If you wholesale to a shop at $13- they should sell for $26, ensuring that more glass moves at good prices. If they will sell all day at $30-$35 then you should be asking $15-$17.5 respectively.

[sacredhaze]

I see what you are saying. Sometimes it helps you sell a whole case if you show the shop that they can make some good cash and keep them coming back for more orders. Just start higher than what you want and work down to what you are truly happy with getting. Really I don't know much about sales yet but hopefully I will be filling orders on the daily !!!

[jusbag]

Yeah I would say 10 bucks for the spoon. Maybe 8 at some sort of quantity/minimum order.

I would try using about half as much glass for the mouthpiece of the shirly. And add it to the can. If you get em nice and clean they will probably fetch 20 bones.

Good luck!

[Bluebird]

Nice! Thanks guys. I really appreciate your support.

[sacredhaze]

Oh, another quick thing I thought of. Don't show up with just 3-4 pieces. Go buy a padded rifle case for about 15 dollars, call and make an appointment with someone that has buying power, shower and clean up nice. Show up with the whole case filled with various colors and styles of your work. Try to organize them nicely. This should help you move some inventory. Hope they buy it all.

[Albino Sasquatch]

and i noticed on your horns try and keep them sharp but not so sharp they are going to stab you a couple of them look a little scary but hey man i like the looks keep it up! and i agree it has to do with your area i mean if your in a high demand place with little glass you can get 12-15 eazy like up here in alaska but if i was still down in oregon i would be lucky to see 8 and 10.

[justiceglass]

But retail should only be a 100% mark-up. If you wholesale to a shop at $13- they should sell for $26, ensuring that more glass moves at good prices.

i sure wish this was the way shop owners marked up glass around here... Retail should only be 100% but most shop owners around here shoot for 300%...... then us pipers get it in the ass while the owners are making double what i made off the sale.. i hate cleveland...:wes:

[KT-Old School Glass]

i sure wish this was the way shop owners marked up glass around here... Retail should only be 100% but most shop owners around here shoot for 300%...... then us pipers get it in the ass while the owners are making double what i made off the sale.. i hate cleveland...:wes:

That is pretty much the way it is around here too.

I'd say the spoon should wholesale from $10-$12. The sherlock could use some work. It looks like there may be some sharp angles at the stem/can connection. I also agree that some of the horns look like they could slice your hand.

[themoch]

one shop in boston would buy my work for $7-$15 and then i would come in a week later or so just to check up on things and it would be on sale for $85-$100


made me pretty much stop dealing with that shop. but that was years ago, my work is much better now, maybe i could get more for my shit now :-D

[Bluebird]

Wish we could unionize. Sounds like were the chinese in america.

[MPGB]

The best advice I can give is don't sell yourself short. On the other hand don't ask too much.

There was a really good thread about figuring out pricing. I will try to find it.

Btw. You are really improving from the last time you asked about your pricing. Keep up the good work and progress!

[MPGB]

http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33387&page=2

The 33rd post (second page halfway down) by rockstar glass is awsome!!

[Bluebird]

What about these?

[themoch]

clean up the shapes and you could possibly get 15-20.

if i were you i'd focus on just some clear ones until your shapes got better, the cleanliness of the profile will help you in the long run.

don't worry about attaching horns right now, possibly go for some dots or something so that you can add decoration but not take away from the piece.

try to get 5-10 spoons all in the same size with the same level of detail, then move on to the more advanced stuff like end caps and weaving.

[Architeuthis dux]

clean up the shapes and you could possibly get 15-20.

if i were you i'd focus on just some clear ones until your shapes got better, the cleanliness of the profile will help you in the long run.

don't worry about attaching horns right now, possibly go for some dots or something so that you can add decoration but not take away from the piece.

try to get 5-10 spoons all in the same size with the same level of detail, then move on to the more advanced stuff like end caps and weaving.

He keeps telling me the same thing too! But you know what, it worked!

[hashmasta-kut]

i hate people telling you just to use clear, it makes me sick.

[Bluebird]

Thanks you guys. I will work more and more on doing it right. I get impatient and want to work fast. I will take my time and try and make em clean. It's a bitch trying to work these pipes with a redmax. But I know the torch isn't to blame.

[frillcappa]

i agree your shapes can be improved, that said, they are not bad. if you can get 15 for them, thats a good price, and then when your shapes improve, which they will in no time, ask for 20 bucks per pipe. depending how long they take you, 20 bucks is a great price for a prodo pipe on your part. i get 15 currently, and am happy with this.

[Bluebird]

Can somebody show me what a clean pipe looks like? I would really appreciate it. Shoot me a pic or a link please.

[bzglass]

Can somebody show me what a clean pipe looks like? I would really appreciate it. Shoot me a pic or a link please.

No pics, but here is the basic concept.
Eventually you will get to a point that every piece you do of a particular line looks exactly the same. All your restrictions are the same and every bowl push, is exactly centered. You begin to notice that your work in general is so much cleaner than your earlier stages of development.

[bzglass]

Thanks you guys. I will work more and more on doing it right. I get impatient and want to work fast. I will take my time and try and make em clean. It's a bitch trying to work these pipes with a redmax. But I know the torch isn't to blame.

Uh, your torch is more to blame than you realize.
Authorized Redmax Hater

[MPGB]

"I hate people telling you just to use clear, it makes me sick."

Why?

Unless he's got money to spend it's a good practice. I have been working with clear and sell items with a good bright fume for the same as a color piece. Yeah my skills aren't mastery but I'd rather get work on fuming and perfect my seals rather than practicing on color.

[Bluebird]

What do you guys think about the shapes of these?

[Albino Sasquatch]

hey blue bird i pmd you and dont listn to HMK the clear with some fume and dots or rakes maybe and you will still be able to see and work on your shaping from what i can see you need to let the heat really soak in on the stretch and then when it condencing down you slowly let your arms move apart not even really pulling. giv it a try a few times and you will see what i mean.

[hashmasta-kut]

"I hate people telling you just to use clear, it makes me sick."

Why?

Unless he's got money to spend it's a good practice. I have been working with clear and sell items with a good bright fume for the same as a color piece. Yeah my skills aren't mastery but I'd rather get work on fuming and perfect my seals rather than practicing on color.


i have seen that so many times. its kinda boring to work with just clear, why not jazz it up a little? i bought on sale odds to start with, so it didnt seem like i was throwing that much money away. maybe 20-50 bucks was wasted, omg! i dunno, i used color from day one, cuz my sister gave me a piece of tenmm clear tube and a bunch of color scraps, and i went to town on it with my butane torch :D

i love to make clear fumey pieces, and dont actually have a real hatred for clear, i just think it should be ones choice when they do or dont use it. when people says make 200 clear spoons in a row all the same, i just cant imagine that tediousness. its good advice though to do simple stuff, and work on the basics. read bandhus book, first volume :)

[hashmasta-kut]

What do you guys think about the shapes of these?


lookin good, maybe a little stubby. could be stretched out a teeny bit more in the middle, those fumey ones at the bottom.

[bzglass]

The one on the bottom looks more condensed(thicker than the others). Shop owners like thicker, and you can get more dough for thicker glass.

The more you make the easier it will get to achieve what you have in mind. You may have to do a hundred of them before they are all coming out just how you want them to. It's all about practice, the more you make the better you get.(you just learn new things or ways with every one you make.)

What you have is def. sellable, but don't get hung up on pricing.

[Bluebird]

Nice!!! Thanks you guys. If it werent for you guys I would continue to make garbage.

[themoch]

i hate people telling you just to use clear, it makes me sick.

sure, you can use all the color you want... nobody is stopping you.

But to see into the piece to know what is going wrong when you're learning is a great thing, this isn't a cost issue, it's a learning issue.

go get some black tubing and let me know how easy it is to see inside when you're doing arm to can welds... unless you've done it out of something you can see through you'll never understand the process and just how much heat it takes.

until i started doing stuff out of clear i always thought my welds were solid, boy was i wrong.

again to recap:

clear for learning not money saving...

also, the latest pics look good, keep it up.

[broken glass]

I think it is better for shaping to pull the stem till you have one size tube extending from the bowl shape, then blow a maria on the end. This is the shape i used to do for i/o spoons. Keep on tourching