View Full Version : foot pedals - please share your experiences
faded
11-19-2010, 09:42 PM
i'm in the market for a new pedal for my mirage. i have searched the sight and found a lot of older info. there is a current thread running on how to DIY, but i'm more interested in buying a prebuilt pedal. i prefer mechanical as opposed to electric. i am looking for any input, from all areas. right now i am looking at a rock-it. i like the compactness of it and the simplicity of how it operates. i have a week or so to decide so i'm trying to learn as much as i can before spending my money. thank you all for your insight.
CripSkillz
11-19-2010, 09:45 PM
do it.. if thats what ya want buy it.. other wise make your electric one or buy one,, up to you.. or do you just want us to make up your mind for you.. lol
sounds like you know what you want already..
faded
11-19-2010, 09:48 PM
do it.. if thats what ya want buy it.. other wise make your electric one or buy one,, up to you.. or do you just want us to make up your mind for you.. lol
sounds like you know what you want already..
i was actually just looking for some personal experiences. do YOU have a pedal? do you like it? what type is it? if you had to do it over would you use the same one? things like this.
i have made NO decision as of yet. kinda why i started the thread.
I have been making some nice ones for a bit now. Inexpensive, compact, safe and they have the best warranty for a pedal I have seen. You can buy mine through Sundance, the Cornerstone or directly from me. I offer a bunch of options. That said, buy the one you like best. Go test run a few and see what works for you. Do you want to have to keep your foot on the switch? Do you want it to click on/ click off? Do you want oxy bypass?
I personally would not want to go with out one. They save fuel and time.
CripSkillz
11-19-2010, 09:56 PM
Ya i love mine,, I like electric cuz I can put my switch any where,, eaiser pluming,, too prob,, wont have to have your gas lines on the floor... thats my 2cents,, ;)
ALIEN!
11-19-2010, 10:18 PM
I like my electric, but have tried a mechanical one, a rock-it I believe, liked that too, really liked the fact there was no electrical stuff to worry about dying.
faded
11-19-2010, 10:35 PM
I have been making some nice ones for a bit now. Inexpensive, compact, safe and they have the best warranty for a pedal I have seen. You can buy mine through Sundance, the Cornerstone or directly from me. I offer a bunch of options. That said, buy the one you like best. Go test run a few and see what works for you. Do you want to have to keep your foot on the switch? Do you want it to click on/ click off? Do you want oxy bypass?
good questions.
i'm thinking mechanical simply because i don't want to hassle with plugging it in.
i would like for the pedal to stay on when depressed. then have to be press again to be turned off.
i am not interested in the oxy bypass.
i wish i could test them all. i've never even tried one before. i hope this thread will help me better understand them before i purchase something i'm not really happy with. everybody's input is helping out a lot. i was ready to just throw down on the first one i saw. i'll take my time and make an educated choice now.
:)
faded
11-19-2010, 10:38 PM
Ya i love mine,, I like electric cuz I can put my switch any where,, eaiser pluming,, too prob,, wont have to have your gas lines on the floor... thats my 2cents,, ;)
i'm kinda liking this idea. who needs a "foot" pedal anyways. :chilling:
i often sit up on my tall stool so my feet aren't always on the floor. maybe something i could bump with my knee.
thank you. :)
I offer a toggle switch model. And a toggle switch can be wired easily to any electric control box...
smolder holder
11-20-2010, 12:39 AM
LTD your pedal got here today I've gotta get it at the post office in the AM. Looking forwardc to checking out your handywork.
LTD your pedal got here today I've gotta get it at the post office in the AM. Looking forwardc to checking out your handywork.
Kick ass!! Give me a call if you need any help setting it up. There is a diagram on the sundance site.
I have a tophat mechanical pedal. works great, no problems, really simple. love the fact that i dont need electricity to run it. really heavy duty and durable too/
faded
11-20-2010, 01:23 AM
I have a tophat mechanical pedal. works great, no problems, really simple. love the fact that i dont need electricity to run it. really heavy duty and durable too/
where can those be found? does it stay off and on? thanks. :)
ALIEN!
11-20-2010, 02:31 AM
where can those be found? does it stay off and on? thanks. :)
Yeah, they do.
rockstar glassworks
11-20-2010, 07:18 AM
built my on DIY electric pedal for my mirage.
in the short time I've had it running, maybe 3 1/2 months, I've had no problems.
Mine is a click on/click off footswitch.
I wouldn't know what to do without it, it makes life so easy.
Emmett's Glass
11-20-2010, 07:39 AM
I have a herbie pedal and love it. It's a mechanical and been in use for about 10 yrs, no probs.
E
Black Fire
11-20-2010, 10:15 AM
I use the Griffin Rock-it non-electrical and I love it. I was tempted to get the electrical but then I discovered that it uses a whopping 10 amps!!! That's almost as much as a kiln, are all electrics that bad? You can hear those damn things buzzing....
The hoses-near-the-floor issue really isn't an issue at all IMO, it's very easy to rig it so they don't actually lie on the floor but rather a couple of inches up; unless something really crazy happens there are no worries- I've never had a single hot-glass issue.
Yes it stays off and on, and it's built extremely tough- I bang the hell out of it.
BTW, the fuel-time efficiency isn't the only benefit- in fact I think the main benefit is
a much better control of heat-patterns in your piece. It's hard to describe, but the switching back and forth from major to minor translates to great ease in getting the glass to do what you want it to.
petto
11-20-2010, 11:08 AM
I have a smutty pedal and love it. It save so much time (and prob gas too). I have had zero issue with it, had it for about 2 yrs I believe. It clicks on and stays on till you click off.
faded
11-20-2010, 11:14 AM
all good info. thanks everyone and keep it coming.
so far it sounds like any pedal is a good pedal. ;)
Shatner
11-20-2010, 12:10 PM
I love my foot pedal from LTD. I don't know how I went 6 years with out one. I'm on a Mirage, too.
Time: Saved
Gas and oxy: Saved
Win/Win, imo.
Riley
11-20-2010, 02:19 PM
it be cool to have a oxygen bypass, as a second pedal. i haven't been using this older smutty pedal long, but i often need the outer oxy with the inner and its a pain to have to do something manually that you bought a pedal to do.
as far as mechanical versus electric, i think i'd prefer a mechanical on the bench, on the lathe it makes more sense to have electric, as you can put the solenoids closest to the burner to cut down the extra gasses that a longer line would hold.
i'm probably looking at a jeff rogers pedal that daryl at blastshield has setup for the lathe. with the addition of a pilot light, so it doesn't need to be manually sparked.
http://theblastshield.com/jeffrogers.html
jedi glassworks
11-20-2010, 02:25 PM
I use a Jeff Rogers Pedal from BlastShield. They work great! It is a mechanical pedal, but barely uses much electricity. Everytime I see them at a show, they sell out fast.,
Bryan
CripSkillz
11-20-2010, 02:49 PM
OK OK wait a mechanical electric pedal ,... one or the other guys .. lol
Rogers pedals are electric. The solenoid does move, but only when electricity is applied.
I use the Griffin Rock-it non-electrical and I love it. I was tempted to get the electrical but then I discovered that it uses a whopping 10 amps!!! That's almost as much as a kiln, are all electrics that bad? You can hear those damn things buzzing....
10 amps sounds a little funny, are you sure? its probably much less than 1 amp. the buzzing is most likely a result of a power supply issue. i used 12 volt solenoids for my first pedal, they were 1amp each so i used a 12v 2amp power supply, it buzzed when i tried it with a 1 amp power supply, but still worked fine.
Buzzing usually happens from poorly mounted solenoids. They CAN be installed upside down, but they are quieter if you point the coil down, also mounting them SOLIDLY makes a huge diff.
re-vit
11-20-2010, 07:00 PM
i had no clue that mechanical ones were available- thanks, folks! it sounds like i'd like the switch from electric to mechanical.
i have a DIY rig that i built for about $80. i traded the ammo can i was going to use for the enclosure for a sweet little subwoofer, and ended up mounting all the pedal guts on a square foot of sheet metal that i screw to my bench.
the electric solenoids are EVEN LOUDER when they're not enclosed; it sucks. i bet they give off at least 60 decibels of sound on their own.
i use bungees to hold the supply hoses off the floor under the bench, which muffles the sheet metal a little.
Buzzing usually happens from poorly mounted solenoids. They CAN be installed upside down, but they are quieter if you point the coil down, also mounting them SOLIDLY makes a huge diff.
thanks, LTD- i should probably add some rubber washers to my rig to help shut it up, do you think that would remedy a "poorly mounted solenoid?" also, i'll add a bend to the sheet metal to get them mounted coil down.
jedi glassworks
11-20-2010, 09:37 PM
ummm yea, I mean electric...haha...long saturday
hashmasta-kut
11-20-2010, 10:32 PM
the electric solenoids are EVEN LOUDER when they're not enclosed; it sucks. i bet they give off at least 60 decibels of sound on their own.
seems odd. my footpedal makes 0 sound i ever noticed. no enclosure or anything. no sound.
Harry Paratesteez
11-20-2010, 10:38 PM
I might be looking to buy 5 pedals pretty soon here. I may buy a few more if the price is right.
LTD, Interested in giving a quote for 5, I'm not to interested in paying retail for 5. They would just be click on/off style, nothin fancy at all.
I'm just getting quotes at this point, I may opt to build them myself, Just would be nice to not have to waste a few days dealing with all of it.
i got mine in a trade from the old board, 6-7ish yrs ago. can't remember the guys name for shit but he made it and it still works the same as the day i got it. i gave him an old nortel major for an electric foot switch with solenoids drilled to a piece of wood. as janky as it looks, it kicks ass and changed the game. i expected to upgrade one day, but so far has been unnecessary.
Aussie
11-21-2010, 07:36 AM
i'm thinking mechanical simply because i don't want to hassle with plugging it in.
Sounds lazy :D You take the plug and plug it in the wall, where's the hassle?
I got a hot ass tools pedal from smutty and love it, blowing glass without one ... now that would be more of a hassle than plugging it in. It's quiet, it works well, no leaks, no problems whatsoever ... it's a party in a box with a light on it. I've never used a mechanical pedal, but I'm sure there's not much difference between a mech and an electric except for the on light and you can take a mechanical pedal where there's no electricity ... and I have to say that I haven't blown glass often in places where there's no electricity to run a kiln ...
Seriously though, whatever you decide to get, you will love having a pedal!
faded
11-21-2010, 08:51 AM
if it does the same thing without power, why get one that needs power?
is there something different about the two? other then one needing power.
seems silly to get one that needs to be plugged in when you don't really need one that needs to be plugged in.
of course i'm lazy, i'm a glassblower. ;)
hashmasta-kut
11-21-2010, 09:38 AM
if it does the same thing without power, why get one that needs power?
is there something different about the two? other then one needing power.
seems silly to get one that needs to be plugged in when you don't really need one that needs to be plugged in.
of course i'm lazy, i'm a glassblower. ;)
well if one could run their system with no power, there would be an advantage to having a mechanical pedal, but as we all seem to need power to run a kiln, fan, and lighting, having an outlet available to plug a pedal in is usually very accesible.
im not sure if mechanical ones last longer or what, that would be a deciding factor. i liked buying the few parts i needed and spending half an hour plugging them all together for my electric one.
TheGlassTree
11-21-2010, 09:50 AM
yup i have one i built and one that was purchased and they both work and respond almost identically the same. once you get one you will wonder how you went so long without...
I got a smutboy pedal and I love it. I dont know why there is fuss about a electric one. Plugging it in is not a big inconvenience, there's not any noise, and there's no way its pulling 10 amps. A mechanical pedal takes a little more of a kick to turn it on and off, thats about the only functional diference
But a foot pedal will change the way you work, definitely pick one up
Riley
11-21-2010, 10:33 AM
truly the difference is price.
mechanical footpedals are always more, and built to last. not to say electric's don't, its really just perceived durability.
mechanicals will cost $450 +, electrics run $350 and more, but you can also build it yourself for less than $180 ?? (ballpark)
what i'd really like to see is a DIY mechanical footpedal.
Black Fire
11-21-2010, 11:08 AM
"10 amps sounds a little funny...."
For real- said it right on the sticker. I thought it was crazy too, I'd never imagine it should be that much. That was the Griffin electric.
mechanicals will cost $450 +, electrics run $350 and more, but you can also build it yourself for less than $180 ?? (ballpark)
The foot pedals I sell start at $265, and they have a 5 year warranty..... Just sayin
seems odd. my footpedal makes 0 sound i ever noticed. no enclosure or anything. no sound.
After having built a whole lot of control boxes I have found that some solenoids want to hum. When I test mine before shipping and there is a hum I will swap coils around until I find the combo that is silent. Glad to hear you got a quiet pair first time! How did you end up mounting you set up? The way you mount them really does make a difference in whether they hum or not. If you mount them coils up or sideways they tend to want to hum.
hashmasta-kut
11-21-2010, 02:23 PM
its all just lying in a pile actually. i have a dual pedal, so 2 pairs of solenoids and coils. its on a board on a ledge under my torch. i used two brass crosses in my setup.
re-vit
11-21-2010, 10:19 PM
seems odd. my footpedal makes 0 sound i ever noticed. no enclosure or anything. no sound.
you should plug it in.:D that's when the sounds begin.
hashmasta-kut
11-21-2010, 10:23 PM
well i've used it for weeks now. hours today. both footswitches are plugged in of course.
Bo Diddles
11-22-2010, 04:34 AM
I can't imagine why anyone would want to buy a foot pedal instead of making one.
Two solenoids, a switch, a power supply, and some hose fittings... that's it.
I followed the instructions in the original thread; it cost me less than a hundred bucks and half an hour of time. If you're thinking of buying one instead of building one, you may think it's harder than it really is....
I can't imagine why anyone would want to buy a foot pedal instead of making one.
Two solenoids, a switch, a power supply, and some hose fittings... that's it.
I followed the instructions in the original thread; it cost me less than a hundred bucks and half an hour of time. If you're thinking of buying one instead of building one, you may think it's harder than it really is....
I get solenoids and valves at wholesale and it costs me over $100 to build the foot pedals I build. I do use high quality parts though... One reason some folks would rather buy than build is the warranty some pedals come with. Build it yourself and if it breaks, it is broke. If you buy one from, say TCBbyLTD, and it stops working in the first 5 years you own it it gets fixed for free.
Bo Diddles
11-22-2010, 05:56 AM
I used the AFC-151 valves specified in this (http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15256&highlight=build+foot+pedal) thread. They are low voltage and okay to use with propane and oxygen. I can't remember exactly how much they cost, but I want to say around $35 (could be higher, could be lower). I bought a 12 VDC power supply from a local surplus store - I think it was $5.99. I'm using an old foot switch from my guitar amp. Add in the brass fittings, and that's it.
If I build something, the last thing I care about is a warranty - I know how it goes together, I know how to fix it. The valves I used have a one year warranty.
I have used this pedal for hours a day, every day, for over two years. Not one problem, ever.
Not trying to take away any of your business or anything LTD, I just think there are people out there who think this is a more complex project than it really is.
Shatner
11-22-2010, 12:19 PM
Sure, I could have built mine. But honestly, I didn't want to mess with it. Yeah, I payed a little more, but I got to do things that I'd prefer to do than build a pedal.
My TCB has an oxy-bypass (which I could also incorporate), too. I absolutely love it
hashmasta-kut
11-22-2010, 12:25 PM
only takes an hour at most out of your life to build one, but yes you are right, you got an extra hour to do other things didnt ya, what did you do?
lol but anyhow, i almost bought one, and in the end just built it. took longer prolly, but oh well. after doing one, i can make a couple others for friends.
I used the AFC-151 valves specified in this (http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15256&highlight=build+foot+pedal) thread. They are low voltage and okay to use with propane and oxygen. I can't remember exactly how much they cost, but I want to say around $35 (could be higher, could be lower). I bought a 12 VDC power supply from a local surplus store - I think it was $5.99. I'm using an old foot switch from my guitar amp. Add in the brass fittings, and that's it.
If I build something, the last thing I care about is a warranty - I know how it goes together, I know how to fix it. The valves I used have a one year warranty.
I have used this pedal for hours a day, every day, for over two years. Not one problem, ever.
Not trying to take away any of your business or anything LTD, I just think there are people out there who think this is a more complex project than it really is.
No doubt. It is very easy. As I have mentioned a few times, if someone is building their own and has any questions I am more than happy to help! Drop a PM and I'll give you all the advice you might need:D
smutboy420
11-25-2010, 09:36 PM
I don't know if other makers use solenoid pulling 10 amps but if so thats some major juice for a solenoid.
But off hand my pedals use about 14 watts or about 0.12 amps of power when on.
kenefry48
11-27-2010, 12:37 AM
I use the Griffon Rock-it mechanical pedal. It's super durable and well built. It's the only pedal I have used. I have used it on my mirage for 5-6 years now and still performs without fail. I love it. Just my 2 cents worth.
...building a pedal is ez i did it with parts from grainger, works like a champ with oxygen clean solenoid on the 02 side. fear not, its not rocket science, you buy the parts and assemble it. pretty simple.
faded
11-28-2010, 08:21 PM
throwing down cash is even easier. ;)
hashmasta-kut
11-28-2010, 08:54 PM
not much, its way simpler to make a pedal, than most marbles, or even spoons. the time it would take you to make enough glass to pay for the difference would take way longer than just building it.
faded
11-28-2010, 10:56 PM
not much, its way simpler to make a pedal, than most marbles, or even spoons. the time it would take you to make enough glass to pay for the difference would take way longer than just building it.
when i tell people "money is no object", for some reason they never understand.
whoever said i was using money i made making glass? i'm not here to save money. i have money i need to SPEND. why make your own when you can simple BUY one instead? if i save my money, then what am i going to buy?
i bought a pedal. it will be here wed. :bouncy:
thank you everyone for all of your input. it helped a lot with my decision. i believe this thread has a lot of good input from all angles and should be helpful to many in the future as well.
:)
Which one did you decide to get?
hashmasta-kut
11-29-2010, 01:46 AM
when i tell people "money is no object", for some reason they never understand.
whoever said i was using money i made making glass? i'm not here to save money. i have money i need to SPEND. why make your own when you can simple BUY one instead? if i save my money, then what am i going to buy?
i bought a pedal. it will be here wed. :bouncy:
thank you everyone for all of your input. it helped a lot with my decision. i believe this thread has a lot of good input from all angles and should be helpful to many in the future as well.
:)
you dont actually use logic, you just pretend to. its not really even entertaining. well, maybe to you it is, so maybe thats all that matters.
you dont actually use logic, you just pretend to. its not really even entertaining. well, maybe to you it is, so maybe thats all that matters.
?
What he said made perfect sense. It is nearing the end of the year, I am looking over my books and seeing how much 'profit' I have made this year and putting as much of that as I can into new equipment. That is how us business owners in America who pay taxes do things.
hashmasta-kut
11-29-2010, 09:04 AM
it doesnt surprise me you would join faded in similar tautology. thanks, now it is entertaining. :)
Bo Diddles
11-29-2010, 09:24 AM
when i tell people "money is no object", for some reason they never understand.
whoever said i was using money i made making glass? i'm not here to save money. i have money i need to SPEND. why make your own when you can simple BUY one instead? if i save my money, then what am i going to buy?
HAHAHAHAHA! :bouncy:
To the 98% of you who, like me, don't have trouble finding stuff to spend money on and would prefer to save a couple of hundred bucks for 20 minutes of work... make your own pedal. :crazy:
If you can hook up your torch, you can build a foot pedal.
Heck, if you can tie your shoelaces, you can build a foot pedal.
However, if you just can't find anything else to spend your money on, and have money you need to SPEND, and don't need anything else that costs money like glass, gas, tools etc..... then by all means, just buy one.
It's even easier than making one! :D
:o:
:tongue2:
:D
faded
11-29-2010, 11:00 AM
it doesnt surprise me you would join faded in similar tautology. thanks, now it is entertaining. :)
doesn't surprise me that people choose to HATE on me simply for purchasing a pedal.
:chilling:
i have a 787 seadoo motor to rebuild this winter. i really don't have time to be playing around with a silly foot pedal. i do have plenty of money to buy one though. ;)
i went with the rock-it. :bouncy:
i once again would like to take the time to say "thank you" to everyone for your input on this topic. still a lot of good info here. :star98:
faded
11-30-2010, 07:37 PM
i'm very pleased with my purchase. :)
thank you again everyone for your input. now i gotta go learn how to use all this stuff. ;)
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9545/025oug.jpg
smolder holder
11-30-2010, 07:58 PM
Congrats on the pedal she's a beaut! Now get to work :D
Belliott
11-30-2010, 08:28 PM
faded u are a bad man for spending your money on what u wanted. :D
B-Rye-oNeR
02-01-2011, 03:21 PM
I use the mirage turbo switch or whatever it's called. It recently started not working with the outer flame unless I held the pedal down with my foot. I thought it was malfunctioning, then I realized there is a pin that goes thru the pedal near the bottom (horizontally) When I push the to the right the outer flame will not stay on unless I keep my foot on the pedal. If I push it to the left it works normally. Is this supposed to do this? because after awhile the pin works its way back to right, making the outer not stay on. Anyone else experience this? should I just tape the pin or something?
CripSkillz
02-01-2011, 05:49 PM
sounds legit to me,, put a penny on it an tape it down
loydb
02-02-2011, 06:51 AM
when i tell people "money is no object", for some reason they never understand.
My preferred phrasing of this sentiment is "I have money, what I don't have is *time*." Ultimately that's the tradeoff.
hippi
02-05-2011, 12:37 AM
sooo whats up with the bypass or what ever it is...what does it do compared to the reg rock it?
Uriel
02-05-2011, 12:59 AM
I love my LTD with bypass,, it basically allows oxy to flow through the outer face without the outerfire running. you get a 'jacket' of oxy that sharpens your inner and gives a beautiful pure blue flame,, great for areas where you need ULTRA sharp pinpoint flames(I run a Mirage) or a pure oxy flame. The way the Ltd is set up you mount the bypass valve where you can reach it to turn on and off.. So glad I opted for that as an extra,, Thanks Luke..
I love my LTD with bypass,, it basically allows oxy to flow through the outer face without the outerfire running. you get a 'jacket' of oxy that sharpens your inner and gives a beautiful pure blue flame,, great for areas where you need ULTRA sharp pinpoint flames(I run a Mirage) or a pure oxy flame. The way the Ltd is set up you mount the bypass valve where you can reach it to turn on and off.. So glad I opted for that as an extra,, Thanks Luke..
Glad you like it! Congrats on the feature in the TAG ad!
Back on topic, Oxy bypass is a great option. As Uriel stated, it allows a metered amount of oxygen to flow to the outer rings. I have never used a rock it with bypass, so I do not have first hand knowledge. It does seem to me that having to make the adjustment at floor level might be a pain in the back if you were to adjust it often.
Having the option allows you to keep the torch cool when using the inner fire for extended amounts of time.
CripSkillz
02-05-2011, 02:32 AM
it will totally make you blow glass better hippo , you should get it... hehhe
Cornbread
02-05-2011, 02:06 PM
all this talk of time and money just makes me want to speak out. so here it goes:
I'm a DIYer big time. But sometimes, projects can be bigger headaches than expected or what it's worth. This project is a great example. The research time, purchasing time, and paperwork to keep up with for taxes (if that's you) you end up spending a great deal of time creating a finished piece.
I COMPLETELY agree with those that say it can take as little as 20 min to assemble and plug in. I think we would be hard stretched to find someone that would rather spend $200 extra for what requires a couple wrenches and a few min of time.
If someone put the kits together and sold them un-assembled for at cost so we could save $200 bucks in labor of assembly, it would drive a lot of business away from pre-assembled pedals.
In defense of buying pre-assembled/turn key, sometimes people would rather pay to eliminate what could potentially be a big headache. Also, they are buying something that has already been proven (or dis-proven thanks to forums).
ok, ok, ok, i know there are shopping lists out there already made up, but any smart DIYer still verifies things for themselves by way of alternate resources. Even then, you still have the paperwork to keep up with, phone calls to make, and ALL those tracking numbers!! (ok, so tracking numbers is voluntary, but it's like counting down the days to Christmas for me :D ).
I think that everyone here is awesome for sharing their information, thoughts, and hard earned experience so freely. So, Thank you!
I, myself, am still weighing the options of buying pre-made or assembling one myself. It would be a fun project for sure.
Headdi Retti's Glass Art Studio
02-05-2011, 02:46 PM
Damn, been so busy with work, and tryin to build my studio that I almost forgot about the Damn torch control box. Yes this is still very much high up on my list before G day the day all the electrical and venting are done.....
Not sure which way to go either but I've from the start always appreciated Luke's honesty and willingness to help even if you don't buy his product. That's what I love about this forum everybody's willingness to help. We are all in this together and sharing knowledge will only serve to make us and our industry stronger!. I do know this Luke, if I don't build it (and that's looking better and better right now) then you will for sure get my business!!!. Not that you need my business but I have seen how you deal with everybody, as well as your customers and that my friend is why I will do my pedal/tcb buying only from you!!. Cause that's how I like to run my ship, ....light, right , tight and outta site baby!! Whoooooo!
Cornbread
02-05-2011, 02:57 PM
ya. if i don't build one, I'm leaning towards TCB. It seems to be top notch in quality and great in the price range and warranty. still waiting on this next batch of mirages though..../sigh
steak351
02-06-2011, 03:26 AM
can someone tell me something about the herbert arnold footpedals?
frank
Emmett's Glass
02-06-2011, 07:16 AM
can someone tell me something about the herbert arnold footpedals?
frank
Yes, what would you like to know?
E
somewhere
02-06-2011, 10:00 AM
can someone tell me something about the herbert arnold footpedals?
frank
Sure. They are blue.
somewhere
02-06-2011, 10:03 AM
can someone tell me something about the herbert arnold footpedals?
frank
They are expensive but well built.
http://www.glasscraftinc.com/home2/gla/page_9967/herbert_arnold_foot_pedal_gas_oxygen_economizer.ht ml?rid=base&utm_source=google&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=googleproductfeed
somewhere
02-06-2011, 10:07 AM
can someone tell me something about the herbert arnold footpedals?
frank
Waiting to pick up my daughter and her friends from the movies and I'm bored.
Here's the HA webpage on the pedal:
http://www.arnold-gruppe.de/nc/en/glass-quartz-glass/burners/accessories.html?tx_arnold_pi2%5Bitem%5D=866
Emmett's Glass
02-06-2011, 10:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8CAyRQp1io&feature=related about 630 in the vid they talk about the pedal. Sky is right they are blue, well made and expenceive. Mine is about 8 yrs old and in use most every day. Only once did I have to re-tighten a screw. The rubber on the pedal itself is starting to show some wear, I'll prob change it out with grip tape someday.
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Skye Perry
02-07-2011, 09:04 AM
I like my electric, but have tried a mechanical one, a rock-it I believe, liked that too, really liked the fact there was no electrical stuff to worry about dying.
The rockit is the best IMO .I have had a rock it on my mirage for 4 years and just got a double for my mag.The best thing about it is you can set your torch up anywhere it does not have to be close to a power supply and you do not have to hold your foot on the contoller to keep it running. .Scott Griffen is also one of the best companies in our industy .He take very good care of his customers .My pedal had a seal rot out after my warranty was up and he fixed it and shipped it back to me for free.The same thing happened to my wife also and he did the same thing for her .For some reason this only happens with pedals in Colorado and florida and it is not exactley understood why.
steak351
02-08-2011, 11:30 AM
does the arnold footpedal only shut of th e oxigen and propane so i have only the small propane pilot flame or can i switch between pinpoint and meduim flame with the pedal? or is that too much to ask cause theres the big wheel to switch between the flames
Emmett's Glass
02-08-2011, 04:03 PM
does the arnold footpedal only shut of th e oxigen and propane so i have only the small propane pilot flame or can i switch between pinpoint and meduim flame with the pedal? or is that too much to ask cause theres the big wheel to switch between the flames
The foot pedal will shut off the oxy and air and leave a trickle of propane for your pilot flame (there is an adjustment screw for the by-pass flow). I don't think it would be easy to set it up to have 2 different working flames. THe handwheel is what you use to change flames. If your torch is tuned well and you have a pedal, you open the oxy knob all the way and leave it alone. My torch has a nice range of all useable flames. Now I only use the oxy knob to rest my hand on when doing detail.
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steak351
02-09-2011, 08:35 AM
its was redone by the arnold company a before three month or so, its working really nice, and i love the handwheel, i think ill tlak to a guy from arnold at the staufen glass meeting next month maybe they have something used or so
kind regards
B-Rye-oNeR
06-29-2011, 01:02 PM
My MIrage "Turbo Switch" just turbo crapped out. It has always been a bit finicky, but now the outer will not stay on when I press it. It is definitely the pedal itself not the control box or anything.
I cant even figure out how to take it apart, they seemed to use an hex wrench size that doesn't exist.. Has this happened to anyone./ ANy ideas on How to get it to stay down.? I am dreading working without a pedal. And yes I know you can make your own, but I'd really rather not.
irierayray
02-12-2016, 12:42 AM
truly the difference is price.
mechanical footpedals are always more, and built to last. not to say electric's don't, its really just perceived durability.
mechanicals will cost $450 +, electrics run $350 and more, but you can also build it yourself for less than $180 ?? (ballpark)
what i'd really like to see is a DIY mechanical footpedal.
I would love to see a d i y mechanical foot pedal too! email me irierayray@icloud.com.. I'm trying to build one and figure out where to s tart ...Blessings!!
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LooseSeal Baller
02-12-2016, 05:39 AM
I would love to see a d i y mechanical foot pedal too! email me irierayray@icloud.com.. I'm trying to build one and figure out where to s tart ...Blessings!!
:bouncy:
Search around there are some great diy mechanical foot pedal threads here.
Nomad
02-12-2016, 06:14 AM
My ghetto foot pedal is electric. It works well. Sometimes it does not though and I have to hit it twice. Has not happened that much since I switched to oxy cons though. It doesn't really work as good with them. The oxy cons have to adjust the pressure and purity and the flame can go out if it is small. But if you turn up the propane a little before you hit the switch it works. But then you have to touch the knobs anyways. So I am not sure how effective it is to use. But I use it all the time. Just a box with some switches in it and a foot pedal.
BlairArtGlass
02-12-2016, 09:31 PM
Hey guys just thought I'd drop this link here http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?60820-Official-Bishop-V1-2-sales-thread-!!!!&highlight=bishop since you are talking about pedals. Its obviously not a DIY, but its a great pedal at a great price that you don't have to DYI or mess with.
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