View Full Version : GTT's new single-jet torch
AlaskaBarb
03-08-2011, 05:33 PM
Just received the first triple-mix, single-jet production torch made by GTT! So excited. It is supposed to be an improvement on the Smith Little Torch, used by jewelers. Five years ago, I requested a single-jet torch to piggyback onto my Cheetah, but didn't get that. They sent me this instead, because they want to put it into production. Wally wanted to call it the Stinger, but there's already one using that name, same situation with the Wasp. I'm voting for the Alaskan Mosquito!
Anyway, this is handheld, so I'm trying to suss out how to rig it to the bench next to my torch, as I don't have three hands - one for the torch, one for rod, and one for tools. :-/. Would have been nice if it was magnetic so it could attach to the Little Torch's base. Hopefully it won't have the LT's issue of blowing out.
Just tried to upload pics, but apparently doesn't work with the iPhone. Will go up to computer and post in a few minutes. Sorry!
smolder holder
03-08-2011, 05:37 PM
Make with the pics. Sweeeeet!
^^hey i heard about that sweet shit!, pleez make w some pics
Adapt
03-08-2011, 05:48 PM
gah!
nomadcrafts
03-08-2011, 06:02 PM
Dont hold out show the goods!!!!!!!!!!!
Emmett's Glass
03-08-2011, 06:09 PM
Pics or it isn't real.
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Frankie Hess
03-08-2011, 06:14 PM
I didn't think they would ever actually do it!
PICS!!!!
hippi
03-08-2011, 06:26 PM
is that the melta?
hippi
03-08-2011, 06:27 PM
oh and i want one!!!! like now..money in hand...
CripSkillz
03-08-2011, 06:29 PM
sickkkkkkk
FireFlame Glass
03-08-2011, 06:30 PM
How much are these running for......
Adapt
03-08-2011, 06:40 PM
cool!!!!
AlaskaBarb
03-08-2011, 06:41 PM
Price is in the mid-300.00 range. I was given a deal on a special paint job, so I'm not sure what they will be.
AlaskaBarb
03-08-2011, 06:45 PM
Oh, it's real! :D When I originally ordered it five YEARS ago, I requested a single-jet torch to piggyback onto my Cheetah. Wait, I think I already mentioned that in the first post.
The configuration is good for making little connections like Paul Stankard does in his paperweight set-ups, and maybe attaching small parts on a larger stationary piece. However, it needs modifications for anyone wanting to use it as an adjunct to their bench-mounted torches.
Personally, I just would want a straight port, not curved, then I'd cut off 3/4 off the handpiece, and clamp the rest onto the barrel of the Cheetach -or Lynx, or Phantom.
At the very least, I will attach a small steel plate to the handpiece so it will work with the Smith Little Torch's magnetic holder, and just deal with the flame angle being different from my regular torch.
Also was not crazy about the open back end - hoses have a lot of play inside the handpiece - afraid an accidental yank, and it might dislodge the fittings. Anyway, I wrapped some clear cohesive silicone tape around the back of the handpiece, and around the tiny hoses, just to cushion them.
This pic was after I added regular hoses and quick-connects.
smolder holder
03-08-2011, 06:49 PM
That's so cool! Action shots!
AlaskaBarb
03-08-2011, 06:53 PM
LOL, you're so picky!! First, you just asked to see what it looked like.
innervision
03-08-2011, 07:00 PM
lets see the flame on that little stinger.
PyroChixRock
03-08-2011, 07:01 PM
lol, look at us all sitting in the thread with anticipation
thx for the post, barb!
yeah, that would be nice as a center center fire. I want to see it fired up... I think they told me 450!!! kinda steep even for them at such a small guy. Kinda wonder if its even work for burning a mouse's clit. haha lol j/k
like i said, single port center, lynx, then whatever. fuck it GTT just come out with a god damn all in one 10 stage torch and stop teasing us!!!!!!!!!!
nomadcrafts
03-08-2011, 07:06 PM
That it killer i got to get one!!!!!!!!
AlaskaBarb
03-08-2011, 07:07 PM
Yeah, have to run to grocery store and post office before they close but will try action shots later. sorry!
Slimy-E
03-08-2011, 07:11 PM
oh and i want one!!!! like now..money in hand...
dam hippi, you must spend more on torches than cripskillz spends on strippers!:D
smolder holder
03-08-2011, 07:49 PM
Sorry to sound demanding barb. The ! at the end of my last post was supposed to be a ? Lol!
Greymatter Glass
03-08-2011, 07:55 PM
about time!
That looks sweet, let's get some action shots!
Campy
03-08-2011, 09:29 PM
WOW..look sick. I would definetly buy one if they did have a little magnetic plate and a closed back end. I dont see why they would leave it open like that, dangerous...but yeaah this trch is the shit!
ALIEN!
03-08-2011, 09:58 PM
LOL @ 5 years. LMAO @ price. Hope they figured out something better than JB Weld to seal the fuel/oxy nipples for them hand torches. After my buddies NEW mirage leaked all over cuzza bad JB Weld seals I lost complete faith in the quality of GTT products to the point that I wished I'd gone with a Herbie 40mm instead of a phantom.
This little torch is a great Idea and Im sure it works nice, but goddamn I cant justify the price when I can run out and have a Smith in 15 minutes for $100. Never liked the layout of the GTT hand torch knobs either, hand torches need to be super easy to operate for me.
Sorry for the negativity, I am glad that you're glad though. Just not something I'd buy (much less wait any amount of time for)
Skye Perry
03-08-2011, 11:18 PM
Sweet hopefully they will call th e rest of us soon who have also been waiting five plus years for this torch.
frillcappa
03-08-2011, 11:43 PM
oh man, its like a lynx and a little torch had a baby, I bet that is the end all be all small torch tip for oxy/propane anyway, I agree aswell the body could be shaped a little better, It feel like it could be more narrow, and sealed up for sure. Awesome tho
Been on the list for a while. CAN NOT WAIT!!! The timing is pretty funny. Went and bought a hand torch this morning because I was tired of waiting.
Albino Sasquatch
03-09-2011, 02:50 AM
hey luke, whats up the lynx on a stick not quite as smooth as a little smith or gentec?..lol i would think they would maybe give it a little longer neck too, so it works those tight spaces without bumping the torch on the piece and being able to do kiln fixes. bet its super hot though!
Icarus
03-09-2011, 05:23 AM
Kinda wonder if its even work for burning a mouse's clit.
That is an odd odd metric to measure a flames power by.
Bo Diddles
03-09-2011, 05:28 AM
Not if you're into mouse S & M.... it's the new feltching.
What, like you haven't tried it before...
hey luke, whats up the lynx on a stick not quite as smooth as a little smith or gentec?..lol i would think they would maybe give it a little longer neck too, so it works those tight spaces without bumping the torch on the piece and being able to do kiln fixes. bet its super hot though!
I love my Lynx on a stick. The face is just a little too big to get into some of the places I need it to get into. Attaching the disks on the tube I made you is cake with the L.O.A.S. but putting a bunch of horns real close together will be a bit easier with the smaller face on the gen-tec. Probably keeping the L.O.A.S. for larger assembly.
davidwillisglass
03-09-2011, 09:09 AM
looks slick. but how can it replace the smith without multiple tips? i'm guessing it doesn't have near the range in flame size.
Ubatuba
03-09-2011, 10:09 AM
Agreed. Stainless steel tips for smith/gen-tec are pretty Bo$$.
Just heard from GTT. The single orifice torch is going to retail for $450.
derekg0
03-09-2011, 11:56 AM
I'd think with the triple mix you could get a pretty nice variety of flames, unless you are looking for competing with a multi-hole tip? but I don't know what I'm talking about, just random thoughts...
frillcappa
03-09-2011, 12:07 PM
yea, with that outer ring of oxygen, you will be able to get all the charictoristics of the smith tips if not more i would say.
Adapt
03-09-2011, 12:34 PM
$450. wow. might as well buy a used lynx with six clogged ports...
maybe it's worth tho, interested to see what people think once these roll out into the market.
davidwillisglass
03-09-2011, 12:57 PM
i'm sure if i had one i'd like it though for what it is
i wonder if they are going to offer it as a center fire on their bigger torches. that might be cool. it is currently a big change to switch from a carlisle.
l33t:weasel
03-09-2011, 01:09 PM
looks pretty stupid to me - for about 5 reasons. i think they could have done better, and since they didn't i hope someone else will. .. looks like a couple hypodermic needles, a piece of larger SS tubing, 3 needle valves and a handle... when does that patent expire exactly? :D:D
gongshow
03-09-2011, 01:20 PM
it will be cool when we see FIRE.. . that bitch up , cant wait to see pics :stare: thanks for posting AlaskaBarb looks hot:)
^^lol thats why i try to keep my posts on positive vibe side.
ALIEN!
03-09-2011, 01:44 PM
The beauty of the little torches is being able to get a tiny flame that's not a foot long, when you go for short flames/candles with GTT's the ports erode and eventually die. I have some serious doubts about this thing.
goldmanglass
03-09-2011, 09:54 PM
ive been waiting for GTT to make this torch for sooo long. talked to wally about it years ago. Can't wait to get my hands on one!!!
i hope it isnt too oxidizing, and works those little seals all buttery like the smith mini torch does.
Im sure ill get one in 2-3 weeks when i place my order
hahahahahah
goldmanglass
03-09-2011, 10:00 PM
looks pretty stupid to me - for about 5 reasons. i think they could have done better, and since they didn't i hope someone else will. .. looks like a couple hypodermic needles, a piece of larger SS tubing, 3 needle valves and a handle... when does that patent expire exactly? :D:D
you think it looks stupid.....so....when the patent runs out you want to rip off their torch design?? i dont get it... why dont you make a better one?
anyways, knowing willy and wally, im sure it works well.... if there is much issue with the heat going back into the torch from such small candles, im i bet it can be reconciled by using the center knob more to cool the thang down. If they thought it might over heat with regular wear, and all these torches would be flooding back to the shop to be fixed, i dont think they would be too stoked on their new offering. When i get one ill definitely post my .02
Ben Goldman
blazemaster83
03-09-2011, 10:26 PM
first it was mid 3's, then $450.
l33t:weasel
03-10-2011, 01:24 AM
goldman: i think the price is stupid.. i think the short neck is stupid.. i think the position of the knobs is stupid.. and i think that cute little hose is gonna be nothing but trouble, but its the only option in its class cause they hold a patent on "triple mix" ..so yeah when the patent is up u can bet a lot of other people are going to be building triple mix burners .. except competitively for once (i have no such ambitions). don't forget a patent is different from a copyright for a reason, and there are some really good reasons they don't last forever. no offense to W&W intended . this is capitalism.
frillcappa
03-10-2011, 01:38 AM
SO what about the cute little hose is ganna be trouble? and what about the thing looking like a hypodermic needle make it stupid? no offence meant, but you sound like your mad you didnt come up with it... I thought the exact oposite when I saw it, I thought damn, you cant get a hotter flame in a smaller package...Just out of curiosity, do you use a Gtt?
l33t:weasel
03-10-2011, 01:57 AM
frillcappa: i want to be clear im not running any kind of anti gtt little torch campaign here. furthermore i think its going to be an awesome torch for certain people. ones who do small delicate color work. hands down i expect it to beat all other torches in that narrow spectrum of work, and since those same people usually get payed pretty well for that delicate artwork it's not even a bad price for them.
however they are not even on the market and EVERYONE simply cant wait to throw money at gtt, i think many of these folks are going to be disappointed and that makes me sad cause i know how hard the average piper works for their money.
the thing looking like a hypodermic needle doesn't make it stupid. the fact that you could probably build it out of a few hypodermic needles and they want $450 is what i think is stupid.
and no frillcappa i don't use gtt. maybe if they would make the lynx hand-torch available, but why would they?... these things sell for almost as much and from the response so far i think they are going to be quite busy filling orders.
frillcappa
03-10-2011, 02:07 AM
damn, I really don't wanna start and argument so i hope you don't get that idea by my response, but your saying that hands down it will beat all other torches in its spectrum, but you feel bad for people buying it because there ganna be disappointed? just doesnt make sense. The people buying this torch are buying it to do a specific job, and Its ganna do that job hella well. no disappointment there... This torch will sell out like the rest, and people will not have too much bad to say about it like the rest so the price is right. the end
l33t:weasel
03-10-2011, 02:25 AM
ok i dont know how to say this any more clearly. (im not trying to argue) (and this is obviously speculation)
my point is this:
1) its use will be very limited and its price is so high it will only be a "worth it" in a limited number of situations.
2) "Everyone" is going to buy one
therefor
alot of people are going to get a shitty deal.
+ im sad its not a little bit cooler. i really want to want one.
..::peace::..
having all the flames of a smith or gen tec and then some with out having to change tips is tits.
Headdi Retti's Glass Art Studio
03-10-2011, 04:29 AM
Semi-sweeett!...
I am getting one and for what it is my gen tech will see a lot of use still I have fish tail burners for it and custom tips for it already.
What I want this for is to chase glass around a seal in those places where even a little flame splash can cause problems.
And some of the colors I use I like to flame strike little dot patterns and stuff for fun and this little guy might help get those don't know.
And like any other torch if I don't like it or it sits un used I will sell it easy peasy
Clogged ports what I run some flames I prolly should not but the only clogged gtt port I ever get is when someone else drops glass in my torch seems to happen when a major minor guy comes and runs the laser hot blue flame.
davidwillisglass
03-10-2011, 09:42 AM
"having all the flames of a smith... without changing tips is" unlikely if not impossible.
whatever it is, which no one except the person who owns it knows at this point, it is surely useful in some/many situations.
but, it simply cannot have the range of a torch with multiple tips
Forche
03-10-2011, 10:10 AM
I wonder how it will compare to my little torch with a wizard tip..$200
davidwillisglass
03-10-2011, 10:57 AM
what is a wizard tip?
Bo Diddles
03-10-2011, 11:19 AM
"Don't sit down with your magic wand in your pocket."
Bo Diddles
03-10-2011, 11:26 AM
Just kidding.
Below is a picture of a real Wizard tip - in the middle at the bottom between the Wizard balls, on the end of the Wizard shaft.
http://www.partyvibe.com/forums/attachments/love-sex-relationships/4490d1269900635-official-gnome-porn-thread-naked-gnome.jpg
"having all the flames of a smith... without changing tips is" unlikely if not impossible.
whatever it is, which no one except the person who owns it knows at this point, it is surely useful in some/many situations.
but, it simply cannot have the range of a torch with multiple tips
Let me rephrase that.. All the flames and more than you can get with the tips that come in the 5 tip pack. I realize you can get dual tips and other specialized tips. When it comes to the standard assortment that you get with a smith or gentec you can indeed get all of those flames and then some.
Forche
03-10-2011, 12:42 PM
what is a wizard tip?
1.5mm tip with long neck
Cornbread
03-11-2011, 01:54 PM
i want to see this puppy in action!
Ikensel
03-12-2011, 02:09 AM
Congratulations on your new torch.
Observation,(don't want to sound stupid) so many people ready to buy a torch they've never seen fire up. I'm a nooB and wondered if it was April 1st. When I see torches here for sale there is always someone asking to see some flamage and close ups of the candles, even if it's new and you have one just like it on your bench. GTT's included.
Shatner
03-12-2011, 11:33 AM
Can we please get some flame shots?
smolder holder
03-12-2011, 11:57 AM
Cmon barb you're killin us here. 4 pages and no fire. PLEASE hook us up :twitch:
Shatner
03-13-2011, 10:10 AM
Cmon barb you're killin us here. 4 pages and no fire. PLEASE hook us up :twitch:
No shit! You have the torch, you posted non flame pics. Why no flame pics yet?:bangHead::bouncy::chilling:
BrassMonkey
03-13-2011, 04:12 PM
PICS or BAN!
BrassMonkey
04-03-2011, 06:30 AM
Grrrrr!
CoyleCondenser
04-03-2011, 03:06 PM
^^
My sentiments exactly! Where are the flame pics??!!!!!
nomadcrafts
04-03-2011, 03:18 PM
Give Us Fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HDGlassArt
04-03-2011, 03:51 PM
I really hope this is just a rough copy, but after seeing the delta open up... who knows.
Headdi Retti's Glass Art Studio
04-03-2011, 04:26 PM
Maybe embarrassed of flame to cash : ratio. .......Ba,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!..
kobuki
04-04-2011, 02:20 PM
Here's some flames of GTT's single jet hand torch. I just got it and still haven't played with it fully but from what I can tell it is a nice addition and it will come in handy.
http://www.kobukiglass.com/pictures/lnh.jpg
http://www.kobukiglass.com/pictures/flame1.jpg
http://www.kobukiglass.com/pictures/flame2.jpg
http://www.kobukiglass.com/pictures/flame3.jpg
http://www.kobukiglass.com/pictures/flame4.jpg
http://www.kobukiglass.com/pictures/flame5.jpg
The rod next to the flame is a piece of 4mm.
JK
smolder holder
04-04-2011, 02:27 PM
Sweet! Thanks kobuki!
Headdi Retti's Glass Art Studio
04-04-2011, 02:33 PM
Yay pix!......hehh heh heeeeeeee!
l33t:weasel
04-04-2011, 02:46 PM
i like that graphite paddle in the background. can you tell us anything about it?
kobuki
04-04-2011, 02:54 PM
It's actually the back side of my infinite rim marble mold.
l33t:weasel
04-04-2011, 03:10 PM
nice. thanks for posting those pics. the torch looks a whole lot bigger than it did in the the shots at the start of this thread.
Headdi Retti's Glass Art Studio
04-04-2011, 03:41 PM
Iam with you Man Iam digging the paddle!...
frillcappa
04-04-2011, 04:04 PM
Thanks Kobuki, that is one bad ass torch setup, The Kobuki torch next to the Single jet....all matching that is sick
Campy
04-04-2011, 06:44 PM
Sick pics, MR. Kobuki...any pics of the bottom of the torch? did they end up closing it off or leaving it open like the pics in the begging on this thread?
HDGlassArt
04-04-2011, 06:51 PM
Yes. I can't agree any more, it does look very sick in black and red. Wondering as well if the bottom is closed off.
kobuki
04-04-2011, 09:06 PM
The bottom is open. That is one thing that I would suggest that they do different. I would not be too much to put a little silicone to seal the bottom.
One other thing to add about the torch is that it stays lit even swinging it around violently with the smallest of flames.
Campy
04-04-2011, 09:14 PM
^u got some influence over at GTT john so could u maybe suggest to them that they should close the bottom of, silicone in 2 studs like they do the other torches and run a few feet of hose of that...seems like it would make it more sturdy but im probably gonna get one anyway!
HDGlassArt
04-04-2011, 09:34 PM
LoL do you like to swing that new torch around violently? Lol that's awesome mr. Kobuki. Well played and I do hope you give some input over to w&w maybe they'll listen to you.
Cornbread
04-05-2011, 09:27 AM
LoL do you like to swing that new torch around violently? Lol that's awesome mr. Kobuki. Well played and I do hope you give some input over to w&w maybe they'll listen to you.
haha agreed!
CoyleCondenser
04-05-2011, 10:53 AM
Sweet, thanks for the flicks.
kobuki
04-05-2011, 11:34 AM
I wouldn't normally whip it around but Willy said that if I did it wouldn't blow out so I tried and it stayed lit.
JK
Bo Diddles
04-05-2011, 12:23 PM
Is it worth $450? (serious question)
Hmm maybe not considering that a lynx hand torch is 550..
The lynx can go almost as small but can go much bigger too if needed.
But its nice to have another option that is for sure.
Adapt
04-05-2011, 12:35 PM
It looks pretty similar to one of the Hornet/Wizard tips for the Smith. I got one (don't remember which) for $75. I use it in some pretty nasty situations that make the tip take some excessive heat, it has held up really well, but a couple years from now I might need a new one.
$75 replacement beats the heck out of $450 replacement...
kobuki
04-05-2011, 01:36 PM
If you have a need for it and can afford it than it is worth it.
No a lynx can not get as small of a flame. The lynx can get a pretty small flame but it will also heat up the torch.
I actually plan on mounting the one jet so I can do detailed prep work. When I do this work on my torch the torch gets hot.
The best little torch I could think of is a two stage Lynx with the one jet as the center fire and the second stage the full lynx. When I asked if they would make this torch they laughed thinking I was joking.
JK
frillcappa
04-05-2011, 02:06 PM
I keep thinking your joking about everything you just said when you say JK at the end but then realize its your initals... lol anyway I was thinking somthing similar for a future gtt torch, a single jet center, then the lynx, and then the phantom for a 3 stage, or minus the phantom for a 2 stage. I bet we see it in the future
Bo Diddles
04-05-2011, 03:10 PM
Hey John, could you compare it to a Smith Little Torch?
I mean, is it worth four times as much as the Little Torch?
I just can't imagine how much better a tiny torch can get... but I'm fairly inexperienced with tiny torches other than my own.
kobuki
04-05-2011, 04:29 PM
I have never used a smith or any other hand torch. I focused on the one jet because I am a bit partial to GTT and to me the advantage is all in the triple mix. I plan on using this torch for detailed prep work where I believe I can utilized the advantage of the triple mix flame.
JK
kobuki
04-05-2011, 04:40 PM
Actually I did work on victor welding torch when I first started out in 95. It was a hand torch that was mounted to the bench. I think it had a #5 tip that was basically the center fire of a calisle cc. Moved on from there.
JK
Bo Diddles
04-05-2011, 05:01 PM
Right on, thanks for the opinions and pics man.
HDGlassArt
04-05-2011, 07:50 PM
Now, what they need to do is make a 4 stage torch, make a kobuki with single, lynx, phantom, and a larger kobuki outer... that would be fucking killer... in the wallet that is.
Campy
04-05-2011, 07:53 PM
I talked to wally today regarding closing up the end of the single jet torches and he said that there was really no need too and that they were mounted securly up in the torch. i just think it would be a little better if the bottom was closed and had two studs like a normal gtt...thanks for the feedback john
hashmasta-kut
04-05-2011, 07:58 PM
there is not much point in having a single stage single jet really, cuz when you narrow down a lynx all the way thats what you get pretty much. not quite as pinner maybe, maybe different flame characteristics it looks like.
there is not much point in having a single stage single jet really, cuz when you narrow down a lynx all the way thats what you get pretty much. not quite as pinner maybe, maybe different flame characteristics it looks like.
Hmmm... Well the main difference would be having a single orifice as opposed to seven. So Logically the flame would be.... 1/7th the size. There are plenty of great points to this torch. Triple mix allows so many more flame settings than you can get with a smith or gen tec without swapping out tips. And hell yeah it would be a lot better for using as an actual hand torch over a lynx for 99% of what i use a hand torch for.
Bo Diddles
04-06-2011, 05:08 AM
^ Could you elaborate a little more?
Just having a hard time picturing what it could do that a Little Torch couldn't...
I don't need my Little torch to go smaller, and I don't need it to be hotter, so... what's left? Flame chemistry?
Not trying to argue, just genuinely curious.
hashmasta-kut
04-06-2011, 05:13 AM
Hmmm... Well the main difference would be having a single orifice as opposed to seven. So Logically the flame would be.... 1/7th the size. There are plenty of great points to this torch. Triple mix allows so many more flame settings than you can get with a smith or gen tec without swapping out tips. And hell yeah it would be a lot better for using as an actual hand torch over a lynx for 99% of what i use a hand torch for.
i wasnt saying its not a good idea for a hand torch, just that it seemes redundant to have one as a center stage on a bigger torch.
^ Could you elaborate a little more?
Just having a hard time picturing what it could do that a Little Torch couldn't...
I don't need my Little torch to go smaller, and I don't need it to be hotter, so... what's left? Flame chemistry?
Not trying to argue, just genuinely curious.
more punch in a flame the same size. ability to weld micro lace work using cads without boiling....
HDGlassArt
04-06-2011, 01:25 PM
more punch in a flame the same size. ability to weld micro lace work using cads without boiling....
BINGO!!! Great for super tiny detail work that requires a small flame, not to mention the gtt doesn't like having small flames...
Bo Diddles
04-06-2011, 02:07 PM
I'm still not sold. My Little torch seems to be pretty darn hot for such a tiny flame.
I just want to know exactly why the price is justified, when I already have a tiny hot torch (for a quarter of the price). I want specifics. So far I've got "micro lace work using cads." If you haven't used the torch, please mention that fact when you give your opinion. HD - have you used one yet? Just wondering.
I am NOT saying it's not a better torch.... I just want to know why it's a better torch.
BTW, I freely acknowledge that GTT torches are by far the best torches for certain work - but to me, $450 for a micro torch is a joke. Unless it can be justified. Just sayin'.
kobuki
04-06-2011, 02:11 PM
The reason for having the single jet in a two stage lynx is the micro size you can get on just the single jet and having the the power of the small lynx flames. And important for the detail work is having the small barrel size making it easier to work around. I would call this a highly specialized torch that most would have no use for and I am sure I will get away with just having the single jet on its own but is nice to dream. it worked before.
JK
frillcappa
04-06-2011, 02:20 PM
seems over priced, but my guess is that the cost of engineering, and the fact that it took 5 years to develop, and the fact that they could spend that time making torches that tell for 2 grand all day makes the price go up. And just to add Kobuki, Your a badass! lol tell GTT wats up
HDGlassArt
04-06-2011, 02:21 PM
If you haven't used the torch, please mention that fact when you give your opinion. HD - have you used one yet? Just wondering.
My bad, yes that's opinion. sorry ^_^
I have not used one. I have used just about every other torch available on the market. Used a Lynx as a hand torch and frequently wished it had a smaller head and a smaller flame. I do have one on order. As soon as I have mine I will be writing up a detailed review.
Bo Diddles
04-06-2011, 02:49 PM
^ A direct comparison with other micro torches would be sweet.
Not sure if this is safe to use but I found a cool flame on the lynx after a cleaning. I turned it up way crazy to blow out the particulates. Single jet lynx flame, probably not safe but maybe for short periods.
If the handtorch can do this type of flame safely then its probably worth the price.
^ A direct comparison with other micro torches would be sweet.
Most definitely. I have a Gen Tec and there are a few Smiths in the shop. I will also be checking out the Carlisle hand torch against it (looks like an over built natty...). I already have a pretty strong opinion as to which is a better hand torch between the Gen Tec and the Smith. I also would love to get my hands on a Meco midget to test. No one had one in stock with the tips I wanted, this is why I have a Gen Tec. I figure the Meco must be pretty sweet, it is the hand torch Bandhu suggested I buy when we spoke on this topic.
I estimate the GTT single jet review will be done in about two weeks. That is how long I have to wait on the torch....:twitch:
frillcappa
04-06-2011, 04:28 PM
Dom, how the hell did you get just one jet lit on your lynx, I don't get it. Is that possible to recreate every time or was it like a fluke thing?
Rowdy
04-06-2011, 06:04 PM
With your credentials Mr. Kobuki I'm surprised Willy and Wally laughed about the two-stage Lynx, sounds like a great improvement to their original designs. Well it'll take em another five years to work this one out, better get my name on the list!
HDGlassArt
04-06-2011, 07:58 PM
I figure the Meco must be pretty sweet, it is the hand torch Bandhu suggested I buy when we spoke on this topic.
I estimate the GTT single jet review will be done in about two weeks. That is how long I have to wait on the torch....:twitch:
That is the exact thing he said to me today. Was very bad ass. Got to discussing hand torches with other blowers. Surprising they all have the same reaction as everyone here. Eli said he wouldn't see an application for one, as for the price that goes. Bandhu on the other hand said it sounds pretty sweet to get a micro needle single jet with all the flame chemistry of the gtt.
I guess if it's worth it to you, buy it.
CripSkillz
04-06-2011, 08:23 PM
if your a baller you wipe your asss with 450$.. just sayn... lol
HDGlassArt
04-06-2011, 08:33 PM
I wipe my ass all day long. I must be half way there, just gotta find a 450 bill :p
vetropod
04-06-2011, 10:15 PM
Here's what I want - a torch with such a flame, but which can be turned on and off instantaneously. So I can get it into just the right spot, then have heat, then shut it off to move out. So many little places I can't get into for repairs, etc, with a constant flame. I know this is too much to ask, but maybe I need a laser or something :D
Anyways, can't wait to try out one of these torches! :bouncy:
frillcappa
04-06-2011, 10:55 PM
Beastmaster, just put a foot pedal on your hand torch...
Headdi Retti's Glass Art Studio
04-07-2011, 03:27 AM
if your a baller you wipe your asss with 450$.. just sayn... lol
^^^^^Ba,ha,ha,ha,ha,heeeeeee!, Crip Man your definitely baller you probably got 2 of these mofo's chillin under the bench!...=)
vetropod
04-07-2011, 11:01 AM
Beastmaster, just put a foot pedal on your hand torch...
You've still gotta light it before getting it in place.
HDGlassArt
04-07-2011, 11:04 AM
You'd almost need like a premix with an internal chamber with a pilot. I don't know enough about thermodynamics... ^_^ Maybe that's why I don't build fire spitting machines ^_^ I just play with em.
gongshow
04-07-2011, 11:41 AM
cool lil torch thanks for posting them flame pics jk. The 2 stage lynx sounds like a good idea jk.
Seriously tho your the shit J.K.
Shatner
04-08-2011, 09:02 AM
You've still gotta light it before getting it in place.
Use a gas saver and just light it off your bench torch. Just a thought.
LarryC
04-08-2011, 09:52 AM
Use a gas saver and just light it off your bench torch. Just a thought.
All of the gas savers I have used in the hot shop have pilots to light off of.
still doesnt solve being able to point the torch at a spot on the piece and being able to turn it on right then. Lighting off a gas saver or off your bench torch is just like lighting the hand torch any other way.
frillcappa
04-08-2011, 10:14 AM
So you would need a hand torch with an ignition, such as a spark or pilot flame, and a foot pedal
Destrukt
04-08-2011, 11:08 AM
you need an on/pilot pedal instead of an on/off pedal.
smolder holder
04-08-2011, 11:53 AM
^^yup
not hard to plumb up at all.^
Jedeli173
04-10-2011, 09:13 PM
for the informationally challenged melta is a delta hand torch, but i guess you already know that, or should know that since i do and i spend all my time working
Bo Diddles
04-11-2011, 05:21 AM
Thanks Jedeli173!!
frillcappa
04-15-2011, 02:51 PM
Here's what I want - a torch with such a flame, but which can be turned on and off instantaneously. So I can get it into just the right spot, then have heat, then shut it off to move out. So many little places I can't get into for repairs, etc, with a constant flame. I know this is too much to ask, but maybe I need a laser or something :D
Anyways, can't wait to try out one of these torches! :bouncy:
So apparently the Hoke brand mini torches have a pilot light built in! check it out there cheap too
http://cgi.ebay.com/HOKE-STANDARD-JEWELERS-TORCH-PROPANE-OXYGENE-/130428816401?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e29cc11
Eric S
08-12-2011, 12:19 PM
did more people ever get these torches? luke? reviews? just curious. I was checking out the GTT webpage and noticing they are planning on releasing even more new hand torches, also checking out the prices on servicing ($500 to remove head and clean a 2 stage torch??? does that include servicing or do you add $200 more for cleaning the rest of the torch?) and was wondering to myself, it seems like they are doing some new things, and have big plans, and where is that phantom i've been waiting 4+ months for?....
Well I just got on the waiting list for one. Hoping to see it before the Lynx hand torch im still waiting on.
~J
maui greenstone
09-24-2011, 10:18 PM
I had my hand torch hooked up to a foot pedal, nothing special and it worked awesome. Preset the flame swipe through your torch to light and stomp the pedal to stop, it naturally just let the oxy out faster than the lower pressure propane. Never had an issue with it spitting or popping out. Don't remember the brand foot pedal as it was my shopmates extra and I moved out of that shop about 2 1/2 years ago. Point is it worked fine without making any adjustments.
How long is the wait list on one of these bad boys?
How long is the wait list on one of these bad boys?
2 weeks... duh :D
maui greenstone
09-24-2011, 10:24 PM
So apparently the Hoke brand mini torches have a pilot light built in! check it out there cheap too
http://cgi.ebay.com/HOKE-STANDARD-JEWELERS-TORCH-PROPANE-OXYGENE-/130428816401?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e29cc11
that would probably work if you hooked it up to a foot pedal too
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