Made in USA stickers

[Grandflush]

I think I'm going to start putting small "made in USA" stickers on the bottom of all the stuff I make, intended to make it clear the stuff is not made overseas. If the shops/distributers want to peel them off before putting them on the shelves that's up to them but I would think they would want to leave them on.

I'm sure others are already putting stickers on their finished products ? Maybe some shop owners will get uptight about it if a customer sees the stickers and starts asking about the place of origin of the other stock in the shop. I'm going to try it and see what kind of reaction/comments I get.

[fl0werchilde]

amen brother........grrr8 idea.....that's something we should all consider doing : ) let `em know what's quality and what's not :)

[boxfan willy]

We could have a contest for the design. I'd sponsor with some prizes. Buy them in mad bulk and Misha and the crew could sell them back with a small mark-up to help fund the forum. I would be way down for this!!!

Peace,
boxfan

[mistahead]

two of the larger importers in canada here RED EYE and CHILLS both use little canada flag stickers on there shit......sucks

[Cosmo]

If you want to do it, let me know. I'll be glad to give you a price on printing them...

[broken glass]

If you ship some pipes from india, and put made in america stickers on them, technically you are correct, the sticker was made in the us, the pipe was not, but in putting the sticker on it is like having foriegn parts assembeled in teh US........ good stuff. The good thing about importers, is that they have high moral values, and would never put made in the US on a piece not made in the us. importers -->distributers-->oops did that sticker make it there? NOt like I think that it even matters, about 5% of people would pay more for something made in the us.

[vetropod]

From the Federal trade Commission:
Complying with the Made In the USA Standard (http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/madeusa.htm)

Anyone have a good source for "Made in the USA" stickers? Both the *tiny* silver ovals for putting on the product, and the bigger ones with a flag, to put on your boxes?


Wes.

[Chris Carlson]

i put an LA milli. there is no question where it comes from.

[diglassworks]

I get all my boxes and shipping supplies from these people. They've got some stickers that are 5/8 by 5/8" for a pretty good deal http://www.uline.com/Browse_Listing_1217.asp?pricode=wg488

I'd be down to buy some from M&M though if it helped the forum.

[PyroChixRock]

I'm down!

[Cosmo]

Anyone have a good source for "Made in the USA" stickers? Both the *tiny* silver ovals for putting on the product, and the bigger ones with a flag, to put on your boxes?



If you want to do it, let me know. I'll be glad to give you a price on printing them...

:D

[Chris Carlson]

i hope the stickers are made in the usa...

[billtcat]

Anyone makiing little USA flag milli?

Might be a nice touch and not removable


Bill

[jacee30]

Red eye and chills us mostly import glass,NOT Canadian!!

[mistahead]

that was my point red eye and chills import there crap and pay some punk ass chump to put lil made in canad stickers on them. its weird i went back to my home town where im from in peterboro ontario for christmas and it turns out that thats chills home base! ha! and have to say i went into the local"headshop" there it was also run by the chills guys and it had the crappiest products ive ever seen literally drilled bowl holes? wtf? i would have to say that peterboro is the acrylic pipe capitol of the world!! glad i moved from there 10 years ago!!

[Grandflush]

Boxfan Will I like your idea, I would like to pick up some stickers and if it could be worked out to where it benefited the forum it would be great and hopefully the word might spread this might be a possible way to let people know where what they're buying is from.

From a business perspective it seems like it might be a way to(possibly) help blowers in this country retain their share of the market. Especially folks making production stuff where the market has been impacted substantially by foriegn imports.

Some shop owners/distributers frankly could care less who they are supporting(except themselves) but some might see the stickers and feel guilty about doing business with overseas/sweatshop glass factorys.

[chayes]

how about stickers that say: Not made in china - Not made in Mexico - Not made in India
Or maybe a sticker with state of origin like made in ------(fill in your state)

[somberbear]

a sticker like "hand crafted in the USA" would be nice...

and i will pick up a few grams of flag milli if any one make it.

peace
rob

[Sol]

i hate to bring it up..but....oh man.........you really want to put a flag on there of a government that wants you to get jailed for making pipes?a government that wont allow a sick person to chose a natural herb over prozac or ritalin or peptobismol? i am for distinguishing quality from imported horseshit but when you talk of putting an american flag on your art that you crafted outta your soul dont you flinch a little at uncle sams face on it? i dunno its just my personal opinion..made in the use on it is ok by me cause it is, again..just my opinion.....

[somberbear]

why? i love this country... i hate its polotics but i love this country and very patriotic... if i move to canada then i will love that country as well. i live here and take pride , i have friends here... i dont agree with the goverment but the priniciples of this country and the spirt in which it is founded and the force it has.... has earned my respect... but not political contemperay system...

so yea ill put a sticker of origen on what i make.. a heck i can always use the flag millis for 4th of july sale stuff

[Dale M.]

To find a variety of stickers, do GOOGLE search, search string of ... ** "made in usa" sticker **.... brough up a lot of possibiliites...

Dale

[cheng076]

My friends, I have traveled over the worlld for the 30 plus years of my professional life. In those travels I have seen many bad and some good things in foriegn lands and our own land. I have observed that the common man on the street is little different from one place to another. He wants to live his life unmolested, have a better life for his family, and have some dignity.

That being said, the very structure of government draws the selfcentered, glory seeking, corrupt and vain to its ranks. We Americans, as well as a very few other nationalities, have the enviable right to organize and change those structures and politicians until we hopefully get better ones. Most of the world does not enjoy that freedom. There is a vast difference between loving ones country and the principles it was founded under and embracing the political hacks who are in power. Someone once said ...'the true patriot is the one who endevors to protect us from our own government'.

You cannot live a life style on the fringe of what the majority have deemed unacceptable and whine about the inequity of it all. If you do not agree with the 'common good' then you are still free to change it. Your personal beliefs, while valid in every way, are just that, your personal beliefs, and in no way make you a special case or above the common good of the majority as deemed by that majority.

It's too bad, but I believe we have lost that in our country in recent generations. We no longer are taught that after the debate on an issue that we all must support the position adopted by concenses for thecommon good until we can organize a change. Instead, we splinter off into groups of dissenters using chaos and civil disobedience to prove our point is the only valid position; only thereby alienating the people who might be swayed to our cause by rational discourse.
PJH

[borealisglass]

He wants to live his life unmolested

me too---well most of the time--j/k

Anyway-good post! Love that quote!
'the true patriot is the one who endevors to protect us from our own government'.

[Mr. Wonka]

Instead, we splinter off into groups of dissenters using chaos and civil disobedience to prove our point is the only valid position; only thereby alienating the people who might be swayed to our cause by rational discourse.

Great post cheng. I especially like the above quote.

[Sol]

well its not like i hate all the parts of this countrys attitude, just most of itlol...im proud of the country i live in also, i think the usa is where its at, but i am just upset over the way we handle our..one of a kindedness...i for one dont use chaos or civil disobedience to fuel my fire, i think its a step backwards not forwards, i just have to question the act of glorifying a system that i disagree with until that said system pulls its head outta its ass. Honestly i truly think the government used/uses more chaos and civil disrespect a hell of a lot more than i do.....anyway im not totally against this country i just see it as we no longer are guaraunteed the rights we were 200 years ago, its been...chisel,chisel here nip nip there..ok heres your "revised"lis of personel freedoms...anyway im sorry, i wasnt directin it at you somber, i just noticed a few people wanted the flag millis.....

[somberbear]

i wasnt picking on any one... i was just stating how i feel .......

i am politicaly active.. i try and lead an unmolested life... atleast for the most part... i keep my head down for the most part and do what i love...

i support freedoms and i have my political views. and i also try and respect other peoples ideas... and cheng good post... i have traveled as well .. and people are people all over... but this is my home and i take pride in that... but i also realize that it takes alot of responibility and some times the common good runs agianst the grain of me being who i am being as differnt from main stream as i can... but i also keep to myself and try to respect people

the only thing i think i have learned it the need for tolerance on my part and the respect i should give others... i gave up long ago getting people to respect me.

but i still love this country and this is wheres its main and a flag milli or a made in USA milli i think would also add to my art work...

i would also like to state that if you dont believe how i do... your not a non patriot or any thing... its not really my issue sence i can only truely control myself.

[3 rip min]

im with sol on this one... at this time in history i am not proud to be an american....

would i put a flag on a pipe?? HAHHAHA!!! fuck no!!!

[jiminyrootkit]

i love this country, and the ideals it was founded on.....but i feel it has strayed so far from those ideals as to make a laughing stock of the whole system.


It's too bad, but I believe we have lost that in our country in recent generations. We no longer are taught that after the debate on an issue that we all must support the position adopted by concenses for the common good until we can organize a change.

i absolutely disagree with that statement, as i am not a sheep, nor do i support conformity in any guise. supporting such a consensus, particularly in the current political climate, smacks of the jingoistic nonsense the powers that be would have us eat, sleep, and breathe; and i want no part of it. i feel that no person should be made to feel obligated to rally for a cause they disagree with, and particularly not because the status quo has deemed the opposing view to be "wrong". if we were all supposed to keep quiet and support the cause like good little children, we might very well all still be citizens of a british colony.

incedentally i DO agree with the sentiment of the (mis)quote you used. it should've read:

A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. -Edward Abbey


-f
ps. the stickers are a solid plan, it can't hurt, right? but the only way i would use a flag milli is by special request (ie. increased pay)

[Cold Seal]

i put an LA milli. there is no question where it comes from.

not for nothing but i could put an LA milli in mine too.... but for what its worth i like the idea regardless.

whats a government?

[jiminyrootkit]

whats a government?
strange english word, think it translates roughly to "enemy"
-f

[Ravio11i]

To understand governemnt you need to understand that it is based on the idea of politics, which can be broken doen into, poli meaning many, and ticks meaning small bloodsucking insects.
Robert

[Grandflush]

I myself at this point will not be putting any american flags on any of my products, in fact one of my main buyers has requested no red, white and blue color schemes, no patriotic stuff.

I can only speak for myself but my useage of the stickers is not intended to be nationalistic, only for the betterment of the plight of the american glassworker, strictly business. At a root level I don't like boundarys and borders-but it's hard ball in this global economy. I don't think the Indian and Chinese competition is concerned with us making good, fair wages, us getting paid well for what we do.

[somberbear]

unfortunatly i get orders for confeterate flag alot... which being that i know they arnt using it for historic purposes i tend to say cant....

i wanted a flag milli any way for some special orders....

and if these cats keep asking i can atleast say i got some US flag one

[Chris Carlson]

america- fuck yeah!!!

[cheng076]

Woah guys,

Nothing like a spirited political discussion to get the juices flowing... wahoooo!

Sol, You make many valid points. I see an underlying sentiment that reinforces my contention that a large percentage of people these days only look at their particular position without stepping over and considering the opposing view from the opposing perspective. There may be valid points for their argument; Too many, in my view, assert that what the group as a whole decides is best does not apply to them since they disagree. You have the opportunity and obligation to formulate change; not so in many other places.
Your point about the government using chaos and civil disrespect is very pertinent in view of current scandles and corruption in national government and our, in my view, illegal war in Iraq. It again lends proof to the charactor of our professional politicians, which we put there, and their disrespect for the very laws they inacted.

Jimmyrootkit, I do not say one should follow like sheep - no way - but abid by the rules until you can persuade enough likeminded people to facilitate a change to your side.

Somberbear, I had 2 captians on my ship for a few years. They alternated assignments. One was an old school gentlemen with a long family tradition of going to sea, a superb ship handler, calm and decisive in an emergency. The other was younger, brash, head strong, excitable, in your face; but also a great ship handler and his concern was the crew and the ship first and formost which was obscured by his 'presence'. One commanded respect, the other demanded respect... you guess which? You usually get what you give... usually many times over. I for one, having read your thoughtful posts and comments and looked at your work, respect you a good deal.

3ripminute, While I am not proud of my country's leaders I will always be proud to be American and proud of the people this country fosters; exemplified nowhere better that right here with the good works done by these forum members for the less fortunate. Nowhere on earth is there a place where so many diverse ethnic, religeous, politacal, or other groups have founded a country that helps so many, produces so much, and allows so much personal freedom. Sure there have been mistakes and tragedies along the way. But there are many people who work hard and long to correct and molify those mistakes. Some of what we now consider to be oppresion, when viewed in the context of the time it happened were the correct thing to do; as judged by the moral climate of the era. Internment camps, dropping the atomic bomb, and other things that with more knowledge and understanding have proved wrong were no so at the time.

Just my views; let's hear yours!
PJH

[Stagger Lee]

unfortunatly i get orders for confeterate flag alot... which being that i know they arnt using it for historic purposes i tend to say cant....

why can't it be for historic purposes?? I'm not a Flaggot and I don't have a rebel flag on my truck, but I am proud of who I am and where I came from. Just because the Klan uses it doesn't make EVERYONE that has one a racist. Should I be ashamed of being from the south? And knowing the truth about the Civil War.

[somberbear]

to completely get off the subject...

.... really and you can distiguish your use of it over what racism it has come to understand... i dont mind battle fields and historical things displaying it but i dont like people who use it as a symbol of racism..

and sence that is now its main conotation i do not like dealing with it. just like i dont like dealing with meth heads... and sence i am who i am i can choice who i deal with... and what i make... the flag has come to mean this to me and that is why i will not use it till i have something to use it for in my art...and it becomes more then a modern symbol of hate.

until you change how it is used and what it means then i still see it as what people have made it mean.

I live in the south and value its history every day and enjoy it but it doesnt mean i have to live in its history eather.

[Grandflush]

Funny when I mentioned this subject to my co-worker today he reached in the drawer and pulled out a nice hunk of american flag millie cane made by Dave Strobel that's been sitting around for a while. I had forgot about it, real tight cane that would be well worth buying some if you want flag-if Strobel has any left or makes flags anymore.

[gypsea]

the klan uses the cross as a symbol too.....so according to that line of reasoning then that would make the cross a symbol of racism.
just because one hate group MISUSES an icon does not mean that the whole world should accept their PERVERTED VIEW as the main connotation.

[Breed]

Awe man... This reminds me of a local guy who sells glass pipes at the "World's Most Awesome Fleamarket!" in Shephardsille KY. I don't know if they are imports or not.

The whole booth is called "Weapons of War."

A portion of his booth, the back portion, is full of glass.

The rest of it is full of knives (butterfly, switchblade, etc.), pellet gus, swords, axes, swaztika patches, Confederate Klansmen stickers that say "I Follow Forrest," or, "Equal Rights For Southern Whites," and other such things... Then I noticed a copy of The Turner Diaries for sale on one shelf.

That's when I realised he was serious. He believes there is a race war coming and he's supplying the whites with weapons.

Weapons along with glass pipes that is.

[Dichroic Alchemy]

We would like to offer 25 free 1/2" "made in USA" or "made in Canada" dichroic images to anyone that wants it that of course lives and works in one of those places.
This can be gotten direct from Dichroic Alchemy 866-434-2476,.
This will take 1-2 weeks before they are produced so let's say after the grand opening on the 11th & 12th of our Glass Evolution retail store in Eugene,Oregon.
You will need to order something from Dichroic alchemy or GlassEvolution,and we will include this with your order if you desire it.
Most of the products at DA are designer raw materials made here in the USA and marketed only here in the USA.
Call us if you want to talk about keeping an edge in the world market.
This is what DA is all about. Give us a chance to help you.
We can give you an edge by the use of our exclusive designer raw materials to enable a more unique color pallette. We have dichroic tubing(dichrosilicate),and new exotic machine pulled Quantum color tubing.
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Personally to stand out from the import stuff, I would take the high road-Schott tubing-DA dichro-Exotic Quantum tubing-Momka color-imagination= Unique impossible to knock off product. Schott makes the glass shine,and the other ingredients are new american made innovations not avail. anywhere else in the world..This IS the advantage we have over the world-INNOVATION-use it
Just my opinion

Jay Frodo
www.dichroicalchemy.com
www.glassevolution.com
866-434-2476

[Chris Carlson]

great offer.

[somberbear]

great stuff DA glad to see ya on the board too....

when and if i can aford it im ordering off you guys any way... so i hope the bonus is still around when i get there

peace
rob

[Grandflush]

I will for sure visit your new retail location and pick up some of those images. Good offer.

As far as the confederate flag is concerned I can understand why some folks who live in the south identify with that image. It's part of their heritage. But when I see yahoos with big trucks in areas thousands of miles from the south flying it in their back windows I sometimes wonder what that's all about. Rebels I guess?

[PyroChixRock]

Thanks, Jay jay and chris!

[Lithomancy]

i think the confederate flag has the same idea behind it as the "dont tread on me" flag. each flag represents an idea/concept/slogon/way of life etc