vac stacks

[LifeGlass]

I've said this in a thread before, but this weekend I saw both a venturi and a shop vac being used and they work great, just cumbersome.

I use a coleman air mattress pump, there are some that have both inflate and deflate ports. But maybe if you have just an inflate one, you can reverse the polarity, I dunno.....

Portable, small, light, dual purpose, cheap, blow hose fits right on nozzle!

Peace

[Bo Diddles]

Nice tip man, thanks for posting.

[IndiePendent]

LOL sweet brother! I also rock the coleman air mattress pump with an improvised glass funnel to slide the blow hose on and off of!

[wfsupply]

Know any good colors to use? :)

[IndiePendent]

Know any good colors to use? :)

Yup. Sure do.

[FizZle]

Yup. Sure do.

lol

[dudleybivens]

Yup. Sure do.

yup, you know to use the same color schemes you've seen online, still haven't seen an original one from you

infract me for calling this guy out if you must, but trust me all of you have more creativity than he does

[Julian]

Pointless mudslinging is not welcome on the MP.


yup, you know to use the same color schemes you've seen online, still haven't seen an original one from you

infract me for calling this guy out if you must, but trust me all of you have more creativity than he does

[dudleybivens]

pointless mudslinging? someone asked for color patterns, how about pointless sarcastic responses to posts? are those allowed?

[Julian]

Yes, pointless sarcastic replies are not a problem. Indiependent was actually referring back to wfsupply's thread asking for colors on vac stacks, which is a different story, so it might not be as sarcastic and pointless as you think.

[smolder holder]

^^yup not pointless at all.

[dudleybivens]

o ya?


Yes, pointless sarcastic replies are not a problem.

wonderful

[dudleybivens]

/\ how's that for the pointless sarcastic? /\
do I fit in on the internet now?



/\ or that? /\ any better?

[RamblezMarblez]

I like the Ice patterns ....and the ice/fire patterns....and the rainbow patterns...Break out the color wheel and mix up colors opposite of each other like blue and orange or green and yellow.

[FizZle]

try red, white, and yellow...for the ugliest color combo known to man

[IndiePendent]

yup, you know to use the same color schemes you've seen online, still haven't seen an original one from you

infract me for calling this guy out if you must, but trust me all of you have more creativity than he does

This is getting stupid now, and what the heck does it even prove. What are you "calling me out on"... pretty sure I have never said I invented a new wheel or anything, and as far as color schemes go there is common themes that customers like so settle down with this shit. I told you I am not going to debate this crap on the Internet with you. Especially since you posted these things after we talked...

[smolder holder]

/\ how's that for the pointless sarcastic? /\
do I fit in on the internet now?



/\ or that? /\ any better?


Dude, enough already. Your makin yourself look like a total D-bag.

You don't like independant.......we get it.

[wfsupply]

They are both in the same state, maybe they can just duke it out the old fashioned way............

[Lefty]

aw shit. things are getting heated down in lil ol bloomington

[BoroZillacate]

this popped off even quicker than wfs color combo thread

high tension shit latley round here


















saftey break anybody?


















we could get snacks after!

[dudleybivens]

yo, why you bringin up old shit after we already talked? i never posted here til right now after we talked and none of this is new anyway, and the rest of you, pretty sure there's nothing wrong with pointless or sarcastic posts. that's the point.

do I fit in on your internet now? ahahahahaha

[Mecha]

Whoops....

[dudleybivens]

Dude, enough already. Your makin yourself look like a total D-bag.

You don't like independant.......we get it.

apparently you didn't get it, I was making a pointless sarcastic remark at the suggestion of someone who gave me an infraction and besides I'd much rather look like a dbag on the internet than in real life

indie, gimme a call thought we had this figured out

[smolder holder]

apparently you didn't get it, I was making a pointless sarcastic remark at the suggestion of someone who gave me an infraction and besides I'd much rather look like a dbag on the internet than in real life

indie, gimme a call thought we had this figured out

What I "got" dudley is you slandering indiependant indirectly in three different threads that I read over the course of several hours.

Oops sorry if that was a D-bag statement :)

Hope you guys figure it out.

[Slow]

Jack tubes, not threads.

I've actually been considering going the vac-stack route lately; any tips on connecting the air pump to the blowtube? Is one pump more suitable than another (aside from having a suction port)?

[smolder holder]

Lowly worm you should try the vac stack out it's a good way to do your tube prep. I lucked out when I made my connector from the vac tube to blowtube. I made my connector out of 25mm attached to a short piece of 10mm the 25 fits perfectly into my vac hose.

I attach my blowhose onto the piece of 10mm and run that up to a straight swivel that connects to my blowtube. I also popped about a 10mm hole in my 25 mm section so the vac motor wouldn't get ruined.

Good luck with it and if you have any questions feel free to pm me about it.

[wfsupply]

My vacuum is from Home Depot. Its $19.95. Sits on one of their orange 5 gallon Homer Buckets. Perfect suction for vac stacks.

[krzy23lgs]

Yo dudley....the way you act on the internet is the real you....there is nothing holding you back...no reprocussions....so basically what Im saying is your a hater and youlll always be a hater!

[Icarus]

Jack tubes, not threads.

I've actually been considering going the vac-stack route lately; any tips on connecting the air pump to the blowtube? Is one pump more suitable than another (aside from having a suction port)?

I use a vacuum generator that I got from harbor freight. It's like $15 or so, and basically, it's a venturi that creates suction by having air blown through it. I put a cheap little valve before the air inlet so I could control the amount of air it's getting (and thus the suction), and then hook it up to my air compressor and I'm ready to go.

Why is it awesome? Well, it's damn near silent, I don't have a constantly running motor that could blow from trying to pull the same amount of air it's normally supposed to pull, but with no make up air for it (put your hand in front of the hose for your shop vac, and notice the different sound the motor makes, it will also heat up a lot faster as well), and by virtue of the valve, I can have a variable vacuum, so I can start slow and then increase the suction when things are where I want them.

I've got a pretty big tank on my compressor, so it takes some time to drain the tank, and then once it's low enough, it regenerates, so instead of having a constantly running motor, I have it switch on for 5-8 minutes, and then I'm set again for a few more hours.

Well worth the $15.

[Julian]

That sounds like a great system, Icarus. It does seem that when it comes to making a vacuum, there are a lot of options.

The potential for bad jokes is intense also when it comes to this talk about jacking tubes, starting slow and increasing suction, etc. But, apologies for the digression.

I'd like to find a way to create the vacuum with a foot pump somehow. I haven't quite pictured how it will work yet, but it seems like the right thing to do.

[IndiePendent]

Hey Icky! I like this idea youve got going, especially since ai hwve to run an air compressor eith the Herbie anyway.Any chance you could link to the Harbor Freight part you used and maybe post a picture of this set up? Thanks buddy.

@Julian - A foot pump might be more of a pain then its wort, why not just pit your vac source on a foot pedal and therefor be able to turn the suction on and off at will.

[Mecha]

You could get an air foot pedal for a sandblast setup and use it with Ick's setup.

I got mine from Grainger.

[Riley]

^^ me too, homemade glass venturi (compliments to bates), and an air compressor. very variable, i'd imagine more so than holes in a vacuum, or a variable foot pedal. always on the lathe, so no need for anything else, but have tried it a few times on the bench and its no fun dialing in the compressor mid-stride.

[Headdi Retti's Glass Art Studio]

I just set mine up like the tip phatty gave awhile bac ..I was setting up shop and xhaust anyway so I drilled a hole about 18" up in the xhaust and hook up some 1/4" tube which just hang's out on bac of xhaust, on hanger and whenever I need it just pull off hanger already has swivel hooked up just hook up to work and Bamm, now I have a home A/C unit squirrel cage, so its quite a bit of suction a fan in the window xhaust will not work.

Now all that being said you'll have to check with phatty on results, you can check his thread it was in tips or maybe vacstack section.

I still havnt pulled down my on tube yet...cant believe I just said that..lol..anyway it has suction and phatty says it works perfect give just the right amount of suction. Everytime and its completely silent and why waste more electricity when your running your xhaust anyway it's a win,win. I did it cause it happened to be about the time I was working on my xhaust so I implemented so I could take advantage later..and now hopefully soon...

[Icarus]

Hey Icky! I like this idea youve got going, especially since ai hwve to run an air compressor eith the Herbie anyway.Any chance you could link to the Harbor Freight part you used and maybe post a picture of this set up? Thanks buddy.


http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/370x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_3644.jpg
http://www.harborfreight.com/air-vacuum-pump-with-r134a-and-r12-connectors-96677.html (vacuum comes off the chrome fittings in front, and air inlet is the 1/4" NPT brass fitting you can barely see on the back

Add some blow tuhose tubing and one of these from a homebrew store, and it's fuckin money.

http://mountainhomebrew.com/ProductImages/equipment/728.jpg

[Icarus]

Julian, provided you're willing to pay for a NC solenoid and the foot pedal, this could easily be done. Just make a one solenoid foot pedal and pipe the compressed air through the solenoid. Since it's normally closed, the air won't rush through it until you apply power to it via the foot pedal. Once the air starts rushing through, voilà*, you have vacuum.




*fucking diacritical marks!

[Headdi Retti's Glass Art Studio]

Gotta love HF, Man they have about everything... Very nice Icky...

[Icarus]

Julian, provided you're willing to pay for a NC solenoid and the foot pedal, this could easily be done. Just make a one solenoid foot pedal and pipe the compressed air through the solenoid. Since it's normally closed, the air won't rush through it until you apply power to it via the foot pedal.

Also, I would spring for the latching foot pedal with this type of setup. The momentary one is going to be a pain in the ass. Luckily, HF has got those for $15 or so as well. Build quality is fuckin near non-existent, but hey, that's HF for you.

When you need it right now and you need it cheap: Harbor Freight.
When you need it to work well and you want it to last: Elsewhere.

[Headdi Retti's Glass Art Studio]

True ,true ...I got one of there two way pedals awhile bac just cause I had a coupon, so it was $6. I figured I couldn't really go wrong.

[smolder holder]

Don't hate on HF they employ a lot of children in china :)

[Icarus]

I think of the poor chinese kids every time I smell the oil they use to coat all of their tools. That oil smells of despair and hard living.

[Gold Fire Glass]

Anybody live close enough to a HF to be able to pick one up and re-mail it too me in B.C. Canada ? I would not be apposed to donating a nominal " beer fund " contribution for doing this. Frkikken Canada we miss out on all the cool gadgets.
Please let me know i can send $'s for part and beer via paypal.
thanks
"Goldie"

[Riley]

you can make one out of glass. this thread bates shares the goods, post #15, with a pic and diagram.

http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28626&highlight=vac+stacks

i made 2 when i first read this, and one cracked, the other one is still rocking. i attached the compressor end to a quick release air fitting, and it snaps on and off when needed. i realize the HF one is solid, but if you haven't the immediate access the homemade glass one will do you right.

[Icarus]

Rileys right. Give Bates tutorial a shot, if it does't work out for you, let me know. I have a HF on the other side of town from me. I probably won't get over their until later this week, but I can do it for you.

[Mecha]

The foot pedal I have on my blast cabinet is mechanical. It does not latch, but I find that for blasting work, it does not matter.

Wish I could remember the model number or what I paid. It was one of those mad dash to spend some cash at the end of the year purchases......

[Icarus]

No, I'm saying, a latching one in this case is going to be little easier on you. Let's say you want to pull down a large vac stack on a lathe. If you don't have a latching one, you're stuck sitting there with your foot on the pedal the entire time (sure, you can let off every once in a while, but the majority of the time, you're just sitting there with your foot glued to the same position). A latching pedal will allow you to hit it, get the vacuum going, and then let you move around a bit (or use your foot for your torches foot pedal).

Momentary action pedal on a sandblasting booth, now that's fucking money man! Great idea!

[Gold Fire Glass]

Rileys right. Give Bates tutorial a shot, if it does't work out for you, let me know. I have a HF on the other side of town from me. I probably won't get over their until later this week, but I can do it for you.

Thanks a lot Icarus I will try the " Bates " Venturi ..... I wouldn't mind having the HF one also because ....... I'm a tool whore lol :o:


you can make one out of glass. this thread bates shares the goods, post #15, with a pic and diagram.

http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28626&highlight=vac+stacks

i made 2 when i first read this, and one cracked, the other one is still rocking. i attached the compressor end to a quick release air fitting, and it snaps on and off when needed. i realize the HF one is solid, but if you haven't the immediate access the homemade glass one will do you right.

Thanks Riley I appreciate the link . I browsed that thread in the past but completely forgot about it. Time to do some reading .

"Goldie"

[Icarus]

Thanks a lot Icarus I will try the " Bates " Venturi ..... I wouldn't mind having the HF one also because ....... I'm a tool whore lol :o:


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[B-Rye-oNeR]

What's some good size tubes to use that are a step down from the 70mm/44mm that you guys are using. I can't seem to find a good fit . Thanks

[B-Rye-oNeR]

Anybody here? Lil help...? :)

[smolder holder]

50x5 outer 25x4 inner. That's what I use.

[B-Rye-oNeR]

Thanks Duder

[LifeGlass]

I am not going to be using the coleman air pump no mo! I am heating larger sections and faster....need more suction.