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Connor.hassler
06-11-2011, 12:56 PM
How tight is the seal on GonG joints I was looking around and couldn't find much would they be suitable for like say a glass bottle that wouldn't leak?

Dom
06-11-2011, 01:18 PM
Yes they would be suitable.

Eric S
06-11-2011, 01:23 PM
sometimes they can drip water, like if the seal was sideways. also, there is the whole " GonG safety video" where the possibility of glass dust is discussed. not sure if this bottle would be for drinking or storing something else but that should be considered

Connor.hassler
06-11-2011, 01:26 PM
it would be for like a water bottle and what do keck clips really do do they keep them tight or just from falling apart?

ReLo442
06-11-2011, 04:14 PM
Ive seen tons of little bottles with gog fittings used for perfume or oil n vinegar. just keep the bottle upright.

to answer your question, the clips keep the joint from falling off but doesnt necessarily keep it fully seated. If its a good german fitting, or another nicely sealing joint (some of the new indian ones are pretty decent) it will seal pretty well as long as it isnt moved. Any joint is going to have a tendancy to leak if you move it around alot.
just my .02

Swampy
06-11-2011, 07:00 PM
If you put a fine smear of vaseline on the ground area of the joint and turn the joint as you press it into place, that would help to make it water-tight.

gn0me
06-12-2011, 01:36 PM
If you put a fine smear of vaseline on the ground area of the joint and turn the joint as you press it into place, that would help to make it water-tight.

This is truth. Ground glass joints are made to be sealed with a grease of some sort - in the laboratory it's mostly fluorinated greases which are pretty nonreactive and near impossible to remove, but it only takes a little bit. A small dab of anything viscous keeps the seals quite gas tight. I've kept liquid butane in a freezer with a ground glass joint lubed up with orange solid oil (food grade industrial stuff) and it didn't evaporate... the more the same joints are twisted together the tighter the seal gets, as the two surfaces mate together. Grease also keeps any glass dust from becoming airborne.

Water acts the same way, though, with most quality glass joints. In all likelihood you won't see water leaking out of a GGJ, even with significant pressure behind it. The water drying out does leave the possibility of glass dust becoming airborne though. And the debate of GGJ's and glass dust will rage on...

ETA: Keck clips apply pressure to keep the joints together - you can see the taper on the male fitting which connects with the keck clip, pressing it into the female fitting. Poor quality joints don't make the necessary contact with the clip, and little or no pressure is applied by the clip, leaving a leaky joint.

n3rd
06-12-2011, 01:54 PM
swampy i thought you recommended this stuff?

http://www.sextoysonline.se/images/Anal-Lube-Natural.jpg

BombDiggity
06-12-2011, 04:58 PM
swampy told me he swears by this stuff

http://www.analbeadscity.com/media/catalog/product/cache/7/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/I/n/Insertz-Anal-Eaze-10Ml-PD99800-0_2.JPG

Swampy
06-12-2011, 06:02 PM
heh heh Okay well in that particular application I can recommend Chinese tiger balm (http://www.tigerbalm.com/)... 'Works where it hurts' it says... and if it doesn't hurt it soon will :o)

somewhere
06-12-2011, 06:15 PM
Scire you are incorrect. I'm not going to waste my time explaining why. I just can't bear to hear your argument.

Grease joints are just that they are there own animal. Ground joints do not require grease.

Keck clips hold joints together they do not make the seal any better. Cheap joints are just that. Not precision made. Nothing will make a cheap joint seal beyter except regrinding.