Mountain Glass Art's Beadmaking Kit

[ellohellcj]

This kit here:

http://www.mountainglassarts.com/Mountain-Glass-Arts-Beadmaking-Starter-Kit?sc=2&category=177

Any opinions on it? Any reviews?
It seems pretty basic and viable for what I'm looking to do right now. Refer to here (http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=627597#post627597).

I thought about piecing a kit together, but figured this came with the bare essentials, is there anything else I should add to it, if this is indeed a good kit to go with?
Any tools, etc?

Thanks!

[BrassMonkey]

Does making soft glass beads interest you? If so you gonna stick with soft glass just beads? If the answer is no then I'd get a used 3a, shades, some clear and some color shorts. I understand your in a apartment, I'd invest in a oxy con then and keep the propane tank on the balcony.

[ellohellcj]

Making marbles does, yes. But I wouldn't stick with just soft glass. When the opportunity presents itself, I would like to get into boro as well. I plan on getting into boro, actually.

[Frostbite]

If you ever want to touch boro that kit isn't going to work for you. You need an oxy/propane torch, not a mapp torch. Without oxy you'll never get a hot enough flame to melt boro.
I'm not encouraging (or discouraging) you purchasing any of these, but if an all-in-one kit is what your after you need to look in this category
http://www.mountainglassarts.com/Products/DUAL-FUEL-STARTER-KITS

[ellohellcj]

I take that you didn't click the "refer here," link to the other thread of mine.
I'm trying to avoid tanks/oxy/prop. due to multiple reasons, mainly living in an apartment/lack of space
hence the hot head and soft glass until i am able to melt boro ;)

[Shatner]

Blowing glass in an apartment building is one hell of a selfish move, imo. Have you thought about your neighbors at all? What if a fire happens because of a mistake you made?

WTF do people think it's a good idea to blow glass in an apartment complex?

[Number Three]

i have a hand torch for sale with a munch of tips that could get you started. I also have an ex-15 im gonna sell. check out my post in the glassifides if you likey pm me

[BrassMonkey]

true Esp with carpet. Ive had tubes explode hot glass all over the place. Orange hot marbs jump off a punty and roll off into the distance

[ellohellcj]

Blowing glass in an apartment building is one hell of a selfish move, imo. Have you thought about your neighbors at all? What if a fire happens because of a mistake you made?

WTF do people think it's a good idea to blow glass in an apartment complex?

WTF, do people think it's a good idea to respond without reading? :shifty:
I'm pretty sure I even said the words "BAD IDEA."

It also would be working with soft glass and a hot head. Not boro and something that needs more than one tank, a bunch of hoses and a lot more prep to use.
With the right precautions, I think it'd be fine. I understand shit happens, and I understand I came here for advice.

Decent to "proper," vent, a secured and mounted hot head, a fireproof mat for the surrounding carpet, and a tray with edges to catch any hot glass, or rolling glass, I've seen it done a lot worse hah
But
thanks for the offer Number Three, looks like a great deal. But due to certain limitations, I'm pretty stuck on a hot head until I find suitable space and funds for a con/tanks/oxy/space/etc.

[Shatner]

WTF, do people think it's a good idea to respond without reading? :shifty:
I'm pretty sure I even said the words "BAD IDEA."

It also would be working with soft glass and a hot head. Not boro and something that needs more than one tank, a bunch of hoses and a lot more prep to use.
With the right precautions, I think it'd be fine. I understand shit happens, and I understand I came here for advice.

Decent to "proper," vent, a secured and mounted hot head, a fireproof mat for the surrounding carpet, and a tray with edges to catch any hot glass, or rolling glass, I've seen it done a lot worse hah
But
thanks for the offer Number Three, looks like a great deal. But due to certain limitations, I'm pretty stuck on a hot head until I find suitable space and funds for a con/tanks/oxy/space/etc.

So you know it's a bad idea, but continue? Soft glass vs. boro in an apartment is not an argument.

[Julian]

Hey Shatner, we have a discussion of ellohellcj's shop plans over here if you'd like to check it out: http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41028

[Shatner]

Hey Shatner, we have a discussion of ellohellcj's shop plans over here if you'd like to check it out: http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41028

I appreciate it. But I've said my piece. I just don't think apartments and flameworking mix.

[Julian]

There are probably better alternatives in Portland. I'd try to find a place to get lessons, or a community studio, and then you have a fire safe, contamination safe work place as well as learn from and be around other people working glass.