View Full Version : how to do this, and what browns to use...
hashmasta-kut
10-17-2011, 11:05 AM
hey y'all, i have a request to make this coffee pattern in glass. i have some ideas on the construction, but am still floundering, also on colors. i got some chocolate crayon and tried to mix it down lighter with white but it turned gray... i was going to buy some borobars mocha, and try the two of them maybe? any help would be much appreciated, on the design making as well, thanks :)
http://www.ratemyrosetta.com/latte-art-5_gbjU2bJC.jpg
Kaizen
10-17-2011, 11:29 AM
Maybe a vac stac from white to off-white to brown. Reversal and rake it?
Takes me back to my days when I worked at Starbucks :/
Black Fire
10-17-2011, 12:54 PM
Nah, not crayon-ish colors, you should go with heavy translucents for the brown, and mix it all over the place with white. Try GA Black Walnut, it's like a turbo brown, and you might want to throw in some Momka Charles Brown for lighter shades.
hashmasta-kut
10-17-2011, 01:05 PM
interesting, thanks. i will grab some of that walnut, i was contemplating it.
Eric S
10-17-2011, 01:07 PM
momka brown glitter is a nice golden brown trans the color is the closest i can think of, but the sparkles may or may not work with your thing. I'd try to draw the back and forth lines with a stringer, and then use a tungsten rake.
hashmasta-kut
10-17-2011, 01:20 PM
i guess i need a good brown backdrop, then draw stringers of white on, is what you were thinking?
i would use a white back drop. some caramel or butterscotch powder or frit in varied amounts in select places, then chocholate crayon stringers and rake it. thats what i see
chayes
10-17-2011, 03:02 PM
glass and food decoration techniques are very similar. I suggest making a marbleized brown and white colored glass. I also suggest china white if your gonna go in that direction it works great for the marbleized look.
gn0me
10-17-2011, 06:39 PM
Funnily my other job is at a cafe, and I pour these all day long. Take a look at how they're made with foam and you'll find that wrap/rake can span more mediums than simply glass and cake :D
I highly recommend this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEgrQZVSnds) for training advice. It's from a series of shoots in a cafe up in the Boulder area, where the staff took videos of their coffee pours to further their training... I got to meet the cameraman (a manager up there - guy with crazy demi-fro in the video) and the look on his face when I came up and quoted a line from the video was priceless.
Julian
10-17-2011, 06:50 PM
GA Walnut is a nice semi transparent brown. I wonder how it would look over white, maybe thinned out a bit?
hashmasta-kut
10-17-2011, 06:56 PM
this is gonna be fun, i got so many ideas now, i cant imagine the outcome, thanks a lot everyone.
hey gnome what line was it, "that was so cool, for a minute".... ?
Aymie
10-17-2011, 07:18 PM
I would say mix the chocolate with the Charles brown. The Charles brown is sooo smooth and buttery, same for the brown glitter.
If you decide you want to try boro stix, let me know. I don't use the browns but have a variety. I would totally be down to trade a pendant for some of them. No need to spend money on something that might not work anyway. But I do think the mix above would be the best option.
See, look at me being all helpful to someone I have even jumped on and had words with. Guess I am not so bad after all.
chayes
10-17-2011, 07:52 PM
marbleized: hand mix chocolate crayon (brown) with china white don't fully mix it. you will have denser spots of brown a mixture of brown & white and white, depending on how thoroughly you mix it. use tungsten or a white or brown rod to drag your pattern through the colors.
I have never used brown crayon for this but i have used orange,yellow,jade and it had a great effect. Also china white works best and doesn't alter the base color. You might get a cool effect using china trans brown and white.
is this going to be hollow or solid?? like a window or a pendant like cabochon?
Ga bronze sparkle might work well for this.
hashmasta-kut
10-17-2011, 09:47 PM
marbleized: hand mix chocolate crayon (brown) with china white don't fully mix it. you will have denser spots of brown a mixture of brown & white and white, depending on how thoroughly you mix it. use tungsten or a white or brown rod to drag your pattern through the colors.
I have never used brown crayon for this but i have used orange,yellow,jade and it had a great effect. Also china white works best and doesn't alter the base color. You might get a cool effect using china trans brown and white.
i do have a few rods of china white, i may give it a whirl, thanks.
hashmasta-kut
10-17-2011, 09:48 PM
is this going to be hollow or solid?? like a window or a pendant like cabochon?
requested are two hollow front section designs, and also a marble.
Julian
10-17-2011, 10:14 PM
Pretty fun thing to replicate in glass... I always liked how cakes and coffee get raked and the theory and effect are basically the same as what we do.
I used to do a surface work pattern something like this, just by drawing a stringer in a curved back and forth squiggle, and raking down the middle. This pattern shows up in old furnace blown glass, too... should be relatively simple to do.
gn0me
10-17-2011, 11:37 PM
I saw the video when it was linked to from CoffeeGeek a couple years ago, and found out that the cafe is Amante, in north Boulder (about Broadway and Yarmouth). I went up to the counter and ordered a double cappuccino... in a minute or so he set a beautifully poured double cap on the counter and started walking away.
I said, "Hey wait, I think there's something written in this cappuccino... can you make it out?"
He came back and looked down with a hint of confusion. I pointed to it and said, "I think it says 'douche.'"
Many giggles were had all around. And then we proceeded to talk about the best way to make a shakeratto, and aeropress coffee. It was most definitely worth the trip to have a laugh like that.
funny, i had this exact thought last night. I have not worked it out yet but i am thinking some kind of wrap and rake.
NUBBLET
10-18-2011, 01:39 AM
draw stretched Ss in white black walnut and lighter brown(if needed acid yellow mixed with choco crayon gives a nice golden brown, ratio will vary the shade) , draw them tight together and touching.
now you have a S design with more swoops of course and varying shades, rake through the middle of the swoops and you should get just that kinda pattern. As you go up the swoops get shorter til they become so to speak the tip of soft serve cone.
I hope I made sense and helped.
NUBBLET
10-18-2011, 01:41 AM
GA Walnut is a nice semi transparent brown. I wonder how it would look over white, maybe thinned out a bit?
it looks killer , so elegant try it im sure youll love it.
Kaizen
10-25-2011, 09:05 AM
Have you tried it yet?
hashmasta-kut
10-25-2011, 11:14 AM
i just got my other browns moments ago actually. i think tonight and tomorrow im gonna start going at it.
smolder holder
10-25-2011, 11:20 AM
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with kut. GL
glassdocnc
10-25-2011, 12:21 PM
I'd love to see pics of the results - whatever they are.
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