anyone into doing a pipe trade?

[B.C. Creations]

i think i need a new piece and im sure a few others wouldnt mind a new one. i remember years ago there was a pipe trade thread. how bout another one?

id be willing to do one 50 to 100 dollar wholesale value for a trade. anyone into it?

mods if this is violates the tos sorry. not trying to sell just trying to trade.........

[p.j.]

i would..but last time everybody flaked

[Coal]

Im in, id love to get more artists work in my cabnet. How will this work?

[mark206nj]

Oh, what the hell. I'm already in the pendant swap and the marble swap. Might as well do a pipe swap too. Plus, it might get me some other artists pieces in my collection. I'm in.

[J proper]

I'm down if it happens

[STROKER]

this turned into a fiasco last time becuase it became quite apparent that wholesale values are quite different from artist to artist.

if you are gonna try it then i would suggest narrowing it down to a certain type of piece and even then you are gonna get a very wide range of quality. this will lead to the same issues that were present the last time most likely though.

good luck with it.

[TlkQ]

I don't think there should be a monetary value put on a trade like this. As GWS pointed out this caused a lot of trouble with the last one. Personally if I were going to be trading pieces with the artists I have learned from and look up to I'd certainly step my game up and produce something that I can be proud of for such a trade. Probably something I couldn't sell for what it'd be worth to me.

I don't think trades like these are about getting super heady high $$ pieces. It's about building relationships with other professionals in our industry. I'm in if it happens and I pledge I'll make something that I can give to another glassblower and be proud of.

[Bruce Dille]

Im in, I would love to add to my collection.
The idea of it being a spoon,hammer or bubbler trade is more apealing to me also.

[nodice]

I'm in.

[brettodie]

id suggest having all the pieces shipped to one location. then resent that way everyone that plays get a piece and extremely lopsided trades can be prevented.

[quix]

i'll toss something in on this one. not too worried about what I get in return as long as it was made by someone other than me it will be easier for me to enjoy rather than scrutinize.

[Coal]

id suggest having all the pieces shipped to one location. then resent that way everyone that plays get a piece and extremely lopsided trades can be prevented.

I can agree with you here. This would be safe, however it would mean starting a "pipe trade" thread. Someone would have to step up and be the mediator. Not to mention people will have to make several pieces.

I kinda wanted to make a private agreement with another person or two, or one at a time. Follow through with the arrangment and move on to the next one.

Otherwise I would LOVE to do a prodo pipe trade. It would be great to have a shelf of everyones prdo work, cause god know we all do em.

[J proper]

I think a sherly trade would be cool, keep it strickly some locks dry or wet. Then get somebody to host, I will if nobody else wants to. Then ship them with to the host with address labels and reshipping payment just like the other swaps. a couple weeks ago I even thought a dish and dabber swap because almost everybody makes them or could.

[OracleGlassArts]

Im down

[HeartBurnGlass]

Count me in

[Bruce Dille]

does it have to be sherlocks?
If so me and probably a few others wont be able to particapate,
prodo spoons is the best idea so far.

[ithruxix]

Prodo spoons (clean welds, excellent ratios, dynamic colors, perfect hole placement etc to show an artists ability to be consistent & produce beautiful pieces) would be the best solution to a simple exchange.

And if someone isn't quite up to par, I don't see why they couldn't contribute a nice clean UNUSED piece from the collection. That way, everyone could play. If its a little heady, cool. If its simply a perfect prodo piece, then that's cool too. The minute $$$ is placed anywhere near a piece of art, someone is going to get butt hurt, because they got 'jipped'.

My 2.5 cents anyways.

[B.C. Creations]

how bout this.....

send to my store what you are willing to trade. say we pick a date to be shipped by. i can have fizzle or someone else thats in the industry that is local to me, help me decide what are worthy trades so no one gets screwed. a problem i see with that is shipping costs back for the trades..........

or we just scratch the trade all together and someone can just trade me a nicer smaller head peice for the like? i just want something new in my limited collection and have one of mine added to someone elses.

i didnt relize this happend before and people flaked.

[brettodie]

included shipping in box for next mailing.

[GlassConnoisseur]

I'm down! :)

[B.C. Creations]

if i remember correctly.....the pipe i recieved was a nice sherlock from brettodie?

[Aaron Ellis]

I'm down heady prodo whatever. I do thing pieces should be signed . I'd be proud to have a janky w&w spoon if it was a first edition Jason Lee Ya know what I meen

[B.C. Creations]

or we could take a pic of the piece we are willing to trade and email it to me or whoever wants to take charge? they could figure out the right trades and give people the address to ship their piece to

[Kevin Bumble]

your in charge^^^^

and to add I remember the, how do I know the guy is 18, and I don't want to ship to PA FL TX or whatever other state... being a problem too. fyi

[B.C. Creations]

DOH!!

i just want a new piece..............

[Bruce Dille]

and to add I remember the, how do I know the guy is 18, and I don't want to ship to PA FL TX or whatever other state... being a problem too. fyi

:(
anyone got a fork ?

[akmewon]

this one no work http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34368&highlight=semi+heady
this one kinda worked i gotta cool lil pipe from rickert http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32953&highlight=pipe+exchange

if we can find a way to weed out the flakes I am down also .cause I am pretty sure some peeps got screwed on this.

I think the way glassdoc is hosting the marble and pendent exchange is the safest ....everybody send said piece to reputable person WITH return shipping monies included...and just make it an open trade .Meaning if you are down ,you are willing to get whatever is sent to you..cause like it was already said when you start putting monetary value people feel gipped...only requirement is that it has to be a sellable pipe..other suggestions?

[HDGlassArt]

We'd love to trade as well, there are quite a few artist on here that I would love to have in my collection. ^_^

[ITIS]

why don't you just post the piece you want to trade, and then others can post what they are offering you for your piece, and then you can pick the one you like best. Biased, sure but it is strait forward.

[B-Rye-oNeR]

^this...sounds cool

[GlassConnoisseur]

why don't you just post the piece you want to trade, and then others can post what they are offering you for your piece, and then you can pick the one you like best. Biased, sure but it is strait forward.

I agree 100%. That way you're not just sending something off with absolutely no idea what you're going to get in return.
I also agree with ithruxix. Whether it's w/r prodo, blow-in, frit, ISO, whatever. The shaping should be on point with nice size holes all around. A huge mouthpiece hole can ruin a good looking pipe, as can a huge bowl hole or a pinhole carb.
With all this being said, i'd love to own a spoon made by another member on here.

[Chris Juedemann]

Sign me up. What could go wrong?

[Pogo]

^LMFAO

Over thirty posts and still not even a solid format for the swap. I love this shit.

[berning]

i sense a touch of doubt in pogo's post , count me in.....twice.

[smolder holder]

I'm up for it.

[B.C. Creations]

ill take charge. people interested in trading..........

send the piece you want to trade to my store with shipping to the next person included. if shipping isnt included i will consider it a donation to my store. (im not sticking my money into shipping anything but the piece im sending) ill go thru them and find some what equal trades and send them off. THEY MUST BE TO MY STORE BY THE LAST DAY OF THIS MONTH! then i can get the swaps worked out and sent off so everyone should get their return piece by 4-20. if the pieces get to my store later than april 1st i will send them back to the artist who made it. please include the name you go by in the glass industry and your mp screen name. pieces must be on point. no jankness. no bad mouth pieces or big or small bowl holes or the like wise with carb holes.

DEADLINE IS MARCH 31ST which is a saturday. make sure you give yourself ample for shipping so your piece doesnt end up as a donation to my store.

fair enough?

shipping is......
bc creations
po box 10
black creek wi
54106

or the physical address is...
bc creations
102 n main st
black creek wi
54106

i know i have atleast one in my shop that will participate in this as well.

well off to work.........................

[leatherneck8541]

"I don't think trades like these are about getting super heady high $$ pieces. It's about building relationships with other professionals in our industry. I'm in if it happens and I pledge I'll make something that I can give to another glassblower and be proud of." well played Tikq
awesome idea I'm in

[Coal]

why don't you just post the piece you want to trade, and then others can post what they are offering you for your piece, and then you can pick the one you like best. Biased, sure but it is strait forward.

I really like this idea, could we start doing this in the glass art wanted section, or glassifieds? Im tempted......

Anyway good work movin on this and taking charge Danny! Im gettin on it.

Is this cloesed at only ! 1 piece, or can I send one nice spoon and a kinda nicer piece as well?

[nodice]

Boom, done. (http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=656699#post656699)

[Slow]

If we don't know who you'll be shipping our pieces to, how will we know how much $ to include for shipping?

[Pogo]

^That.

[Mecha]

Priority mail flat rate?

[p.j.]

Priority mail flat rate?

x2

[Kato]

yea this has been attempted before.. Turned into a shit show of "unworthy pieces" and people flaking out. It really was bad.. Kudo's to you if you actually get this going, but newbs, please realise, NOBODY wants one of your jank pieces.. Just saying the truth. By entering this swap you are most likely going to be pissing off whomever get your piece. Not trying to be a downer to you guys, but it really is the truth.

with my peace spoken I know bid this thread adu'

[Pogo]

^And that.

*Sell hope to n00bs here*

[kc-216]

lol yeah I saw this thread and my first thought was. Id love to be a part of this someday when my pieces are worthy haha all I can make consistantly is prodo. I would feel like the biggest ass in the world sending off one of my pipes and getting something really nice back. props to all of you who can make a nice heady piece perhaps one day not far off...

[phishinphree]

why not post pics of each pipe and have the group who wants to trade vote on each one. Then do the trade according to score.. ie the top two pipes are traded, then the next two and so on. seems reasonable to me

[B.C. Creations]

too many wishy washy people here.....but i totally understand why.

DONT SEND THEM TO MY STORE.......IM OUT!

im just gonna trade with one of the people who pmd me or im gonna post a pic like no dice did.

[Chris Juedemann]

too many wishy washy people here

Wishy washy isn't it. We are a loose band of individuals that don't fit the mainstream, have vision, passion, skill, curiosity, and an appreciation of our peers work and a genuine interest in pretty much anything that sounds fun.

We are also broke for the most part, and tend to let the first paragraph get in the way of deadlines and business commitments. Life comes at you fast, and trade for god-only-knows-what deadlines come even faster.


DONT SEND THEM TO MY STORE.......IM OUT!

Kudos for stepping up to begin with, but this will be a fantastic decision you will never regret.

[mark206nj]

Well, guess that is another pipe trade that went down the shitter. Oh well but I was actually looking forward to getting a piece or two of some other artist's work.

[Coal]

well this just happened today! this is the way
http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43387

[AdamCotter]

How about we get a box trade going, everyone puts something in the box and sends it on, takes something out.?

[nodice]

Worthy and unworthy are relative. You know you want to donate a $50-100 piece to the gods of chance and humility.

[AdamCotter]

Is this still happening or what? I think there should be an hour limit, that way no one feels ripped off. I'm willing to send off an hour long piece to anyone who wants to trade.

[Chris Juedemann]

I'm in.

[CripSkillz]

damn and i almost signed up tooo ..

[Icarus]

Is this still happening or what? I think there should be an hour limit, that way no one feels ripped off. I'm willing to send off an hour long piece to anyone who wants to trade.

These massive trades seemed to be cursed. It always seem to end in drama, someone slacking, and Person A gets pissed, cause they put in their time and made a nice piece to send to person B, now they're just waiting for their piece from person C to arrive, but Person C has some serious shit crop up in their life lately, and now they don't have an internet connection, and their rent is due, and they're out of glass, etc...

The trade Nodice and Coal did seems to be the way to go about it.

One person offers an item for trade and another person shows what they have willing to trade. The first person either accepts or rejects. Once an offer has been accepted, it's locked into these two people, and they are in charge of getting their pieces to one another.

That way there is only two links in the chain that could fail. If you have a twenty person chain, that's an awful lot of links to count on, and one bad one messes it up for multiple people.

[Coal]

Btw, I received my piece from nodice yesterday! This worked out great. It was fun, easy, not to mention its all out there for everyone to see, kinda holding the traders to keep integrity and honesty to follow through. If not one of the parties can post in the thread.

This was fun, I just wish we could start getting more people to do it like this. Im kinda on a "want to collect others glass" kick now anyway.

[HeartBurnGlass]

Im totally down for a one on one trade when I finish this prodo streak ive been on, OH gawd ive been doing so much prodo. cant wait to have some fun with glass again.

[Slow]

damn and i almost signed up tooo ..

Aw, shit... eff this mess and trade with me, straight up. I'd love me a Crip piece!

[MUPH]

This sucked last time because some people think adding 10 - $5 marbles to a $10 sherlock makes it a $60 piece. It doesnt. Sometimes people have inflated opinions of the value of their work. Some might be ok getting a janky piece in a trade, most wont. There is tons of red tape with shipping and people's location/age/whatnot. Its best to do pipe trades in private.

Feelings get hurt and people get pissed when these go public.

here's some from the past

http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32953&highlight=pipe+traDE

http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34368&highlight=pipe+traDE

[jr23]

Oh snap its the impossible trade deal.

fully worked shit in P-town goes for the same price as clear prodo in the bum fucks.

A trade based on Value is really regional, and anybody that gets going and starts making stuff thinks any bub is worth a 50 at least its a bubbler,LOL

Just start a thread called the I want to fight about wholesale pricing and shitty welds thread.


I would be balls out in for a dabber trade thread , I would even host it and buy a banner at the top of page if the dabbers sick ta death!

[Julian]

I like that idea... a dabber trade, because it's something simple and consistently legal.

[J proper]

By dabber you guys mean "letter opener" right? Jk but I'm down