the begining of a prodigy

[zman]

I have been lampworking roughly five months now. I started on a hot head making beads for my girlfriend and I loved it after two months on the hot head I needed more heat to try marblemakeing which I had to try after visiting moon marble in Bonner springs ks. I got a nortel minor and a ten lpm concentrator and tapped into our natural gas I've been making marbles for roughly three,months and i am hooked hopefully you will be hearing alot more from me in the future as I expand my skills and hopefully reach the ten thousand hour mark and mastery of lampworking
:D

[kc-216]

mastery? at ten thousand hours? hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... try the rest of your natural life

[mer]

mastery is in the progress, not the product.

[zman]

No mastery is achieved at 10000 hours many a study has been conducted on this and a marvelous book outliers was written on this subject I highly reccomend it.

[Jimi The Don]

no offense, and good luck with glass man, it's a great medium, but um, did you just call yourself a prodigy?

[zman]

Haha ya that was sarcasm I'm pretty awful in all honesty

[J proper]

How did you fit your head through the door?

[HOSS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ud4M6jnz78&feature=related

[Icarus]

How did you fit your head through the door?

Says the pot to the kettle.

[Greenhorse Glass]

How did you fit your head through the door?

Can your head even get out anymore?

[TlkQ]

How did you fit your head through the door?

Oh man. Classic. Bahaha

[J proper]

I have custom doorways for mine, lol

[kage]

you are z man

[Boozeclues]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmin5WkOuPw

[quix]

How did you fit your head through the door?

With a proper kickstand one can achieve anything.

[T-Rex]

dude, when you hit 10,000 hours you dont' magically transform into a master.

I've read that book and most of it is bunk. Take it for what it is... pulp fiction for the masses - the author tries to blast you with all sorts of zany 'facts' he's used 'ecomonics' to deduce.

Regarding the hours... just keep at it and you'll get better. No sense bringing the words master or prodigy onto the scene at this point. Good luck and enjoy the ride!

[Boozeclues]

10k hours is roughly 4 years of lampworking. If you think anyone is at the top of the game after 4 years your silly. Your book is wrong.

[J proper]

Any pics from the Prodigy?

[Matt P]

10k hours is roughly 4 years of lampworking. If you think anyone is at the top of the game after 4 years your silly. Your book is wrong.

and that's working more than 40 hours a week...which I would love to do, but I have a "real" job to pay my pills and get no where near those hours on the torch, definitely not as a rookie...


Any pics from the Prodigy?

I kept scrolling down hoping to see some, and then I got here...:bummed:

[kc-216]

Maybe 10k hours doing one specific thing like making a wrap and rake and you might be able 2 call yourself the master of wrap and rake spoons.....

[zman]

I'll post a pic of a vortex marble I made last week if I can find the camera. Don't hold your breath though my ego far exceeds my abilities (and my camera locating skills).

[Slimy-E]

some of the funnist6 post i've seen in this thread-- J-Proper gets some props here

Classic head thru the door! lol

[zman]

OK here's the vortex and an awful implosion that needs advice badly.....thanks Zach

[hashmasta-kut]

advice wont help that now, its too late, but nice amanita backing :)

[kc-216]

ok this guy started his progress thread like an idiot but I think I will forgive him his mistakes and try to help him what little I can.. ok vortex marble. right you adde lines make cone then make sure you back it with something and preserve the cone or you wont get a good effect. also try working the clear further out in the flame and maybe with less oxy and you wont get as many bubbles. you can also try just getting the area with bubbles hot and pulling off the bubbles. im not a marble maker so thats about the end of my advice. good luck.

[MUPH]

How did you fit your head through the door?

Lol

[sasch74]

See, you should add a few hours to the 10000 to search this board for advice:-)

[zman]

Ok I adimit defeat I'm a noob like all the rest, thanks for the advice on my marbles hopefully some new marbles will come that can still be saved.:bouncy:

[menty666]

Ok I adimit defeat I'm a noob like all the rest, thanks for the advice on my marbles hopefully some new marbles will come that can still be saved.:bouncy:

I kind of liked that vortex marble, actually. Not such a fan of the backing, but the innards were fun.

[zman]

thanks menty and yes the polka dots are a bit simplistic I have been meaning to try pinwheeling since it dosent sound to difficult and would add a lot more intrest to the backing.

[Jimi The Don]

i think i gave a pretty good explanation of a vortex at one point if you,re bored search through my posts..

[p.j.]

http://youtu.be/MlMNM-vsnn4


now that is the making of a prodigy

http://youtu.be/bJduTv1ucq8


in the beginning god created hippies....

http://youtu.be/vWZk5dqxkb4



if you want to be a prodigy you need to start the day with a healthy breakfast......

http://youtu.be/F7vYJqyBZEk


lets go old school......

http://youtu.be/iRBEkKQi8Y4


give some love to the ones we've lost.....

[Jenx]

Just wanted to say welcome.

Jenx

[Jestr]

Okay, all this stuff about mastery makes me want to clarify things. The study panel that decided upon the 10,000 hour marker for attainment of technical mastery had a few more qualifications than just time spent. They may be subtle points, but I find them still fairly integral. There are three qualifications.

1. A person must have some measure of personal interest in the activity and cannot be forced to engage in said activity; it must be a willful engagement. A student who does not care does not learn properly. (Not much of a hurdle if you're already here.)

2. A person must complete roughly 10,000 hours of the chosen activity. (And I feel it is also important to note here that time spent is best kept to a daily basis. One's mind and skill level will benefit more from 25 hours practice spaced into 5 hrs/day for five days than 12.5 hours a day twice.)

3. A person must participate in their chosen activity in a steadily increasing difficulty slope that is constantly technically expanding and mentally engaging. Increases in skill level slow dramatically when the mind is not challenged and when the person is performing precisely the same task repeatedly.

Once these are met, the person has "technically" achieved "mastery" over something. At least that is how science defines it, but perhaps most in this field of work would refer to this skill level as "competency." One should also note that the original study was performed in reference to music students coming from High School and entering College, and a person under eighteen with 10,000 hours of skill involved is referred to not as a master but as a "virtuoso," which is a subtle difference. Doesn't fuckin matter much though, seeing how remarkable relative all these terms are.

Long story short, I'm a three-fold virtuoso of the following: video games, sleeping, and being a bachelor. There's about eighteen other things that would be on that list if there weren't eighteen of them. Glass is fast on the rise, though, and I plan to put a big check mark next to it when my chronometer hits 10,000. So I'll just keep melting for now.

[Jestr]

^I should also note that I may not be 100% accurate, it's late so I didn't check my resources. If anyone corrects me, I promise I won't be offended, cuz that would totally matter anyway.

[Icarus]

Long story short, I'm a three-fold virtuoso of the following: video games, sleeping, and being a bachelor. There's about eighteen other things that would be on that list if there weren't eighteen of them. Glass is fast on the rise, though, and I plan to put a big check mark next to it when my chronometer hits 10,000. So I'll just keep melting for now.

I have these weird callous' on my right palm that suggest a mastery over something. Not sure what though.

Good post Jestr.

[Aaron Ellis]

^ if you fish a lot it could be from putting the worm on the hook.

[Aymie]

Can someone fetch me a sammich?

[themoch]

good call Aymie,

i could use one too!

[MUPH]

Did you get straight A's in school?

[yinzer]

I'm a master at sammiching

[Bryan]

http://djwonder.com/wp-content/sammich.jpg

[Jestr]

I fuckin' LOVE YOU PEOPLE!!!! Oh, my god, after developments from last night, this just makes me laugh and laugh.

[zman]

haha my progression thread is about sammichs I love it... I bet I have ten thousand hours of sammich making under my belt!

[Plum Tuckered]

Here it comes, the smack from an OG about your lack of sammich knowledge. Leave the sammich jokes to the pros....


haha my progression thread is about sammichs I love it... I bet I have ten thousand hours of sammich making under my belt!

[zman]

Here are a couple pictures of my studio.

[Kato]

Fuck kitchen sinks. Rage the grime off those dirty dishes.

[Aaron Ellis]

Um.... I think that's the stove? You might wanna check the vent make sure you have enough suction. Light an incense and place it next to your torch if the smoke travels up and out the vent ur ok. Just an observation and suggestion. You may have already done this.

[Aaron Ellis]

Oh Ya I forgot to say nice looking station.

[zman]

I don't have enough suction were currently in the process of figureing out new ventilation as suggested by our fire marshall there's actually a thread about it

[Boozeclues]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5eWPfl9SIg

[Samson]

That vent should almost be as low as those cabinets ... bet your vent would work 10,000 times better if you did that.

[kc-216]

so have you made anything yet?

[hedcraft]

so have you made anything yet?


Haven't you been paying attention?
2 more marbles and we're gonna be paying him for lessons.

[MUPH]

I bet he's getting Proper lessons