Best torch for dabbers and inlines

[Pogo]

Gonna be melting glass soon, so excited :bouncy:

What should i get to make like, heady stuff and dabbers and DI rigs and stuff? I'm thinking either red max or GTT Delta.
Are those torches OK for that kinda stuff? I don't want to get held back cause of tools.

[Bo Diddles]

Fuck the red max man, gtt or die. I don't think it's actually possible to heat glass to its melting point with a red max.
If you want big, thick dabbers, go with the Delta Elite.

[Aaron Ellis]

Big fat Dillie Dabbers hahaha. You gotta make those on at least a python.

[KT-Old School Glass]

Well shit... I've just been using my BIC...

[p.j.]

delta mag or cobra....i use my redmax for heating my TI, it is the only thing that it is good for( and roasting chickens that i chuck up on my lathe.)

oh, you forgot to ask what size tubing.

all my inlines are 75x9 jacketed in 110x2.5

hope this helps!

[AWhiskeyDrunk]

Whatever you do... get a foot pedal.. Its IMPOSSIBLE to make a good dabber without a foot pedal.

[themoch]

you'll want at least 3 foot pedals if you get the HA. this way you can control the full range of flame sizes.

I would suggest getting like 10lbs of Nile. It is the most Ro$$ color of them all.

[smolder holder]

Don't forget to water anneal everything!

[RedToroBoro]

You might look into a Herbie 40 or 65 for a good hand torch for those dabbers. Just take the base off and connect it to piece of broom stick.

[HomegrownGlassStudio]

I would go with the biggest GTT you can get! These kids keep stepping up there dab game pretty soon you will be making dabber spoons!

[jr23]

I was thinking about how pussy even a mirage is for making dabbers. Fucking herbie's suck hella balls for dabber's they are 4 hollow work yo!

If gtt would stop making all those fag torches for oxy con's they could get on making a dabbers torch with a Cheetah inner delta middle and a 144 port outer ring.

[hashmasta-kut]

i paid 3300 for a dabber torch, but only managed to make 2 dabbers so far, and one broke :(

[Julian]

I'd get a GTT Mirage... that's what Dabio makes all his dabbers & rigs on.

[n3rd]

shouldn't be hard to find a deal on a lathe these days might as well grab one

[willieswonder]

I am starting to like this place ;)

[Swampy]

Anyone down for a double blown hollow head dabber ($$$$$) colab ur swap hit me up. Yo.

[Bunyip]

best torch for dabbers and heady stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8CtrQe097Q

only newbies use GTT for that isht. Get one of these and start rocking the gliz-ass right away.

[ReLo442]

dude all I care about making is glass nails and trays, quadruple blown only!!! I make everything out of color change glass. Can a GTT Delta mag handle that or should I step up to a Cobra?

[Aaron Ellis]

Guy this is the only torch that can make dabbers for us and there not that expensive......I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgh-EmBcJNc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Slow]

Please use the search function, folks. This question has already been answered.

[sasch74]

Fuck torches, let's pull em straight out of a nice 30lbs crucible or three!

[aREa541]

Yo, I just saw the sickest tribal pattern dabber yo. How do you do that yo? Also, if I am gonna make heady inlines yo, do I really need a kiln yo? My yo has a toaster oven and he was like "yo just put em in here yo" but I was like no yo, not for heady inlines yo.

[mer]

I invented the dabber as well as most all of the oil accessories. you guys are welcome to try but imitators never really get it right. what torch to get? hitman of course!

[Mecha]

^Yes. Hitman all the way.

And don't clamp that shit to your bench all pussy styles. Put it on a greased up angled piece of sheet metal yo!

[jr23]

Mer your asking for it. Better post a pic so the other inventors can ask for some prop's. I think we should do a heady dabber trade.

dish and dabs the fuck out of this thread. If we don't those fucking sandwich dudes are going to be all over this tasty thread.

[vetropod]

I don't need no torch, I just melt dabbers with my teeth.

[ramanglass544]

I just chow down on a mean burrito and light my farts.
its the best flame for fume and wont boil the wax out of your crayon colors.

[ramanglass544]

if your serious about your dabbers though, you need the chode (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dragon-King-Fire-Surface-Mix-Center-Fire-Glass-Blowing-Glass-Torch-Lathe-Torch-/221013220278?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33756a1bb6)

[EFS]

I hate to let out make secrets but i have two pythons crossfired. Make totally baller dabbers this way.

[Pogo]

Thanks for all the input, but I probably won't go those routes ( or take any of you guy's advice, But I will regurgitate it to the other fledgling workers)

I think a 65mm Herbie is the way to go, because it's like a lightsabre but with fire. gonna turn the A\C on in my studio ([apartment]) for ventilations... do you think If i got a "reflective light \ vent hood" it would move enough air if i took the tube off and hooked it through the A\C?

[Matt P]

if your serious about your dabbers though, you need the chode (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dragon-King-Fire-Surface-Mix-Center-Fire-Glass-Blowing-Glass-Torch-Lathe-Torch-/221013220278?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33756a1bb6)

holy god...that's a lot of ports... You could make a baseball bat dabber with that thing...

And thanks to Pogo for one of the more entertaining threads I've read in a while.

[Bunyip]

gonna turn the A\C on in my studio ([apartment]) for ventilations... do you think If i got a "reflective light \ vent hood" it would move enough air if i took the tube off and hooked it through the A\C?

Only if you get the magic lung!! (http://www.amazon.com/Vent-A-Hood-PRH9-230-Stainless-Under-Cabinet/dp/B0011YEJA6). Ok probably not even then.

[Aaron Ellis]

Some great posts a lot of informative info thanx and + rep for all that posted. I think I'll just go with a little smith for my dabbers I like to go big.

[menty666]

if your serious about your dabbers though, you need the chode (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dragon-King-Fire-Surface-Mix-Center-Fire-Glass-Blowing-Glass-Torch-Lathe-Torch-/221013220278?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33756a1bb6)


holy carpe diem. And only two knobs? That's the mark of a beginner's torch, son!

[Aussie]

I'm too old school for torches, Zappa style is the way to make dabbers.


"The manly art of fart-burning. Compression, ignition, combustion and exhaust"
(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6304447980554417691)

[Aussie]

hope that helps!

[Icarus]

I invented the dabber as well as most all of the oil accessories. you guys are welcome to try but imitators never really get it right. what torch to get? hitman of course!

Alright, looks like we all have to send one dish and one dabber to Mer since we're all biting him.

You've gotta pay the troll toll....

[ramanglass544]

Mmmmmm, boys hole

[Kool]

To the OP, ignore the ignorance displayed in this thread. If you are really in this for the long haul, throw down and get a custom "Pogo" torch designed by GTT. All the cool kids have them. You just can't beat getting exactly what you want. It's a little known fact that W&W will make a torch and name it after you if you are dabtastically dabberific.

[Greymatter Glass]

OP is a pogo

[Jimi The Don]

Please use the search function, folks. This question has already been answered.

best answer yet..

[Pogo]

OP is a pogo
No need for insults\ name calling.
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I'm just trying to learn this craft so I can be an artist and so I can make some sick headdies in a couple weeks. I figure if I spend three or four days I can have most techs down pat.

[Julian]

wtf, why is Doug raggin on you like that?

Probably can't take the competition.

[smutboy420]

I think the liquid oxygen and used motor oil in a zippo trick. Would work great for dabbers.

[menty666]

I think the liquid oxygen and used motor oil in a zippo trick. Would work great for dabbers.

I think I know what you're saying, but can someone do a video demo? I'm self taught and not really near anyone, so it's hard to picture it.

[Aymie]

Dabbers are out, straights are in fools. Just snap off four inch pieces of thin walled 9.5. Make a little rose out if ribbon and put it in the tube. For some reason they sell quicker if you bundle them with chore boy pads...not sure what's up with that.

[Bunyip]

Gonna need a picture of that Aymie, so I can make sure I'm bitin' your style correctly. Thx.

[Julian]

Those little roses in tubes are so pretty!

[Plum Tuckered]

Wow thanks for all the info guys & girls! I learned a ton. Someone should sticky this bitch fer realz yo!

[Greymatter Glass]

im not raggin on anyone im just saying take it one step at a time dabbers are kind of tech and I think youd be better off working out some basic triple can inlines and simple hand spun tubes for a while before you try your hand at some of the more advanced dabber techniques once you get down your double ring seals can make some decent fillachellos and have tree percs figured out then maybe you can condider getting a delta mag or a 65 Zenit and pushing towards dabbers and still don't expect anyone to buy your early work it can take weeks maybe even a month before youre good enough to call yourself a master at any one technique let alone the aggregate skill set required to form even one end of a dabber and we haven't even talked about dishes yet Seriously Pogo some of us have HUNDREDS of hours on the torch and it's a little bit disingenuous of you to come in here expecting to just be able to buy all the gear and think this comes quickly

[Aymie]

Holy Jesus, how bad did it make your head hurt to write that?!

[Julian]

im not raggin on anyone im just saying take it one step at a time dabbers are kind of tech and I think youd be better off working out some basic triple can inlines and simple hand spun tubes for a while before you try your hand at some of the more advanced dabber techniques once you get down your double ring seals can make some decent fillachellos and have tree percs figured out then maybe you can condider getting a delta mag or a 65 Zenit and pushing towards dabbers and still don't expect anyone to buy your early work it can take weeks maybe even a month before youre good enough to call yourself a master at any one technique let alone the aggregate skill set required to form even one end of a dabber and we haven't even talked about dishes yet Seriously Pogo some of us have HUNDREDS of hours on the torch and it's a little bit disingenuous of you to come in here expecting to just be able to buy all the gear and think this comes quickly

LOL watevs brah

[ramanglass544]

the dabber market is oversaturated.

real pros make dildos,

http://i.imgur.com/3XoTi.jpg

[Pogo]

^I wish i could rep you again and again for this.

[themoch]

Mike,

just keep that thing from my side of the bench and we're all good

[MUPH]

this video will answer all your questions (http://www.vimeo.com/8517331)

[mer]

my friend makes dabbers and he is rich. he has an xbox360 and a ps3 and a ton of games and he has an Acura. he said it is not too hard. when I graduate he is going to teach me.

[Mecha]

^Whoa! Xbox360 and PS3?! Baller!

I bet that Acura has some nice dubs, a grapefruit shooter muffler, and a couple of bazooka tubes too.

Livin' the dream, that guy. Does he give lessons?

[MUPH]

Acuras are sick

[Greymatter Glass]

Acuras are sick

the move from honda to acura is basically the same as the move from sherlocks to dabbers.

[vetropod]

How much for that glass wiener???? :jump:

[purdy]

damn, you guys make dabbers? thats $waggg as all hell. I wouldnt ever think to attempt something that difficult on any torch. i always thought they were cast in butane furnaces made by vector.

[Julian]

I make all of my dabbers on a computer controlled lathe, programmed by Pogo. It's way in effect.

[hashmasta-kut]

damn most of the posts in this thread are super lame, including my other one. may as well close this. no one here will ever make a worthy dabber(joke).

[Aaron Ellis]

What's a dabber?

[p.j.]

i am just starting to to blow glasss ths wek .. iam so exciteed, i don know if this question haz ben asked before. what is the best torch for inlines and dabbers?

thanks!


yo this site is SO baller!!


and bless up papa!

[smutboy420]

I don't want to spend 100's of hours of my life trying to perfect the unobtainable. Isn't there some sort of class one can take to master the skill in a day or 2? Because any thing that takes more then a day or 2 to reach perfection just seems like to much of an effort. esp in this biz when the new next big thing could come and go in that time.

[Role]

Have you got streamers down like that guy with the midrange ?

He does streamers real good.

Maybe the midrange is a good torch for streamers, he wants to upgrade
because the midrange isn't good enough to support his 12 children so
maybe you can buy his midrange and learn to do streamers like he does.

[smolder holder]

the move from honda to acura is basically the same as the move from sherlocks to dabbers.

Ooooo sherlock dabbers!! No one bite this! I think i finally found my niche....

[BK]

ive been making Sherlock dabbers since '94

[smolder holder]

ive been making Sherlock dabbers since '94

Damn!!! Lol!

[Torch-Bug]

Yo been torchin for a few days now,

I have globs down. on to blobs.

In a few days I should be up to inlines, oh and pulling down some sick ass mille.

Ill be rollin in dough, what week or two?

[Swampy]

Hey everyone I just read the specs for each manufacturer's red, green and yellow colour rods... if you work in centigrade, they all have a lower critical point of 420!!!

[Riley]

no time to blow glass anymore, too busy with dabs. bummed too because i was going to come here to announce my new forum name, but captain super dabs mcgee mcdabbin penguin shooter duke of earl was taken. and yes, even with a 420 suffix.

[Bunyip]

All the cool names are taken. Duh

[ramanglass544]

what about a prefix, did you try a hyphen? surely you didnt exhaust all the options.

[themoch]

I don't want to spend 100's of hours of my life trying to perfect the unobtainable. Isn't there some sort of class one can take to master the skill in a day or 2? Because any thing that takes more then a day or 2 to reach perfection just seems like to much of an effort. esp in this biz when the new next big thing could come and go in that time.

i'm glad you mentioned this i'm hosting a class tonight on it!!! PM me for deets!


http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=667766#post667766



what about a prefix, did you try a hyphen? surely you didnt exhaust all the options.


yo i checked he got them all!

[Role]

what about a prefix

Can I put a prefix rider on the midrange to make better streamers ?

I really wanna make streamers, I have 19 kids to support.

[VertigoGlass]

damn most of the posts in this thread are super lame, including my other one. may as well close this. no one here will ever make a worthy dabber(joke).

NEVER in my life did i ever think i would see the king of patting himself on the back admit to doing ssomething "lame" the Mayans were right the world is ending.......

[mark206nj]

Wow, all you noobs take notes because this is THEE definitive answer to the original question.......


Snatch up 5 Kobuki's, remove the bases and configure them into a cradle burner formation. Attach that to the biggest lathe you can find and BAM! There is your perfect burner for dabbers. Just toss a 4 foot section of 2mm clear in the chucks, work it down into a ball, pull it out to about 7mm (cause all of us ballers know that ya can't find good 7mm clear anymore). Push your marias. Make your terminations and you are done.


As for the inlines, I like to go all old school. I use a Bic lighter with a bellows attachment. Yes, it might take a bit longer but the finished product is sooooo sweet.

[Julian]

Uh.. no, I hate to day it but that won't make good 7 mm. I produce mine in a vac stack type process - bundle 3 mm inside a tube of 70x5, vac down and pull.

[ramanglass544]

Wow, all you noobs take notes because this is THEE definitive answer to the original question.......


Snatch up 5 Kobuki's, remove the bases and configure them into a cradle burner formation. Attach that to the biggest lathe you can find and BAM! There is your perfect burner for dabbers. Just toss a 4 foot section of 2mm clear in the chucks, work it down into a ball, pull it out to about 7mm (cause all of us ballers know that ya can't find good 7mm clear anymore). Push your marias. Make your terminations and you are done.


As for the inlines, I like to go all old school. I use a Bic lighter with a bellows attachment. Yes, it might take a bit longer but the finished product is sooooo sweet.

bullshit, you didnt even mention the incantations

[mark206nj]

The incantations are in latin.....didn't think the noobs were ready for that yet.

[sasch74]

Finally found a decent dabber on the web!

http://www.phallixglass.com/