Degenerate Art Film

[WCGMille]

Supposedly the film is releasing today on certain types of media(itunes, netflix, ps3, ondemand etc)...just wondering if any of you have it available/have watched it yet?

Unfortunately I don't have cable, I'll be checking netflix and itunes again though. Let me know if any of you guys find it.:D

[glassnewb]

Yep, its out and available a few places. Seen it on my on demand today.

[Firekist]

Same for me, on ondemand..charter's pay per view. 5 dollah!

[ALIEN!]

shits on cable. god help us.

[Chubbles]

I can't get it on fios

[BlueLilyStudio]

you can purchase the movie for 15$ on PSN, watching while I download and its awesome, even for the third watch. Thanks Slinger

[Eric S]

a search returns nothing on netflix

[hashmasta-kut]

its been too long i lost interest. maybe it will show up on piratebay :D

[menty666]

Not on netflix yet, but you can watch it via iTunes. 4-5 dollars to rent (SD vs. HD) or you can buy a copy for 15.

[d3rk]

Where can I get a hard copy? I'm too lazy to google it.

[Icarus]

its been too long i lost interest. maybe it will show up on piratebay :D

Total dick move.

[mer]

nothing on itunes yet.

[ivebeenshotafied]

netflix -at end of august i believe/heard today
and its on comcast xfinity.

[EFS]

its been too long i lost interest. maybe it will show up on piratebay :D


Thats how i feel about you and your glass. Show some respect!

[ALIEN!]

got my copy on the playstation, great job to everyone involved, well done, really, this was the inspiration I've needed lately. Thanks Sling & Co.

[mango51]

got it on itunes for $15, fuckin loved every minute

[hashmasta-kut]

Total dick move.

totally hooked you lil fishy ;)

[TlkQ]

its been too long i lost interest. maybe it will show up on piratebay :D

Wow Kutt. Wow. After all the effort he put into this movie this is the attitude you are going to take? Weren't you the one bitching that you had to go to a trade show to see it? Seriously, how much time do you spend every day thinking up new ways to be an anti-social, narcissistic asshole? Maybe if you spent that time thinking about glass you might be capable of producing more than just one shape.

Seriously, I think I speak for way more than me when I say go away. If this is the response you are going to take towards a really important moment in our industries history, then you clearly don't deserve/care to be a part of it. Just go away. Please.


[Also, if this gets me an infraction I'll wear it proudly. Fuck this Canadian metal-huffer and his negative-Nancy attitude.]

[Swampy]

Is there a link where you can go to buy it, someone post a link where to start looking, thanks.

[d3rk]

Emailed Slinger to see where to get a hard copy. Maybe he'll respond. Maybe he won't.

[STROKER]

i think its sooo cool that slings movie has hit the mainstream already. way to go my friend. way to go.

im gonna get a hardcopy and show it to every non glass blower i know.

[Bglass]

Rented it on iTunes last night. Gonna buy it for sure.
Was well worth the wait and was a really awesome flick! Recommended to everyone!!
it's a must see if your a glassblower it shows where a lot of us came from and what inspired everything. It really shows how tied we are to eachother too which is neat.

[Dirty]

If I'm going to own this movie, I want a hard copy. Slinger should've had hard copies available as soon as it was available on other mediums through the actual website which needs to be updated anyway. Call me old school or whatever. digital copies tend to vanish some how. I never feel the digital copies are worth the money. quick rip off for itunes or whoever doesn't want to actually print it out. And if Kut wants to have that opinion, let him, who cares. you all get so wrapped up in whatever little drama you can produce. Stop talking about respect if you can't respect others thoughts and opinions. go work!!!!!

[Tsnider]

saw it on xbox live, very cool and very well done. makes me wish even more for some folks to work with locally.

[daveabr]

which video app on xbox has it?

[Julian]

You mean you guys couldn't tell kut was trolling/joking, somewhat of a reference to the previous exchanges?
Being sanctimonious is a bit boring, seriously.

I'm feeling a bit misinterpreted myself lately. Why the fuck is everyone so serious and ready to take things in a negative way?

[Dan Kooper]

Ive been waiting for ever and kinda forgot about it. Pumped its available now

[Kevin Bumble]

film rocks cool it is available for my fam to see really explains what I have been up to.




lol julian... EVERY ONE IS SOOOOO ANGRY. RAWWWWWWW!!!

[daveabr]

agreed bumble. i want to show to a lot of my friends, mom/dad/brother. rather excited

[e.ross]

Already watched it on comcast at the shop, and am downloading off Itunes now. Thanks Sling!!

[MarioSC]

I'm really wantin a hardcopy of this too! No cable at home and tha only internet I have is on my phone. This sux! I'm dying to check this out!

[Julian]

The movie's great... it tells the story in a perfect way to help people totally clueless begin to understand what. the glass pipe scene is all about. The historic parts in the beginning are more coherent and effective than the later parts, in my opinion (I've seen the film 5 times, mainly in very good theaters in Austin for SXSW).

Music kills throughout... for months I've found myself thinking of a song, then realize it's from Slinger's film. Sell the soundtrack!

[Ness]

Yeh the ball did get dropped on the hard copy, but after all the $ and work he dumped into just producing it, i can imagine why he didnt want to have to worry about all the stuff involved with producing a hard copy just yet.

Plus this will allow him to re-coop some of his expenses w/out having to shell out additional to get it on a dvd and into ppls hands.

I bought it on itunes mainly just to support the guy's hard work. I know a lot of us have watched him struggle to get this thing finished and I couldnt be happier that he produced such a well-made film that is being received so positively by the community.

ANd to the ppl talking stupid shit like 'just waiting to pirate it'... man... i understand thats the common idea in today''s society, but still... this is one of our own working his ass off to produce something that will hopefully work to A) inform the general public of what we actually do with our abilities and B) get more publicity out there for anyone involved w making pipes. If you have a disrespectful comment such as this, just keep that dumb shit to urself. It doesnt help the environment of the forum, nor does the wave of flames that is bound to come from it.

Congrats on a job well done Slinger!

J

[daveabr]

I'm sure the hard copy had to do with the fact that film festivals will not accept a movie that is out on DVD already. So, in order to the film fest circuit, there could be no DVD.


Who needs a DVD anyway? Streaming is pretty much the only way to go these days. Available on our phones, tvs, game consoles, and everything else. The production costs of a DVD are hardly worth it. Plus, as soon as it's on DVD, people start ripping, burning, and uploading on pirate sites. He can protect it better, and not have to do the leg work for getting DVD's made. Sure he could've just burnt a bunch of copies on blanks, but they would not look professional. So, I feel he probably did the smart thing.

[d3rk]

I guess if I ever blow up my house I'll still have my iTunes! I'm too young to be old-school, but I like tangible. Although, that's a good point Dave.

[e.ross]

FYI: You can gift the movie in Itunes. I just sent a copy to my mom!!

[Melkio]

I watched it last night at 3am on xbox (They have it on ZUNE) was truely Inspirational . I want a Hard copy as soon as its availible! Really want to show my family =D

[Icarus]

I guess if I ever blow up my house I'll still have my iTunes!

Until Apple changes their terms of service.

[Ness]

I'm sure the hard copy had to do with the fact that film festivals will not accept a movie that is out on DVD already. So, in order to the film fest circuit, there could be no DVD.


Ah, I did not know that about film festivals.

[Boozeclues]

Kudos to all involved. I have watched it 3 times so far. Once with my mom and 82yr old grandma.

They are convinced that Bob Snodgrass must test all his products personally and Jerome Baker needs to wash his mouth out with soap. They really liked seeing the progression of the art and were blown away by some of the pieces in the film. They liked when Snic took that electroformed piece out and their jaws were on the ground seeing Buck's ship.

I cant wait to show it to more people.

[Ness]

HAHa someone should have written the JErome Baker guy a script. Maybe he would have added something of value to the doc...

"LIke CRAZY phat parties Brawhhhw, I mean, you know brawwhHH."

rofl

[ALIEN!]

I vote best time lapse effect EVER.

Hearing about the history straight from Bob was such a treat. I had a big smile ear to ear through the whole film (except maybe the headhunter/ pipedreams segment)

I almost fell out of my chair when I discovered I'd talked to Jerome Baker before and NEVER FUCKING KNEW IT

[drew1492]

Would love to have a hard copy but went ahead and got it on the ps3 network.

[Torch-Bug]

Why the fuck is everyone so serious and ready to take things in a negative way?

Stop yelling at me !!!:wes:

[Julian]

Might as well note, there is no person named Jerome Baker... like Jason Harris notes in the film, that's a made up personality named after Jerry Garcia.

[Torch-Bug]

Noted
/\/\/\

[Boozeclues]

Might as well note, there is no person named Jerome Baker... like Jason Harris notes in the film, that's a made up personality named after Jerry Garcia.

Is Slinger's first name really Marble? :blowkiss:

[Nomad]

I just rented it on video on demand. It is a cool movie but something went wrong and the movie was skipping. So I called the cable company and complained. I wanted to see the uninterupted version. So I have it rented until saturday and I will have to watch it again without the movie skipping.

[spiralout]

what movie are you all talking about? is it really about our industry?

[slinger]

Was just coming over here to post about this,,,,


"Degenerate Art" is now available for rental thru most cable television providers: OnDemand Comcast/Xfinity, Charter, Cox, Time-Warner etc... And for sale and rental thru Itunes, Xbox, Playstation, Zune, and coming soon to Amazon VOD....

Hard copy DVD coming mid August, which will include a fold out poster....

*i was hoping to have the hard copy ready to go with he digital release, but it didnt work out, i could have maybe delayed the digital release, but i wanted it to be out there asap for people who have been anticipating it.... Thanks for the interest and support!

[bildo]

In which format does the purchase benefit you the most? I would like to support you in whichever way effects your pockets in the best way. Thanks for makin the flick, I cant wait to show my mom.

[bowlpusher]

Big up$ Slinger. I caught the film in Detroit. So fucking good. It really solidifies a timeline for pipemakers. Jason Harris bit cracked me up. Bob's segment is priceless. This really opens up public awareness above and beyond pipe users. This is bigger than big time, this is huge time.

[d3rk]

Sweet!

[Julian]

No doubt, there are at least 10 hilarious quotable lines in the movie. Ask Pogo for the best ones.

Oh, and I'll give a rod of Nile to anyone who can transcribe what Dan K. was saying about how New Jersey is a little whatever for 'someone from Keezie's (?) backyard'.. Whose backyard? What's that all about?

[Ness]

No doubt, there are at least 10 hilarious quotable lines in the movie. Ask Pogo for the best ones.

Oh, and I'll give a rod of Nile to anyone who can transcribe what Dan K. was saying about how New Jersey is a little whatever for 'someone from Keezie's (?) backyard'.. Whose backyard? What's that all about?

lol I thought he was referring to Ken Kesey, and I figured by that he meant someone who used a lot of ac!d

...now wheres my Nile?!

[Forche]

Man bringing back the memories of the good old days at UM. Eush lived with me when he made that monster piece...sickest piece i've seen made from start to finish. Beerl Steez influenced me in a big way 6 years ago and would buy her if i had a spare 6 g's. :D:bouncy:

[CosmicGlassInc]

Slinger killed it! Epic film! Cant wait to show a hard copy to my family.

[Lever2stackS]

Just watched it last night what an awesome movie my wife and I really enjoy'd it, Thanks for all the hard work put into it.

[Pogo]

lol I thought he was referring to Ken Kesey, and I figured by that he meant someone who used a lot of ac!d


I said the same thing, cuckoo's nest FTW....
I hear there is Closed captioning on the cable rental versions however... :)

I've been dropping quotes on the reg since SXSW

*"Sure, I'll move to Eu-Gene" - Bob Snodgrass

[Belliott]

whats a crack pipe? never heard of that. :D

[Torch-Bug]

Just got the film off Itunes

Wow great film. Thank you slinger and crew that made this happen.


Going to make my in laws watch

[Nomad]

killer movie. It is exciting seeing glass pipes getting so much attention. Watching glass being made on TV made me stoked to work.

[hashmasta-kut]

Wow Kutt. Wow.


[Also, if this gets me an infraction I'll wear it proudly. Fuck this Canadian metal-huffer and his negative-Nancy attitude.]


wow tlkq, just wow. i just spelled it out it the post above yours; cant you take a joke? if not, then you are one.

[Shatner]

I'm sure the hard copy had to do with the fact that film festivals will not accept a movie that is out on DVD already. So, in order to the film fest circuit, there could be no DVD.


Who needs a DVD anyway? Streaming is pretty much the only way to go these days. Available on our phones, tvs, game consoles, and everything else. The production costs of a DVD are hardly worth it. Plus, as soon as it's on DVD, people start ripping, burning, and uploading on pirate sites. He can protect it better, and not have to do the leg work for getting DVD's made. Sure he could've just burnt a bunch of copies on blanks, but they would not look professional. So, I feel he probably did the smart thing.

I'd rather have a Blu-Ray copy than streaming or digi copy. Call me old school. I just like physical media. Shit, I still use CD. I don't even own an iPod. I also use a record player and still buy vinyl, too.

I can't find it on Comcast's Xfinity Demand. :(

[daveabr]

sounds like he's going to have it in dvd format also. so, all will have the option.

[Julian]

I'm going to torrent it, then give Slinger 10 bucks next time I see him.

This is punk rock and shit, right?

[Julian]

lol I thought he was referring to Ken Kesey, and I figured by that he meant someone who used a lot of ac!d

...now wheres my Nile?!

Damn, this is why the internet exists! Thank you, you'll get your Nile due.

[Ness]

Damn, this is why the internet exists! Thank you, you'll get your Nile due.

Lol was just fooling about the Nile. Alrdy got a 1/4lb of it that cant seem to find its purpose..

[ALIEN!]

totally stoked to have a digital copy, but would like to have a blu-ray in the inevitable event my playstation dies, any time frame on blu-ray?

[Amorphous]

great work Slinger! thank you for putting it together and for all the artists who were willing to share their stories and faces as it seems like this must still be a little scary from a legal standpoint. It was really great to get the history and see some totally awesome ART! Definitely agree with the statements that someday, hopefully soon, this kind of work will get the respect it deserves in the "art" world.

What I respect above all else is that not only are these pipes great art, but they are fully functional as well, to me that makes it a cut above just beautiful sculpture with no purpose other that to look cool.

[d3rk]

Bong

That's all I got to say

[Hazeey]

^^^^
zilla!

Can't wait!

[old school drue]

Watched twice in last 2 days. Very inspiring. Nice to see them pay homage to old Bob n Cam crew from back in day. Mad respect and props to all the brothers and sisters in the film. Mad props to Slinger!! Great presentation and way to wake up society to this awesome art form.

As we use to say back in day, word up homie! Flame on pyros...

YOU DEFF WANNA SEE THIS MOVIE! Thanks Old School Drue Downs

[menty666]

I don't even make pipes and I liked it quite a bit. I got it via iTunes but I'll pick up a disc when they come out because I'm paranoid about data loss too. Virtual goods deserve virtual money.

But they do make life easier.

[slinger]

No doubt, there are at least 10 hilarious quotable lines in the movie. Ask Pogo for the best ones.

Oh, and I'll give a rod of Nile to anyone who can transcribe what Dan K. was saying about how New Jersey is a little whatever for 'someone from Keezie's (?) backyard'.. Whose backyard? What's that all about?

What he means by Ken Kesey's backyard is Oregon, but the comment has a cultural connotation to it as well, meaning not only does he come from the physical place where Kesey is from, but also the same culture/mind-set...

Dvd and blu ray coming in August, should be dropping it first at the AGE show Aug 12 in Vegas, they will NOT be available before that date, so if you are jonesing watch a digital version, thanks all for the support, a film is nothing with out and audience, i made this for everyone in this community!

Be proud to push bowls!

[Pogo]

^FUCK YES. Gonna buy a few copies. Every time I even think of this movie I get extremely proud of the glass scene. Sling and Dan Collins killed this one. :D

"You don't know how tough it was to be one of the cavemen..... Embarrassing, really." -Dan K. , Degenerate Art <- One of SO MANY GREAT QUOTES

[daveabr]

we are going to watch it tonight. inviting some local guys over who've not seen it yet.

[nickglassdood]

It does have some freeking awesome quotes
...
And I think carneys point, nj is even culture shock for people from boston

But great job slinger making a movie I intend to watch.again and again

[jac1961]

Someone hep an old fart out. I've looked for it on Time-Warners On Demand and haven't been able to find it... even did a search for 'Degenerate' with no luck. Anyone know what heading in On Demand it would be under?

Def be buying a blueray when it comes out.

[Nomad]

I think it was under art films on time-warner On Demand. But I saw it on time warner cable on demand a few days ago and it should be there still.

[MarioSC]

Finally watched it! Ended up renting it twice. Once on iTunes then again on zune. Tha intro alone got me very hype! Can't wait to own it on DVD when it drops! Might have to get somebody goin to tha AGE show to pick one up for me.

Awesome job on tha movie Slinger!

[somewhere]

Bought it on iTunes and we watched it lays night in the shop. Slinger did a incredible job huge props to all the hard work. Really enjoyed it if your a piper this is the kind of inspiration that will push your work a little further and make you proud to be part of it. Must see!

[Amorphous]

I rented it through the Playstation network, best few bucks I've spent in weeks!

[Aymie]

Amazing film. Been sharing it with everyone I can. Going to have my gramma watch it...she is already amazed by what we do. I could watch it over and over. I cried both times in the theatre. Cheesy maybe (my crying I mean) but it moved me in a serious way. I have been uninspired as shit lately. Just thinking about the movie produced some nifty work during my limited torch time.

And Kut, I get that you think you are being funny, but if no one laughs, you are doing it wrong. You have been rude about this more than once. It's gone way beyond getting old. Show some respect...please. Cool if you have an attitude about some of us, but this film is a seriously valuable gift to our community and the makers deserve respect, period.

[hashmasta-kut]

And Kut, I get that you think you are being funny, but if no one laughs, you are doing it wrong.


thanks for the advice, very thoughtful of you, but if only one person laughs, the humor has been effective. it doesn't have to be for your benefit. most jokes are at someone elses expense, its human nature :)

[PyroChixRock]

Really? you think it's funny? I don't believe you.

[Icarus]

thanks for the advice, very thoughtful of you, but if only one person laughs, the humor has been effective. it doesn't have to be for your benefit. most jokes are at someone elses expense, its human nature :)

Damn dude, you hit on it! I don't know what I was thinking man, you are dialed in! Fuck giving you a hard time, I'm joining the Kuttites. They saw the genius of this man long long ago.

All hail Kut!

Hail Kut!

[Icarus]

Hail Kut!

[Icarus]

Amen.

[daveabr]

watched last night, and enjoyed it all over it again. so nice to have this out there for the masses to see. big time ups to slinger for throwin it down!

[TlkQ]

if only one person laughs, the humor has been effective. it doesn't have to be for your benefit.

No Kut. If you are the only one laughing it's called masturbating. Not to be done in public.

[Dan Kooper]

Itunes sucks. Been trying to watch it fir an hour. Or this kids computer is junk. I seen up till 4:21 it stops in clintons piece. That 4:21 is sweet though. Got goosebumps.

[WCGMille]

Does anyone know if I buy it on Itunes if I can burn it to a disk and watch on a real tv...I don't want to have to watch it on the computer :/

[phortwantie]

I used FRAPS to record the rental, then converted the resulting 64GB avi file to DVD using "Convert X to DVD" software. Was a pain in the ass but it worked. I am pretty computer savvy and it still took me several tries to get a clean looking copy. Sending you a PM.

[Boozeclues]

I used FRAPS to record the rental, then converted the resulting 64GB avi file to DVD using "Convert X to DVD" software. Was a pain in the ass but it worked. I am pretty computer savvy and it still took me several tries to get a clean looking copy. Sending you a PM.

Dont fucking pirate this.

[phortwantie]

I wanted to watch it on my fucking TV. It's not like I am fucking making it available for people to download.

[Boozeclues]

I wanted to watch it on my fucking TV. It's not like I am fucking making it available for people to download.

So what are you telling people to PM you about? Cookie recipes?

[phortwantie]

TBH the first time I read his message I thought he said he had purchased, and he was perplexed as to how he could watch it on his TV. I feel that anyone that pays for a copy of something deserves to have a backup of that material, and be able to watch it in any way they want. I am not distributing this freely and will likely purchase several hard copies for friends and family upon it's release. Thanks for your concern though.

[phortwantie]

I know you were just lookin out for Slinger, and protecting his baby from zero rep nubs. I'm not a scumbag though... Least I try to not be. Was just tryin to help someone out cuz I know it is aggrivating that you cannot easily watch your Itunes DLs on TV. And it is a total pain to get around their BS (IMO) DRM.

[2wheeler]

[QUOTE=phortwantie;682157]I used FRAPS to record the rental.

So you own a copy for $4?

[Chad S]

Guilty as charged.. Couldn't just wait till mid August to score a hard copy?

[Dan Kooper]

I paid 4$ on itunes for 4 minutes then drove to a different house and paid 5$ for the charter download. Was an awesome movie. Way better than op pipes movie.

[phortwantie]

I already mentioned that I am going to be buying multiple hard copies upon release... Anyway lets get back to talking about this glorious masterwork that Mr Slinger has bestowed upon mankind. I love every single minute. Great editing, soundtrack, interviews, imagery. Love the way it lays out the narrative of the subculture in a cohesive manner. A progression of events that has been shrouded in mystery for many. Really shed alot of light on things for me. He has given us something that we can show the world and be proud of. I also love of the Tubman HD segments really tie it all together into a nice package. Bravo!

[parvatia]

phortwantie, great fucking avatar photo. the movie was very good, had 2 out of 3 of my favorite glassblowers, clinton and hamm but alas, no steve rogers?

[menty666]

Yeah! Don't look at the guy recording the rental instead of paying the 14.99 for a copy to legitimately keep. What were you thinking? God. Ugh. I mean really. Sheesh.

Dude, douche move.

[phortwantie]

Wanted to watch it on my TV, and I have every intent of purchasing several DVD and BluRay copies. Didn't feel like spending 15 bux on something I must watch in Itunes. Least I didn't just go download a torrent. Keep judging.

[menty666]

I have my computer set up to pump the output over to the tv.

Modern technology's swell.

[phortwantie]

phortwantie, great fucking avatar photo.

Not too bad yourself. :mushy:

[phortwantie]

I have my computer set up to pump the output over to the tv.

Modern technology's swell.

My home theater PC was on the fritz. gg

[phortwantie]

...Anyway, back to the movie... one of my fav quotes was "Watch out pimp!". Anyone remember that part?

[d3rk]

Dude, wtf?

[phortwantie]

You don't remember that part?

[Slow]

I tried to torrent Slinger's movie, but I just ended up with a documentary from the 90's about Nazi paintings...

[/joke]

[phortwantie]

:D I saw that out there too.

[d3rk]

Yes I remember the random black dude.
Here's a tip for ya: Don't ever come to a community of people and say you're going to or have already ripped a copy of a flick that community supports. Whether you say you're gonna buy a copy, not gonna hand copies out, whatever, just mentioning you're rippin copies is straight disrespect to the very community that made that movie happen.

[phortwantie]

I can see how you might feel that way. Was not my intent to disrespect anyone. Was trying to help someone watch it in the comfort of their living room with their friends and family rather than huddled around a computer monitor. I don't feel like I did anything unethical since I have purchased a rental once and will be buying several copies in the future. Hopefully we can continue to discuss the movie rather than the fact that I put my download onto a dvd until its full release. Pretty insignificant really.

[sasch74]

I checked with Itunes Germany every day for a week and now I finally got it, gonna watch it NOW:bouncy:

Best 14€ I spent today, easiest too.

Thanks Slinger for making it intercontinental!

[phortwantie]

That Mickelson/Banjo collab was insane. Angels and demons ascending the double helix. With and angel/demon hybrid at the apex. Was that a functional piece?

[WigWagScaliwag]

I can see how you might feel that way. Was not my intent to disrespect anyone. Was trying to help someone watch it in the comfort of their living room with their friends and family rather than huddled around a computer monitor. I don't feel like I did anything unethical since I have purchased a rental once and will be buying several copies in the future. Hopefully we can continue to discuss the movie rather than the fact that I put my download onto a dvd until its full release. Pretty insignificant really.

A rental is just that. A rental. Isn't going up to Blockbuster, renting a movie, and ripping it onto a DVD still considered pirating? And then just turn around an act like you didn't just shit on slinger's troth (reference anybody?)

Looks like a sick ass movie. Only seen the trailer on youtube. Is there any way to preorder the DVD?

[phortwantie]

I can watch Blockbuster rentals on my tv, and I can also purchase hard copies of all of their movies if I wish to. If I were putting my rip up for download on some torrent site I think your point would be valid, but I was ripping it for my own personal use until I can acquire the real deal. And I will be paying for several of them. I shat upon noone.

[Greenhorse Glass]

Page 6 of this thread now sucks. Thanks pirate douche.

Great flic. Own it outright on the Xbox and I'll be picking up the Bly-ray when it drops for some bonus content I'm hoping.

[phortwantie]

Right I'm done here. I've made my case. At this point everyone just wants to step on me to make themselves look better. I tried to change the subject several times. Sorry for trying to help out a fellow member to watch his download on his TV. I suggest everyone purchase as many copies as they can, and give them as gifts. That is all...

[WigWagScaliwag]

You said you purchased a rental. Rentals are not permanent. Same way if you rent a movie through Blockbuster on your TV. If you are recording said movie and then ripping it to DVD, you just shat.

[phortwantie]

Now you are ruining page 7.

[menty666]

You do know that the fair use argument only remotely applies to things you actually purchased, right? Renting it and making a copy would be theft. In this case it's made even worse by doing it to someone in this community.

And the "I'm going to buy several copies" nonsense makes about as much sense as me walking into a Ferrari dealership, taking a car for test drive and telling them I'm going to just keep it without paying, but I plan to make diamonds fall out of my ass, and I'll be back later in the week to purchase three more cars with those.

[Dan Kooper]

Clean up, isle 5-7

[Icarus]

Is that dead horse I smell?

[Mr. Wonka]

Only one of these statements are true:

1: Downloading, copying, and sharing copyright material is wrong

2: Selectively choosing what copyright material to download, copy or share is right

Which statement is correct?

Tom

[Matt P]

Bought last night, and now have on my PS3. As soon as it had completed downloading, a heard a "pshshsssshhhhhhhzzzzzzttttttttttt-----ding!" and a big cloud of smoke billowed around my PS3, when the smoke cleared...I had a PS4! That movie was so good, it evolved my playstation!

That being said, so glad I watched it. Best $15 dollars I've spent in a while. I will likely watch it again tonight as well since I bought it. I'll also be buying a hardcopy when/wherever I can.

Slinger and everyone else involved, great work! I can't wait to start indoctrinating my friends and family with this! The film was amazing. I loved the chronological sense to it, the way it showed the evolution of the culture, and its path from underground, to further underground. Loved all the interviews, the soundtrack was perfect too! The OPD section was just long enough, and in the right spot. The interviews all felt very personal, like I was there for it. Sometimes interviews come across as such....will filmed interviews. But that's not what I want to see, and I didn't in this film.

I could go on and on...

Again, awesome job everyone, I'm now even prouder to push bowls!!

[Adapt]

Wow! Watched this last week and will be showing my family this weekend.

It's so hard to explain pipemaking to people sometimes without coming off like a hippy talking about pipe dreams. People just don't know how complex the pipe scene has become, or that there even is a pipe scene. This film is a great way to let people what we're doing.

Thanks Slinger for giving this community such a great ambassador to the general public!

[Matt P]

Thanks Slinger for giving this community such a great ambassador to the general public!

This ^

If pipemakers had missionaries, they would take this door to door...

[ALIEN!]

I was particularly impressed by the editing. I know Mickelson is for the most part decent to the pipers, but his comments toward them at the end of his bit seemed a bit sour and were even kind of hurtful (Why NOT make it a pipe Robert, poke poke) followed up PERFECTLY by a great comment from Jason Lee.

BTW, Sling, will there be a $oundtrack release? Dug the music, and the way it was edited in with the video.


Bong

[Aymie]

RAM's opinion has evolved over the years. He wasn't always a fan.

[Julian]

He was hardly opposed to pipe makers, though and has long been quite influential. When I took a couple of his classes in 2000, his attitude was basically what he described at first... that the hippie thing is dead, and why would people want to listen to the Grateful Dead and make pot pipes? He groaned when Dave put on the first GD album, and said he'd listened to way more than enough of that in the 70s.

I certainly never heard him act scornful or opposed to pipes like many people in the art glass community - or make us feel unwelcome in the way that some of the entrenched art community folks have done. But, he did encourage pipe makers do broaden their horizons as far as being willing to make items that aren't pipes. Or, not always make something a pipe just because.... which is kind of funny, now, of course because RAM is basically making the same items as ever, and making them pipes. At least it's not out of habit or a lack of imagination, though.

[parvatia]

in the 80s and 90s they sold dual cassette vcrs and boomboxes just so you could dub other cassettes. i used to dub every single movie i rented for years. as far as i know its not illegal to dub them, as long as youre not profiting from selling the dubbed copy.

[Icarus]

Okay. That's funny.

[Julian]

I purchased the video last night. I mean fuck, if you don't have $15 you shouldn't be on here. Go get to fucking work, jesus christ.

Anyway, then my brother wouldn't watch it with me. Ha!

[Aymie]

He was hardly opposed to pipe makers, though and has long been quite influential. When I took a couple of his classes in 2000, his attitude was basically what he described at first... that the hippie thing is dead, and why would people want to listen to the Grateful Dead and make pot pipes? He groaned when Dave put on the first GD album, and said he'd listened to way more than enough of that in the 70s.

I certainly never heard him act scornful or opposed to pipes like many people in the art glass community - or make us feel unwelcome in the way that some of the entrenched art community folks have done. But, he did encourage pipe makers do broaden their horizons as far as being willing to make items that aren't pipes. Or, not always make something a pipe just because.... which is kind of funny, now, of course because RAM is basically making the same items as ever, and making them pipes. At least it's not out of habit or a lack of imagination, though.


I wasn't implying that at all, but probably good of you to clear up my statement. I tend to be less wordy since my computer broke.

[amanofmusic]

Amazing! this movie makes me so proud to be a part of this scene! ive watched it five times and cant wait to show my family and friends. I love it all... Thanks Slinger

[Abe Fleishman]

The movie is huge for all of us involved and poeple that arint involved to wake them up to what we are doing. I have watched the movie over 100 times and cant seem to get enough. Each time I watch it i see more that was there before. I have been behind sling on this movie for years and waited and waited and waited and now BOOM it drops. We all are very proud and joyful for the release to the mainstreem. This movie costs so much to produce so any time you rent buy and buy hard copy you support the MAN himself Slinger our trusted brotha from anotha mother.
Abe

[jac1961]

I got to watch the movie tonight and I was completely blown away. The production and content were both excellent. I have it on On Demand until tomorrow night and I'll definitely watch it again.

As a collector I think I now have a much better idea of what the movement is all about and a much deeper appreciation for what all you people are doing. I have been completely aware for awhile now that pipe art IS the cutting edge of glass art, but I just didn't understand the total scope it all. I was dumbfounded by the variety of shapes, colors, techniques and forms being made. I really makes my want to unload my marble collection and switch to functional. Damn... those pieces are just beautiful!

I also completely agree that those pipes belong in mainstream galleries, museums' glass collections and some day the Smithsonian. NPR should talk about it and PBS should play that movie. The only problem is that the mainstream has ruined and sodomized a lot other cool things that were once underground. I'd hate to someday see handmade glass pipes on a shelf in Target, on HSN or featured in its very own reality show. Maybe it's best if not everybody knows about it.

[bridging boro glass]

you are right ^^^^but whatever happens is what happened, (Skateboarding, Ed Hardy, Dali, Shepard fairy, LRG, all in main steam shopping outlets, the list could go on, but any press is good press!)

[Aymie]

I would dig it if we could sling prodo on HSN.

[GDEADWHALE]

^Watching the overly enthusiastic hosts on HSN slinging prodo would be priceless.

[Matt P]

Buy now and receive not one, NOT two, not even three! We'll give you 4, yes 4, wrap n rake spoons, if you buy today! BUT WAIT!!! We'll throw in a silver fumed, dish and dabber set for free!!

WOW! And thats not all! Buy in the next 5 minutes, we'll include this fabulous set of 10, yes, 10 mushroom pendants!

Lol @ hsn

[jac1961]

Even better when they had Snoddy on as a special guest. lol

[Glastronaut]

I watched it today...loved it!!! What an inspiration for a newbie flame worker. Thanks to all who have paved the way. I can't wait to find my voice in this community.

[rvp117]

Ya know Artists like Slinger actually pay to advertise their film on these networks, Itunes, Amazon, PSN. He took a huge chance promoting his film like this. Pipe making has a limited audience and I don't think outside of the glass community their will be many supporters of the art. This is a huge deal and supporting it is putting money back into the community.

[rvp117]

OOPS....I was reading all the drama earlier...great film worth every penny!

[Aymie]

You are wrong about supporters outside of this community.

Glad you saw the movie glastronaut. Awesome right?

[Bunyip]

Not seeing it on my AT&T U-Verse... :(

Edit: Checking the PS3 when I can be bothered to turn it on... Reading is fundamental ;)

[Aaron Ellis]

I'm a bartender as well as a lampworker, and I got a chance to watch this movie in Eugene when I went to the DFO. Being a bartender I'm use to talking to the public. Albeit it is Eugene but the regulars at the bar we had the showing at loved the movie and they sat with us and watched the entire film even the staff enjoyed it.
I do a lot of promoting my glass at my bar, and old and young alike are intrigued by glass pipes I see a group of hunters come in and show them a pic of RAM's guns and there jaws drop. Glass is amazing and everyone knows it some just don't know it yet. Thanx to slinger they will soon enough.

[codeflunky]

I bought it off iTunes in the UK with no problems. Excellent work, very inspirational.

[HoneyCombOver]

Glass is amazing and everyone knows it some just don't know it yet. Thanx to slinger they will soon enough.

I dig this.

Just saw the movie today and I loved every minute of it. Tons of respect to the guys back in the Snodgrass revolution constantly re-inventing the medium. I love how they compare it to hip hop and skateboarding numerous times. Both things that in their youth were constantly pushing the boundaries of their field with each new album or trick respectively.

I also loved seeing all the contemporary pieces and pausing it frequently to rub one out. I have no idea how these guys handle these giant sculptural pieces of glass with the ease of spinning a marble.

Can anyone help me figure out who made a certain piece though? It's a large bub with a bunch of black/"fire" themed reversal sections and these amazingly struck Amber Purple (or similar) horns that were holding a bic lighter in the picture.

Anywho, GREAT work to Slinger and all involved in this project. I love the constant push for acceptance of pipes as a legitimate form of art. I'm no artist but I've seen enough mind-blowing pieces to know that there's quite a few out there.

[Delta9]

I have watched the movie over 100 times and cant seem to get enough. Each time I watch it i see more that was there before.
Abe

X2 ..I think I have to put it on to even sleep at night, best 15 bones ever spent.

[Aymie]

The studio where I work bought it. Every student has watched and loved it.

And despite my lack of observation, I am in it. I felt like mike on monsters inc being excited about his magazine cover. But none the less, this movie is our story, and I am there.

[Hefe]

slinger definitely outdid himself with this doc

so professional, great footage, great interviews..awesome from top to bottom

[Slow]

No cable, no PS3/Xbox, no iTunes, so... Excitedly awaiting the DVD release! Soon, right?

[faded]

No cable, no PS3/Xbox, no iTunes, so... Excitedly awaiting the DVD release! Soon, right?



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=407246869332762&set=a.150909531633165.30228.100001423569113&type=1


:bouncy:

[Slow]

Ha; sweet! Clearly I don't have a Facebook account either...

Here's to hoping a pile of these makes it to AGI!

[loydb]

Ready for the blue ray as soon as it's available!

[Chad S]

Hard copy is finally out on DVD w/ free poster. Scoop it up now and support Slinger & the glass movement. If you already seen it, watch it again. If you haven't seen it, where the hell you been?

Mad props to Slinger & Crew for their hard dedicated work, to make this film available.

Buy online here:

www.thedablab.com

www.highpriorityglass.com

www.ouchkick.com

[faded]

Hard copy is finally out on DVD w/ free poster. Scoop it up now and support Slinger & the glass movement. If you already seen it, watch it again. If you haven't seen it, where the hell you been?

Mad props to Slinger & Crew for their hard dedicated work, to make this film available.

Buy online here:

www.thedablab.com

www.highpriorityglass.com

www.ouchkick.com

why are they all different prices? :twitch:

[Chad S]

Prices vary due to location, taxes, & shipping. Stop counting pennies, your only talking a couple of bucks. Either way you'll get your moneys worth.

I bought a hard copy from the dab lab, $25 even. Free shipping & no tax.

[faded]

Prices vary due to location, taxes, & shipping. Stop counting pennies, your only talking a couple of bucks. Either way you'll get your moneys worth.

I bought a hard copy from the dab lab, $25 even. Free shipping & no tax.

i assume slinger charges a specific rate, which is most likely the same no matter the location. the base prices in those 3 links are all different. it appears to me as if OTHER people are making a few extra coins simply because they can. it's not my pennies i'm wondering about, it the retailers who are increasing the prices that i question.

i'll be purchasing my hard copy from my local glass distributor. he should be back from vegas by this weekend. i support my local community. :)

[jac1961]

All 3 of those links only have a DVD version.

Does anyone know if a Blueray version is/will be available? Might as well make that sweet glass look as good as possible!

[d3rk]

Hard copy is finally out on DVD w/ free poster. Scoop it up now and support Slinger & the glass movement. If you already seen it, watch it again. If you haven't seen it, where the hell you been?

Mad props to Slinger & Crew for their hard dedicated work, to make this film available.

Buy online here:

www.thedablab.com

www.highpriorityglass.com

www.ouchkick.com


Repped for sharing. Thanks!

[MarioSC]

Thanx for tha link Twist! I've been waitin for this to come out on DVD. Got my order in!:D

[daveabr]

Had the pleasure of being Sling's neighbor @ AGE. Looked like the DVD's were flying. I'm sure there will be more at Glassroots. Enjoy those DVD's and show everyone the movie!

[Kineglass]

Watching this again on itunes. what a great purchase!

[Conscious Pilot]

I was told this was once available on netflix to stream. Should only be a matter of months before it is again.

[Stidd]

Absolutely amazing. As soon as it ended... I had to restart it. Knew there had to be something I missed and sure enough there was.
Plenty...

Great visuals... Eye Candy was incredibly sweet... Great soundtrack... All around brilliant.
Can't wait to see more presentations from M. Slinger.

Cici n'est pas une pipe

[Hazeey]

Gettin' mine at glassroots, straight from the source!

[Sparkey]

All 3 of those links only have a DVD version.

Does anyone know if a Blueray version is/will be available? Might as well make that sweet glass look as good as possible!

I 2nd that...where's the HD flavor?

[Belliott]

I was at AGE and talked to slinger he said blu-ray costs a lot more to make so he would get to it as soon as he could. to me that sounded like he was going to do them but not soon

[Stidd]

you know what... That's a good thing IMO...
Let him re-release in blu-ray!

How many times has Lucas released Star Wars and banked on it every time. I know collectors that have to have every version.
Releasing Blu-Ray in the future can be a really good and profitable thing for Slinger. I hope this does well for him for years to come!

[jac1961]

Only thing that I worry about is waiting for the Blueray, the DVD's sell out in the meantime, and then for some unforeseen reason the Blueray never happens.

I know, I worry too much. :o:

[ALIEN!]

yeah, waiting for the blu-ray myself, got the version from playstation network already so DVD would be a downgrade for me, so come on blu-ray! :bouncy:

[Matt P]

yeah, waiting for the blu-ray myself, got the version from playstation network already so DVD would be a downgrade for me, so come on blu-ray! :bouncy:

that's where I'm at too. I was super happy to hear that PSN was carrying it!

[big tom]

Hey Slinger! Do I get a free copy if I'm in the film..hehehee. I just rented it on demand cause a friend told me they saw me.. Great work Bro!!!! you caught my good side...(the back of my head)...

But seriously.. is anybody selling copies in EUG.? Cornerstone? I don't like using plastic over the internet(or at all)......Had to commandeer my buddy's couch cause I don't pay for cable tv....

[istandalone24/7]

wow, just watched this on On Demand and i've got to say, what a great vid! lots of interviews...and seeing snodgrass explain how he stumbled upon silver fuming was priceless. i'm for sure ordering the dvd.

[slinger]

thanks for all the kind words and support! so im looking into getting Blu Ray version done hopefully soon, seems like there is a demand for that...

[jac1961]

thanks for all the kind words and support! so im looking into getting Blu Ray version done hopefully soon, seems like there is a demand for that...

Sweet! That makes me as happy as... well... these...

:yay

[Dan Kooper]

I would love blue ray.

[istandalone24/7]

i can't stop watching this. must get the dvd.....$2.99 on On Demand adds up lol.

[$$$$$$$]

looking for a laser disc copy over here.. can't seem to find one anywhere, what gives?

[istandalone24/7]

they still make laser disk players? i've got one i the attic that i haven't touched in 20 years....still have a copy of New Jack City still in it's wrapper lol.

[Dan Kooper]

Someone needs to film glassblowing in 3D. That would be Ill.

[LarryC]

just in case anyone is still looking for the dvd, i got mine from dab lab.

[daveabr]

we should have them soon. it'll be a privilege to carry them.

[d3rk]

we should have them soon. it'll be a privilege to carry them.

Sweet

[Aymie]

It's on Netflix now

[Dan Kooper]

Can we expect a sequel? lol

[ALIEN!]

Degenerate Art Episode II: Return of the Hamm (Heard Sling worked out something with Disney)

[Aymie]

I watched it again last night. I find new things every time. And there is some hot girls behind Hamm on both sides at 51 minutes.

[JBob]

think the blu ray is supposed to be in the next few days...cant wait for the HD glassy goodness

[jac1961]

think the blu ray is supposed to be in the next few days...cant wait for the HD glassy goodness

Hope someone throws up some links for the blueray when it hits... my Christmas gift to myself!

[Mr. Whale dick]

What do you want for the lazer disc player and new jack city....i want it...

[Mr. Whale dick]

Pm me...totaly down for a trade....

[RancherNikki]

Hope someone throws up some links for the blueray when it hits... my Christmas gift to myself!

They posted this today on the Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Degenerate-Art-The-Art-and-Culture-of-Glass-Pipes/255674777823013)

"BLU RAYs are HERE!!! Stores and online Retailers hit me up for wholesale!!!
marble.slinger @gmail .com ... if you want to support this film, and possible future projects, buying a DVD or Blu Ray is the best way! Thanks for all the support!!!!"

[CreepyBoB]

OMG just found on netflix, just awsome........made the whole fam watch:)