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tobymac420
11-17-2012, 09:30 PM
Hey guys so my friend is trying to buy his own kiln. We are just staring up so don't know shit about kilns. We found a everheat kiln it runs 1440 Watts. Would this kiln be OK for small marbles and small spoons? Its the only glass kiln we can find around us and its wicked cheap. Thanks guys

tobymac420
11-17-2012, 09:42 PM
Its a 7x7 zo kinda small

dustyg
11-17-2012, 09:55 PM
Kilns without digital controllers suck for annealing. They'll do it, but it takes more work/time. Look up annealing schedules, and imagine that for each step, instead of a computer doing it, it's you... going back to the studio... after work.

tobymac420
11-17-2012, 10:08 PM
Kilns without digital controllers suck for annealing. They'll do it, but it takes more work/time. Look up annealing schedules, and imagine that for each step, instead of a computer doing it, it's you... going back to the studio... after work.

It will be kept at his home studio so i dont think thats a issue. It will suck but kind of have no choice for the amount he has to spend. Will those work for annealing though or is it going to be to small? Here are some pics 4380543806 Its 4 1/2" deep but comes with a extra ring to make it 7

kq9ak
11-17-2012, 11:28 PM
Put the other ring under ement ring ,cut one side of lower ring make a door. save money get a controler and you will be set for aliitle while.

H1JACK3R
11-17-2012, 11:29 PM
Seems like it would do the job if it's like, basically free.

A front loading kiln would probably be better.

Though, I'm no expert.

JBob
11-17-2012, 11:44 PM
get a setpoint controller u cn hook up to whatever kiln.

tobymac420
11-17-2012, 11:49 PM
get a setpoint controller u cn hook up to whatever kiln.

Thats what i was thinking. I mean i think now looking over it again I will be buying this for sure. Its just to good of a price. Thanks guys.

tobymac420
11-17-2012, 11:57 PM
Like this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIGITAL-PID-TEMPERATURE-CONTROLLER-4-KILN-FURNACE-OVEN-ESPRESSO-COFFEE-MACHINE-/170943655520?pt=UK_BOI_Industrial_Automation_Contr ol_ET&hash=item27cd092e60

maxtsunami
11-18-2012, 06:30 AM
It's not that it would be too hard to actually run the annealing cycle by hand, just annoying. Don't plan on doing any kiln striking, because cycles like that make you babysit the kiln for at least 4-5 hours for a proper strike and anneal.

It's definitely big enough to start out, and if you do go that route I'd suggest getting a higher quality controller, that one looks foreign and cheap (I can tell because it says espresso coffee machine after the title... lol). However, your friend is reeaaaally going to hate being tied to the kiln for several hours, because it means he'll be able to work less. For instance, I usually make some pieces, plop 'em in the kiln, and it will still be on its cycle when I go to sleep. With that kiln, he would have to set away an extra 3 hours where he couldn't be making pieces and he couldn't be doing anything time consuming.

I guess it comes down to if he values his time or his money more.

smutboy420
11-18-2012, 07:58 AM
That one linked to on ebay is also just a bare controller and still would need a relay and thermocouple and some wiring to hook every thing up. To make it a kiln controller. (actually you could use the existing TC)

tobymac420
11-18-2012, 05:17 PM
Is this the complete setup? http://www.ebay.com/itm/110968213501?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649