How To Color The Glass? (Not Coating/Painting)

[gladss]

Hi everyone,

How to color a clear glass entirely such as red, orange, yellow, green, blue, etc.?

What chemical substance to make a clear glass colorful?

Is it the food coloring?

What is the process and how?

Do this food coloring be mixed when the glass is melt?

Or will the food coloring be mixed with the water first before then next mixed with the molten glass?

Thank you

[istandalone24/7]

yes just go to the supermarket and get the standard food coloring. melt a gather of clear glass, marver into a trapazoid shape and then add several drops of food coloring. then heat and mix/twist until the color is evenly distributed, being careful to keep the trapazoid shape.

[Bo Diddles]

A drill can help with the mixing process.

[istandalone24/7]

yes but make sure to use the large expensive titanium nitride coated bits...

[gladss]

yes just go to the supermarket and get the standard food coloring. melt a gather of clear glass, marver into a trapazoid shape and then add several drops of food coloring. then heat and mix/twist until the color is evenly distributed, being careful to keep the trapazoid shape.

No.

[istandalone24/7]

well if you know....why ask?
utfsf.

[gladss]

well if you know....why ask?
utfsf.

I already found the answer on the internet.

And why you give me a misled answer?

[Captain Glass]

Food coloring ?!?!? Really ?

[gladss]

Food coloring ?!?!? Really ?

That was just my initial guess.

Note that i am a really beginner and don't know anything about the glass making, etc.

[phatsol]

Crayola brand tube pull is where it's at.

[Infinity glass]

and obviously English is also not your mother tongue.

[menty666]

If I were a bartender in a western film, I'd be pulling protective shutters around the barware right now.

Do yourself a HUGE favor and always try the search first before posting for a month or so. Curiosity is a wonderful thing, but some suppositions will bring down scorn and derision.

Best of luck!

[khan]

REALLY?? you are a beginner? gezz ... well you just never know..

do ya?


Khan

[TlkQ]

I like this guy. This is like the third hilarious thread he's started. Keep 'em comin'

[LarryC]

That was just my initial guess.

Note that i am a really beginner and don't know anything about the glass making, etc.

You must be a bead maker!

[Action Glass]

Hi everyone,

How to color a clear glass entirely such as red, orange, yellow, green, blue, etc.?

What chemical substance to make a clear glass colorful?

Is it the food coloring?

What is the process and how?

Do this food coloring be mixed when the glass is melt?

Or will the food coloring be mixed with the water first before then next mixed with the molten glass?

Thank you

I mix mine with vinegar. Like easter . When you dunk it in it also tempers the glass.

[Greymatter Glass]

seriously?

1.5/10

[Greymatter Glass]

No.

Ok, I'll give this post it's own 7/10 but that doesn't affect your overall average.

[PyroChixRock]

Sigh.

I thought I left all the trolls locked up in the basement last night. Who let them out? :wes:

[nodice]

You must be a bead maker!

Why are you knocking beadmakers? Funny threads though. I laughed, I cried. Good stuff.

[shawnette]

You must be a bead maker!

Wow. You must be a _ _ _ _.

[PyroChixRock]

Haha...yeah watch out, Larry. Haven't you noticed the hidden Bead Lady Mafia here? :devilish:

The BLM doesn't mess around. :kickflip::flasher:

[PyroChixRock]

Bwahaha. See what I mean! You're in the BLM crosshairs before I could even warn you. :rollin

Go, Shawnette :chucks:

[TlkQ]

Man, I don't understand censorship. You obviously intended one of a few "vulgar" words. Is it the collection of letters you find offensive? It's clearly not the meaning behind then that is offensive, otherwise you wouldn't use them in any form, censored or otherwise.

I don't mean this as a personal attack in the slightest. I just have a problem with the concept of "bad" words.

[shawnette]

Dude, I spent 9 years in the Army in a male dominated field, then another 10 years working with engineers (mostly male). Bad words don't offend me. It's just that my mama taught me better.

[shawnette]

(I actually have a pretty foul mouth at times)

[kbinkster]

I wonder if LarryC just posted that to draw the heat off the new guy. How very altruistic! Because, surely, someone with the vast glass experience Larry has knows that bead makers know how glass is colored, since they usually have to explain it umpteen million times to everyone who looks at their beads.

[TlkQ]

I guess my question is what's better about it? If I type F**K that's ok. But if I write Fuck it's not good? The meaning behind it is clearly still the same. So it's the collection of letters you're momma taught you better than using? Or the word and the meaning behind it? Or is it all fucking silly and words only carry what power you give to them?

[UmaJulz]

harsh replies to a simple question...

nope, none of you were every young, beginners, lacking in master glass making skills... curious, not thinking about using the search function... nope, and all of you speak English so perfectly that you can criticize this guy? I think he's got balls of steel coming in here to find out more, posting amongst the likes of you all.

9/10 for creativity in the first post, and a definite 10/10 for "No."

[shawnette]

Or is it all fucking silly and words only carry what power you give to them?
This. I just didn't feel like typing out what I was thinking. I figured I'd let you all insert your own expletive. (or not)

[nodice]

I'm still stuck on food coloring. It's hard to tell if he's serious, or just messing around. He might be better off saying what he's trying to do to get advice, or maybe just pay someone on here to do it as it would save everyone time and money. The time people invested in replying already could have probably been used to do what he's trying to do. That and $60 might have already gotten the job done.

[UmaJulz]

Well, I guess that if English isn't the first language, the results from a simple search could be overwhelming, thus asking what looks like a ridiculous question might just be the fastest and easiest path... but like I said, posting amongst the likes of youall, heheh, balls of steel.

his other posts are good too... but sneaky, cuz we still don't know what he wants to make, just that the wheels are turning...

Oh, and Hey girl, what's shakin' Shawnette?

[shawnette]

Heyyyyyyy!!!

[UmaJulz]

It's been years!
Nice to see you around-
I don't go to those other forums anymore, too cra cray for me.

[shawnette]

Lol. I hear ya. I still hang out at LE. Not as much drama as there has been in the past but I don't do drama, anyway. I mostly lurk here, but sometimes I have something to say...

[nodice]

Down with le! Melting pot football rules!

[menty666]

We have a soccer team??? How about softball?

[PyroChixRock]

We have an all girls wrestling team, and a roller derby team. That's it so far.


I can't tell for sure if this guy is asking a real question or just pulling our chain. If he's really ere for help I'm sure some of us will have more appropriate answers. In the mean time...:lol

[LarryC]

Haha...yeah watch out, Larry. Haven't you noticed the hidden Bead Lady Mafia here? :devilish:

The BLM doesn't mess around. :kickflip::flasher:

Duck! Incoming! :)

[FRGartifacts]

harsh replies to a simple question...

No offense, but I wouldn't really walk into a college bio class and ask what a cell wall is. Or what photosynthesis was. A little self motivation and mental toughness/determination can't hurt anyone.

That being said, search about "blow ins, stuff and puffs" "how glass is colored" "colored glass composition" and last but not least," colored rods"

Colored rods used in conjunction with a "blow in" might be helpful. This might lead to more questions for you it seems though.

Maybe try "glass enamels"

But seeing as how I'm not in the BLM nor am I a baller in general I have no experience with enamels. ;-)

[shawnette]

No offense, but I wouldn't really walk into a college bio class and ask what a cell wall is. Or what photosynthesis was. A little self motivation and mental toughness/determination can't hurt anyone.

That being said, search about "blow ins, stuff and puffs" "how glass is colored" "colored glass composition" and last but not least," colored rods"

Colored rods used in conjunction with a "blow in" might be helpful. This might lead to more questions for you it seems though.

Maybe try "glass enamels"

But seeing as how I'm not in the BLM nor am I a baller in general I have no experience with enamels. ;-)

Most people wouldn't, but if they did, I seriously doubt the professor would ridicule them for seeking answers from an "expert" on the subject. Yes, my original reaction was "WTH? Who asks that???" but I would never have said that, nor would I ridicule a person who just wants information. I'd either answer the question or point them in the right direction to find the answer. (Unless it's a friend of mine. Then I show no mercy! I laugh at them all the time, lol!)

The thing that chafes my hide is when one artist implies superiority over another just by their choice of medium. Some bead makers are incredibly talented! And although I do prefer the challenge of working with soft glass over boro, probably a good 98% of my doesn't involve a mandrel of any sort. I'm not a fan of beads. I just like playing with fire.

[Louie HaHa]

1. Set booty trap ("that's what I saaaiid!! A boody trap!")

2. Leave

3. Sit back and laugh


nice one Gladss, don't know you, never will.... but nice one

[Amorphous]

why the fuck not walk into a Bio class and ask about a cell wall? Logical question to ask where you know you can trust the source and get a full and complete answer.

In a perfect world it would also be logical to go to a glass forum and ask how glass gets colored, sadly this is not a perfect world and the OP got some pretty snarky answers.

[SexualHarassmentPanda]

Okay. so if this is a real post... It is the best one i have seen.. OP .. None of us (most of us) do not make our own color from "batch" ... We buy color from a flameworking supply company. Making your own glass, and making your own color from elements is very bad for your health. Nor is it simple. Science.

[istandalone24/7]

1. Set booty trap ("that's what I saaaiid!! A boody trap!")

2. Leave

3. Sit back and laugh


nice one Gladss, don't know you, never will.... but nice one

Fucking Goonies ftw!

http://youtu.be/kr_z37TgQO4

[FRGartifacts]

That was why I tried to offer some search terms without beating the person up. My point was simply if you have been to high school, you probably learned about cell walls in your BASIC entry level bio class, thus going to a college level bio class without the knowledge of what a cell wall is and you find it necessary to ask such a question, you would probably be told to get up to speed before wasting 150 peoples time with a question that could be answered in an hour of general internet searching. Research, find the questions you really need to be asking the pros. I think most big name artist would be slightly annoyed to have someone pay 600 dollars for a class and then ask, "how do you get the color in there."

Sorry, I'm just trying to explain my own rational to why I usually read more than ask questions on here. Almost ALWAYS I find the info or a direction to head without having to create a thread for people to derail and small talk on because they are apathetic to my inexperience. Certainly not trying to be rude to either the OP or anyone else; piper, beader, or otherwise.

[FRGartifacts]

why the fuck not walk into a Bio class and ask about a cell wall? Logical question to ask where you know you can trust the source and get a full and complete answer.

In a perfect world it would also be logical to go to a glass forum and ask how glass gets colored, sadly this is not a perfect world and the OP got some pretty snarky answers.

Of course it would be logical but when Webster gives you a dictionary with the definition to a word, do you choose to not read the answer for your self and find the reference in the book because you can call the publisher or editor and ask him a question that was answered by the existence of the text itself? No, I guess I just feel like all this is typed and recorded, not verbal conversations, thus it is a searchable, loosely categorized database.

And I'm not tryin to argue, I just want to be understood. The more of these questions that are asked, and the more these "don't be rude, why can't you jus answer the question" post just muddy up the database of info with meaningless convo that's unrelated to glass. The more these have to be fielded, the more you have to freakin search just to find something valuable in all the "politically correct ways you should have responded post."

If there was one thread that had the answers and info needed then searching wouldn't result in a dozen of these threads of back and forth crap that beg the questions that are then asked because if I had to read through anymore nonsense I'd wanna take the easy route too.

I guess by the time some folks find this forum they are already tired of their general search engine... So.... Ehh whatevs. It's 4/20 so...El Fin

[Greymatter Glass]

http://www.greymatter.org/pandas/wtf/sciencekids.jpg

[Mr. Wonka]

Hey Doug- When your kids reach the correct shade of skin tone, can I borrow your flux capacitor?

Thanks bro!

P.S. – Are those the new Phillips goggles I’ve heard about?

[Greymatter Glass]

Dude, I post some family pictures and you just sit there all smug and make fun of them?

Also, yes, the little boy, front row on the right is wearing the new phillips lenses, I think.

[Action Glass]

I would love to have a pair of diddy goggles like that!

[Action Glass]

wait not those ones. Haha. Just noticed those.

[PyroChixRock]

I had a student ask me once if the kiln was to keep things hot.

Lots of ppl at shows asks how to color the glass.

[shawnette]

I have had a person stand there watching me make a flower implosion from start to finish and then ask how I put the flower in without burning it up. :bangHead:

[istandalone24/7]

oh yea...explaining to a potential customer how i make a floral implosion/compression. then after 10 minutes of talking....she asks how i get silk flowers in glass. fml.

[Icarus]

I have had a person stand there watching me make a flower implosion from start to finish and then ask how I put the flower in without burning it up. :bangHead:

"Magic. I am a wizard. Do not anger me. I will turn you into a toad."

[ROGUE]

OMG!!!! shawnette and Mike lol. I am so sick of explaining implosion flowers lol. I even have one cut into sections so people can see it from the inside and they still ask me how I get it in there lol UUUUGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

[istandalone24/7]

good idea!
i never fail to stammer a bit...can't really explain how it's done too easy. i usually end up asking for their email, and sending them the links to Boxfan's vids....the one where he demos a cane and then the one where he uses the cane to make a flower mib.