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Bubble
03-13-2006, 12:31 AM
Hello everyone, I was an avid visitor of the ezboard site, so i am happy to see that another discusion board was opened up.

Anyway, i am in need of some crucial advice. I am a college student working for my degree, but i am lucky enough to be able to melt some glass in my free time for money to help pay for the college. What i want to know is this. I have roughly $1450 to spend on a new torch. Now i have been working on a piece of crap 8mm for a while now, and i am into making fine jewelry and small to large pieces. I would really like some advice on what kind of torch will suit not only my jewelry making, but also small sculptures and small to large pieces.

I would greatly appreciate any advice and its nice to have become a member of this site!!

Hurm

JDeMoss
03-13-2006, 12:35 AM
I would go with the GTT Phantom. The center fire is great for all of your small stuff and when you want to go big you can, no problem. It is a torch you can grow into.

Just my 2 cents..........

PyroChixRock
03-13-2006, 12:39 AM
Welcome! :D


I second the phantom http://www.glasstorchtech.com/torches.html

slave
03-13-2006, 12:40 AM
I would go with the GTT Phantom. The center fire is great for all of your small stuff and when you want to go big you can, no problem. It is a torch you can grow into.

Just my 2 cents..........

I agree.

Fire on the mountain
03-13-2006, 12:45 AM
Im loving my phantom...i wouldnt go bigger for what your doing. The phantom and one of Menzies marvers fit your budget perfectly

Satori
03-13-2006, 01:30 AM
Phantom!

jokersdesign
03-13-2006, 06:53 AM
I got with either a GTT Phantom, Bethlehem Barracuda, or GTT Mirage.

Jones Art Glass
03-13-2006, 08:42 AM
Phantom yes!! Cuda no.

The Mirage is a little more than you were looking to spend but it will be nice if you ever want to go bigger. I ran a Phantom for about a year b4 my Mirage and they're both good torches. For smaller jewelry work I'd probably say Phantom then sell it if you ever decide to go larger.

Firekist
03-13-2006, 08:58 AM
what.. am i the 7th to say phantom? are you still reading this? (or a really cheap used mirage.. )

z---seth (i say no to the barracuda as well.)

β
03-13-2006, 09:45 AM
I'm going out on a limb in this one, but you should should get a diamond encrusted national with ruby and emerald knobs, because its all bout how you look while torchin.

wahoo
03-13-2006, 10:35 AM
All torches take getting used to, however, GTT's more so than most. If you have any one local to show you the ropes on this torch you'll be better off. I will get dogged for this, but I work on a carlisle cc burner. I love it. I have spent about a total of a month on a phantom and I am sure it is not as hot as my cc. however, the phantom is much, much more easy on the old ears. Alas, I must conciede, if I was to buy brand new I would probably go with GTT.

Dichroic Alchemy
03-13-2006, 05:13 PM
We are getting a batch of GTT Phantoms coming in next week,along with some Mirages.
Call us to secure one!!

Jay Frodo
www.dichroicalchemy.com
866-434-2476

Julian
03-13-2006, 06:02 PM
I have spent about a total of a month on a phantom and I am sure it is not as hot as my cc.
You are doing something very, very wrong if a Phantom isn't melting glass faster than a CC... theres no doubt a Phantom is hotter.
Were you using the blue knobs??

phab
03-13-2006, 06:07 PM
... you could always save a few hundred more and get the new technology herbert arnold and forget about having to upgrade in the future.

Paxton
03-13-2006, 09:12 PM
Phantom

~NattyMama~
03-13-2006, 09:21 PM
I work on a GTT Lynx, and it's great for doing real detailed stuff...

wahoo
03-13-2006, 09:35 PM
Yes julian I was using the blue knobs. I understand the torch very well, not as well as my carlisle, but I tell ya I couldn't wait until I got mine back ( it is 30+\- years old and was being rebuilt). Granted I could have been doing something wrong but I had the owner of the torch to show me the do's and don'ts. I stand by my words, a carlisle cc is hotter than a phantom. And, I will add, that it is more versitle. However, I also understand that GTT makes a superior torch due to it's tripple mix cooling and it's wisper.

LTD
03-13-2006, 10:09 PM
Wahoo,
I would like to see a head to head between your cc and any phantom. I say the phantom is faster. You say this carslisle is 30+ years old, Maybe they were built to burn hotter back then? The cc in my shop could not keep up with the phantom.

Julian
03-14-2006, 01:01 AM
I tihnk if you learned how to use the GTT better, you would find that it is more hot.
But what the hell, maybe I'm wrong. CC on.
I'm sure the Phantom is worth the price, and it's not just for a lack of fins and a lack of noise.
More versatile? Are you serious?? Oh, never mind. I can't argue this point. I'm confident that if we had a poll, most people would agree that a Phantom can out run a CC without much problem.
Next thing, people will be claiming a Minor is 'hotter' than a Lynx. What a crazy world.

flamebob
03-14-2006, 01:29 AM
phantom is a good choice if you wanna spend your whole chunk -o- change.

LTD
03-14-2006, 02:37 AM
. I can't argue this point. I'm confident that if we had a poll, most people would agree that a Phantom can out run a CC without much problem.
Next thing, people will be claiming a Minor is 'hotter' than a Lynx. What a crazy world.
AYE AYE

darv
03-14-2006, 08:29 AM
I have to reccomend a Maya. Larger flame and more versitile than the phantom.

derek

Julian
03-14-2006, 11:19 AM
You wouldn't go wrong with a 40 or 50 mm Herbert Arnold either...
the GTTs are faster for some types of work, but the Arnolds really make it easy to put an even heat base into hollow stuff. Plus they have the same needle flame capability as a GTT, and look cool i an industrial sort of way.