How hot does a pipe get while in use??

[szglassy]

They say there is no such thing as a stupid question so here goes mine-


How hot does a pipe get if it is getting a lot of use in one session?

Would you say over 300 degrees??


I'm asking because someone asked me to decorate one with crystals and I'd like it to stand the test of time.

[szglassy]

Oh I forgot to add that that is the max temp of the adhesive I use before it starts to break down.

[Matt P]

rather than use adhesive to decorate a pipe.... why not find an electroformer to copper plate the crystals onto the piece? Also, no idea how hot pieces get in heavy use. You could by a lazer/IR thermometer and check if you really wanted to know. But, again... as a glass artist, my advice is DON"T use an adhesive....electroform those crystals onto it. And if you gotta use a glue... UV glue seems to be the go-to for most glass people.

[ahreno]

i doubt it gets that hot... maybe inside the bowl. If it got up to 300 degrees, you wouldn't be able to hold onto it. right?

[szglassy]

Thank you for your replies.:-)

I'm not an end user and am aware that glass is not a conductor of heat.

I was thinking about decorating not close to the bowl area especially since it is possible that a flame could not always hit the center.

I have used uv glue on my pieces forever with pretty much no issues and was planning on using it for this project.

As far as electroforming--it could be a possibility and would have to research the cost.

Has anyone used electroforming do set crystals in glass??

[Trevor]

If it got up to 300 degrees, you wouldn't be able to hold onto it. right?

exactly, 300 degrees is way to hot to hold on to, so it shouldn't get that hot.
just make a really thick pipe, then you know it wont get too hot

[funksizzle]

Factors

1. Thickness
2. Distance fromheat source
3. Time of exposure at (distance x),
4. Shape of pipe. A pinchie will probably distribute the heat more in a cylinder shape, than a bowl with a large bowl end/thinner stem. There would be a diference of............
5. Locationheat source
6. ANgle bowl is tilted, angle heat is applied(direction of lighter) (say you held the lighter under the bowl instead of into the bowl from the top lighter 45 to the left. Or lighter straight up, bowl tilted 45 to right.
7. How long you wait before hitting it again. (like aww everyone you pass to uses a lighter to light a already lit cherry and happen to be jonesin for having waited 15 seconds between 4 people)
8. length of pipe
9. are there many avolios or dots to hold with versus no dots fingers directly on barrel/stem.


But ahh ya, I dunno about 300 degrees. If bowls are heating up that much, you should be vaping off em! Lets see hear, 280, 1 hit cash.280 ONE hIT cASH, 280 ONE HIT cASH. 450, 1 HIT, 2 HIT, 3 HIT, 4 HIT, NAPTIME. Or heat up 8 minutes, change prepacked whips, turn off. Cool to touch. Turn on, med warm to touch hit whip 1 again, whip 2 again turn off.

Don't mind my temp trance.

[Trevor]

I think you left out a few factors funk:

10. number of welds
11. density of colors
12. type of fuel
13. brand of lighter
14. headieness
15. geographic coordinates
16. barometric pressure
17. solar flares
18. celestial orientation

this is assuming we are on planet earth right?
if you where in orbit or something there would be more factors...

[szglassy]

I dig your manifesto Funk!!

I did not even consider the thickness of the pipe when it comes to keeping it cool..thanks Trevor

[ahreno]

They're joking around. Funksizzle is a bit... Unique.

You shouldn't have to worry about a pipe getting even close to 300°. Yes people have electro formed all sorts of things including rocks and gems onto pipes. It can be a cool effect.

[Greymatter Glass]

19. Lunar phase
20. Voltage fluctuation of kiln glass was annealed in
21. percentage VOC of the adhesive used.
22. Alignment of Mercury relative the to descension of Venus.
23. Offset of Chinese vs. Jewish calendars.
24. The mass of 14 cubic centimeters of Pyrex 7740 on Jupiter
25. What channel Comedy Central is on in your town/city.
26. Batch/lot number of all the color you use.
27. street address.


...

Anyways, the number I came across years ago from some study said that the burning tip of a lit cigarette can reach upwards of 1200ºF (I assume while it's being drawn on, not at rest) ... so that's the number I use for the burning "cherry" in a bowl... may be a bit higher since it's in the bowl, and all... say 1400º at the most. But other than the glass in direct contact with burning materials, you'll never hit 300º without some outside source of heat... should be fine.

Just keep glue or any other combustible material out of the bowl and the rim directly around it...


28. Cowbell Density.

[Matt P]

Has anyone used electroforming do set crystals in glass??

oooooooooooh yeah.
here's one of my favorite electroforming artists:
https://www.facebook.com/SevenRedbeards?fref=ts

[Aymie]

Doug, every day I love you a little more.