What does your bench look like right now?

[ineedanewusername]

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[Greymatter Glass]

Same as it did last year.... :P

[ineedanewusername]

Lol

[EFS]

Like it has a new phantom on it!

[menty666]

Lonely. Hoping to get out there tomorrow; we'll see.

[hglasswell]

looks like it has a new champion on it...lol

[ineedanewusername]

Looks like my pic didnt show :sad:

[DIMBW]

http://i.imgur.com/fCgz7Fp.jpg?1

[blazedglass]

Like this

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[DIMBW]

Thats some scary looking shit

[sevendeuce]

Like it has a new phantom on it!

Mine looks like it has no phantom, but patiently waiting for a mirage to sit on it :D

[Trevor]

my bench looks like the glass gods took a giant shit. and it was diarrhea

[istandalone24/7]

Like this

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put that propane outside, or at least move it 15' or so away from your bench.

[EpochGlass]

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That is some scary shit indeed!

Propane and oxygen tanks should be at least 15 feet apart. Can't tell, but looks like oxygen tank isn't chained/secured. Where's your ventilation fan...is it just the open window? Is this in your living room with carpeted floor? Has that curtain or the lamp shade caught fire yet?...Wait a sec...you're balancing your torch, the lamp, a bunch of tool on a sheet of...metal I hope...on top of a tool box...

How are you alive to post this picture?

[harpentuan]

You guys have laboratories! I'm a dude in a dirty shack.

[ineedanewusername]

Couldnt get my pic to post but I am literally in a dirty shack lol

[somewhere]

Haha I just knew this was going to happen when I saw the thread title.

Someone should have added this to the thread title.
"You will be sited and chastised till you become complicate with the current safety laws"

[PyroChixRock]

You guys won't believe this...

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Yes that's fucking ice! :lol

The air is really dry here right now but Juln left the heater on and left the shop. So when I went back out the next day condensation had formed. I turned on the propane heat and as it warmed up this layer of ice grew all over everything! It only lasted a few minutes and it probably won't happen again cause of the dry air so I'm glad I got pics. Talk about weird lol.

[talonst]

Like this

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Please people, pay attention to basic safety precautions.

There's enough explosive power there to level a small apartment building.

This is what happens when a barbecue propane tank explodes http://brucegoldfarb.com/kelties-blast-shows-dangers-of-propane
Propane needs to be outside

This is what happens when an O2 cylinder explodes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lw_fhNAIQc
That was an E tank that holds 25 cu. ft, a K is 250 cu ft.
O2 tanks need to be chained or use a cylinder cart http://www.globalindustrial.com/g/material-handling/hand-trucks-dollies/hand-trucks-cylinder/economical-welding-cylinder-carts

Here's a good set of guidelines https://www4.uwm.edu/usa/safety/chem/gascyl.cfm

[talonst]

Haha I just knew this was going to happen when I saw the thread title.

Someone should have added this to the thread title.
"You will be sited and chastised till you become complicate with the current safety laws"

Sure, but no one is trashing on anyone else. When it comes to safety the posts are always well intentioned. I'd like to see everyone be able to enjoy their glass passion without getting themselves or anyone else hurt. And while problems are few, the possibilities are very frightnening.

Peace.

[LowTideGlass]

This is what happens when an O2 cylinder explodes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lw_fhNAIQc T[/URL] This is one reason I don't like the idea of homefills and compressing your own oxygen to 1500- 2000psi.

Not to say that it isn't perfectly safe when done correctly. It just scares the crap out of me thinking what if something went wrong.

I'm more comfortable compressing to 90-100psi. Hell something popping off at 100psi is scary enough!

[blazedglass]

Ya I figured I would get some entertaining responses to that, outside picture I have a ventilation hood, and of all the glassblowers I have ever met I have never once seen propane stored outside, everything is secure and has flashback arrestors , etc.. yes it looks crazy that's why I posted it.. and who actually chains their oxygen tank ?

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[DIMBW]

I actually chain my tank to the wall. I got cats, dogs, and who knows when the big one is coming, I don't want my tank falling over when it does, smacking the nipple off my bench and rockets around the room or though a wall.

My main thing is your houdini balancing act, thats shit craiy

[talonst]

I hoped it wouldn't be entertaining but enlightening.

The valve stems on gas cylinders are comparatively weaker than the tank. With the K's being so tall they're very easy to knock over, and if that happens and the valve were to snap off you could have 2000 psi in your face. Not to mention the cylinder would go through a brick wall, or a dozen stud walls before it stopped, taking out anything in it's path.

Watch this to get an idea of what you're risking http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR9q187rRxU

As far as the propane cylinders go flashbacks don't help if the tank were to be punctured or there is a leak when you're away from the bench. Propane is heavier than air so it lays along the floor waiting for a spark. Flip on light switch - BOOM!

You're taking major risks and so are the people you know who don't secure their tanks or keep their propane outside.

Sorry to jack this thread.

[KLAW]

This is one reason I don't like the idea of homefills and compressing your own oxygen to 1500- 2000psi.

Not to say that it isn't perfectly safe when done correctly. It just scares the crap out of me thinking what if something went wrong.

I'm more comfortable compressing to 90-100psi. Hell something popping off at 100psi is scary enough!

^Ditto^

[EpochGlass]

Yeah, honestly blazedglass...glassblowing isn't about being an Evel Knievel and seeing what you can or can't get away with.

When you do things unsafely, it potentially risks your life, others lives, and if something should go horribly wrong, gives a bad reputation to the whole industry.

What if something went wrong and the accident ended up killing other people and you survived or weren't around when that happened?

Then after the investigation of the accident scene, it was found these people died due to your negligence of safety and you were found guilty of manslaughter or a similar charge.

Is it really worth that risk to not spend a half hour to an hour to set things up safely?

[BlueBeard]

took this pic of my bench at work a while ago...probably the worst it has gotten.
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[KLAW]

I've had a tank fall over...Scared the crap out of me(though was while getting out of the truck bed and because there happened to be a slippery enough strip of tie down strap perfectly at the edge of the tailgate it was leaning on and just enough of a slight angle...and during just that split second before I could tilt it up right after setting the bottom on the ground) fell so fast there was nothing I could do...Luckily it was abt a foot and a half from the curb...that much more to one side and would of hit right on the valve cap...Shit happens that's the last thing you would expect sometimes...Just the way it goes...I always chained up my oxygen tanks and keep my propane by OSHA laws (20' away from oxygen with a fire proof barrier) and that was just until I could get a hole put through the stucco wall and propane outside with hard lines ran...Never skimp on safety! Sometimes the things you think could never happen do end up happening for one reason or another...

[PyroChixRock]

I keep my propane outside. I keep my tanks chained up. I use flashback arrestors. I have fire extinguishers.

If you are not able to agree with all 4 of those statements then please, please...rethink your strategy. I want to see you all living long healthy lives. There's no need to taunt Murphy!

[Jedimind730]

I was thinking exactly the same thing...YIKES!!! :guyonfire

[KLAW]

I cringe every time I see someone doing glass in their living room with only a window opened and maybe a small fan in it(sad to say but most of the time is older ladies doing beads) and then like 2 torches pointed out into the living room at the TV so they can watch it instead of to the side & minimum at least at the window...Propane tanks between their legs while they work on a fold up card table...

There's one friend of my moms that she does beads exactly like all that and I've gone over there and begged them to not have things like they do...and they had grandma sitting at the couch in front of them...Well she finally died and I know that all the carbon monoxide and what not had to of done her in early...

[Shaper]

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Here's a pic of the bench my son and I work at. We just got the bench built a little while ago and ran out of money so I haven't been able to pipe the propane from the outside yet. Plan on doing that next week when I get paid. But my oxy tanks are chained up and away from the propane tanks. I'll feel more comfortable when the propane is outside.

[ReLo442]

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Anal spray?????:twitch::twitch::twitch::o:

[ineedanewusername]

Now thats what im talkin about lol

[Captain Glass]

I wipe off all my glass with anal spray... It gives it that special touch.

[blazedglass]

Please people, pay attention to basic safety precautions.

There's enough explosive power there to level a small apartment building.

This is what happens when a barbecue propane tank explodes http://brucegoldfarb.com/kelties-blast-shows-dangers-of-propane
Propane needs to be outside

This is what happens when an O2 cylinder explodes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lw_fhNAIQc
That was an E tank that holds 25 cu. ft, a K is 250 cu ft.
O2 tanks need to be chained or use a cylinder cart http://www.globalindustrial.com/g/material-handling/hand-trucks-dollies/hand-trucks-cylinder/economical-welding-cylinder-carts

Here's a good set of guidelines https://www4.uwm.edu/usa/safety/chem/gascyl.cfm

I'm ordering that cart. I took that pic of my shop when I didn't have cement board for the whole table , that was temporary.. I thought it looked super shady, my fault for changing the subject from messy work benches..

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[Ybot]

This is what I call home.

[Kaizen]

Oxy tanks and propane tanks do NOT have to be at least 15' apart. Depending on local fire code they do for storage at the end of a working day. Do you have to keep propane outside? Not by any laws but your insurance company might say something. Cylinders only need to be secured to something that won't fall. My fire Marshall came by on surprise right after a delivery and my tanks were not secured yet. He said to tie em to the stair railing with a bungee and it's good enough for fire code.

Now is it good practice to do so? Yes because if something happens it lowers the risk of something worse happening.

Hopefully you live by yourself and not endangering your family or neighbors by negligence.

If you cannot or are too lazy to set up a decent shop, I'm not going to say your setup has to look like scientific shop, then you should reconsider blowing glass. Or find a local studio to work in.

[BlueBeard]

ahahahahahahahaha Anal spray!!! that folder really says "anal tech sprayer" they are small venturi sprayers kinda like fancy perfume bottles. its also anal like analysis not anal like yur butthole. apparently whoever named the company was way to serious of a scientist to get the joke because they do not find it funny.

[jr23]

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Here's a pic of the bench my son and I work at. We just got the bench built a little while ago and ran out of money so I haven't been able to pipe the propane from the outside yet. Plan on doing that next week when I get paid. But my oxy tanks are chained up and away from the propane tanks. I'll feel more comfortable when the propane is outside.


How do you like working with walls that close. The torch on the right would crowd me to the wall.

If you made torch mounts that brought the torches back you would be able to do bigger work without blow tubes hitting the wall.

A lot of the early versions of friends shops have had guest spots crammed next to a wall.

You can usually tell who the low man is at a shop. He will have the spot with the least mobility.

[Shaper]

The stations are four foot wide so for most of the things we do it doesn't cause a problem. Sometimes we have to move the torch off center and angle it towards the exhaust to get a little extra room, but that is rare, and the center wall is removable also. The biggest item we do are vac stacks and we have to take it out of the bench anyway to pull it down.

[Jiggy Boro]

This is what I call home.

I really dig the bench set up with the glass underneath like that. I just might have to make myself a new bench now.. Brilliant.

[PyroChixRock]

Mine is a mess, which is the norm in this tiny shop. Everything from one station flows into the other as really it's only one station lol.

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[PyroChixRock]

At least it's not covered in a layer of ice today like the last pics I posted lol

[ineedanewusername]

Yeah mine was also iced over, my water annealer was frozen solid lol

[BORO]

Crazy Holliday season....... I think I may throw up after looking at this pic of the shop.

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This is the snow getting pulled through the doors , down the hall and into the shop , even with the make up air running.

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At least this came out ok.

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[KLAW]

Hell yeah Boro! That Ones A Beauty!!! Love the Double Layer Work!...Lotta Time & Love Went Into That One Looks Like!

[blueburnsorange]

[QUOTE=Kaizen;776950]Oxy tanks and propane tanks do NOT have to be at least 15' apart. Depending on local fire code they do for storage at the end of a working day. Do you have to keep propane outside? Not by any laws but your insurance company might say something. Cylinders only need to be secured to something that won't fall. My fire Marshall came by on surprise right after a delivery and my tanks were not secured yet. He said to tie em to the stair railing with a bungee and it's good enough for fire code. /QUOTE]

We are using industrial grade equipment in (usually) residential or commercial locations, we are in a grey area - I had my home owners insurance agent stumped for days until I sent him photos and spec sheets!

OSHA 1910.101(b) “Compressed gases" points to reference the Compressed Gas Association Pamphlet P-1-1965 which states that you can have propane stored indoors but that is for facilities like plants and warehouses with gas powered forklifts, etc BUT they cannot be stored with TWENTY feet of combustible liquids or gases as well as any electrical equipment, open flame (ignition sources). We keep our cage at our warehouse (about a dozen 30lb tanks) outdoors because, well... duh...

Oxygen tanks are weird, depending on the state you might be required to store it outdoors and/or disconnect it after use but OSHA 1926.350(a)(7) does at least require them to be secured in an standing position.

What I'm saying is that if you are a pro glassblower in a pro studio (commercial zoned) you can probably keep it indoors and be legal/insurable under the above specs but if you are in a residential zoned building you are limited to STORING nothing larger than 1lb tanks indoors... If you have an accident and something gets damaged or someone gets hurt they will hold you financially and possibly criminally negligent.

[D. dino i ninjah]

The reason propane has to be outside is because ... it is heavier than air... if A leak were to happen It will collect in the lowest place in the room ... This could (unlikely Yes ) result in you blowing a fucking huge section of what ever structure its inside of the fuck up. you may not even smell it because it stays low to the ground .. then you light your safety break and well ...boom If you store it out side then well it just disparate into the air and every one is safe ..

[talonst]

The reason propane has to be outside is because ... it is heavier than air... if A leak were to happen It will collect in the lowest place in the room ... This could (unlikely Yes ) result in you blowing a fucking huge section of what ever structure its inside of the fuck up. you may not even smell it because it stays low to the ground .. then you light your safety break and well ...boom If you store it out side then well it just disparate into the air and every one is safe ..

It also expands in volume 270:1. So that 16-18lbs of liquid is going to expand to 270 times the volume when it changes from liquid to gas. Given a 20 lb cylinder is roughly a cubic foot in volume it's holding around 270 cubic feet of gas. This why when you finish a torching session you turn off the tank valve and then light the torch to bleed the propane lines because that seemly small amount of gas contained in the hoses could still leak and cause an explosion. The probability is very low, and perhaps it's overly paranoid, but it's also the practice of many shops and respected teaching facilities.

[blueburnsorange]

^ Dale from AGS explained is something along the lines of - imagine yourself standing where your propane tank is located, holding a basketball. Now imagine in a fraction of a second the same amount of space is occupied by you and about 250 basketballs... where would you and anything else in that space (including the air) go? Basketballs are strong... ;-)
http://31.media.tumblr.com/48152a5d2e51bf427148d6e3b63628a3/tumblr_mt1eldrNUO1s3henjo1_500.gif

[talonst]

^^^ Great Clip :cool2:

[KLAW]

BlueBurnsOrange is correct OSHA Laws say oxygen tanks must be 20' away from combustibles (propane) like I had said earlier(& "preferably" I think with a fireproof barrier between is stated somewhere also...don't remember if that one was required though)...Its stated multiple times under the general storage sections...and actually if I remember right one of those sections is 1910.253(b)(2)(ii) That's IF I'm remembering correctly...which I think I am but will try to pull it up and correct if wrong...

Either way if you can't agree that oxygen and propane shouldn't be stored anywhere near each other and fire extinguishers need to be on hand and even that its optimal to have propane outside... Then you need to look into how easy it is for something to go wrong accidentally...Especially if in an area like a garage where there's a gas water heater... The reason that water heaters are required to be raised up off the ground now is because gasses like propane or if someone spills some gasoline or something the gasses hug the ground and it takes longer for the gasses to get up to that level hopefully giving a better chance that a leak or spill can get noticed/taken care of before it reaches the pilot light and there is a catastrophic explosion...

Another thing I like to do to all my propane and oxygen lines that are coming from the torch,sitting on the ground,under the bench or anywhere that molten glass can somehow on the far off chance fall off the table and hit..Is I've wrapped them first in a layer of paper and then wrapped them in thick metal ducting tape the whole length anywhere near the work area(the first wrap of paper is just so that the metal ducting tape has something to stick to instead of directly to the hoses getting your lines all covered in goo,residue & pieces of tape that are impossible to remove later if desired...

[D. dino i ninjah]

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Umm I know this guy ... Im not goin to say any names but ... every time he goes to the shop to clean ... he says fuck it an just blows glass ... every spring he hoses his shop down and hauls everything out ... but last spring went by and summer happened and ... well this year and last year kinda mixed together.. OK .. Im going to clean my shop... worst part is these pics are from before the holidays .. sometimes I go in and harvest and just work off shit I find on the bench .. I have worked for a weekend or two with out ever using anything that was not already on my bench ... But really you should never ever do this ...

[ineedanewusername]

Wow that looks like Scott Rogers's bench..... Lyf

[stingerjg]

Working mid marble. About the normal about of clean/dirty.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/05/vugaquru.jpg

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[ineedanewusername]

It must be Miller time at your bench :D:D:D:D:cool::D:D

[LooseSeal Baller]

where are all the benches with flat screen tvs and such? surely there are some ballers out there who have 50" flatscreens(prefferably 2) angled on each side of the bench helping to direct the exhaust air out...

Like a hood/bench with tvs instead :o:

[Jakevincent]

This is me, plus some of the bounty from yesterday. In my [old age] I'm finding that I can't get anything done unless things are pretty tidy.

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(I haven't the foggiest idea as to why that's sideways, but there it is. In real life I swear those stand right side up. )

[D. dino i ninjah]

Wow that looks like Scott Rogers's bench..... Lyf

Im pretty sure .... me and Scott Rogers could hang... We seem to have learned in a similar style ... We'll call it the salad tongs era ... back when claw grabbers were like a luxury and so was bench cleaning

[menty666]

where are all the benches with flat screen tvs and such? surely there are some ballers out there who have 50" flatscreens(prefferably 2) angled on each side of the bench helping to direct the exhaust air out...

Like a hood/bench with tvs instead :o:

I have a crappy thirteen inch I got second hand from a fleamarket with a roku attached to it. Close enough?

[mwc]

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn42/mc8850/076C720E-B68D-4773-86FF-C40745DD0E95.jpg (http://s301.photobucket.com/user/mc8850/media/076C720E-B68D-4773-86FF-C40745DD0E95.jpg.html)

It's a bit of a mess

[Nomad]

This is my bench right now. I try to keep it clean and organized. I put my tools away in my tool box everyday.
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This Studio is the porch connected to my studio where I live. I am building a new studio so I have more space.

[Loki Glass]

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s449/JonnyBtreed/IMG_20131129_200818_790_zpsfchbwr6z.jpg

This is my bench as of a few weeks ago, it's changed around a bit since then. More shelving and storage and what not, but this is it.

[GlassBBQ]

This is my bench right now. I try to keep it clean and organized. I put my tools away in my tool box everyday.
This Studio is the porch connected to my studio where I live. I am building a new studio so I have more space.

I really like the side holder for the smith torch.

[ineedanewusername]

lots of great pics people, keep em comin' =D

[JimmyB]

It is a little more messy then it usually is.

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[aREa541]

This is my bench right now. I try to keep it clean and organized. I put my tools away in my tool box everyday.
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This Studio is the porch connected to my studio where I live. I am building a new studio so I have more space.

Am I missing something, or is your ventilation really two small desktop fans pointed out a cracked window?

Everybody knows you need at least 3 desktop fans to run a bravo, and 4 if you do a lot of fuming....

Seriously though, step up yo mofuggin game!

[hashmasta-kut]

well in his new studio i bet you he does :)

[shawnette]

Lol! I about choked when I saw the anal spray.

Here my creative zone:
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/06/7uru4e3y.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/06/4e4ehy9y.jpg

(3 propane tanks stored outside)

[Nomad]

Am I missing something, or is your ventilation really two small desktop fans pointed out a cracked window?

Everybody knows you need at least 3 desktop fans to run a bravo, and 4 if you do a lot of fuming....

Seriously though, step up yo mofuggin game!

yeah that is the reason for the new studio. It actually work rather well but the new studio will be better. I only work small right now.

[Jar-Jar]

Here's mine

[cheesebox]

The chz bench
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[stingerjg]

It must be Miller time at your bench :D:D:D:D:cool::D:D
its always Miller or Coors Original time at my bench

[khan]

Here are a few shots of my shop...
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[blueburnsorange]

my spot is embarrassing compared to you guys but here is what I'm working with.... did someone say "Sweet flatscreen TV" oh yeah, 7" of viewing pleasure right there and with almost 1000CFM of inline fan action running right behind it, the tiny speakers are ALMOST loud enough to hear!

(kiln and all the glass storage is off to the side... tools are in the drawers under the frit trays)

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[susheke]

I keep my propane outside. I keep my tanks chained up. I use flashback arrestors. I have fire extinguishers.

If you are not able to agree with all 4 of those statements then please, please...rethink your strategy. I want to see you all living long healthy lives. There's no need to taunt Murphy!

This. I tromp out in deep snow to get to my propane tank and I have a 2 story open 2 car garage space. Never, ever would I consider bringing it inside.

[ineedanewusername]

So do you keep.propane and oxygen outside, or is it safe to keep oxygen inside?

[PyroChixRock]

Safe to keep the o2 inside but I have kept it outside where possible.

[susheke]

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[susheke]

nm, fixed it

[cas]

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oh and that crazy homemade kiln with the power cords hanging all over it doesn't run.

[susheke]

I think I need to work bigger so I can watch TV. If I did now I would probably burn myself.

[roughnecked]

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[ineedanewusername]

Glad to see all the setups, I am in the process of making mine since I recently aquired a shed. Im super excited about it since it has concrete floor and cynderblock walls... Atleast it wont burn down easy and I can put more money int a good ventilation system.

[blueburnsorange]

I think I need to work bigger so I can watch TV. If I did now I would probably burn myself.

Call me crazy but I between the exhaust, kiln, torch and the damn cat, my ears play tricks on me when I'm melting. I think I hear my wife calling my name, the doorbell, footsteps... whatever my brain feels like throwing out there to mess with me.

Music never helps me with that, I don't know why.... That TV gets two channels on a good day so I see nothing but talk shows during the day or sitcoms re-runs at night (not exactly captivating stuff) and it's all barely audible, just something to keep my peripheral senses focused enough to avoid the other distractions.... well, other than the occasional risk of glance up at the screen when I hear Maury say "You are NOT the father!"

[SethBickis]

Its a mess! My girl is getting into this and picked up a scorpion as her first torch.
These are my first pics i have uploaded! Now i feel like i have accomplished something!

[susheke]

Call me crazy but I between the exhaust, kiln, torch and the damn cat, my ears play tricks on me when I'm melting. I think I hear my wife calling my name, the doorbell, footsteps... whatever my brain feels like throwing out there to mess with me.

Music never helps me with that, I don't know why.... That TV gets two channels on a good day so I see nothing but talk shows during the day or sitcoms re-runs at night (not exactly captivating stuff) and it's all barely audible, just something to keep my peripheral senses focused enough to avoid the other distractions.... well, other than the occasional risk of glance up at the screen when I hear Maury say "You are NOT the father!" LOL! See now that would make me look and burn myself.

[susheke]

Seth I like the skull. I have a shark.

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[Glasgow Glass]

Nomad you should go buy a real ventalation system. Heath is not a joke.

[quix]

http://ethrx.com/photos/uploads/IMG_20140110_091553_20140110_091629.jpg

[LowTideGlass]

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[hippi]

i actually did a rebuild on my shop.. im still in the process of finishing up had a couple hold ups but should be able to get the extra ducting tomorrow not sure if im gonna be able to get the parts for my slide out torch stand though proly till monday.. but i dont need the stand to run the torch i just want it done b4 i start workin again otherwise its gonna bug me lol.. any way heres b4 and after shots of the shop.. its in my garage.. we have a 3 car garage 1 big door one small one.. so when we moved in i built a wall between the 2 i should of took the big side of the garage but it works lol
B4
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now after..
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[Kaizen]

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Just cleaned up and organized.

[JDNACEglass]

^sweet idea with angle iron

[Kaizen]

Thanks! Their pallet racks. 4x8 on each side. The second half is glass storage. Plus I can change the hight of my bench as I need.

[JDNACEglass]

Sweet! so i took some pics of my bungalo, but i dont know how to get them from my phone to this site

[marleyb0b]

Needs a quick cleaning

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/12/ry7ygu2u.jpg

[Nomad]

The computer posts the best pics..... I thought I would share wile I was taking a brake. Just to see if I can post with my phone.
Nope the digital camera that I have works better then my new phone camera with this site.
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Like my little test?

[DIMBW]

I love your back porch setup, Nomad. That shits legit

[Nomad]

It is the porch to my studio where I live now....
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[HerbChambers]

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hope GTT comes through with a lynx for me soon..

[RyanBaker]

So it seems like mostly everyone keeps their propane outside, i currently just have mine in the opposite side of the room of anything even remotely combustible.

My question is for people who live in a cold area during the winter, doesnt your tank get frozen as shit? Ide like to store my propane outside in a box or something, but im worried that if i do (I live in new england) that whenever its really cold out the propane wont start right, or the valve will be frozen shut or something.

[Nomad]

So it seems like mostly everyone keeps their propane outside, i currently just have mine in the opposite side of the room of anything even remotely combustible.

My question is for people who live in a cold area during the winter, doesnt your tank get frozen as shit? Ide like to store my propane outside in a box or something, but im worried that if i do (I live in new england) that whenever its really cold out the propane wont start right, or the valve will be frozen shut or something.

Get good regulators like the ones by Radnor by Harris. They seem to hold up better to the cold.

[blueburnsorange]

There are some threads about this in the gases and fuels sub-thread but the long and the short of it is:

it's OK to keep it outside in the cold, put it up on a pallet or something off the frozen ground if you can. It's more important to keep the regulators covered from moisture. Some of us use buckets or tarps but you don't want to put the propane in a "box" because if there is a leak it will build up.... and that is why a lot of folks prefer to keep it outside in the first place. A leak in the propane line outdoors is a lot safer than indoors - plus different states and shop setups mean different laws regarding propane storage. I'm not allowed to have more than a 1lb tank indoors at my place.

It's 12 degrees today and I'm gonna fire the torch up after work, no prob.

[PyroChixRock]

Mine as was buried in 3 feet of snow and down to -27 and no problems.

[PyroChixRock]

Keep it outside. Finding the knob buried in snow hurts your hand but is better than blowing up your shop.

[RyanBaker]

Mine as was buried in 3 feet of snow and down to -27 and no problems.

Sweet! I was really hoping you would reply to this, because i saw you literally had ice form in your shop.

But as far as a "Box" I mean an insulated wooden box raised off the ground next to my garage with a hard line pipe running from the box into the garage to feed the line through. If I put a few holes on the opposite side wouldn't they act as a drain and allow any build up of gas to easily escape?

[TCsGlassworks]

So it seems like mostly everyone keeps their propane outside, i currently just have mine in the opposite side of the room of anything even remotely combustible.

My question is for people who live in a cold area during the winter, doesnt your tank get frozen as shit? Ide like to store my propane outside in a box or something, but im worried that if i do (I live in new england) that whenever its really cold out the propane wont start right, or the valve will be frozen shut or something.


im down in plymouth. like misha said store it outside, i havent had any trouble yet this winter

[HerbChambers]

But as far as a "Box" I mean an insulated wooden box raised off the ground next to my garage with a hard line pipe running from the box into the garage to feed the line through. If I put a few holes on the opposite side wouldn't they act as a drain and allow any build up of gas to easily escape?

this is what i was planning on, minus the insulation. basically a vented box with a solid lid. glad to know cold wont be an issue.

[menty666]

I built a little enclosure for mine that's sort of like what the pay phone booth's became. It's mostly to keep the snow off the knobs and regulator

[LowTideGlass]

If you do keep them on the ground outside, at least put it up on some bricks or something. I remember the first time I went to grab my propane in freezing weather and had a damn hard time getting it off the ground. Ended up pulling out a solid mass of earth up with the tank. Lol.

I just keep all three of my tanks on bricks with a piece of plywood on them to keep snow off them.

[PyroChixRock]

Those are good ideas! This Cali girl did not think of such things on my insane trip to Duluth.

[blueburnsorange]

Sweet! I was really hoping you would reply to this, because i saw you literally had ice form in your shop.

But as far as a "Box" I mean an insulated wooden box raised off the ground next to my garage with a hard line pipe running from the box into the garage to feed the line through. If I put a few holes on the opposite side wouldn't they act as a drain and allow any build up of gas to easily escape?

Poke holes on all sides of the box and take into consideration situations like snow, which could cover and block some of the holes - make sure there is always ventilation in the box

Use gas-grade piping for the hard line, you need shutoff valves at both ends of the exterior wall you bring the pipe through.

Here is a good write up of how to do it
http://lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125930

Also consider that NFPA code caps the pressure at 10PSI for a hard line into a house, this could be a deal breaker if you are running a bigger torch - make sure to check with your insurance company because this could violate your home-owners insurance.

[mer]

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this is just my bench, my wife has the electroforming station in shambles

[TacosGlass]

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Modelooooo!

yes, my reg's are worth 4x my torch, wha whaaaat

[FredLight]

I snapped a pic of my "Bench-nado", and now I'm embarassed to post it.

[ineedanewusername]

Dont be embarrassed, thats the whole reason I started this thread was because my bench was trashed lol

[FredLight]

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I plan to clean off the bench, raise it 10-12 inches, and locate the kiln under the bench on the left, like my amusement park demo set-up.

I had an apprentice make a bench for me, for my demo days, that hits at 42 inches. The height is perfect for standing work, and now I want to change my home studio to match it.

Moving the kiln will give me space on the left, on the right, I have a large swing out window. When I work a full stick, I have to open the window.

Pretty funny, but it's worked for the last two years. Oh, my ventilation fan is mounted above the 2x4 at the top of the frame, 2350 cfm bolted directly to the wall.

What a wreck.

[71t0ny]

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Here's a pic of the bench my son and I work at. We just got the bench built a little while ago and ran out of money so I haven't been able to pipe the propane from the outside yet. Plan on doing that next week when I get paid. But my oxy tanks are chained up and away from the propane tanks. I'll feel more comfortable when the propane is outside.

I love yr setup in general but i just have to say, that i think its great you and your son have glass to share and bond over. I'd love to be able to work side by side at the torch w my dad! :)

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[Nighthawk]

Like i should work for a week to just clear up the glass on it lol

[Nomad]

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Depends on what I am making but I think I use as few tools as possible to make my slides.

[RamblezMarblez]

I have the barracuda hooked up to quick connects so I can pop that off and pop my lynx on! Affordable lessons available....I take all the torches inside when I leave studio...:o:

[stingerjg]

I try to leave it dirty on purpose
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/12/4eqybu8y.jpg

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[hammer]

I'm a weirdo. I can't work if my area is not organized and clutter free.


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[stingerjg]

I don't think it makes makes you a wierdo. My mess is organized. Punty, color, and blanks at the ready. Tools always go back to the same place. It's the used items that cause my clutter

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[hammer]

I'm kind of proud of being a weirdo.


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