Jxbey's progression thread

[Jxbey]

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these are from the few days following some of my friends pieces in here. hes really getting good shaping down on his spoons/sherlocks atleast alot better than i(which i just realized i dont even have any pictures of lol). the spoon with some hateraid on it is mine just trying to add some color but heating the tube up trying to let color melt in my tube gets all wonky and uneven making the blow ridiculously uneven gonna need to work on that. first implossion marble was the blue and white one 2nd was the disco and yellow. third implossion was that blue peacock pendant which im most proud of. ended up getting a 96j from chubbles waiting on it to arrive but the things we've made we have been setting on a woodstove top/ flame annealing. the larger items crack but getting away without these smaller pendys cracking gonna try cranking out a few more today at the quality of the blue one.

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some nice implosions and a cool hollow swirl reminds me of a peacock like that style with a coil potted passion color with some contrasting dots think i can make some really cool hollow swirl styles like that, running through the end of my alchemy color kit thats why i left those flower pendants simple no backing gonna try some frit backing today. waiting on mountainglass to reopen up the 4th before i place my next glass order unless anyone knows somewhere i could get some sooner?

[Jxbey]

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didnt realize how much progression ive left out from first few days updating it everyday. time flies when your having fun tho right. had a mini tube/rig going that started out as a pendant. what style is that when you blow your nice round ball lay your design and let it melt back together. anyway thats how the rig started and it ended when i was trying to size up the downstem, pulling it out of the kiln 3-4 times smoothly thought wow this is going good i may pull this off. forgot to knock on wood and she falls off the punty :(

All those pendants were the xmas gifts to the family few left out not the best picture. everyone loved them i think their lack of knowledge of what you can do with glass really played in my favor haha they were telling me how i could set up these in stores right now and im just like if you only knew. all art is a funny thing tho relocating work or presenting it to a different audience and someones bound to love it and thats why i love creating

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[maxtsunami]

Cool stuff! Looks like you're starting to get the hang of it. Something that worries me are the loops and attachments on the pendants you gave as gifts, none of them look fully melted in, and they are likely to break off (You're cold sealing stuff to the pendant body just like you cold seal a punty, and a light tap will probably break the seal). Everyone has trouble with this at some point, and I've even made the mistake of selling pieces that didn't have the loop quite melted in before I knew the consequences.

What I'd recommend is making sure both sides of whatever you're welding are molten before you touch them together, then keep a focused flame on the weld until there are only smooth edges.

Keep at it!

[Jxbey]

New bench setup a million times better than original bench have space for all the glass in the dresser and space for the kiln right next to the work area
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[dplaza]

woah thats not good ventilation... yikes. do some searches on here see what others are doing, make sure your fresh air inlet is actually fresh air. i wouldn't kick it in there with a torch on. once you do that see if you can get a bigger oxygen tank theres no way a tiny tank like that is economical.

nice ambition on that rig tho, i definitely didn't try making multi part things for the first few months.

[snoopdog6502]

Packing a tank up stairs would be a real bitch. I'm so glad I bought an oxygen concentrator and piped in to natural gas. I still have tanks and regulators for my mini torch.

Im about at the same stage of newbness to glass anyway, just started to learn my kiln. Now my stuff is at least durable.

I look foward to seeing your work.

[Jxbey]

oxy con and home refill is in the works forsure, the tank lasts me 2-3 days of torching and i have 2 of them for these next few months gonna be hiking em up and down. my upstairs is the exact same on other end and i crack that window for fresh air and you can literally see the gas fumes on the bench go right to the box fan im only on a beth alpha is it really not good enough ventilation? the way the ceiling is shaped is perfect and ill soon be getting a hood that fits the exact ceiling dimensions because the plan is to have 2 torches on that bench

[Jxbey]

First pendants from new bench alot more comfortable working temps and bench space help tremendously, loops getting cleaner everytime
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[dplaza]

yah bro like i said check out some threads see what others are doing, you should do a smokebomb test and see how much of that stuff your huffing.

http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?6957-Are-you-a-nasty-little-bench&highlight=nasty

http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?32-Ventilation-101&highlight=ventilation

http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?17609-Scratching-the-surface-of-the-NOX-NO2-problem&highlight=ventilation

definitely get in some reading, i could type out some tips but im not an authority and some things i say might be misleading.

your loops are lookin cleaner on those last 2.

[Jxbey]

went to do smoke bomb test with what i thought was a smoke bomb that ive had in my dresser forever and it was a crackle firework very surprising, the smoke from it disapaited quickly out the window not near the amount of a smoke bomb tho im sure im huffing some fumes hood and exhaust fan for sure the next thing im getting

[Jxbey]

Got some shops around me that are in need of pendants and spoons gonna stack up on each this next week and make drops to em and see how that goes. city right next to me Ferndale decriminalized marijuana made it legal to posses and exchange small amounts on private property. very vague on consumption and the police chief openly stated in an interview that nothin will change due to this law passing " “It is state law and we are not empowered to simply not enforce it,” Collins said. “In fact, we are sworn to uphold state law.” " smh. anyways this has opened up the market for glass a little and grow stores and smaller chain smoke shops in my area are looking to carry some local work
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[Jxbey]

Homies first hammer bubbler some poorly melted in frit and connection is a lilttle wonky but awesome for a first one
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[snoopdog6502]

That's nice, I have yet to make a bubbler, Now I have a kiln I will try again.

Last time I tried I could not have two hot pieces at once so it failed real quick.

[Aaron Ellis]

That frit in the chamber on that bub looks dangerous is it just tacked on or is it melted in? You realy want the frit melted all the way in. You dont want a piece flaking off into your lungs when ur hitting it.
nice job tho. Keep at it your loops are looking much better.

[Jxbey]

that frit is like halfway melted in my homies got a fucking thick skull im steady on him about little shit like that in his work. before the melting in the frit all the way this dude wouldnt burn his punty marks off and its be a perfectly fine bowl with a little chip of glass from a punty on the end it literally took a week of me saying shit to get him to do it like wtf why wouldnt you want to have a nice smooth finished piece? now its melting in the fuck ton amount of frit he likes to load in haha

[Jxbey]

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Some stuff ive made past 2 days. So ive been letting my homie work on shaping spoons and ive been focusing on pendants and getting to know the colors. He wouldnt melt his frit in all the way as seen in that hammer bub and some of the pipes in background of these pics maybe, so yesterday i was like im gonna show him how its done haha. but i actually did!! the 2 nicest spoons are what i was able to knock out first time making a spoon since the first week of me being on the torch and theres a HUGE improvement i was beyond stoked at how those 2 came out, the jailbreak rod on the left first picture came out as a cool effect for sure a rod i want to save for when i start iso. also the "matching" bowl and hollow pendy, the hollow pendy came out awesome best one ive done yet. i used the end of Dallas' blow tube that had some color on it after he was done making the spoon added a little lens. the picture couldnt focus close enough but the effect of that little lens laid over a dot of passion color looks sick theres a single tiny bubble in it that catches light nicely.

[Theborobakery]

Props to you for trying all the things you have tried, but i think you have the idea now. Work on your spoons for shaping and getting used to the heat base that glass moves at. It will improve the quality of your work ten fold. Don't even bother with a hammer or color (besides some simple accent dots) until you can shape something the same way more than ten times. I would say 100 times but I know how it feels in the beginning and you just want to move on to the next thing, but trust me the repetition will surprise you with how much it helps. Also, make your hollow work thicker, when the walls are thin your shit will get wonky way easier.

Keep it up.

[Jxbey]

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big ol spoon. sticking to clear for a few days got a kiln full of clear spoons a pendy and a dabber

[Jxbey]

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Stoked on this little dish what started out as a disc flip turned into a hollow shelled turtle sculpture which turned into a little dish, gonna make a matching turtle dabber today. Thanks to Axiswolf here on tmp for the jacks they fit my needs and i couldn't have done the dish without them.
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[Jxbey]

Just now at a month of lampworking stoked on my progress

[monte]

Looking good dude

[Jxbey]

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making loops before attaching them now overall cleaner work being able to keep a nice even spin throughout.
first pendant style and coloring ive made that i actually like gonna make plenty like this with different dot styles especially get the honey comb down since they're so hip atm

[Jxbey]

Just got a GTT scorpion 4 stud with 2 oxy cons from someone i had stumbled upon a few hours north of me in MI great deal couldnt be happier. what would you suggest i do? im running two torches on our bench now an alpha and the scorpion as of now im running scorp off both oxy cons 1 10lpm 1 8lpm and would run alpha off tanked. would homefill be the way to go and run both tanked?

[Jxbey]

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First things off the scorpion hand rounded mib no mold that size, first "prep" work gonna make a few different balls similar color scheme and encalmo them together today

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Was able to encalmo my 3 balls together and make an awesome thick spoon nice centerd hole in the bowl. best piece ive made first piece on the new torch im stoked cant wait to torch so more today! Im all outta tubing that i like making spoons with i have some heavy wall 2 in tubing and then some 1in thin walld stuff so im gonna be coil potting these next few pieces until i order some more clear tubing. after making this piece im sure i could knock out some iso pieces have fume and some nice color lined tubing i havnt even touched yet just so much i want to do with the new torch haha thanks yall

[monte]

Nice work

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Shops in the area carrying my work now hopefully this addiction will start paying for itself real soon $$$ regardless glass with be melted just maybe at a little slower pace

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First tube implosions didnt undersant the concept of melting the disc down to get these effects or i would have been doing these rather than the compression
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[monte]

Sweet pendants. Great progress man. I really like that spoon was that a pre pulled tube?

[Jxbey]

Yes pre pulled golden gate tubing cant wait till im doing my own vac stacks
First retticello getting better at switchbacks reversals peak at a money tubing spoon
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Ive got a handheld smith torch helping alot on my pendant work making sure everything is nice and cleanly melted in still getting use to it. Adding the horn/spikes on this pendant my hand accidentally jumped up and hit the pendant cracking it was able to save it somehow. i can tell im gonna be making alot more retti and implosion pendants rather than compression from here on out

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First sherlock came about trying to use a messed up pipe that had some nice designs on it, 2 honeycombs at each end
i liked the colorway and tried knocking out a few only first one survived 2nd one cracked while finished up mouth piece holding in grabbers way to long the white is some import and i can tell it tends to crack a little easier. gonna stick to clear getting a few different styles shapping down try to stack some wig wag/ switchback reversals prep blanks so i can get a few things going at once while i work so when im letting things settle in the kiln im working on something else, ill see if its too much seems ideal to get in a flow and crank some things out. any tips on disconnecting blow tube and getting some clean mouthpieces having trouble with that

[Freefireglass]

Heat up the connection where your blow tube meets your mouthpiece with a tight, narrow flame. Once it's almost white hot, take it out of the flame and pull them apart quickly. Your goal is to pull that small heated section very thin so it will be easy to pop a hole with your flame. If you can't get the flame to pop open a hole, wait for the thin glass to cool and snip it open with some shears (just make sure to run water through your piece before using/selling). Hope that helps. great work so far!

[Jxbey]

thanks

[snoopdog6502]

WOW you are 200 times better than I am, whoa, you are kicking ass.

[GhostWorks]

Nice work!

[gemini]

Very good looking progress! Keep rocking it.

[Jxbey]

thanks all, wait till you see these next ones. fortunate to live in an area where theres some young glass blowers on the come up ive been able to link with and pick up somethings a little quicker. my mans and i have a mini tube in the works hes starting to stop out every weekend when he picks up his oxy win win for both of us to feed off each other. hes got a year under his belt and hes making minitubes now nothing crazy but he likes my color prep and wig wags so we are able to throw down somewhat together. im a fast learner and him stopping by fequently is gonna help me greatly

[monte]

That's awesome man it helps a lot to be able to melt with other people. I have yet to find someone in my area to get together with.

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[solarflare glass]

Really like that retticello

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the synthetic opal looks like shit note to self never buy synthetic opal again

[snoopdog6502]

I thought synthetic opals are the way to go?

[istandalone24/7]

they are. the only opals that are 100% guaranteed to be compatible are Gilson lab created opals. there is one person who claims to have encased a real (natural) opal w/o checking or off gassing, but i've only heard about it.....never saw a pic. if it worked, he got lucky.

[Theborobakery]

Nice progression. Def coming along quick.

[OceanMelt]

Those last pendants look great!

[Jxbey]

thanks, maybe just no more rough opal thats not AAA quality? ive only set a few opals but this one was the first one i had cleaned before encasing it for sure the cleanest one so far but it just doesnt have that opal shine as it should its more see through could have just been this opal

[Jxbey]

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Uncovering the world of fume think id get better effects using less gotta read up on fuming any tips thanks all

[Jxbey]

had to get the snow shot before its gone. spring is almost here never know with MI

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went to grow expo this weekend and seen a few guys from lansing killing it on torch, realized how shitty my oxy cons have had my scorpion running gonna try to have them refurbished. ran tanked on the torch for a few of these spoons completely different working with some heat was able to do these fume spacey spoons on coablt with clear dots/lines in 15-20 mins rather than 30-45 mins

[OceanMelt]

I hear ya on the oxycons - I'm using a sequal integra, which works awesome, but I went to a local artists house over the weekend and hooked up to tanked. Man was it pleasure! I'm about to say F it (to my neighbors) and get a homefill instead of a second unit.

edit - nice looking spoons btw :)

[dustyg]

I hear ya on the oxycons - I'm using a sequal integra, which works awesome, but I went to a local artists house over the weekend and hooked up to tanked. Man was it pleasure! I'm about to say F it (to my neighbors) and get a homefill instead of a second unit.

edit - nice looking spoons btw :)

Are you sure it was the pressure that made the difference? If it's purity, I don't see how a homefill is going to help. There's a noticable difference between tanks and my concentrator, even at low pressure and low flow.

[OceanMelt]

I may be a bit confused on what you mean/asking... I had the tank set to the recommend settings (8oxy/2prop - Bravo). I don't have a gauge to measure what psi is coming out of my oxy, but it's probably pretty close - the only thing I can't get is a super reduced flame (loud/hissing), which I think is beneficial.

Don't homefills yield very pure tanked oxygen? I thought they won't even pump into the tank unless it's at a certain purity?

[Ray]

90% is all homefill requires.

[dustyg]

I may be a bit confused on what you mean/asking... I had the tank set to the recommend settings (8oxy/2prop - Bravo). I don't have a gauge to measure what psi is coming out of my oxy, but it's probably pretty close - the only thing I can't get is a super reduced flame (loud/hissing), which I think is beneficial.

Don't homefills yield very pure tanked oxygen? I thought they won't even pump into the tank unless it's at a certain purity?

It's not any more pure than a concentrator, since it uses a concentrator to fill. Tanked is over 99% pure, whereas concentrators typically put out between 88% and 95%. The only advantage of the homefill is high available pressure and unlimited flow (lpm) until the tank is empty.

I'm saying that for my torch, the advantage of tanked over concentrators is not pressure or flow, which are the advantages of the homefill, but purity, which isn't.

[LooseSeal Baller]

homefills won't fill a tank unless the purity is at least 90%...

Personally i can't tell the difference between store bought and homefill...others agree...

I'm not sure what dusty is talking about.

If you think about it, the drop in purity is probably very similar to adding compressed air, like the new gtts... but much less control i suppose.

No i'm not trying to say use homefill o2 instead of buying a new gtt set-up.

it was just a thought.

[dustyg]

homefills won't fill a tank unless the purity is at least 90%...

Personally i can't tell the difference between store bought and homefill...others agree...

I'm not sure what dusty is talking about.

I use concentrators most of the time - I'm not saying it's a bad idea. It seems like he's expecting a difference between a homefill and concentrators, and unless he's wanting to increase pressure or flow, he's going to be disappointed.

I can tell a difference between tanked and concentrators, even (especially?) on a small flame using low pressure, and it's not due to pressure or flow, so it seems that purity is the difference.

[LooseSeal Baller]

I use concentrators most of the time - I'm not saying it's a bad idea. It seems like he's expecting a difference between a homefill and concentrators, and unless he's wanting to increase pressure or flow, he's going to be disappointed.

I can tell a difference between tanked and concentrators, even (especially?) on a small flame using low pressure, and it's not due to pressure or flow, so it seems that purity is the difference.


have you used homefill tanked o2? it doesn't sound like it. not trying to be rude. but like i said i cant' tell the difference not even a little. I have a couple friends who say the same thing. I used store bought tanks for 3 years, and one guy has been lampworking for 17+yrs and the other has been doing it for at least 10+years. They both say that the difference isn't noticeable...

Personally i haven't ran off a concentrator alone so maybe you are correct. but it seems if that were the case the homefills wouldn't be so popular...just sayin or the HVLP for that matter...

Pm me dusty and we can chat there instead of on this progress thread.

Jxbeys your shaping looks nice! I like those sherlocks with the red stems!

[OceanMelt]

Well the tanked oxy I was running off was via homefill. Forgive my ignorance as I'm still very new, but it seemed like my flame was hotter and more capable. Maybe it was all in my head. It would be nice to not have pressure limitations though, especially moving forward in the future with other torches.

Thanks for the info....and sorry for the slight derail on your page Jxbey!

[Jxbey]

no derail at all im debating what i should do next ive been looking into linking oxy cons vs hoooking up a few to a compressor w/ storage tank vs getting a homefill hooked up vs liquid. we have two torches running at about 40 hours a week trying to figure what would be best for my situation especially once im running at higher psi on bigger torches. looking to get higher pressures from the oxy cons i havent noticed a difference in tanked vs generated oxy other than the pressure. i have no idea what psi the concentrators are putting off one set at 6lpm and another at 8lpm linked togther and then straight to scorpion.

[dustyg]

Well the tanked oxy I was running off was via homefill. Forgive my ignorance as I'm still very new, but it seemed like my flame was hotter and more capable. Maybe it was all in my head. It would be nice to not have pressure limitations though, especially moving forward in the future with other torches.

Thanks for the info....and sorry for the slight derail on your page Jxbey!

It's probably the difference in pressure. A 20psi concentrator only maintains 20psi against a stopped flow. Once it's allowed to flow, the pressure drops off, though I've got no idea how much.



have you used homefill tanked o2? it doesn't sound like it. not trying to be rude. but like i said i cant' tell the difference not even a little. I have a couple friends who say the same thing. I used store bought tanks for 3 years, and one guy has been lampworking for 17+yrs and the other has been doing it for at least 10+years. They both say that the difference isn't noticeable...

Either the difference is noticable, or my concentrators are putting out lower purity than you're getting. I work different than most lampworkers, using a smaller flames to make smaller items, so it could just be that slight changes affect me more.

[LooseSeal Baller]

no derail at all im debating what i should do next ive been looking into linking oxy cons vs hoooking up a few to a compressor w/ storage tank vs getting a homefill hooked up vs liquid. we have two torches running at about 40 hours a week trying to figure what would be best for my situation especially once im running at higher psi on bigger torches. looking to get higher pressures from the oxy cons i havent noticed a difference in tanked vs generated oxy other than the pressure. i have no idea what psi the concentrators are putting off one set at 6lpm and another at 8lpm linked togther and then straight to scorpion.

If you want the easy and most affordable i would go homefill. I run a mirage and it does well on the homefill supply. my 2 friends mentioned before use cc's. one homefill can provide oxygen for 40hrs of torch time a week.

each has its pros and cons. while the homefills are cheap and pretty safe, they aren't the easiest to fix unless you're handy, but a + is they can be bought used and are fairly common.

Supplying your own compressor with o2 and storing it in a tank has it pros and cons as well. I see it as a faster turn around on o2, but it requires more safety precautions, and figuring flow rates etc... vs a homefill(mainly because the homefills are engineered for medical use and have to meet extreme safety guidelines)and hook into o2 bottles that are oxygen cleaned and safe. Filling your own storage tank to low pressures isn't necessarily dangerous, but you should follow proper cleaning guidelines, and never cut corners when it comes to safety.

as for buying o2 from a company, i can't even imagine doing that anymore. (i'm sure others have got good deals on liquid, but when i was on liquid the rental fees were 3$ a day...so 90$ a month +120 fill etc...it worked well for 3-4 people in our shop, but on a smaller scale i don't blow enough glass by myself to make it worth while.

I say do the homefill you won't regret it. i haven't met anyone who's said different.

[OceanMelt]

no derail at all im debating what i should do next ive been looking into linking oxy cons vs hoooking up a few to a compressor w/ storage tank vs getting a homefill hooked up vs liquid. we have two torches running at about 40 hours a week trying to figure what would be best for my situation especially once im running at higher psi on bigger torches. looking to get higher pressures from the oxy cons i havent noticed a difference in tanked vs generated oxy other than the pressure. i have no idea what psi the concentrators are putting off one set at 6lpm and another at 8lpm linked togther and then straight to scorpion.

How close to full potential would you say your scorpion is running off just the oxycons? I've been on the wait list for a Sidewinder specifically b/c I had planned to only use oxycons.

[Jxbey]

How close to full potential would you say your scorpion is running off just the oxycons? I've been on the wait list for a Sidewinder specifically b/c I had planned to only use oxycons.

The oxy cons currently have me running at like 25% of tanked but i had got these oxy cons used from the owners of torch previously and he was happy to sell them he gave me a fair warning they were on the out. gonna see about getting them refurbished or buying some used from the business refurbing them local if not from saltcity. i couldnt accurately answer that question until i hook it up to oxycons that i know are running at 100%. upgrading from alpha was awesome huge new flame but its hard to compare that og flame i got first week running it to now but ive been able to watch the oxy cons dwindle down slowly. seeing someone run tanked and coming back to running my torch is what made me realize how awful shape the oxy cons really were but before that i was working fine not thinking twice about it. i could still run the oxy cons and make whatever im capable of its just alot slower pace. when i bought the torch he warned me not to run tanked becuase i wouldnt want to go back to oxy cons. again ill see once i get new oxy cons hooked up i think it will make a huge difference but from what ive gathered oxy cons wont be as good as tanked unless you have something pressurizing the flow. ill post once i get her rehooked up to new oxy cons hopefully this week unless i need to get them from salt, how long have you been on waitlist for sidewinder?

[OceanMelt]

Yikes! 25%...that's rough. I've been on the list since the end of August - I stopped following up b/c it seemed pointless. And if I go homefill then I no longer need a low pressure torch, and would be inclined to just get a triple mix. Hope you get your oxycons sorted out quick, sounds like any upgrade and you'll be stoked!

[Jxbey]

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Enjoying running tanked gotta fix the crack running in the wigwag hopefully. spacey tech with fresh water wig sections by goldengate with poor man encalmo silver iris/cobalt on bowl. seeing what operating at different psi does might run centerfire on oxycons tanked outer even after i get the cons fixed, have to see how good flow rates are.

[Jxbey]

Got intouch with local oxy con repair turned out to be really helpful dude who knows quite a bit about glassblowing torches running off concentrators. knew all the torches capable of running off cons and what he could do to maximize the concentrators for maximum function with torching in mind. check out his website hobbiesforus.com contact by phone and let him know what torch you are using and he can guide you. 586-524-7505
found out one of my oxy cons wasnt functioning properly and the other was just fine was able to test psi at 9 and purity around 95% on both concentrators but still not runnning my outer fire near potential, id say at about 50% with my current setup. Gonna try working something out with him to link up another oxy con soon so id have 3 linked together, 2 5lpm 1 10 lpm all most likely at 9psi and see how my outer fire works, if its not up to par id return it and get a footpetal and just run the 2 cons on center and tanked on outer. the 2 oxy cons runs the center fire(cricket) at 100% just dont have pressure that the outer fire needs. one step closing to figuring out solution

[dustyg]

That's cool, congrats. I got my previous pair of concentrators from Jay at hobbiesforus. They lasted me a long time, and Jay was always had great service on the rare occasions I needed it.

[OceanMelt]

Nice, glad to hear things have improved :)

[snoopdog6502]

I am running a Cheetah on a new 8lpm-15psi from salt city glass and it does a pretty good job, 2 would realy kick ass.

The Cheetah is 13 jets much like the Scorpion. I kind of wish I would have gotten a Scorpion, the triple mix is not anything I would have missed.

[Jxbey]

i really like the scorpion and have thought about getting another that way me and shopmate are running same setup. i had seen your post snoop about the oxy cons not running torch full boar heatwise but its workable and easy on the wallet and back and i feel that. your 15 psi is whats keeping you cranking like i said mine are only at 9 psi linked together they arent at 18 because the flow is lost linking them maybe around 13 ish psi rocking out from 2 linked together and thats against a closed system rather than them running torch. might see about running just one on center see how that works that way once we get 2 2 stages going we each have a single oxy con on center and tanked outer maybe not. if not running 2 oxy cons for each center fire tanked outer. looking into 2nd torch atm if anyone has anything they want to get rid of let me know. really open to anything bigger than alpha and bigger the better, been thinking about champion but i feel like i could get just as much out of a red max as far as not needing a petal because its not 2 stage running oxy cons on top fire and tanked for bottom. all honesty champion would be too big for my needs atm the scorpion is perfect size for what i want to be doing in now/near future but i need to get my bud off the alpha asap

[LooseSeal Baller]

i really like the scorpion and have thought about getting another that way me and shopmate are running same setup. i had seen your post snoop about the oxy cons not running torch full boar heatwise but its workable and easy on the wallet and back and i feel that. your 15 psi is whats keeping you cranking like i said mine are only at 9 psi linked together they arent at 18 because the flow is lost linking them maybe around 13 ish psi rocking out from 2 linked together and thats against a closed system rather than them running torch. might see about running just one on center see how that works that way once we get 2 2 stages going we each have a single oxy con on center and tanked outer maybe not. if not running 2 oxy cons for each center fire tanked outer. looking into 2nd torch atm if anyone has anything they want to get rid of let me know. really open to anything bigger than alpha and bigger the better, been thinking about champion but i feel like i could get just as much out of a red max as far as not needing a petal because its not 2 stage running oxy cons on top fire and tanked for bottom. all honesty champion would be too big for my needs atm the scorpion is perfect size for what i want to be doing in now/near future but i need to get my bud off the alpha asap

All the other info i've read says the psi doesn't increase.

Say if you link 2 or 3 oxycons together and they all put out 9 psi.... the psi is going to be 9...the flow will increase but i don't think that will raise your pressure. I could be wrong, but thats what dozens of others have said. Maybe they are all wrong. idk.

Do you have a psi gauge hooked up to confirm this? or is it just speculation?

[OceanMelt]

I agree with Barry...all the research I've done says PSI does not increase when linked, only flow increases. And you should really use oxycons that are all the same PSI for optimal performance.

[dustyg]

When using all of a concentrator's flow, the psi takes a hit, so your 9psi concentrator might only maintain a pressure of 2psi when you're raging your torch. If you add another concentrator so that you're not maxing out the flow, it keeps the psi from taking that hit (or at least keeps it from taking the full hit), and increases the effective psi. It's not that you get 18psi out of 2 9psi machines, but that having 2 makes it to where you might actually get 9psi out of them because you're not using their flow fully.

I've paired concentrators with differing psi's before. What happens is the concentrator with lower pressure doesn't even flow until the other concentrator is almost at max flow. I don't know if that's bad for the machines or not, but I do know that it gave the torch a much higher top-end than either machine alone would give.

[LooseSeal Baller]

When using all of a concentrator's flow, the psi takes a hit, so your 9psi concentrator might only maintain a pressure of 2psi when you're raging your torch. If you add another concentrator so that you're not maxing out the flow, it keeps the psi from taking that hit (or at least keeps it from taking the full hit), and increases the effective psi. It's not that you get 18psi out of 2 9psi machines, but that having 2 makes it to where you might actually get 9psi out of them because you're not using their flow fully.

I've paired concentrators with differing psi's before. What happens is the concentrator with lower pressure doesn't even flow until the other concentrator is almost at max flow. I don't know if that's bad for the machines or not, but I do know that it gave the torch a much higher top-end than either machine alone would give.

hooking up concentrators with different psi could result in backflow to the weakest one.

Putting in checkvalves can prevent this from happening, but it doesn't really solve the underlying issue.

These are all reasons why people use a booster to up the psi. whether it be homefill or oil-free compressor. There is a ton of info on here about this stuff, searching around will help.

good luck.

[dustyg]

Putting in checkvalves can prevent this from happening, but it doesn't really solve the underlying issue.


Yep, I've got my Gast compressor, just need another concentrator and some clean tanks.

[Jxbey]

yeah im making sure all the psi are set at 9 so when i am raging the torch im getting as near to 9psi as i can that pressure is measured against a closed guage not a open torch, although when the oxy cons are running the torch being full boar doesnt really change how much the oxy cons are pumping out becuase when its off im leaving the oxy valve wide open so it can flow as much as its able to keep stress off machines. but yeah i got confused on what my goal is by linking the machines together rather i was leaving out common sense the fact that 2 machines are going 9 psi but linked together im still only gonna get 9psi, meeting with jay tomorrow to grab another 5lpm machine to link together to see how if operates outfire with them all chained togetherr. also going to test 1 on center 2 on outer try to test machines psi and purity levels at different settings that way i know what works best on my situation. ran torch for few hours today with oxy cons on center fire tanked outer and loved it. barely used any oxy atleast compared to running all tanked ;) gonna just sip it once i get me a footpetal but thats if three machines wont power the torch to my needs. i have to take back what i said about the centerfire running at 100% off the 2 cons its probably more around 80% but it fits my needs especially when i have the tanked outer for the real heat when i need it.

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Connecting bridge to top of can rather than bottom way better shaping these are first 2 WITHOUT mini hand torch. Got foot pedals from @eranparkglass had to use my y from mini torch to hook up pedal. SOO worth it saving a ton on oxy, running centerfire off cons and tanked outer just sipping it with the foot pedal. foot pedal not only helps on oxy helps me be a lot more precise in working becuase i can go from heating an entire section fast with outer fire hit pedal go to centerfire and focus heat where i want it without having to touch torch, helps tremendously

Some super heavy fume on these

[Dan Kooper]

Nice work

[Jxbey]

First and 2nd munny learning a ton from dan^ working at bulletproof glass already in these first few days gonna help me progress alot working in this environment :D

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[hashmasta-kut]

farout, keep it up!

[monte]

cool man, looks good. Your a lucky dude Dans new place looks sweet!

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Dans making a catalog for shops to look at while thats happening and we wait for orders ive been able to play on lathe past couple days love it. got the basics down from watching dan after its all practice. dropped some super shitty downstems into these today so much bigger than the mini tubes ive made. space one might come out alright the can shown cracked made another

sick drippy "munnytube" made by dan kooper himself haha he kills these smaller rigs they function great
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making some nicer sherlocks now that i got the shaping down check my Instagram link for the 360 view nice opal set on other side. chris(313glass) did the female torso molokoglass encased opal. stands super nice got another one like this in the kiln with all linework from the first vac stack we've done at the new bulletproof location trying something new almost everyday never a dull moment

[OceanMelt]

Looks awesome dude, making some serious progress now. Envious of the full time gig!

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[monte]

wow, you've been busy. Great work

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Monster series from Bullet proof glass. dan had showed us a monster style spoon he did a while back and we have expanded on the idea. gotta post some stuff my shopmates are making they arent on here and are killing it. we realized how much more we understand glass recently and it shows in the things we can make now. im beyond stoked on this "kush monster"
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after fixing a small check in the can on this banger hanger this white spot formed anyone know what caused this wasnt any kiln dust so i thought appeared when i was mini torching the check next to this area the radiant heat made it form looked like moisture took a second to see if it was on outside or inside can it was obvious once out the kiln it was on the surface didnt seem to change even when directly torched. brought piece with me to buy the banger because i was gonna keep it shop ended up buying it even with the smudge shopmate went in there today and they got it next to some real heaters i was stoked. jross teal banger hanger on the right jross and bishop vorhees collab on left mines lacking the flower bowl those condensed bowls are making a comeback over the pushbowls

[hashmasta-kut]

Dude, I may be able to help you but with that almost a complete lack of punctuation, I am not reading more than about 20 words, sorry.

[Mr. Larry]

Wow, I looked at your first page, and you have really gone far. Keep it up.

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[James M]

Killin it Jxbey, nice work my man.

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MGP coming up end of this week, volunteering this year gonna be a great event see ya there

[Rgz]

Nice man! Great ideas and progression. Thanks for the shots.

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MGP was awesome, brandon martin x banjo x phil siegel x cha cha x punty. left day after glass project for a matt tyner class at Pittsburgh glass center with a homie got blessed with the spot opening due to said homies brother breaking his hand. made for an awesome 2 week window of some serious knowledge gain. moving into new shop space currently with a few other homies getting ready to make some heat to keep us warm all winter long :canadian:
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Qanat Recyclers about to get crazy with attachments on them, love this design funktion on point

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[bowlpusher]

Glad to see you active on the forum. Looking good. Keep crushing. Thanks for having us out at the Cup this weekend. That was a ton of fun.

[Christian]

Killin it homie!

Sent from my SM-G920T1 using Tapatalk

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Hyped on all these Qanats with the michigan homies!

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