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Swim
08-23-2015, 12:44 PM
I had this thread idea from the let me see your wrap and rake. I have been working on inside outs when I had time away from prodo, and I am starting to get good enough that I am using better colors that cost more and going all out a little more. I couple of these are good, but the best one I have ever made checked like the fuck, and it was the heavy blue leprechaun that checked. please give me a list of colors that are gonna want to check with ISO work. and on top of that, let me see your baller ass inside outs so I can get some ideas and admire. lets do it folks, dont leave me hangin775887758977590

Stegee
08-24-2015, 05:55 AM
The more sparkely the color, the more likely it will check under clear unless babied through annealing. HBL is an awesome color and high on that sparkely scale. Try garaging your kiln around 950 while you work and then anneal for standard times at the end of the day. When I was hard into ISO I'd just make them regularly all day, with the kiln at 950, and the last couple/few last ones I'd crank it up to 1050 to anneal the batch.

The Goat
08-24-2015, 07:36 AM
Figured I share this again

I hot rod crack 38, 44, or 50 usually into a 3" both open end tube and stick them in the kiln to heat. punty up TO THE SIDE of the tube and do work inside, both ends are open so its easy and no flare back ;). then grab one end with claw grabbers heat and marver the other end to attach blow tube. marver other end down closed and ready to go. IMO easiest and fastest way to do it. no flaring, minimal marvering.
Takes a little while to get used to drawing inside the tube because you can't spin it, but you'll get used to it.

those cut tubes in the back ground are what I punty up to the side of.
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Swim
08-24-2015, 09:42 AM
I was hoping to see some art, i will stick with my inside out method, not really interested in changing it

Swim
08-24-2015, 09:45 AM
Figured I share this again

Are you gonna show some of the work you made with this method?? I was not looking for new ways to do ISO

blueburnsorange
08-24-2015, 10:12 AM
please give me a list of colors that are gonna want to check with ISO work. and on top of that, let me see your baller ass inside outs so I can get some ideas and admire. lets do it folks, dont leave me hangin

I'm confused, in your OP you specifically asked for help with color choices and ideas but in your last comment you said you don't want to learn knew ways to do ISO.

The Goat
08-24-2015, 10:44 AM
sorry dude, I was just posting it. No need to get butt hurt. If you click the first link it's a pic of finished pieces. I thought it would share the pics not links. To save u the trouble of opening a link.
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Swim
08-24-2015, 11:20 AM
just post a pic man, I am cool with the method I have. I would have asked if I thought I needed a new method

istandalone24/7
08-24-2015, 11:30 AM
let me see your baller ass inside outs so I can get some ideas

try the open tube tech...you might be pleasantly surprised. i watched a dude do it like that (ka9ak) and first was like wtf, then watched him do it a few times and it looks way easier. i haven't yet tried myself, more or less just chiming in that it's a pretty easy way to do it, and also very easy to get them all the same size if you cold cracking the tube and preheating the blanks in the kiln.
every pipe the exact same size.

Snow Diesel
08-24-2015, 12:16 PM
Figured I share this again

Out of the 5 different techs I've seen, this is my favorite.
"The Goat" thanks for sharing this great technique.

The Goat
08-24-2015, 02:03 PM
Here's some off my phone.
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BORO
08-25-2015, 10:30 AM
http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?57675-IShOts&highlight=iso

dansean
05-29-2018, 11:31 PM
Inside out reminds me of a Cosby sweater, and gets me haunted by the cos. If I made one I would call it “Fallon’s favorite”. because of how many times jimmy Fallon had Cosby on his show even after like 100 rape charges. I don’t like to see people wasting their time it’s precious.
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Some of the time I think about marbles especially lensed crown marbles when I’m running on the treadmill and my eyes get relaxed enough to follow the focus of the marble I’m rotating in my mind and and I get an “eye trick” that reminds me of focusing a microscope. Basically a chunky mechanical looking microscope shape crossed with a squat engine and body with all clear blue gears that looks like it’s made out of ga alchemy rain drop or similar is the easiest on the eyes functional piece art piece. I saw this thing on viceland tv at the end of a dinner session I can’t find it online. The shimmery transparent blue jelly looking gears are the coolest. Pieces that resemble things that are famous for lenses are worth a closer look. If it relates to lenses it might sell to a marble or paperweight collector but not me I’m just interested in selling marbles and pendants. Often times a great piece resembles something you don’t have at your house that you wish you did.

Nomad
05-30-2018, 12:56 AM
I really like the Look of Goat. I would suggest all the Glass Alchemy colors. A lot of the northstar colors like cherry and canary are nice also. You actually use less color on inside-out at a lower temp. So it's all about melting the clear and the amount of energy it takes to melt the glass. I mean you will put twice the time into the piece but half the color to get the same effect.

dansean
05-30-2018, 01:31 AM
Didn’t realize this was a how too... Remember to plug your blow tube when you start shooting flame into ur tube or bubble so ur handle doesn’t heat up too much. I’m not interested in justifying a Dr. that’s y I give a safety tip.

Roadrunner11
02-23-2019, 10:13 PM
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Zed
02-24-2019, 02:18 AM
ISO with flash on


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Mute
02-24-2019, 05:45 AM
just post a pic man, I am cool with the method I have. I would have asked if I thought I needed a new method

classic...

you started this thread...where is your pic...just sayin:puzzled::o:

Roadrunner11
03-13-2019, 07:33 PM
2 more amigoshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190314/b0eb23fec064b5cbb4e6d80d8c35ea81.jpg

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Nomad
03-14-2019, 07:58 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190314/d4677379f92df7e093c289cf4c4d92c5.jpg
Here’s a bubb I did.


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Roadrunner11
03-14-2019, 12:09 PM
thats sweet man i like that

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Shattered Dreams
03-14-2019, 12:31 PM
nice, much better than the wrap and rake

Nomad
03-14-2019, 04:19 PM
Would be nice to sell more of them. $100 each and I sell a couple a year.


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Misfitman
03-14-2019, 05:15 PM
How in the hell do you post pictures on this sight now days

Subduction
03-14-2019, 05:51 PM
The server provider was sold to another entity last year (without Misha's knowlege). Photo albums have been lost in the transition and the only pictures now are from peoples' phones (Tapatalk, at least).
Edit: or external URL

Roadrunner11
03-14-2019, 05:54 PM
damn i know that more show up on the full site. maybe 10% more

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Misfitman
03-14-2019, 07:29 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190315/a7cb81e61197c382a2ba3023b19c2883.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190315/edca9eac65637c15fe5c78c92d175447.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190315/5048bb5afa9cd08b56b328f6d2eb6685.jpg

Some of my recent spoons brought to you by the newly downloaded Tapatalk app. Fuming is freaking hard to replicate for me. I seem to overdo it a bit with the gold I think

Thanks sub for the tip on posting pictures

Also holy shit that this thread was started in 2015

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Roadrunner11
03-14-2019, 07:35 PM
i don't know about overdoing the gold. that look could be very desirable. lots of colors, got some nice green in there. the depth on the trapped lines is amazing

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Subduction
03-14-2019, 09:04 PM
I added an edit to my post above, I forgot that an external host site (URL) image can be inserted.

bluevox2088
03-18-2019, 11:15 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190315/a7cb81e61197c382a2ba3023b19c2883.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190315/edca9eac65637c15fe5c78c92d175447.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190315/5048bb5afa9cd08b56b328f6d2eb6685.jpg

Some of my recent spoons brought to you by the newly downloaded Tapatalk app. Fuming is freaking hard to replicate for me. I seem to overdo it a bit with the gold I think

Thanks sub for the tip on posting pictures

Also holy shit that this thread was started in 2015

Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDude that's some great looking work!!

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Mute
03-18-2019, 11:34 AM
nice spoon

Roadrunner11
03-18-2019, 02:56 PM
Cloudtop https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190318/5e6b174c118af2bfccfa7426543f42b4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190318/679441425221179b30c4b328509f669c.jpg

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bluevox2088
03-18-2019, 03:04 PM
Cloudtop https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190318/5e6b174c118af2bfccfa7426543f42b4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190318/679441425221179b30c4b328509f669c.jpg

Sent from my Z981 using TapatalkSick shit man! Got a IG or YouTube?

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bluevox2088
03-31-2019, 01:18 PM
First silver fume. Made with Sterling silver bought at Walmart for 11$https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190331/61967a4589cdd78f23b4c53a16c41497.jpg

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Mute
04-01-2019, 07:42 AM
little less fume, cooked in a nice reduced flame, and you'll get some purple and blues.

maybe try blowing the blank out a little to create a thinner material to catch the fume, then when you condense it back down to thick walls the fume will grow into the clear, and give nicer colors. A nice cool reduced flame does this well and doesn't burn out the fume like a heavily oxidized flame. You'll be able to see the almost metallic looking fume colors you want when done right.

keep it up, looks good

bluevox2088
04-01-2019, 08:28 AM
little less fume, cooked in a nice reduced flame, and you'll get some purple and blues.

maybe try blowing the blank out a little to create a thinner material to catch the fume, then when you condense it back down to thick walls the fume will grow into the clear, and give nicer colors. A nice cool reduced flame does this well and doesn't burn out the fume like a heavily oxidized flame. You'll be able to see the almost metallic looking fume colors you want when done right.

keep it up, looks goodThanks man! Appreciate any an all criticism and tips!! Got lake green an Cobalt tubes today from my friends at wale apparatus. Don't know how fuming does on them yet just shooting from the hip today lol.

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bluevox2088
04-01-2019, 10:15 AM
Lol so when adding frit make sure you fully get the bowl. Does look cool with it clear up front https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190401/81165af2c1d3fbaa9d18616111d821a6.jpg

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Cerberus
04-01-2019, 05:01 PM
Fume outside on cobalt and lake green is awesome classic style. Clear or transparent color dots or frit over the silver will pop, you’re gonna love it. I really like mad back and forth crisscross wraps over fumed chinese color tubes. You’re making good progress, work looks great, keep crankin!

bluevox2088
04-01-2019, 05:11 PM
Thanks man! Yea I need to really play with it and not care about me having to go refill my tank lol. Didn't even think to use frit over the fume thanks for the tip!!!

A local shop grabbed some of my chillums and the second frit pipe I made sold in about 5 minutes after I posted it online so I'm pretty stoked. I can totally see why so many people throw them selves in to this and try an make a career out of it.


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Sparko
04-01-2019, 07:04 PM
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bluevox2088
04-01-2019, 07:06 PM
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Sent from my SM-G960U using TapatalkWhoa! For the love of God tell me you do tutorials haha

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Sparko
04-01-2019, 07:07 PM
Theres a picture of the inside out frit i used to do a couple years ago. I stoped using frit because its my belief that tiny particles of glass we cant see come along with all that crushed glass. Now i wont let it in my studio lol Im a little paranoid about lampworking safety. I mean could you emagine if a jar of open frit fell off the table? My nightmare.

bluevox2088
04-01-2019, 07:15 PM
Theres a picture of the inside out frit i used to do a couple years ago. I stoped using frit because its my belief that tiny particles of glass we cant see come along with all that crushed glass. Now i wont let it in my studio lol Im a little paranoid about lampworking safety. I mean could you emagine if a jar of open frit fell off the table? My nightmare.I only open the frit and add it under vacuum so very low chance of inhaling that but I need better ventilation over all. Once kids go back to school next week I plan on adding another 650 to the room.

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Roadrunner11
04-01-2019, 07:16 PM
Really smooth work Sparko. I love that. So that's fume, dots then frit?

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Sparko
04-01-2019, 07:36 PM
Thanks homie, yeh. That ones a "cut and flip" with some perrywinkle frit.

bluevox2088
04-01-2019, 07:37 PM
Thanks homie, yeh. That ones a "cut and flip" with some perrywinkle frit.Very nice work man!

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Roadrunner11
09-12-2019, 08:14 AM
heres to you guys https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190912/0798ae9691106ad0f4ae5fbdf3d7180a.jpg

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bluevox2088
09-12-2019, 08:16 AM
heres to you guys https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190912/0798ae9691106ad0f4ae5fbdf3d7180a.jpg

Sent from my 6062W using TapatalkBeautiful! What green is that?

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Roadrunner11
09-12-2019, 08:17 AM
NS Exotic

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bluevox2088
09-12-2019, 08:18 AM
NS Exotic

Sent from my 6062W using TapatalkFuck I just had my shit ship from mga. Guess next order! Love it man!

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Roadrunner11
09-12-2019, 08:20 AM
thanks man

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alelexi
09-13-2019, 08:41 PM
Been thinking about trying these again been almost a year it's just so hit or misshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190914/99d564a885b2d537c8f0d01dd61ee52a.jpg

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bluevox2088
09-14-2019, 04:13 AM
Been thinking about trying these again been almost a year it's just so hit or misshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190914/99d564a885b2d537c8f0d01dd61ee52a.jpg

Sent from my Pixel 3 using TapatalkYea fume is a bitch to get right 100% of the time. I get maybe 1 out of 10 with the design I was looking for.

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Swim
09-15-2019, 01:15 AM
wow , funny when a thread you started comes back yeras later. that trashy inside outs i posted to begin the thread we some of the first four or five i made. I need to post my current inside outs in this thread. cool work guys. thanks for posting, always great to see what someone else is doing with an old ass prodo tech

Roadrunner11
09-15-2019, 09:54 AM
that electric blue is poppin dude

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Roadrunner11
09-15-2019, 10:05 AM
bring it swim lets see what u got bro

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istandalone24/7
09-17-2019, 05:09 PM
most of these (actually all of them lol) are old work, at least a few years ago but i thought i'd contribute to the thread when i saw it pop up.


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harpentuan
09-18-2019, 01:54 PM
Great work!

Roadrunner11
09-20-2019, 04:52 AM
ya love the colors


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Roadrunner11
09-20-2019, 04:55 AM
one from last nighthttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190920/38840713933a5455ba34b900f096c28c.jpg

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