gun mounts...mounted

[LooseSeal Baller]

with all the talk about the gun mounts lately, i was wondering if anyone has a picture or link to a gun mount in its mounted position. I've searched the google and can't find anything that remotely resembles them.

found this patent info
http://www.google.com/patents/US4409279

[CheeseNip]

http://www.tuopeek.com/CRTs.html

[hashmasta-kut]

neat!

[OceanMelt]

Wow.......was I way off:glasses2:

[jr23]

Lol you are not the greatest at the reserch .

Google image


Wait for it

Electron gun

Crt


and when you finally put it all together and find a source best of luck that's only half the battle

The shear amount of time and labor after that is mind boggling .

Somehow . I doubt many people could work out the logistics involed to make it even remotely worth wild .


What's crazy is I like you though origins would work I even offered to pay tag to just try it .

So I already ran down your road and thought process .

Tried

Failed

Tried again


81360

[LooseSeal Baller]

Yeah,

Origin boro is gun mount glass. So nobody is salvaging old CRTs for glass origin makes it.

[BORO]

Lol...

Her ya go. Look close.

http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?62411-metal-and-glass-worked-together-(kovar)-(gunmounts)&highlight=metal+glass

[jr23]

Origins white is pretty cool for stuff .

[jr23]

grudge mounts lol

[jr23]

Wtb origins brown in at least 5 pound bundles they ran out for some reason any one got a pile yo

[LooseSeal Baller]

Origin boro is gunmount glass, read glass crafts wedsite, read elantechnologies website, read mountainglass, read similar posts at bottom of page where abe lays it out as well as others.

I was telling people no need to go shocking yourselves, just buy it.

thats cool u salvaged it, I just dont see why. Probably got it for next to nothing...idk

[GlassBBQ]

Origin boro is gunmount glass, read glass crafts wedsite, read elantechnologies website, read mountainglass, read similar posts at bottom of page where abe lays it out as well as others.

I was telling people no need to go shocking yourselves, just buy it.

thats cool u salvaged it, I just dont see why. Probably got it for next to nothing...idk

Gun mounts and origin have the same method of production, but the gun mounts are made with materials not made in today's boro bars. This is why OG moss isn't made any more, dark brown gun mounts became hard to find.

[LooseSeal Baller]

+1

[faded]

But does it UV?

lol

Custy hype.

Skills, Get some!!

[LooseSeal Baller]

Whats weird is when you read elantechnology.com it says they make it the same, and even go as far as listing a code for strict guidelines of the glass.

what material/chemicals or elements did they run out of?

I've got a softglass book that says copper makes bluegreen, and too much will result in aventurine. ?.

[GlassBBQ]

Whats weird is when you read elantechnology.com it says they make it the same, and even go as far as listing a code for strict guidelines of the glass.

what material/chemicals or elements did they run out of?

I've got a softglass book that says copper makes bluegreen, and too much will result in aventurine. ?.

I want to say lead, but not 100%

Here's two sites I've found:
http://yosemite1.epa.gov/ee/epa/ria.nsf/vwAN/S99-23.pdf/$file/S99-23.pdf
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/jma/2013/696428/

Doesn't hit on brown mounts, but I could see why lead isn't used now.

[LooseSeal Baller]

That doesnt make a lot of sense...they use shit like arsenic and cadmium. ?.pretty toxic

[FifDeez]

Tell that to all the flintys in Michigan

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[Aymie]

Gun mounts and Boro Stix are both sintered glass but they are not the same ingredients.

Also, several of you seem to have gone nomad style with your posts. Weird. Lay off the drugs yo.

[LooseSeal Baller]

Ok, I think maybe I get it. So origin still makes the glass but it's not made with lead. Probably for pollution reasons. That actually makes sense.

[Dan Kooper]

Tell that to all the flintys in Michigan

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Tell what?

[Oneiros]

Tell what?

LooseSeal found it odd that they'd stop using lead in the manufacturing process because it's toxic, considering the fact that they use other toxic chems like arsenic and cadmium.



This also raises a slightly offtopic question for me. In the old (2003?) GA literature, GA explicitly states to use a HEPA mask when fuming or working with a number of their colors. However, in the newer (2007?) literature, they only mention HEPA in regards to silver fuming. What changed? Different color formulation/processes? Greater understanding of actual risks presented? Less safety precautions? Anyone know?

[HerbChambers]

I've also heard most gunmounts are from places over stocking and stuff so most of them were never actually used in tvs. no idea if this is factual though.

[Joe Userton]

LooseSeal found it odd that they'd stop using lead in the manufacturing process because it's toxic, considering the fact that they use other toxic chems like arsenic and cadmium.

It's worth keeping in mind that there are all sorts of special regulations for the disposal of any waste containing lead. It's quite possible that the costs for this vs the perceived benefit led to them finding a replacement formula.

[Aymie]

Why is it confusing that they have different ingredients? The gun mounts were made for electronics and the boro stix were made for art glass.

[LooseSeal Baller]

Because of the way it's written on the elan website. Imo

Also, I could see them taking the lead out for landfill reasons. Lots of things were made with lead back then, paint, electronics...

[somewhere]

Just to clear up some stuff

Gun mount is a generic term for the the identify the cheap borosilicate glass bars on the three electron guns in a tv. One for each color. They attach to the electron gun hence the name.

Several companies made them here in the states but most of it went over seas except for origins which may not make them for the industry now but that was the market that put them in business.

The truly rare desirable gun mounts were made by Corning. Once upon a time they could be bought penny's per pound. Many have tried but few succeeded in finding a good use for them. That was the og moss and now they are valuable. Makes me laugh a little as I have been offered barrels of those old Corning gun mounts and never would have thought they would have value. Huge props for those that experiment and find use for these things.

[somewhere]

Not to be redundant but gun mounts, boro bars or whatever you want to call them are just very cheaply made borosilicate colored glass. When I say cheap I do mean that it is the least expensive way to produce a colored borosilicate glass period. It isn't great in fact most would say it's Bleh but for some those colors that can't be found elsewhere are priceless.

[Abe Fleishman]

The only reason corning stopped making multi formed glass parts was due to Amitronics.... Amitronics priced them out of the market by offering cheaper products. The main reason the old brown and green are so good is the base glass nothing else. The base glass that was used is a whole different glass than the standard corning recipes. Corning stopped making that base glass when they shut the muti-form process down. I used to work for the company that used to own elan technology. I also got a copy of the technology transfer from corning on the whole process and formulas so this will debunk all the stories that people have heard.
Abe

[jr23]

I told Barry Allen that the base glass of dark brown gunmounts was different .

He chose to call me a liar .

Like I said it's no SECRET .

Glad you stepped in here Abe .

I tried to mention that the base glass for origins and other mounts are not the same .

I just figured he was hate trolling me so I quite trying to tell him .

If you have the ability to research and a commercial shipping account .

You could have 10 gaylords full of electron guns shipped to your frot door .

Just set up a B.o.l and go .

If your not set up to do shipping in this way get set up first .

The quickest way to get a e-scap company to never call you back , is not being versed in there language .

So Google Gaylord , Bol , and then start your search .

Good luck the e-scrap forums are full of people spilling the beans about what we do with them .

You will run into a guy here called monkey throws poop searching for then in 2010 .

Then maybe see some of my discreet wtb adds . Starting last June .

The e scrap guys told me they think

[jr23]

All the old Crt processing will be wrapped up by 2020 give or take few years based on price of scrap metal and cost of smelting lead from panel glass .

I actually stopped looking for the suppliers and found someone who had beat me to the punch by about 6-8 months .

So instead of freaking out and trying to compete with him .

I ran the numbers and due to his connections if I counted my time pulling 4-6 grams of brown out of each electron gun. It was a no brainer to just buy his .

FYI he had told me he contacted you about batching the glass first .

And it's pretty wild because once this stuff hit the market .

Jred and trev busted out those cool pucks and started batching and pulling tube and doing private auctions.