Age 2016

[B-Rye-oNeR]

:puzzled: anybody...?

[Dan Kooper]

what happens in vegas, stays in vegas..

[HerbChambers]

I just wanna see that AK/gong/ main circle tube!:twitch:

[PyroChixRock]

With all the problems they had this year, I'd be surprised if they can pull off another show. That is of course, only if people are informed of what happened. Not everything that happens in vegas should stay in vegas.

[Dan Kooper]

What were all the problems? Anyone know? I seen people getting kicked out but that's it.

[PyroChixRock]

Here's a partial quote from one of the fb threads, to give you a general idea.


Buyers were not given access to the towers where a bunch of vendors were located. A large number of vendors were kicked out of the towers and made to relocate to another showroom because of the actions of a few, and said booted vendors were threatened with $1200 fines. New showroom got a sketchy handmade sharpie on cardboard hobo style sign to direct buyers to the location. (edit:sign was put up by a vendor because the show did nothing to redirect buyers) Neither buyers nor vendors were offered any sort of compensation. Big party at the circle bar where several people were dosed with an unknown drug without their consent.


The dosing: over 25 people were dosed at Mente's wedding party. one got a test which tested positive for Cocaine, Methamphetamine and Methadone, and says it felt like acid. This is not a problem with the AGE leaders, this is a problem in our industry, and we need to get to the bottom of this. If any of you have any information on this, please come forward.


As for the problems with the show organization itself, there has still been no response from the owners of AGE. A fellow artist commented that their compensation for being made to move venues the last day of the show, was not having to pay the people who carry your shit twice.

This turned into a huge expensive trip for a lot of our people, because of the actions of only a few and the lack of actions by the event promoters/organizers.

[HerbChambers]

Yeah, dosing people is beyond fucked up, not to mention what if they dosed someone with a medical issue? thats a seriously scary possibility, not to mention it was at someones wedding.. Im sorry to hear about the vendors issues too. Im also slightly bothered that they were letting private collectors in for the presale?

[PyroChixRock]

Yeah for sure they are lucky they didn't kill anyone. I have a heart problem, if I had been dosed with something like that I very well could be dead.

[harpentuan]

Damn, if I was there it probably would have killed me. Total assholes.

[MUPH]

what happens in vegas, stays in vegas..

Not this year.. the issues here need to be address in an open forum


Im also slightly bothered that they were letting private collectors in for the presale?

The presale was for "sponsors" only. These people paid thousands of dollars to sponsor the age events and get the first crack at the newest pieces. At the same time, I did see non sponsors wondering around the halls during the presale.

The only vendors I didn't hear complaints from were the vendors in the Muse hall. The Muse hall replaced the Artist Arena #1 from last year at Alexis Park which was the place to be. Now I've heard that some vendors in the towers did very well, and others had nearly no buyers come through. I really haven't seen a pattern there.

To address some people getting kicked out of the venue: When the rules state no smoking, it means no smoking. The rules were a lot more strict at the Hard Rock and if you broke them, you were asked to leave. Some rules certainly seemed to be more enforced than others.

My 2 cents: I did well enough at the show but it was incredibly unorganized. My original booth was in the Muse hall, then I was moved over to the Artist hall 5 days before the start of the show. All of my glass, extra tables, and power were sitting at my other booth. Because I did not have the correct color wristband, I couldn't access my glass. I still don't know why I was moved or who took my place but I can't help but feel that my numbers would have been a lot better in the Muse hall. I know this show has always been pretty political (Vend in July to get a booth in Jan or have a bigger name or a sponsor) and whatever other unwritten rules.. I wish these unwritten rules were all public knowledge to everyone in the community and not so subjective.

The dosing thing absolutely blows my mind. "Accidentally" drugging someone could have killed them or left permanent psychological damage. This is another issue AGE should address with everyone who attended. I certainly hope it's not just swept under the rug. I lost a lot of respect for some vendors over this show because of their behavior and actions to things not going their way.

Overall, I feel like this show alone as set our industry back. The select actions of a few can and have put a stain on our entire community.

[PyroChixRock]

Some quotes regarding some of the common complaints I've been seeing.


The show rooms were virtually inaccessible without a card for the elevator and you couldn't get a card unless you stayed at the hotel, also the show rooms were told not to move furniture or a $1200 fine would be enforced. Green rooms were supposed to be on each floor for smoking but several floors didn't open up causing smoking and coupled with moved furniture hard rock moved everyone off the floor of you violated terms or not. Mid day day two and didn't get to set hack up till day three. Ice attendes got into age for free age attendes and vendors had to pay for ice.. All an all of you weren't in the hall it was minimal foot traffic at best. Very poor communication between orginizers and hotel and staff.



I had a great show in terms of sales, but because of the room key thing, many of the stores that buy my work never made it up to the showrooms. The Hard Rocks alcohol rule was in our contract, which vendors did not see, nor were told about. We weren't allowed to move the beds in the rooms, the rooms were not sufficient vending spaces unless the beds were moved. We were forced to move after the second day, and we "weren't charged extra" . The place we got moved to was dark and crowded, I sold $70 worth of glass the 3rd day many people said they never found the new venue.


I didn't come close to covering my booth fees let alone everything else, it seemed to me and many others in the room that people were being herded into the room with the ballers. It had 5 to 10 times the traffic our room got. There's no logical reason to not have random booth placements!! We ALL should share equally in the foot traffic! And then the people upstairs.... was hard to get upset about my own situation with their's much worse. I understand the logistics of changing the venue, and I did enjoy myself... but in this fabulous community I'm in I was completely takin back at the separation that i seen, something that I don't believe falls on the artists evolved.. hopefully changes can be made and the focus be turned back where it should be! ON EVERYONE!! smile emoticon



People breaking the stated rules and acting like clowns in the hardrock is eric and ellens due diligence? Why arent we there to police our own community. The hardrock was protecting their investment and shut the rooms down accordingly. Eric and ellen did due diligence to rectify the situation by tue


I can speak for myself that I did not puff privately or in public the whole time I was there. Not to mention that smoking rooms at previous AGE shows set the tone for this. The due diligence I spoke of refers to coordinating with the Hard Rock about show rooms in the towers and what could and couldn't be done. I heard from more than one vendor that they were told to move the beds directly from Eric. Also, The clusterfuck at the elevators should have been an obvious hurdle that should have been addressed. Where was the signage that directed attendees to the towers and what attendees were on what floors? Yes, there seemed to be a lack of due diligence.



completely not the problem. No one was informed that there was a bottle limit in the rooms. Nor were we informed there was not ample space in the showrooms to vend. It's the job of the promoters to ensure we have enough space for tables. We didn't have enough space since there were 2 beds in the room, and they took up the entire room. We tried to "roll with the punches" and adapt, so we moved a bed. We were informed we would be charged $1,200 because we moved the bed. This is not a sufficient space for vendors. We were aware of the no smoking rule and most complied. We were also told that we had a smoking area, but that didn't pan out. Also, buyers needed a key to enter our floor. Again, the job of the show to ensure our customers can reach us.


I know someone that shopped via Skype from their couch. A private collector that took a lot home for wholesale. From his fucking couch.....on the Internet.....I don't know that's pretty fucked


Also, I was under the impression that this was an American Glass Exposition. I saw glass there that was very questionable. Also, I have not talked to anyone that had to go through any screening process.


A lot of the gripes are somewhat legitimate but are punches we can roll with. You can't smoke or have alcohol, well no shit. Sucks but whatever. Obscene fees for moving furniture, fight it out. The real problem was that people who wanted to buy my work were literally prohibited from coming to my booth to buy it. Now I have to get it to them the normal way. If buyers who knew exactly where I was couldn't access me, how could I meet many new people. A lot of the folks who did make it would have some complicated tale for how they got in. At one point I was rolling with laughter after summarizing the show thusly. You can't drink, you can't smoke, you can't display your wears, buyers are prohibited from meeting you, have a great show! Anyways, it was an awesome experience hanging with all the good folks. My heart goes out to those who were gambling on success to make it through. (in the tower)


I must say...the per show email said we could not move the beds because they were bolted down. When I checked in to my show room the staff was moving beds around. I asked if I could move the bed, the maintenance staff moved my bed for me. I have said before the best AGE shows are the ones lined up with CHAMPS. It is better for our customers and better for us. AGE should go back to lining up with the other trade shows. I double my orders when we have a common day with them. As per having to move from the tower, just too much for Ed and I. I feel we should get a discount on the next show, but I also question who's fault this was. We are not good at rules. The hotel staff was uninformed. Hotel security was a bunch of want to bes cops, really did not like us. The funniest thing was when they thought they had to check all the gun cases for weapons. Can they even do that? Yeah you could see security wanted to make trouble with us from the word go


The worst was seeing people stopped by security. To check cases for weapons. After they shut us down in showroom and was trying to move or pack up to leave. Arms full of my shit. Now i gotta stop. Drop everything so you can look in my peli covered w glass stickers. Not NRA stickers. Gv me a break....


Trust me the shop owners care..... You think any shop owner appreciates paying the same price as some rich kid who's there only for good prices and not for our industry....it's a industry show! If you want to have a show for the collectors then you should hold one for the collectors and not sell it like a industry show. As a X-shop owner I can assure you they weren't happy either. Like I said before. I know a guy who shopped via Skype from his couch....he got the choice of first pick from his fucking couch..... I have to ask why are we having a industry show if any average joe are able to buy from their couch states away?


heard about this... as I was standing in line for over 2 hours to get into the Muse Hall, a "privilege" that i paid 2k for.


Signage and promotional material was sorely lacking overall. There were no signs that directed buyers from the halls to the towers, let alone which vendors were on which floors. These are small investments overall to cut down on the confusion and make the show more logistically possible.


I didn't do that great. And a store owner approached my friend and asked her to give him a massage in his room and he would buy 7000.00 worth of MY glass! I am completely disgusted by this. This is my lively hood. I'm always on the fence about vending this show



Some issues: Aymie McKesson is pretty close to right on. There were two contracts vendors needed to know about. Their contracts with AGE and AGE's contracts with the Hard Rock. Most vendors only knew about their contract with AGE, but AGE's contract with the rock stated that no more alcohol was allowed in the showrooms than was appropriate for the the persons working in them. Ie, a 6 pack is fine, a keg isn't. One bottle of Jack is fine, 3 is over the line. Okay. Yes, I got dosed and drugged, and so did over 25 others at the circle bar that night of Mente's wedding. It seems like someone had a stupid idea and wanted to test it, and it worked. It left most people shaking and seeing visions for days, but most of the effects wore off after about 12-14 hours.

[PyroChixRock]

Overall, I feel like this show alone as set our industry back. The select actions of a few can and have put a stain on our entire community.

Agreed. :(

It's pretty obvious, nevada is not a legal state, there is no smoking allowed! The hotels having problems with their guests reflects badly on our entire industry. There's no way Hard Rock will ever let us host a glass event there after all this, and who would blame them?

[MUPH]

Does anyone have a link to the Facebook thread?

[PyroChixRock]

I pulled the quotes from multiple fb threads. But check my page and Andy Ray's page for pretty good threads.

[Nomad]

This is too bad. I liked the AGE show that I went to. I thought it could be a good show.
But on the other hand I had the worst experience I have ever had a show out there.
And even know it is not a legal state everyone smoked. I even got to test out some glass in the lounge they had set up. I thought that was the coolest part. It was not as friendly as I imagined it would be though. But I was impressed with the products and it was BYO.
I focused most of my attention on Denver the past couple of years and some east coast trade shows.

[yinzer]

although nevada is not a legal state, they(AGE) have allowed smoking. the last one i went to, they just told people to smoke in their rooms and not the show rooms. the whole hotel was smoked out, and they had to run around stopping people from publicly smoking. i have read a few things about them saying there were going to be smoking rooms, and then not setting them up. while i firmly believe that we will never be taken seriously as long as people are smoking out hotels like this, i also think as much of the responsibility lies on the shoulders of the event coordinators as the "few bad seeds" that I heard ruined it for everyone. if you dont want things to get out of hand, you don't go around telling all of these people they can kind of break the rules. there are way too many people/personalities there to expect anything but crazy.

[MUPH]

There were designated smoking rooms, but since the elevators didn't work and people couldn't get to the designated smoking rooms, they just smoked wherever. They couldn't get to the smoking rooms so they were entitled to smoke where ever, because it wasn't their fault they couldn't get to the smoking rooms

[yinzer]

exactly. you (event organizers) dont just trust that all of these people are going to do what you think they should do. and if there were smoking rooms that they couldn't access, im not sure i blame them. they paid to be there and have their expectations met. if you dont want people smoking out the hotel, then you dont give them the opportunity to, thats all im saying. while coordinating events is a fate i wouldnt wish on my worst enemy, the one thing that is often forgotten is that you ARE kind of an adult babysitter of sorts. you set the rules to keep everything safe and running smoothly

[Nomad]

So other then smoking what was the problem?
I guess people did not get the orders they expected because you could not see the entire show?


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[B-Rye-oNeR]

yeah, I had a room on the 5th floor, I'd say in the end 10% of the buyers saw my glass, if that. It was a complete shit show. Security was way too tight, on the first day I saw no one for 5 hrs, easily . Buyers had no access to our room, for most of the first day. One guy who was still there from the porn convention the week earlier said there was zero security at that event.
On the final day we were moved out of the room we paid extra for, to a concert hall that was never to be part of AGE. It was on the first floor but still well hidden. So the buyers who did actually find us the first/second day were not sure where to find us the final day, when everyone does the spending. I sold one 300 dollar piece, and took no orders. Most time was spent in confusion, being moved around, and hassled. Almost all the problems I had were w the hotel personally, but perhaps they could have been better prepared .

[Jimi The Don]

The entire scene seemed like a dab party to me.
I'm not gonna pretend like I wasn't inebriated while I was there, but I barely smoked, and my inebriation was of a more clandestine nature.
Smoking like that, especially in a state that does not condone is disrespectful to say the least. A large amount of the showrooms I went into had a rig set up; I got sick of the scene after a couple days and was pretty happy when I got home to my soft warm couch and the arms of my teddy bear.
I did not however go to sell, so I cannot comment really on the financial aspect of this event.
In the tower with the sleeping rooms, I did not see, smell or hear anything abnormal.

[Nomad]

That is a lot of money to spend on a show , airfare, booth cost and transportation of glass for that to happen.


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[B-Rye-oNeR]

I had everything invested in the glass pieces I had on display. I could have easily went on a road trip to the tristate area and sold what I had, and spent a thousand less dollars or two. I really hope no one else is in the situation I am. Seemed most people around me were group shops, stores, and distributers. Not that some of them weren't glassblowers, but there were only a handful of rooms with independent artists representing themselves. I met hundreds of glassblowers and about ten buyers. Shit was straight out the twilight zone. Met some cool folks tho, word to Sparkle Pants, Ed Wolfe, Griffin Glass, and all the others that were stuck in the mess. Peace

[daveabr]

What was confusing was, they said there was a no smoking in the room clause that some broke, but yet the promoters had smoke scrubbers and ashtrays set up all up and down the hallway of the tower floors...... And the promoter and homies of them is who was smoking out our floor!!!!!! What do they expect is going to happen when people see ashtrays and smoke scrubbers, along with the promoter and friends crushing the room at the end of the hall? Smoking, that's what. Lots of bad communication with the hotel by the promoters, and misinformation was basically bubbling over. It became a he said she said deal, and no one ever stepped up with a solid public communication. They did not even have a person on a microphone making announcements at all, which would have helped a lot to get buyers to the other rooms/halls. No signage whatsoever and a complete clusterfuck when we all had to break down our rooms. You guys know what an ABR booth looks like. Imagine one, being expected to set that much stuff up in a tiny hotel room with two beds that can't be moved. And then what it was like moving it all through a busy casino in the middle of the night. I've heard at least 20 respectable industry bigs say they will never return. But, I think if AGE would just step up, offer the refunds that are due, and promise a new layout going forward (one hall with everyone getting a fair shake), things could be repaired. But, I don't see that coming. There is a lot to this show, that not everyone understands. We were told it was moved from Alexis Park to the Hard Rock, because new management at Alexis didn't want us there. Well, that clearly wasn't the case, as the AGE promoters simultaneously threw another show there, ICE (International Cannabis Expo), which seemed like nothing more than a giant front for homies to sell oil and such. This also seemed to be a way to lure fanboy dab kids to spend big bucks on a preshow ticket that cost 2K, and to gobble up the glass. AGE has become a fanboy driven show, where dab kids are given preferred treatment and access to the show floor ahead of actual wholesale buying store owners who after travelling there for the show in no way should be expected to pay extra to get first dibs. Especially 1,000 - 2,000 bucks. Insanity. I even heard ICE attendees were given preshow access that other buyers couldn't get even get by paying. If they want to do a gallery show, do it. But don't foot the bill by screwing a bunch of working class lampworkers who sacrifice a lot to be there, by sticking them in a tower booth you clearly had no vision for.

Tough situation for a lot to swallow. This all started going downhill when the artist hall/muse hall was introduced a few years ago IMO. Give everyone a fair shake, in the same room, or at least make over the top efforts to drive the traffic to them. NO signs, NO PA announcements, no true showing of sympathy. Some vendors who didn't even break the rules, were apparently yelled at, and told it was their fault.

In short people, it's time to check this show industry. Is it time to take the show scene back? Run by artists only? How we do it is up for debate. But, artists are being exploited, especially those who aren't the ultra uber heady. And since when does our kind need fancy hotels and casinos? We need to check the moral compass, and people need to get back to work instead of gambling so much on these shows. Some do great, others don't. Wouldn't the several thousands of dollars you spent on airfare, food, hotel, booth, etc be better utilized with real grassroots marketing to ACTUAL store owners? Not dab kids who want a $40,000 piece?



END RANT. Thanks.

[harpentuan]

Laced shit is way fucked up. But air SCRUBBERS? Where you on the space station or something? hahaa

[daveabr]

They were just smoke eaters, clearly there to keep down the smoke from the rooms. But, there was a no smoking policy. Very confusing

[Jimi The Don]

A problem as well is a lot of artists these days are the same dab kids who make the scene ridiculous.

[Jimi The Don]

In high school it was "who can do the biggest bonghit guy" then you grow up a bit and you realize a couple pulls off a nice clean pipe is all you really need, well when I see people doing 8 inch braids of oil and talking about "its medicine fam" I feel lyke I'm in high school again. It's all a fucking popularity contest, just lyke high school.

[oG Glocc Coma]

In high school it was "who can do the biggest bonghit guy" then you grow up a bit and you realize a couple pulls off a nice clean pipe is all you really need, well when I see people doing 8 inch braids of oil and talking about "its medicine fam" I feel lyke I'm in high school again. It's all a fucking popularity contest, just lyke high school.

I agree, we all know you wasted half that rope! we can see the puddle in your banger when your "Done"

[Jimi The Don]

Seriously bruh

[B-Rye-oNeR]

I'd never blow smoke in the face of a coustomer , never smoked in my showroom.

Obviously the only people that will truly understand are the people that were there and paid for a hidden showroom .

[Jimi The Don]

I walked each floor each day and I barely saw anyone

[unfunraygun]

Alexis was always breezy, and they tolerated the shenanigans. Vegas was always bogus as far as a glasspipe convention goes. Oregon, Washington, Colorado, California, all way better spots as far as canna culture goes. Dab kids are the ones dropping money at the moment and the big dawgs are the ones getting the draws, but what the big boys dont say is that most of those heady pieces are already sold and the conventions is just a vacation for the most part and a place to sell some of there seconds and non instagram worthy stuff. Retailers and prodo guys have been bottom of the totem priority at AGE for many years so it is nothing new. Hard Rock was the dumbest choice ever for a venue (crazy convenience across the street from ICE go figure). Also what a stupid fucking name for a cannabis convention considering ice is crystal meth. Eric is okay in my book, but that is about as far as I would go just okay. Dfo is going to be the big expo in my opinion, then Michigan somewhere? And who knows about east coast. Atlantic city is goofball in my opinion and just a ghetto ass Las Vegas option. The bathsalt or whatever happened dosing is pretty horrific. All I know is I am glad I didnt go this year, or last year. Really I never liked going to vegas.

[hashmasta-kut]

I agree, we all know you wasted half that rope! we can see the puddle in your banger when your "Done"


you can do huge hits on a ti pad, no waste.

[MUPH]

you can do huge hits on a ti pad, no waste.

Cmon man.... Save those last ditched sales pitches for a different thread

[hashmasta-kut]

haha, you got me!

Naw, sales.. I wont make any in this thread.

Just saying I have noticed the lack of power of an enail and banger capacity is small too. You can vape a gram on a ti pad if its big enough though. But for the record i am using an enail setup these days(but with a curve still).

[GDEADWHALE]

Dave's description is spot on. Fucking shitshow.

Multiple times I walked into someone's room and they told me that I was the 1st person they'd seen in 2 hours. Day 2 I felt like a roving psychologist.

AGE is always messy but this was some next level shit. Anyone blaming the people in the hotel rooms have no idea what transpired.

"Hospitality" rooms were rented out for people to sleep in. Pieces that were donated to the hospitality rooms were handed out as prizes across the street at the ICE convention (I don't have 1st hand knowledge of this but I trust the people who told me)

The check-in process was so arduous and convoluted that glassblowers trying to get upstairs to buy colors from Dave and others never had a shot.

I could write a book on everything that went wrong but who would buy "How to suck at running a trade show"?

[Dan Kooper]

Age at Alexis park was one of the best times I've ever had. It was in 2010, but it's sad to hear it's going downhill. I hope they can fix it or move it to an appropriate place.

[B-Rye-oNeR]

shit, I wish I had something to sell to other glassblowers there.

I was so depressed I gave all my money to glass and tool vendors.

The ICE thing was way better, lol.
But na, a lady came around the day they shut down the "hospitality" rooms,(smoking room) and gave out tix to the cannna expo nxt door. She said just go over there to smoke if we needed a place, but don't smoke inside bc they are kicking people out. (we had another room in a separate tower that was in fact a smoking room so wasn't really an issue for us) .

I did start this thread and I just want to say AGE is attempting to do what they can to make it right. Most negative aspect seem to fall on the hotel , and poor communication to it's employes and the buyers/vendors attending the event.

[Simian]

I have not seen or heard a single public comment from them. So glad I didn't go this year. I wanted to. Sounds like a lot went wrong in a lot of different ways. Some of the things I have read are so bananas I wouldn't believe them if it wasn't for the person telling me being a super credible source.

[Gibsons Glassworks]

first time doing age. or any other big industry show.. i thought the venue was crazy and we were at the "little kids table" room i felt super bad for the people int he upper rooms that had no traffic and moving everyone down definitely slowed things down for us on day 3 the "buying day" i managed to hand out catalogs but didnt take any orders or make sales more than a 20$ pendant... i feel as though it was a learning experience and if i was to doa booth myself i would have a good idea of how to approach it. crazy money there. either u made huge $ or lost money from what i could see... from the pics .. wish i could have made it to champs. MUPH was beside our booth with Pee Jay Glass and i felt like we had a pretty decent spot but sure was awkward when people come up and look at the glass go .. so this is all sold right?? assuming its all sold and spoken for like in the other room.. but noo.. its all for sale.. bigger venue next time im sure they will pull it off.. and as for the scrubbers.. i was super confused by that too looked like it was setup for blazin but noone was... or were they...cheers

[Aymie]

I think Dave is right. We need to take back control. Let's start by boycotting the Texas show in May. I can think of another event close to that where you would all have more fun anyway.

[Nomad]

I mentioned this conversation to my distributor and I guess they did not have any bad news to tell me. I am still really busy. So it might have just been a bad show. Not all shows stink..... but some really can. Maybe this was an off week?

[Swim]

this might put the brakes on me going to the texas show. I have bad expeeriences with events in general. Always seem to make just enough money to justify it, but want to kill myself when its halfway done. Last year I wound up in a three day commitment at a festival in florida called pass the good............. I now always refer to it as pass the bad. They set us up right in front of some sub woofers and we had awful techno pounding in our ears the whole time. I almost lost it trying to blow glass outdoors and deal with the sensory assault of a bad rave.

[PyroChixRock]

I don't know why anyone would risk AGE at this point. There are other shows, with much better track records.

[Swim]

Possibly this will be the beginning of a bubble bursting with the boro industry, at least this part of it. People paying as much as they are for color. Fighting over serum from GA. Pretty crazy, but seems like there is way more money in selling materials and what not than actual worked glass. I need to become a distributor. I wonder if that would kick off well in NOLA

[RavenMad3]

Any chance of the Melting Pot starting their own show?

[B-Rye-oNeR]

They are offering deals on booths in TX for people that lost in Vegas. So boycott TX would make us loose again .

[unfunraygun]

Glassroots madison wisco

[PyroChixRock]

Any chance of the Melting Pot starting their own show?

No, I don't have the time to run a show. I spend at least half my day here, every day, doing things for others or fixing things or making improvements. It's all I can give. I need a clone haha.

But I'm glad to sponsor events and provide subforums to use to organize, and whatever else the site can provide.

[BORO]

+1 glass roots.

[Aymie]

They are offering deals on booths in TX for people that lost in Vegas. So boycott TX would make us loose again .

I would want to make sure the hotel hosting the event knows what type of event it is before I travelled down this way. I expect they are going to have similar issues. Texas is not friendly to the sort of stuff that went on in Vegas.

[MUPH]

Has anyone heard from any buyers about the show? I wonder if it was frustrating enough for them that they wouldn't attend another AGE

[glassshack]

Has anyone heard from any buyers about the show? I wonder if it was frustrating enough for them that they wouldn't attend another AGE
We Are not going back

[nicko0]

i went to age dallas as an attendee. first vendor i met told me how he was pulled over in his uhaul and illegal search n seizure and arrested.

the show was teenie tiny.

multiple artists per table.

a bunch of non glass stuff

definitely a bunch of import.

the import glass really bothered me. they should be kicked out.
i wanted to just scream chant SHENANNIGANS at them.

super small show

no live demo or flame off

i really dont know if a south central show is gonna be great till the south gets there mind right.