Red max or lynx

[sirhempsalot]

Everyone i asked seems to have one side or the other ive had about equil use with both and other than having to switch flames i like the red max more

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Everyone i asked seems to have one side or the other ive had about equil use with both and other than having to switch flames i like the red max more
Look at richiegageglass on ig thats redmax work i love the choice of having two seperate flame instead of the inner and outter fire when it comes to learning and starting off. Personal opinion

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[jr23]

I go back and forth on this .

I might take a red max over Lynx

But now when I swap out of a big burner for whatever reason .

I always land on a cheetah and a mini torch and Beth sharp flame handtorch and a big Beth handtorch .

I call it the Frankenstein set up . I have made a few of my favorite works using it .

And mostly 97 percent of time am using a smith and a cheetah .

[hammer]

I go back and forth on this .

I might take a red max over Lynx

But now when I swap out of a big burner for whatever reason .

I always land on a cheetah and a mini torch and Beth sharp flame handtorch and a big Beth handtorch .

I call it the Frankenstein set up . I have made a few of my favorite works using it .

And mostly 97 percent of time am using a smith and a cheetah .

Just out of curiosity, which big Bethlehem hand torch? Anyway, I also use a Cheetah and a mini most of the time. I rarely use the Champion anymore. If something is big enough for the Champion outer fire , I just do it on the lathe with a Red Max hand torch.


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[Jackass Glass]

i just got a red max and really like it for a beginner torch. i realize its not as versatile in the end as a inner and outer ( i understand there is some value to being able to make the inner flame more oxidizing etc etc) but i feel like as a noob its nice to have dedicated areas to work. I find that if i focus on the mega minor surface i dont over cook stuff.

the redmax is def more than powerful enough for 26 mm heavy tube as this is as big as i got so far.

[Nuka Glass]

I have the redmax and love it so far. The one draw back is that it is an oxygen hog. To get it to run efficiently you need to pump about 26 psi into your oxygen lines. I ran with 10psi to start and it took forever to heat the glass but when I started using 26psi I realized the potential I was missing out on the torch. Might save some money by setting up a homefill instead of getting refills from the oxy man.

[Jackass Glass]

interesting observation Nuka. I also have increased my psi but not to that level. i think im running 2-3 above rec. like 12-13 psi. May give her a little crank later and see how it plays. Thanks bro

[H1JACK3R]

Just wanted to toss this out there, a buddy runs a red max in my shop and he runs it at 40

[lhelber]

I would give an opinion but it all depends on what kind of work you think you are going to and how much of it. Right now it's like asking what car do you like. Do you like sports cars, van or SUVs?


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[hammer]

Just wanted to toss this out there, a buddy runs a red max in my shop and he runs it at 40

I'll never understand why. I never ran mine over 20 and never needed to.


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[whirlpool]

I did a lot of research when I was looking for my first torch (I went with Redmax with mega minor top) and I can work with 38mm if I'm patient. I run the oxygen at 25psi, which from what I read is common. Like lhelber said, It all depends on what you're doing.

[FifDeez]

Lynx hands down winner because of good resale value when your ready to upgrade down the road. But no reason a redmax can't be your endgame torch on other hand. Really it all is up to what type of work you will be doing most while your learning. And I say there's little point in a bigger torch without skills to use it because I and many, many other artists here can and have rocked just a lynx to assemble what seems to be ludicrously big finished work on what some call the "tiny flame" of the lynx. So I think my vote is clear.

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[Cosmo]

I'm constantly amazed at how much heat a GTT puts out. I ran a CC for the longest time and really had no complaints (had a Red Max/premix before that). But I had the chance to pick up a Phantom and can make much larger pieces on it than I could with my CC even though the Phantom is physically a smaller torch. I find myself doing things with just the lynx center fire that I used to use my CC outer flame for. Then there is also the resale value. You'll be lucky to get half what you paid for a Red Max. But with a GTT it's not uncommon to get pretty much what you paid for out of them.

I'm not knocking the Red Max. It's a good solid torch and won't let you down. But for the type of work I do (mostly marbles and other solid stuff) you can't beat a GTT. I would take a Lynx over a Red Max any day.

[Swim]

GTT is too hot. its so hot you have to cool the flame off by using too much oxy, which also causes the glass to shock and get pushed around if you let it get to hot. Everyone says its better once you are used to it, but i prefer the herbie flame because of this. You will never match the speed of a gtt if you can keep up with it though.

[Swim]

also must agree that I would rather adjust back to using a gtt than having to step down to a red max. Nortel torches have got to be the least hot torches on the market. be prepared to stand there three or four times as long. But hey, people make dope shit with all torches, its more about you learning the glass than what torch you have

[mbashaw]

GTT is too hot. its so hot you have to cool the flame off by using too much oxy, which also causes the glass to shock and get pushed around if you let it get to hot. Everyone says its better once you are used to it, but i prefer the herbie flame because of this. You will never match the speed of a gtt if you can keep up with it though.

This is why I bought a Herbie too. I felt as though I was having to spin the glass much too fast for my personal preference when I was working on the Lynx or a bigger gtt. I haven't had the herbie long but I sometimes catch myself spinning the glass at the speed I was used to spinning it at on my Lynx and I'll catch myself not really soaking much heat at all cause the herbie flame travels real slow. The difference almost feels goofy it seems lol.


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[unfunraygun]

Neither. National 3

[sirhempsalot]

I would give an opinion but it all depends on what kind of work you think you are going to and how much of it. Right now it's like asking what car do you like. Do you like sports cars, van or SUVs?


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I want as versatile as posibly from a tiny flame to something big enough to melt in frit

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[sirhempsalot]

Neither. National 3
Lol my teacher learned on that 20 years ago

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[FifDeez]

National for the win!

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[lhelber]

Everyone says the Lynx is the way to go. I agree it is a good torch, has a lot of heat and a great to go if you think you are going professional and will use a GTT later on. A major issue I have is it is a gas pig. My girlfriend, who has been working in glass for quite a number of years uses one. When she bring it over to my studio it will go through a half of a K tank in about 5 hours. She is making beads, small marbles and pendants in borro. Myself I have a Knight torch that I was able to rescue from the garbage of a company that was going out of business. It cost me $150 to ship to Knight and have them check it out. Not much was wrong with it. I can blast out 1 to 3 inch marbles with it all day long on a quarter of a tank of oxygen. When you are paying $20 per tank and a $13 delivery charge the price of that GTT goes up significantly. I know of others using liquid oxygen also complain when they switch to GTT torches. A GTT is nice and being able to infinitely adjust the width of the flame is really nice but it comes at a cost. Someone new to lampworking would benefit from learning how to do the work from a not so adjustable torch. Plus the savings in dollars will help when starting out since you will be making very little money from your work.

Using a GTT when you are just starting out is a great way to say I have Gobbs of money to put into my hobby and am willing to purchase features that I don't know how to use just because it is cool and all of the big guys use one. Focus on learning the craft with what ever you got or can purchase. The great toys will eventually come if you stick with it. If you don't you are not out as much money. FYI The Red Max is a very popular introductory torch you won't have a problem getting rid of it when and if the time comes.


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[kudabeck]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7fEkdvr6RI lol? your teacher... enough said. nationals are good and they last.

[FifDeez]

I really don't see a lynx going through half a k tank in 5 hours as you say. I have a delta and before I started using oxycons my tanks would last me 9 hours doing massive tube pulls for the entire 9 hour shift. . I'm doubtful about that consumption claim.

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[BORO]

K tank can be 200cf up to 330-340... Hard to say.


If your jumping into glass to pay bills, make pipes,... Redmax all the way. $per hour. Gas is just a expense.


If your jumping into glass as a hobby, a escape, beads, no real expectations to feed yourself from the torch, go lynx.

Idk... Hard choice. I know I can do everything on a red max. I cant do it all on a lynx.

What I can do on a lynx. Will happen faster, and be a cleaner product most of the time.

"Its the wizard not the wand."

[kudabeck]

go Nortel ,having a bushy flame is nice to have when you need it. gtt's are almost to efficient but those striking colors do turn out really good.

[sirhempsalot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7fEkdvr6RI lol? your teacher... enough said. nationals are good and they last.
He said that is not the way to go anymore

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[DickFarm Glass]

Agree with skuzz. My brother rocks a nortel. I ran out of oxy mid weld the other day and used his torch. Night and day difference. I felt like throwing his torch against the wall. Felt like it would never melt the glass

I rock a cheetah but recently got a lynx. I love the lynx even though it is a step down from my cheetah. Lynx is hot and does a tiny pinpoint flame. You lose that with the cheetah

[TacosGlass]

as far as I know AK uses a red max. that says a lot

[Aymie]

I have a RedMax. Started with an 8m, then the RedMax, then a GTT Phantom, then a Delta, then a 65mm Herbie, and now I am back to the RedMax. I miss the magic the herbie works on color, but that's about it. I would vote for the RedMax over the Lynx without question. I can pull stacks on 50x5 with my RedMax and you aren't going to get that on the Lynx. You get used to switching from the top to the bottom pretty quickly. And the premix tip for the red max packs a lot of punch and is amazing for fuming.

Also, I run my RedMax at 3-5 propane and 40-45 oxygen. It's loud, but it's very hot and very efficient. I would guess that I get at least 20 hours out of a tank of oxy if I am not doing huge stuff like working the 50x5.

[Nuka Glass]

This 40psi talk on the oxy has me intrigued. Will have to experiment once the studio is finished.

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