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I am about to invest in glasses again, because I just don't have great eye wear, and I am throwing down for the good shit... that being said, what do you guys like best? I am thinking about going with shade 4 on bottom diddies up top, which I assume is pretty common. I have also considered just going with the shade 4s. Does the split shade set up work well for anyone? As well are there options besides Aura that are "good"? Right now I have philips shade three and they are not comfy. What frames are you guys rockin???
SavageGerbil
07-21-2017, 12:36 AM
I'm just running the old cheapie Ace glasses with shade 3 flipdowns, I will say that I've been wishing I'd gone darker. I figured 3 would be a good balance between protection and ability to see, but I think 4's would be very workable. The 3's aren't as crazy dark as I'd imagined.
I'm with you on planning an upgrade, I've tried friends' higher end shades and man...it'll be well worth the expense.
I prefer light weight comfortable Phillips shade 5.
I went down the rabbit whole with glasses...
I've had...
3/5 split
Straight 5's
Aura 250 shade 4's,
Aura 250 shade 5's
Aura 250 shade 6
Now back to Phillips shade 5, which I feel are the best for me. Most comfortable best coverage I've found.
Don't really care for the aura's, they are at least twice as heavy and there is a gap in the lamination that is annoying.
My experience, everyone is different
Cerberus
07-21-2017, 06:05 AM
I have new Aura shade 4/diddy split glasses, custom scrip lenses, readers for my old eyes. Super nice but definitely heavy. The split lens is fantastic, if you find yourself looking over the top of your current shades you should really consider the splits. I love them. Mike includes a nice cord and if you keep it snug on your head the weight is not so bad, after a couple weeks I didn't mind at all.
I also have Phillips shade 3 glasses, very light but the shape is not so comfy on my head.
You should try on as many different frames as you can and choose by comfort.
Aura shade 4 blocks less "visible light" but more radiation than my Phillips 3's. Looking around my bench i can see more clearly thru Auras but the torch glare bothers my eyes less if that makes sense. I would have gone with 5's if i had known how light the 4's were.
Jackass Glass
07-21-2017, 06:28 AM
phillips and ive got some back up walewear ones. i like the light weight. the heavy pair i had would always slide off my nose with sweat.
I found the shade 5 too dark for me, even in a well lit studio. I always ended up having to look over the top of my lenses. I currently Oakley shade 3's and I purchased some nose pads on Amazon that keep them in place even when it's crazy hot out.
PyroChixRock
07-21-2017, 09:33 AM
I have Aura (would never wear phillips) split lens with 1/3 shade 3 on top and 2/3 shade 5 on bottom.
dplaza
07-21-2017, 10:02 AM
that sounds like a nice setup^
i have phillips fit over shade 3, they kinda suck. working with color their shade 3 is not dark enough imo. but i also have blue eyes (more sensitive?).
im thinking just going shade 4, i dunno if i could handle split lens it might drive me nuts. also i have terrible vision, and shade 5 is really dark on the basic gas welding goggles i have. i would need some serious lighting upgrades if i was going with shade 5
you guys are making me think I want shade 5 on the bottom and diddies on top, for sure I look over the top of my glasses constantly when I am searching for a small hole in a seal or at my bench for a tool. I think I have made my choice, just wish I could try a few. I am gonna make my order and pay monday. I need comfy shades, but weight is not so big a deal for me, I have alot of native american blood so my skin is very oily and I have to have a head band regardless. Thanx for the info and keep it coming guys. Money is tight and I want to be confident in the purchases that I have to make to stay in business
I wear Aura lens top 1/3 didymium bottom 2/3 shade 5. They give great protection and the diddy top makes it easy to find the tweezers hiding on the bench. I have goggles with a strap so they don't slide down. I don't notice the weight at all. Mine are pretty old and the frames were a slightly tinted clear which let too much light through. I sandblasted the frames and spray painted them black with Rustoleum specialty plastic paint which made a huge difference. I think the goggle frames currently available are already black or opaque. I tried some Phillips shade 5 after Using Aura lens for 10 years or so and switched back after about an hour. The Phillips tinted everything too green and seemed to give me eyestrain in just an hour where my eyes feel nothing after a full day with Auras. Just my experience, I know many who are happy with Phillips.
BlairArtGlass
07-22-2017, 04:23 AM
I just recently got my Aura shade 5. They replaced some philips shade 5s. I noticed less eye fatigure right away. They are heavier, but my bandana helps hold them in place when I work, and I'm very happy with the upgrade.
dustyg
07-22-2017, 04:44 AM
I've got Auralens split - shade 5 on bottom, didy on top. They're heavy, but keeping the strap snug keeps them comfy.
I'll add, if anybody isn't using a blast shield, you might consider it. I'm not, but I do have a thick piece of plate glass between me and my torch, and it keeps a lot of heat out of my face and reduces the burn in my eyes.
Nomad
07-22-2017, 05:59 AM
I wear ace for borosilicate from wale apparatus. I have economy metal frames. I like them a lot. I like the metal frames because they are durable and comfortable. Sometimes I wish I had the #4 split lense because it is easier to see the metal you are fuming. But I don't really have a problem with ace. I have had them almost 10 years now with no problems.
I wear a sweat band and my hair up off my neck. It helps me not get so sweaty. I do have a beach towel to wipe the sweat off my face between pieces also.
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Nomad
07-22-2017, 06:00 AM
And of course ace is $100 and aurora is $300. That is a major decision maker for me as well.
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Cerberus
07-22-2017, 07:42 AM
Optional(?) head strap and replaceable nose pads, double check the strap option tho.
http://www.auralens.net/en/leader-c2-sports-goggle
The 325 is a$90 premium but super nice if you can afford it, shade 4 on bottom split is what i got.
http://www.auralens.net/en/agw-325-filter
Burnt hands heal, burnt eyes do not, glad to hear that you take yout safety seriously. The simplest advice is to buy the BEST protection that you can AFFORD.
dplaza
07-22-2017, 08:41 AM
anyone have aura fit overs? i would love to get perscription lenses but its a big boost in cost. not to mention my eyes are so bad i wouldn't be surprised if they cant even make mine. my lenses are about as thick as bubbles' from trailer park boys lol.
Kovacs Glass
07-22-2017, 10:07 AM
I used to use Phillips shade 3s but switched over to Aura AGW 300 didymiums a few months back and would never go back to dark glasses. Being able to see your work/bench/surroundings has stopped me from getting eye strain from struggling to see throught the darker glasses.
I have no idea how some of you guyd manage with shade 5s!
dustyg
07-22-2017, 10:59 AM
I used to use Phillips shade 3s but switched over to Aura AGW 300 didymiums a few months back and would never go back to dark glasses. Being able to see your work/bench/surroundings has stopped me from getting eye strain from struggling to see throught the darker glasses.
I have no idea how some of you guyd manage with shade 5s!
I actually got the 1/3 shade 5, and I wish it was more like 1/7. I basically just use the darker portion when I'm really blasting a marble with heat, or to filter out the fume-rod while fuming, or things like that.
Nomad
07-22-2017, 01:21 PM
I can see everything around me with my ace for borosilicate shades. They are a little bit green tinted but that is about it.
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Nomad
07-22-2017, 01:22 PM
Emilio santini told me to use wale lenses. That is what he uses but I think his are free for teaching.
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Nomad
07-22-2017, 01:24 PM
It you see a flare when fuming you know it's good. That and the flame changes color.
I never see spots like with a welding mask when welding steel or anything like that.
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Nomad
07-22-2017, 01:25 PM
I knew someone who didn't wear glasses at all. He doesn't blow glass himself but teaches apprentices with no glasses.
He wears prescription glasses now. I think that is why.
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CheeseNip
07-22-2017, 02:17 PM
I have split 3/5's. 1 third 3, 2 thirds 5. Not sure of brand, but they are glass lenses, and were a $300 dollar pair of glasses when I got the about 8 years ago. Not Phillips, and I'm pretty sure not Aura's either. Very nice part though. No eye fatigue or anything else bad. Well, some fatigue because I need to get a prescription pair, but not due to the lenses providing inadequate coverage. I wouldn't personally want to go less than 5 one the bottom because I do so much fuming, and the 5 is just perfect for me to see what I'm doing and not cause spots or eye strain. 3 on top is perfect for just about everything else, IMO. Almost never feel the need to look over with the 3's. If I do, it's usually because I don't have my prescriptions on, and my vision is blurry. Even with the added weight, I would not go with poly lenses. Just too easy to scratch up. I have used glass since the beginning though, so I am somewhat accustomed to the added weight. Really wish my normal prescriptions were glass. Luckily Aura uses glass lenses, so when I finally cough up the cash for prescription diddys, his will be what I go with, for that reason, among others.
ksglass
08-24-2017, 08:51 AM
I just sold my first pair of safety glasses (Aura split 3/5's) on ebay a few weeks ago. I felt like R2-D2 in those things. A welding helmet would have been more comfortable. I usually wear Oakley sunglasses when I'm outside so I wanted something similar in fit & comfort. I've been fortunate enough to never need eyeglasses so I wasn't used to the weight of the Aura's and my nose would get sore after about 30-45 minutes. I ended up with several pair of Phillips sodium flare, BoroView 3 & BoroView 5's. I love them. Plan to get a pair of their splits for my personal pair soon.
I've only had two guests on my torch. I left the shop while one of them was working and when I came back they had a rod in one hand and the Aura's in their other hand cause they were uncomfortable. Hurting their nose. I called Phillips the next day and their customer service was top-notch and polite. That sealed the deal for me. I've heard the hype about protecting your eyes so I took my purchase seriously but after a lot of research I haven't been able to find anyone with eye damage who wore the right type of safety lenses from any company. No matter if I was getting one pair of glasses or ten pair I'd have ended up with Phillips.
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The o.p. And I talked about glasses in depth when I was visiting Mississippi /his shop.
All my points have been covered in this thread more or less.
All I can add, is I tend to cheat with split lenses, always looking out the top. Strait 5's (or was it 5.5?) did me great. I used the tiny "max" square frames for the auras. Never a weight issue. I have his elite series splits now. I don't mind the weight.
I still can't tell if I think I cheat looking over the 5's (As in looking over the glasses,no filter.)
Either way swim will need new lights in his shop. I have permanent scars from indirect contact > burning flesh for the save. I have issues with that light specifically.
I have been working at nicks, and we discovered my glasses are shade 5 and again I was unaware of what I had on my head because I bought them second hand and they were not advertised correctly. I tried to call you to see what shade yours were on bottom the other day. Trying to get myself in order to buy glass, glasses and a few particular tools..... but i keep pushing further and further into my old materials trying to burn this shit up, get as much money as I can before I buy new, because I will onlyuse the new shit when it gets here and etc and etc and etc. Money is set aside for the baller glasses though, happening in the next few weeks.
thanx for your input man. My main problem with my current glasses is the frames suck nuts, I have to tie them to my head with a bandana and my mustache naturally grows in like hitler..... so basically I look like a nazi samurai while blowing glass.... true story
I think I rock 3/5 splits, on elite frames from mike. (the ones I had when I was visiting.)
menty666
08-25-2017, 04:43 PM
I just got a new pair of full coverage shade 5's. I had accidentally scratched up the lenses in my sunglasses, but I liked the frames, so I sent them in for custom lenses.
They were Julbo glacier glasses
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lost nebula
08-26-2017, 02:25 AM
I knew someone who didn't wear glasses at all.
That reminds me of a teacher I once visited. I figured he knew what he was talking about because his work looked great and then I saw he used didymium glasses for boro and had no ventilation at all :eek . I wanted to learn from him but he was old school and refused to work on anything that didn't have a point handle and made me apply dots with my right hand (i'm a lefty).
Regarding the shades he insisted the wale S and SB series glasses he sold his students had adequate protection for boro, even though my eyes hurt after using them.
Mike Aurelius gave me the best info on glasses I have had so far, look at the transmission charts. His transmission charts clearly show where in the spectrum the harmful light is. For anyone considering wale glasses here are the transmission charts to compare with Aura's.
https://www.waleapparatus.com/uploads/272f9f9d92005402eb0a0408b1cb6786.pdf
I've gone through just about every other option besides Aura trying to find something decent. I tried Phillips shade 5's, wale B3's and SB's, old school didy's with a clip on #5 welding shade and nothing works as well as I would like. The Phillips had way too much sodium flare and the wale glasses mess with the color you see so I often got colors mixed up. The didy's with a clip on shade worked alright but they were pretty bulky.
I have had a certain opinion about Auralens because of things that went down a couple years ago and some of his more vocal opinions on the forums.
As I start to blow glass more full time though, I will soon be switching to Auralens as it's clear he has the superior product when you look at the charts.
Nomad
08-26-2017, 03:37 AM
I still use points bro unless it is a really heavy piece. I also only spin with my left hand and tool with my right. I learned that from Cesare.
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lost nebula
08-26-2017, 05:25 AM
I still use points bro unless it is a really heavy piece. I also only spin with my left hand and tool with my right. I learned that from Cesare.
That does not surprise me, it's classic italian training which a lot of old blowers stick to. You can learn a lot from old blowers but they sometimes lack the openness to learn new techniques. I remember showing this teacher IO frit and blew his mind, he couldn't imagine why someone would put frit on the inside. I had a nice reversal pendant on and he thought the reversal pattern was painted on, he'd never seen anything like it.
I like learning new things from everyone but I don't want to be one of those blowers who only accepts one way of doing things. I don't really care that a certain way is traditional and done that way for hundreds of years, all I care about is how good is your end product. What I appreciate about glass is the american style and technique revolution that pipe culture has brought about. It breathed new life into glass, and without people doing things differently that never would have happened.
duppy
09-09-2017, 01:52 PM
I used to use Phillips shade 3s but switched over to Aura AGW 300 didymiums a few months back and would never go back to dark glasses. Being able to see your work/bench/surroundings has stopped me from getting eye strain from struggling to see throught the darker glasses.
Do you use them for color work too?
snoopdog6502
09-09-2017, 05:31 PM
I use Philips clip ons , $90 from glasscraft.
I have some aura clip on's. The lenses are great, the clip on frames suck soooo bad.
Iv worn them less then 5 minutes and there is no way in hell can I use them.
Kovacs Glass
09-09-2017, 10:51 PM
Do you use them for color work too?
Yes, although i switch to my shade 3s if I'm working a lot of black or silver striking colours. For everything else, my Aura AGW 300s are amazing.
Aretz
04-28-2018, 09:37 PM
Will any reputable supplier use safety glass frames you provide? Like, mailing them in to have lenses replaced?
Everyone has different preferences due to prescriptions, different face/Head shape, and comfort, so I’m wary of just buying something someone recommends. I know I like my safety frames I use at work. I’m on my third pair! I gave away a pair to a coworker who needed frames (employer buys us new frames every couple of years but he’s a temp and they won’t buy them for temps) and I have a spare set I’d love to use.
Also, I see a lot of folks have split lenses but only one site seems to offer them. Do you have to call and request them?
(Also I can’t figure out Auralens site, confusing for a newbie).
Can't help but wonder why the fuk u wouldn't just call the company or company's u r wondering about....for fuks sake
About as bad as my wife....
Claims she seen a giant white cat walking through our field the other morning. She decided not to tell me until around noon that day. While I could have been outside playing with our child and possibly getting attacked.
I tried to tell her the importance of telling me in that situation.... She failed to see it.
Then when I told her she needed to contact someone and tell them, she fukkin emailed some lady about it, whom of which has nothing to do with wild animals.
She just doesn't get it.
Seems a lot like thus situation and our current economic crisis.
Just stupidity
hashmasta-kut
04-29-2018, 11:50 AM
I totally disagree. My lady has seen a cougar a handful of times in a nearby field on her walk. We don't tell people, we want him to just have his trip.
Aretz
04-29-2018, 12:47 PM
Can't help but wonder why the fuk u wouldn't just call the company or company's u r wondering about....for fuks sake
About as bad as my wife....
Claims she seen a giant white cat walking through our field the other morning. She decided not to tell me until around noon that day. While I could have been outside playing with our child and possibly getting attacked.
I tried to tell her the importance of telling me in that situation.... She failed to see it.
Then when I told her she needed to contact someone and tell them, she fukkin emailed some lady about it, whom of which has nothing to do with wild animals.
She just doesn't get it.
Seems a lot like thus situation and our current economic crisis.
Just stupidity
WOW.
My first post here and you’re assholes about a simple question.
I asked because a lot of people here seem to have shades that aren’t offered on a website (if a supplier was willing to use my own frames or do split shades, I would have thought they’d say so on their website).
I’ve been here for a couple weeks, reading up on info and safety (finally going to set up a studio) and simply haven’t bothered to post yet because I’ve found most of the information I need in stickied threads. Heaven forbid I ask ONE QUESTION about an important piece of safety equipment I want to get right the first time around, so I don’t have extra pairs sitting around I paid for but won’t use because they’re uncomfortable, like many of you seem to have.
I was recommended to come here by someone on Twitter. She said I could find a plethora of information to help me get started and that people were helpful.
She was right about one of those, but not the other.
Subduction
04-29-2018, 12:55 PM
Aretz, you can ask Mike about this: http://www.auralens.net/en/filter-lens-trade-in-program
Misfitman
04-29-2018, 01:14 PM
One person said one shitty thing, take the info that 15 other people gave you and move on
It wasn't even really that shiity of me...
Don't b callin my friends assholes either brah. ..
And if u see a white tiger call 911 or the game warden or someshit, don't fukkin email someone who has nothing to do with wild kitty's.
Plus it was albino
:)
dustyg
04-29-2018, 01:51 PM
WOW.
My first post here and you’re assholes about a simple question.
I asked because a lot of people here seem to have shades that aren’t offered on a website (if a supplier was willing to use my own frames or do split shades, I would have thought they’d say so on their website).
I’ve been here for a couple weeks, reading up on info and safety (finally going to set up a studio) and simply haven’t bothered to post yet because I’ve found most of the information I need in stickied threads. Heaven forbid I ask ONE QUESTION about an important piece of safety equipment I want to get right the first time around, so I don’t have extra pairs sitting around I paid for but won’t use because they’re uncomfortable, like many of you seem to have.
I was recommended to come here by someone on Twitter. She said I could find a plethora of information to help me get started and that people were helpful.
She was right about one of those, but not the other.
Lol, you're flipping out over a single guy that you don't even know who's calling his wife stupid in the same post he's insulting you. She probably has a reason to get upset, but you don't. You're gonna need thicker skin to enjoy this place.
I got my glasses from AuraLens. You can have them make glasses to fit your frames, usually, but be aware that just because they're comfortable now doesn't mean they'll still be comfortable with the way, way heavier lenses made of actual glass in them. I use a strap that keeps the weight of them from sitting too much on my ears/nose (came with the frames I bought from them), otherwise they're painfully uncomfortable after about 10 minutes.
Gosh dang it.
Her not calling the cops is a stupid thing, but no she isn't stupid, just did something stupid...
It would be kinda like asking everyone but the makers a question about something the makers make.
hashmasta-kut
04-29-2018, 03:20 PM
I put animals ahead of people. There are way too many of us, and we dominate everything to extinction.
Now i'm not saying I eat people, but animal rights i typically let trump human rights. Except ants. They need to stay out.
Well yeah, if there was a tiger I'd probably let it eat u or anyone else.
But I'm not going to sacrifice myself or my wife & kid. But yeah everyone else can basically fuk off :)
Dude at the bar last night was talking about ridding his yard of moles by poisoning the worms and other things they supposedly eat...I have no clue what they eat.
I held my tongue but couldn't help but think about the poison he was adding to the ground and potentially (eventually)the water table.
All so his grass will look nice...
What a dumbass
Moles do usually follow grubs and food.
Its berry common to treat the food not the
Bunmmer that its a common thing to treat. (unfortunately )
My phone has a mind of its own. That was close to what i texted.
Time to retire this heap.
Sparko
04-30-2018, 08:26 AM
Im surprised she ever even said anything. I figure by now she woulda said she saw a pot plant out there instead.
Im surprised she ever even said anything. I figure by now she woulda said she saw a pot plant out there instead.
My father in-law asked if she had an insurance policy on me....:barney::wife:
There is a sheriff 2 houses over, he basically keeps horses on my land, so no pot plants...:(
Sparko
04-30-2018, 12:24 PM
poor horses, bet they sleep with one eye open.
on the topic, I just switched to auras shade 5s from some rather cheap nectar shade 5s that they used to and probably still do sell on ebay, and for the first time ever lamp working, my eyes hurt like fuck, so I am gonna switch back and see if there is a difference tomorrow, been a week or so on the auras.
lost nebula
04-30-2018, 10:52 PM
I finally got some shade 5 aura's and they have been much better than my previous lenses by all other manufacturers. I do have to use the strap to hold them on but that's likely because mine are fitovers. I prefer the full coverage and went with shade 5's so I had to add another light in my shop to make up for it. My experience with Mike was very good, his service was above average and I used one of his many generous coupons.
I spent probably $600 on other brands before I finally went with aura's and I should have gotten these from the start.
hashmasta-kut
05-04-2018, 08:04 AM
I've got nice Philips and nice auras. Both are good. I'd say the aura lens is a bit more true color/ clearer, not much.
my eyes are getting insanely tired and what not from the aurs, the frames are very comfortable though. I would stick with my nectars but I have to tie them to my head
Subduction
05-05-2018, 10:35 AM
Swim, are the Aura lenses installed true in the frames? A recent order of mine with Z87 frames needed a lens realigned.
Side note: I wish Mike listed the frame widths. I have a big head but not a huge head.
No, the frames are a really nice set of nectars, its escaping me who I bought them from on this forum. But yeah man, they strain my eyes, and I cant see a reason this is happening. Honestly waiting for mike to chime in, I know he reads these posts, and usually has an answer even if its presented a little to aggressively. I am super bummed because I have been looking forward to upgrading my eyewear for a long time, its our most essential tool as a lampworker
BlairArtGlass
05-05-2018, 03:18 PM
You got them from me Swim, and I'm really sorry to hear your not having success with them. I had really liked them when I got them vs my previous glasses, but the shade 5 was just to dark for me. The shade 3 auras I got have been exactly what I needed.
turdhole
05-08-2018, 10:50 AM
any other opinions on the Wale B3's? i saw someone said they mess up the colors but as far as protection goes, they okay?
Nomad
05-08-2018, 10:57 AM
Wale has nice glasses.
istandalone24/7
05-08-2018, 01:16 PM
Walewear glasses are the reason that i now require reading glasses. never before have i needed them. once i started working with glass and using wale wear shade 5's exclusively, my vision went to shit. and i previously had better than 20/20.
i may b wrong but i'm about 99% sure that welding glasses of most any brand give about the same* "protection"*
the only other thing the glass working eye protection offers is sodium flare reduction, and sodium flare isn't harmful. So yeah... im no expert but ive seen it posted on here in several places.
Plus im sure if im wrong some other *know it all* will tell me... :)
hence why one company i think basically uses layered protection. Seems like they are welding glasses with sodium flare protection laminated or glued on.:bangHead:
Mike_Aurelius
05-08-2018, 05:37 PM
No, the frames are a really nice set of nectars, its escaping me who I bought them from on this forum. But yeah man, they strain my eyes, and I cant see a reason this is happening. Honestly waiting for mike to chime in, I know he reads these posts, and usually has an answer even if its presented a little to aggressively. I am super bummed because I have been looking forward to upgrading my eyewear for a long time, its our most essential tool as a lampworker
Not all Nectar frames have my lenses in them. We didn't start making lenses for Nectar until mid-2016. Prior to that, it was Phillips, and from what I've been told, P was putting "experimental" (their words, not mine) filters into the frame. There was a big hooraw about that and Nectar switched to us.
Sorry I didn't see this earlier, been busting out lenses for the past week, haven't spent much time online.
Mike_Aurelius
05-08-2018, 05:39 PM
Will any reputable supplier use safety glass frames you provide? Like, mailing them in to have lenses replaced?
Everyone has different preferences due to prescriptions, different face/Head shape, and comfort, so I’m wary of just buying something someone recommends. I know I like my safety frames I use at work. I’m on my third pair! I gave away a pair to a coworker who needed frames (employer buys us new frames every couple of years but he’s a temp and they won’t buy them for temps) and I have a spare set I’d love to use.
Also, I see a lot of folks have split lenses but only one site seems to offer them. Do you have to call and request them?
(Also I can’t figure out Auralens site, confusing for a newbie).
Yes, provided that the frames aren't too large (max diagonal measurement is 68 mm), that the frames are full rim (no drill mounts and no string mounts).
http://www.auralens.net/en/how-to-use-this-website
Mike_Aurelius
05-08-2018, 05:43 PM
Swim, are the Aura lenses installed true in the frames? A recent order of mine with Z87 frames needed a lens realigned.
Side note: I wish Mike listed the frame widths. I have a big head but not a huge head.
We do, actually. Every frame on our website has the measurements listed. The measurements are shown in millimeters (the standard optical measurement) in lens opening width (A Box), height (B
Box), longest diagonal dimension (ED), and width of the bridge (DBL). To find total width, multiply A box times 2, add the DBL, and roughly 6-8 mm for the hinge mounts.
Mike_Aurelius
05-08-2018, 05:47 PM
i may b wrong but i'm about 99% sure that welding glasses of most any brand give about the same* "protection"*
the only other thing the glass working eye protection offers is sodium flare reduction, and sodium flare isn't harmful. So yeah... im no expert but ive seen it posted on here in several places.
Plus im sure if im wrong some other *know it all* will tell me... :)
hence why one company i think basically uses layered protection. Seems like they are welding glasses with sodium flare protection laminated or glued on.:bangHead:
Once you can define "protection" that fits everyone single person, you can make that kind of statement.
Welding filter is the least expensive, easiest to process, and most widely available product to cut bright visible light and IR (infrared - heat energy). But it's not the only way.
Bang your head all you want, we designed it and received our patent on the design in 2000. It works and it works very well, far better than dyed plastic lenses.
menty666
05-08-2018, 05:53 PM
FWIW, I accidentally scratched to hell a pair of Julbo glacier glasses I loved and sent them to Mike to have to lampworking lenses fit in, and he did a great job. They're like poindexter thick (my old goggles hid it better) so they're a little heavy, but not uncomfortably so; I'll probably wind up finding a strap at some point.
I also realized I'd sworn to forever boycott him in another thread, guess that ended LOL
Anyway, they're sweet glasses,worth the money to keep my eyes working right.
Mike_Aurelius
05-08-2018, 05:53 PM
One caution I will make: be wary of plastic lenses. They don't stand up to the abrasive atmosphere of a glass studio. While they may be lightweight, they don't necessarily filter out everything that needs to be filtered. Most of what's being sold are designed as laser filters, not lampworking filters. They do not provide full spectrum light transmission like welding filter based lenses do, therefore, color shifting the apparent colors.
And especially important for folks who work solely in soft glass is that the commonly sold "blue plastic lens" is not actually a didymium-based filter. It's nothing more than plastic lenses that have been dyed to mimic the color of didymium filters. Ask for a visible light transmission chart for the soft glass filters -- you won't find it, and it's highly unlikely they even have one -- because they'd rather sell you cheap plastic instead of providing true didymium filters.
True didymium filters are only available in glass. The rare earths neodymium and praesodymium cannot be introduced into plastic lenses -- they have to be melted at high temperatures into a glass base (just like the minerals used to make colored glass). There is absolutely no plastic lens that has didymium in it. It is impossible to make.
Once you can define "protection" that fits everyone single person, you can make that kind of statement.
Welding filter is the least expensive, easiest to process, and most widely available product to cut bright visible light and IR (infrared - heat energy). But it's not the only way.
Bang your head all you want, we designed it and received our patent on the design in 2000. It works and it works very well, far better than dyed plastic lenses.
lol
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