us33

[Swim]

has anyone used this stuff much yet? I am thinking of making a large order of this or schott and I am trying to decide my devil since I am a pyrex guy atm..... come on mutherfuckers come on, come on mutherfuckers come on.... listening to biggie:bouncy:

[BORO]

Nope. Don't do the us33

[Sparko]

Ive been using it almost exclusively besides some Simax for fuming. I wish i had more experience with other types of glass to give you a comparison. My current opinion is it "doesnt fume as well" as Simax. When i compare the prices to the deal i get on Simax with abr it makes more sense for me to just get Simax. A few more bucks and it fumes well. I assume this also means it works better for fumey colors applied to it? Its definitely a different color glow when it heats up too.

[snoopdog6502]

I use the solid rods for marbles but they dont have any larger then 15mm that I have found.

I have some 32mmx4mm tube that's pretty nice to use.

Im not fussy, glass is glass.

[Swim]

tell me why though

[snoopdog6502]

tell me why though

Um I don't blame my materials, its all on me when i poke that shit in the fire.

[lost nebula]

Im not fussy, glass is glass.

I would have said that in the past too.

But recently I got a pile of unwanted "schott" from another blower and I've never seen clear glass so bad. Even china clear is a sweet dream compared to this stuff, it is so shocky it's unbelievable. I'm not even sure how it was sold, even preheating in the kiln it's almost unusable, if it doesn't crack in the flame it grenades later in the kiln. The only thing I can think of is running every piece of it through an annealing cycle before even trying, the polariscope shows wicked stress in a stock tube before it's worked.

Color companies occasionally have full or parts of batches that are super shocky and problematic, obviously this can happen with clear too but I'm sure much less often.

[Jackass Glass]

i bought a case of 44 from them once. several tubes have a line of air bubbles that runs the length of the tube and ruins any piece.

they wouldnt do anything about it. one and done for me. i buy schott for blow tube and punty and simax for everything else.

[Swim]

Um I don't blame my materials, its all on me when i poke that shit in the fire.

I was talking to boro , your a smartass, Idont value your opinion, but your free to have it

[Swim]

just asking because I was thinking of casing up on this as I am about to buy a shit load of r clear, and I hate schott, it looks like dick fumed for me because I am a fast fumer, I toss it on and get to work, I know some people fume well on schott, but I have not figured it out, and dont have the time too when every other clear on the market fumed fine. If the shit has stoned or bubbles , or is shocky as fuck... shockier or even like chinese I dont want it, also I dont want it if it boils like chinese, I work hot as fuck, my work is about hot hot heat, so the last thing I want is clear that boils easy when I beat it up... THis sucks to hear because I know Jack would not sell me a line of bullshit, but I wanna hear more. I am gonna buy a sample pack if I can get a discount. thanx for your input guys.

[Jackass Glass]

ill send you a tube of the 44x4. ive got most of the case left for sure. if you want to just pay the shipping / maybe send me one of those fumey banger hangers you make for my collection?

either way i dont care. let me know the smallest length thats ok for you. half tube? 1/4? ill happily break it down and send it to ya bud.

[Sparko]

Shockey and boily are not qualities i would attribute to US33, and ive never noticed bubbles in it but seams yes. I think im using this terminology right. Its a line that you can feel run the length of the tube sometimes. When you spin it in your hand with a shirt around it you can feel it. I learned alot on this glass and have tried chinese before, stoped after 2 tubes of 25mm and grabbed some better glass. It handles just like simax other then for fume from what ive seen.

[Misfitman]

I havent tried it, and have wanted too. if your doing a big order it wouldnt make too much sense (to me) to go all in on something you havent tried yourself. If it was me, id get one tube of it and try it out. than you know exactly what you like.

[Misfitman]

yo jackass ill trade you for somethin, i wanna try that stuff out.

[Foxy999]

IMO it's comparable to the pyrex I've used. The 38x4 pyrex I have isn't perfect, it all seems a little off, like not perfectly round. Not uneven chords, but just like slumped haha.

FWIW, el hefe did a bunch of fuming pieces with us33. Idk if he still uses it, but he used to do a bunch of sleeving a stuff with it.

[PyroChixRock]

I've tried them all, prefer simax for marbles, I will use schott for prodo. I use US33 for memorial art, as it's softer and accepts the ash better. Everything has its place.

[Swim]

I want it jack, honestly, I will buy the case if the price s right, pm me on instagram

[BORO]

You swim, have countless hours with fume and feedback from it on sba. You will have to start over on the us33. Its as similar to sba, but even harder to get consistent results.

Us33 is also way wonky when you chuck up a long tube. The larger sizes the more out of tolerance. Again, I'm not saying your ever going to find a strait full length of sba. You know what that stuff can look like, sometimes it wont clear the bore when its a full length tube.

The question should be " do I do enough fume to step up to a few cases of simax from Fredric and dimmock in new jersey?

Then stick with brand "x" for the rest of your production.


Also, this thread...


http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?62295-EU-a-review-US33-a-debacle&highlight=us33+debacle

[snoopdog6502]

I was talking to boro , your a smartass, Idont value your opinion, but your free to have it

Well feel free to whine then. I don't value your opinion either. You dont even try some glasses for yourself.

[D. dino i ninjah]

I would stongly discourage paying money for us33 glass .. The prices on US pyrex from wale .. are much less than mountain look there .. I had a case of 44 I used .. like 6 tubes of it and hated .. it .. first barry tried to just publicly belittle me .. then they had artists they sponsor try to attck me on FB .. then the guys kid calls my actual house .. on some " hey I herd you were talking shit about our glass " then trys to give me free glass to stop telling people it sucks .. ( It sucks ) ..

so fast forward to last month . .Im clearing out all my old stock of glass .. Im down to us33 and blue simax .. and old simax and china .. I desciced to use the us33 tubes so I don't have to look in the box any more .. I can now say 100% that the stuff they post pictures of that looks good .. is useing simax (old stock) to trap .. us33 is more reducing ( quicker to turn silver white ) than any other brand of clear. . IT is also super super soft . .like too soft . .think other clears move like cobalt iso ..

there are two things I think its good for .. 1 wine glass tops .. Idk why . .but i can push that shit paper thin . ( super soft ? ) the other thing its ok at .. is sleaving .. its super fucking easy to sleave with ..(soft AF ) .... the tubes are not that round .. it moves funny .. IF you have a bunch of back stock of old simax rod .. and you want to save some money on tubing .. simax to trap . on the surface looks ok .. but iso . .its all meh .. like mega meh . . the ammount of time you will waste alone trying to "make it work" .. will cost you more than you save .. don't do it . .

I literally .. no lie . . had a store owner ask me to not bring him any more glass made on it . . he told me that there are some things the Germans just do better .. im going to agree .. but Im still on the fence my self . .about where I will order from .. next or what i will order .. Sci tech in califorinia . .has the best prices on czech pyrex .. (simax) and I set up an account with them . but the the shipping to the east coast eats all the savings .. I will likely order a case of the american stuff . .and try it .. but I don't think its going to fume much better tbh . .

[Jackass Glass]

ill hang onto the case... i should burn thru it messing things up frankly. but happy to send you the one tube for your trials bud.

is a 2-2.5 foot section too long or too short? i forget if they are 5 foot or 4 foot tubes. figure one cut in the middle and ill ship it to ya. let me know if it needs to be broken down more or less tho.

[Jimi The Don]

If you read the thread that boro linked, you'll see how I feel about it. Simax or schott are what I go with typically.
Customer service means a lot to me, and making clear tubes as I do, I need clean and consistent glass, which in my case at least, us33 was not.

[hammer]

I was talking to boro , your a smartass, Idont value your opinion, but your free to have it

Skater Boy,
You don’t have enough pelts on the wall to be such a dick.


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[Sparko]

Every body is so negative anymore. And everyone acts exactly the same because instagram creates #followers who have a bunch of imaginary fakebook friends. Social media is social conformity. Be yourselves everybody.

[Swim]

Well feel free to whine then. I don't value your opinion either. You dont even try some glasses for yourself.

yeah I do buddy, thats what this thread is about. But go ahead have the last word.... you get the last word in an internet argument, and I got some free us33 from friends in this thread, I got good advice I was seeking from friends in this thread, and I made a valuable decision and bought 1100$ worth of pyrex at a heavy discount all because I started this thread. Your the only one that had a wack ass bullshit comment that added nothing to the discussion and insulted me as a professional lamp worker.... and your not even familiar with me. I am no ones enemy, but I am a great friend, thats why I can be a dic sometimes and still get plenty of love. Thanx my homies for putting up with me, I hope its worth it. ONE LOVE BABY

[Swim]

I dont need pelts, just a mouth or a keyboard. I am not about pelts, I am about melting glass and stacking cash. Take it easy couch surfer or whatever you are. Glad you pinned me as a skater though. THUG LIFE... I am headed to the skate park....

[Swim]

thanx for the input guys, I went with pyrex cuz I need glass now, getting that shit delivered thursday and getting busy with these fixed percs in the prodo bangers. should be a good week end.

[snoopdog6502]

I bought the glass and made good use of it.

Get over yourself Swim. Keep on with your arrogance and combative turd slinging . I dont care. I dont know why you singles out me to be a prick to but thats OK, I can take it. Be a snot..

I dont need free anything but I do know many of the glass people would give you anything if they felt you needed it and were humble.

The first glass I worked was Pyrex, then some Simax, then SBA then US33. All of them do the job.

[Swim]

ok dude. you win. I am not even a glass blower, and all clear is the same, I can tell you know your shit and I was dumb for considering what product to purchase. thanx for setting me straight, I might survive in the real world now, but not as a lamp worker, you have convinced me.

[H1JACK3R]

ok dude. you win. I am not even a glass blower, and all clear is the same, I can tell you know your shit and I was dumb for considering what product to purchase. thanx for setting me straight, I might survive in the real world now, but not as a lamp worker, you have convinced me.

I know not everyone agrees, but there is money to be made in pipes without being famous. I know you can do it Swim! Don't let your dreams fade, stay grinding brother!

[Swim]

you already know bro, I am taking today and tomorrow off, but anyone that follows me is aware I live behind my torch. As far as making a living.... I make a poor mans living because I let my personal life get in the way and I am ver disorganized, but I kind of level shit out with hard work and a never say die attitude. 75% of my money comes from glass. I have minimum 2000$ months, but plenty of 4000$+ months because I am reliable and valuable to my store and distributor. Nothing on a forum will keep me down, unless its a seven year old thread and I cant find my damn answer. I am not trying to get hate, also I dont care. Crazy shit how many real ass friends I have on this thread alone. Its funny when someone busts your balls over a comment you made to a real life homie that you have broken laws with and melted glass with, I mean, I have cried real tears in front of a few of you guys. I love the melting pot for many reasons. Love to all, even my haters. PEACE

[Swim]

I get my nomad badge after this thread unless I get a skuzz badge, and where the muthafuckin Blueberry Allenhead badge while we are at it. I need more things to make me look like a real ASS BLOWER online. lol I am done fuckering... good night... unless someone starts talking to me

[Nomad]

What is considered the poverty line in the United States?
The Census Bureau uses a set of money income thresholds that vary by family size and composition to determine who is in poverty. The 2010 figure for a family of 4 with no children under 18 years of age is $22,541, while the figure for a family of 4 with 2 children under 18 is $22,162.

[Nomad]

I mean it's like weh we just made it out of poverty!
You would think that $20 items is cheap but it's still almost poverty.

[Nomad]

The house I live in, which is the cheapest house in town, is $1750 month. I had to do part of the renovations on it myself as well. This does not include my studio. My studio is on my parents land and I built it. So I own it. For now.

[snoopdog6502]

I get my nomad badge after this thread unless I get a skuzz badge, and where the muthafuckin Blueberry Allenhead badge while we are at it. I need more things to make me look like a real ASS BLOWER online. lol I am done fuckering... good night... unless someone starts talking to me


Good god can you speak English, are you retarded ? you must be brain damaged.

dude go to first grade ...get a brain.

[Nomad]

you already know bro, I am taking today and tomorrow off, but anyone that follows me is aware I live behind my torch. As far as making a living.... I make a poor mans living because I let my personal life get in the way and I am ver disorganized, but I kind of level shit out with hard work and a never say die attitude. 75% of my money comes from glass. I have minimum 2000$ months, but plenty of 4000$+ months because I am reliable and valuable to my store and distributor. Nothing on a forum will keep me down, unless its a seven year old thread and I cant find my damn answer. I am not trying to get hate, also I dont care. Crazy shit how many real ass friends I have on this thread alone. Its funny when someone busts your balls over a comment you made to a real life homie that you have broken laws with and melted glass with, I mean, I have cried real tears in front of a few of you guys. I love the melting pot for many reasons. Love to all, even my haters. PEACE

I am just trying to say that you are argueing about things that are not that much money in the bigger picture.

[Nomad]

YEah my production is like $12 every 20-30 minutes. I need to get to work right now and off the internet. I have written orders for over 100 and a prepaid order for 25 more. I got to make them cheap water pipes that people want to buy.

[Mute]

Think about it like a real job.

Once you go to blow glass, you are clocked in basically. Even if you aren't blowing glass, you are technically at work.

Do you get paid lunches, paid for driving time, getting gas, etc shit adds up.

Don't forget overhead, playing on the internet, aka marketing. Smoke breaks, paid for?

You pay taxes, 401k? Health insurance? Breakage?

It doesn't count if you're actually on someone elses account...living at home, not paying your bills, etc. And the most important part. Don't try and compete with the prices these people sell their glass for.

Is your kiln on, that's working IMO...
For those who actually anneal their glass(ramp/soak) it takes hours. In my mind you are on the clock, or at the very least, on call.

Warming up the shop, walking to open the exhaust window,

[Nomad]

I wanted $25 each but most I can get is $13.50 each for a smaller size with no attachments.


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[Nomad]

Mine are really fast. I only have to put them in the kiln once too. So I don’t have to take time for bridgework and stuff.


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[Nomad]

No milli marbles makes them even less for me to make too.
I think I only need $50-$100 month in glass.


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[Nomad]

I mean to be clear that if you pay for a small studio in cash then have oxygen generators and stuff. You don’t have many bills. So it’s all take home.


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[Mute]

A shed in the back of your parents house is hardly paying for a studio in cash
..

[Nomad]

A lamp working studio is normally in a shed.


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[Nomad]

I might build another one at another location I pay rent at to live at but not until the property is sold to my girlfriend.


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[Nomad]

Rent, car payment, phone, credit cards is bills? I’m doing that.

I’m really busy. I have to make more glass.


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[Mute]

Sure, but the land isn't free. You pay property tax? Power? Rent?

Could you get that same deal from someone not related to you?

Just trying to set a realistic scenario for potential lamp workers.

[Nomad]

Yes anyone can build a shed.


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[Nomad]

Yes electric and propane


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[Nomad]

I used to rent a studio for $400 month. It was really big. I could but I pay my child support and get to go out more now.


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[Mute]

I'm really not trying to dis you by any means. You're paying your way and that's good.

Like I mentioned, I think it is important for those looking at this craft as a profession. With increasing wages and import prices, as well as hobbyist lowballing themselves, drives prices into the ground.

Its an expensive hobby, if I'm being honest.

[Nomad]

Takes a lot of help to start your own business too. I mean my mom has had to lend me money for glass once in a while. But lamp working is the lowest overhead of any glassblowing.


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[Nomad]

Capitalist are traditionally related to royalty who funded the factories.


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[Mute]

Takes a lot of help to start your own business too. I mean my mom has had to lend me money for glass once in a while. But lamp working is the lowest overhead of any glassblowing.


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You're right. It does take a lot to open a business.

So after you invest in a glass blowing business, how much would one expect to make?

My point is you can't look at this as you would a typical job or career. To make a long story short.

Lamp working is cheaper than a hot shop.

[Nomad]

Not sure I can answer that.


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[Nomad]

I mean one day I want to expand and have more glassblowers than just myself.


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[Nomad]

Most I can make this minute is $13.50 every 20-30 minutes but sometimes I can make $60 in 15 minutes. Depending on what item I sell.


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[Nomad]

This is new because I sold out at trade shows on new designs.


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[hashmasta-kut]

pretty sure its time for this again:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR_lc8wqyaw

[Misfitman]

holy shit that went far away from a thread about clear glass

[Jackass Glass]

Its an expensive hobby, if I'm being honest.

THIS ALL DAY... too many people think they are going to make it as a lampworker. its just not going to happen. and if it does its going to be a struggle for the rest of their lives. not that it isnt a worthwhile pursuit by any means. its awesome. but its expensive and doesnt pay well. the average guy getting into would do much better working somewhere else for minimum wage and blowing glass on the side. at least the job would be a steady pay.


also... lets try and keep it civil. Swim is a good dude and a solid lampworker going thru a rough patch. I dont know you snoop personally but im sure the same goes for you. ive only run into one or two people on here that were actual a holes.... maybe myself included in that one!

anyway back to the clear. Swim - i got that tube ready for you- picked the best one in the box as fas as i could tell. will ship it today or tomorrow. let me know what you think for funsies.

[Nomad]

Maybe true? I’m technically disabled so what other job am I going to get? Fuck it I will take the bubblers and spin station sales today. It’s not rocket science.


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[Jackass Glass]

Maybe true? I’m technically disabled so what other job am I going to get? Fuck it I will take the bubblers and spin station sales today. It’s not rocket science.


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for sure nomad. im talking only in generalities... everyone's specifics changes the game of course. for example - imagine if you had a rich wife.... then what i wrote might not matter.

Im fortunate enough to have a good office job that pays the bills, however it keeps me from melting most days of the week. its a trade off for sure but i know ill never be good enough to sell crazy headies like banjo and i dont want to grind as hard as you ( and many others here ) do churning pipes and so forth. so here i am. making what i can... when i can... between work and work travel.

[Mute]

I see issues like this clear crap. In an industry that is already full of hiccups, it is the last thing one needs to deal with. Bs fly by night company's, name dropping to get any kind of acknowledgement (company names not artists...) Its all bs.

Hard working prodo makers are similar to construction workers IMO. Extremely under paid.

So to all those that do it, my hats off to you.

[Nomad]

Yes underpaid for sure. In California we were considered day laborer. Which means less.
In Mexico glassblowing is the highest paid profession.


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[PyroChixRock]

We have done this to ourselves in this industry. People keep lowering prices because they need money, or have no idea what it's worth, or grow weed and don't care so just sell it for whatever, or don't care cause they live at moms and don't have to worry as much as most of us. Not talking about you, Nomad, I know you pay your way.

So many of us have no business sense and have in turn ruined the market. People will pay what you tell them it's worth, and too many of us are out there telling them it's not worth what it is. Essentially setting themselves up to pay to give glass away. Makes it really hard for the rest of us to make a living.

I see spoons I used to get $75 wholesale for and sell as many as I could make, going for $20 now, to the public.

And that's another problem. People go and sell things for say, $50 to a dist, then turn around and offer it on IG for the same price. NO business sense at all.

[Mute]

Well put

[Jackass Glass]

one problem is that artists dont communicate well. Im sure i sell my stuff too low but every time i have ever asked someone (who sells a lot of whatever i was making) how much i should charge. they usually don't reply or tell me to beat it.

so i undercut them - not on purpose and i cant actually say for sure, but im sure that i dont charge enough.

i havent been in the game long but i do remember when bubble caps came out... they were 100 on IG and down to 25 in a matter of days.

[Nomad]

Not ruined but it has become more competitive. I have more orders than ever. But prices are low yes.


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[Nomad]

If I could get a robot to make my stuff out in the shed I would.
Technology and automation cuts costs making you more competitive. Look at Walmart. The waltons are the richest family in the world.


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[MUPH]

In Mexico glassblowing is the highest paid profession


The waltons are the richest family in the world.

It's cool to have your opinions and such, but don't keep spreading false information. That is 100% incorrect.

[Nomad]

Travel channel dude google it on YouTube


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[Nomad]

Some cultures make more money from products than services. America is becoming more of a service industry that rely on China , etc ... for products.


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[Jimi The Don]

Yar, what Misha said.
I've had "friends" directly cut my throats cuz they grow and have no business sense, then
Liquidate their glass stock for pennies on the dollar.
The lack of business management skills in this industry is a huge issue, that perpetuates
This particular problem, then when some realize that they aren't making any money, they sell off all their gear and get out, the damage of their shortsightedness having already affected those around them.

[BORO]

Technically disable?


Nomad- Maybe true? I’m technically disabled so what other job am I going to get? Fuck it I will take the bubblers and spin station sales today. It’s not rocket science.

So new York cuts you a disability check each month ?! But you actually work every day.

My NY taxes at work, lovely.

[Swim]

Good god can you speak English, are you retarded ? you must be brain damaged.

dude go to first grade ...get a brain.

I am actually have a few learning disabilities, feel free to pick on me if your the type. My IQ is very high although I have trouble with grammar and spelling and I am ok with who I am. How are you?

[Swim]

nomad, I did not intend to argue about money. Its not as much moeny as I would like to make, but you have to realize I live in southern mississippi. I have a three bedroom house and three acres with two buildings for 825$ a month, I am doing pretty good with these wages considering I cant get more than 14$ an hour around here putting in floors or baling hay, working on the chicken farm and etc. I beat the labor jobs lamping around here by a long shot. So currently I would have a hard time making it somewhere that had an economy if all I wanted to do was melt glass, but it makes alot of sense to do it here, when I can easily sell all of my glass regionally, but also have national distrobution. 4000$ a month is actually a perfect number for me to be happy and do whatever the fuck I want in my time off. And for all the guys that I am pissing off..... I probably wont stop, so keep talking to me, and I will keep fucking with you. I think I have learned the rules here and I can probably pull off fucking with you without even getting an infraction. I am not going bcak to work til tomorrow afternoon, so feel free to ask me to troll you more.

[Swim]

I agree, that is not paying for a glass studio nomad, and the building part is not the problem. You have set up enough studios to know you have a bunch of family favors in place and corners cut, and you have been around long enough to (sort of) know what you can get away with. its not the ideal way for a beginner to go

[Nomad]

Yeah well my girlfriend and I are having problems. So I pay rent for a room and my shed studio right now.
I was invited back to Woodstock. I can get a small studio and cottage with $800 month. But right now I like living with my brother I guess.


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[Nomad]

A beginner should start in a shed in there backyard like everyone else. Practice a lot and learn.


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[Nomad]

Yeah I don’t know what to tell you. It’s an insult to think that you need more in my opinion.
But I live in New York and it is very expensive. People earn a lot of money. My parents house was for sale at a reduced rate of $850,000 . It’s expensive.


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[Nomad]

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[Nomad]

Shit I have all these great concert tickets and troubles with my date. My friends don’t like the dead as much as I do. I got front section seats to dead and company and I want to go!


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[MUPH]

So new York cuts you a disability check each month ?! But you actually work every day.

My NY taxes at work, lovely.

No kidding, it makes me want to print off this thread and send it in to social security

[Nomad]

They know.


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[Mute]

No kidding, it makes me want to print off this thread and send it in to social security

:rollin

[Nomad]

I told them in the beginning .


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[harpentuan]

A beginner should start in a shed in there backyard like everyone else.


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I seriously don't agree with this. You do the hermit-shed-thing after you have a grasp on the basics.

[Nomad]

Take classes too of course.


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[Nomad]

I just posted bob snodgrass studio pics and it’s not much different.


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[Nomad]

There is not a lot of glass pipes being made in large multi person studios outside the west coast.


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[jr23]

Everyone done talking clear !

At one point I thought I clicked on a diff thread .

MUPH good call on not turning him in for disability .

I don't know how he gets away with it unless he does not turn in his earnings .


But alas it's a clear thread .

Congrats on case ing up swim .

What's up with the Pyrex nowadays . It's what I started on . Used to get from classcraft and tube ends looked green .

I here people saying whale has 3 diff kinds at moment . And that's just Pyrex .

Also can someone who has good info explain why people keep talking about chec Pyrex the write (simex )

Is it same formula diff name kinda thing what's the deal!

[Nomad]

Last I looked it’s 2 size lengths made in Europe.


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[PyroChixRock]

Off topic posts moved here. (http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?66794-Nomad-s-blog)