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lucidvisions
07-17-2006, 08:14 PM
Thought I'd try and keep anyone from being scammed. I got some e-mails from a guy name James Moore (jamesmoore100@yahoo.com) and he wanted $750.00 in merchandise. Wow, some good news after the worst week of my life. It sounded fishy cause he didn't want to know any specifics about the glass, but he said he had some client that ships art, blah, blah. Then I get the below e-mail and I know something isn't right with this. So I goggle his name and I find a thread where he has tried to rip off some photography students. Sweet, stealing from artists! So if you feel like shooting him an e-mail saying "Hi" go ahead, the least I can do is make this guy change his e-mail address as a thank you. ( I've sent a....couple or so.) Below is his last e-mail received.


Hello Josh Bergese & Lance Sanford,
I also want to alert you on the fact that you will be receiving an overdraft
cheque, which will cover the money for the pickup (pickup and shipping to the
final destination) as well as the money to be paid to the company that will take
care of the pickup and the documentation with you. So please, as soon as you
receive the cheque, go and cash them immediately, deduct the money that accrues
to you(Chain Bottle,Double mermaid sculpture,Spaceship), and send the balance to
the Head Office of the company that handles the shipment via the nearest Western
Union agent in your area. Deduct the Western Union charges from the balance and
send the remaining.

The cheque will be in your name to make it easier for you to receive payment,
deduct your money for the product and send the balance via Western Union as
regards my earlier direction, please reconfirm your details one more time. I
will give you the details of the company that you will send the balance of the
money to once I get a reply and agreement that you will send the money via
Western Union money transfer after you cash the cheque.
Once the money is received by the agent, the shipping agent will contact you
immediately to arrange the documentation as well as the pick up immediately. So
in view of the above, here are some of the details I will need for final
issuance of the cheque to you.

(1) Full Name
(2) Mailing address, not p.o.box please
(3) your direct telephone number
(4) acceptance of my offer

Once you get back to me with all the above, the cheque will be issued out
immediately and it will be sent to you . Hope to hear from you immediately.

Regards
James Moore :o:

lucidvisions
07-17-2006, 08:45 PM
Here's the link to the page I found were others were targeted.

http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=21863

Josh

steven p selchow
07-17-2006, 08:53 PM
sound kinda confusing, Why send more money than the items are worth? And why even involve western union? Sounds fucked up alright. Sent him an offical e-mail from the Attorney Generals office, dept. of interstate income tax division...we'll see. heh heh

lucidvisions
07-17-2006, 08:58 PM
Thanks Steven! They end up getting all of your account info from the check that you get form FED Ex and deposit. They then empty your account of the funds. Not quite sure how but it looks as if there were some that fell for it, I believe the FBI even got involved in a case. They used other names too like Alex Moore, Michael Moore, ect.

skip
07-17-2006, 09:10 PM
yeah you guys should send that shit to the feds.....

That or rough him up a bit lol......

steven p selchow
07-17-2006, 09:11 PM
no problem..was kinda fun thinking up that senario. I got one of those Nigerian scams a few yrs. back, actually read a long long story posted from some guy who ended up scamming the scammer, he outwitted him, and actually had the scammer send him $50.00 and played up a "story" about how he hit the lottery, joined the circus, and kept in contact with the scammer just to frustrate him, was quite an amusing story, wish I could remember the link, but I bet It took me an hour to read it all, guy could of been a best selling author with that one.

lucidvisions
07-17-2006, 09:14 PM
I dropped an internet fraud complaint with the feds over the internet.

SteppingRazor
07-18-2006, 07:13 AM
I got a scam like that once when i was trying to sell a PA system on craigslist. I think you should screw and mail him a box of broken glass.
~Joe

CliffsideGlassworks
07-18-2006, 09:31 AM
http://www.419eater.com/html/williams_smith.htm heres a good one ... they scamed the scammer pretty good ;)

http://www.419eater.com/html/letters.htm ... heres some scams theyve seen ...

BenKrishman
07-18-2006, 09:39 AM
no problem..was kinda fun thinking up that senario. I got one of those Nigerian scams a few yrs. back, actually read a long long story posted from some guy who ended up scamming the scammer, he outwitted him, and actually had the scammer send him $50.00 and played up a "story" about how he hit the lottery, joined the circus, and kept in contact with the scammer just to frustrate him, was quite an amusing story, wish I could remember the link, but I bet It took me an hour to read it all, guy could of been a best selling author with that one.


I remember reading that one! :D :D

lucidvisions
07-18-2006, 05:17 PM
Cliffside, those are great that guy really like to mess around with these guys. The below comment was flipping hilariuos after the scammer called one of his co-workers a liar.

"You seem quite apologetic so I will give you the benefit of the doubt and have Mr. Slater shot at dawn.

I shall instruct the board members to contact you regarding your award amount. The head of the board members is Mr. Larry David. I would advise you to curb your enthusiasm when communicating with him as he is very strict and businesslike. He is a very fair man but has no time for for niceties. You will be contacted by him shortly after I have spoken with him, which should hopefully be later this evening."

Glad to know someone's out there doing what I couldn't.

Josh

Julian
07-18-2006, 09:14 PM
Yeah, thats the typical money order scam: that happens on eBay.
Someone sends you a fake money order, you are supposed to send the balance to someone else. You get it, send money to someone, then the whole thing comes back out of your bank account a few days later since it is a fake money order, and you are out however much money you sent off + the merchandise you mailed.

brianp
07-18-2006, 09:25 PM
keep the check and see if it clears. Which it won't, as pointed out above this is a really common scam. No one overpays you for merchandise and then asks you send money as a difference. Remember, in fraud cases , banks have up to 30 days to verify checks. ( not just the 9-14 they commonly quote)

steven p selchow
07-18-2006, 10:42 PM
yeah Ben..that was funny. I forgot to mention he struck oil in Russia too in that story, had I been forewarned about these guys, I would of played with em too.

3 rip min
07-19-2006, 08:13 AM
Yeah, thats the typical money order scam: that happens on eBay.
Someone sends you a fake money order, you are supposed to send the balance to someone else. You get it, send money to someone, then the whole thing comes back out of your bank account a few days later since it is a fake money order, and you are out however much money you sent off + the merchandise you mailed.
yep that it.. it just happened to my friend... they almost lost 4 grand... the check was from fox news llc... no shit...