What kind of boro is this

[Riverglass]

I’ve been trying to locate a striking glass that I am seeing a lot of on Instagram with the hashtag nofumefumetech the closest I think I can get to it being is from northstar and part of the Amber-purple family .
The work I have seen shows a similar outcome as fume work with more vibrancy with pinks , oranges and electric hazey blues , I have tried with mega mai tai pink and the other mai tais but not having much luck in achieving the look I am seeing . Does anyone know what this mystery colour is.
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[fUmEsNiFfEr]

I've been using straight up silver. Drop some into a tube (~22mm) and start to heat. When the silver inside gets molten start rapping on the tube with a tool or a rod so that the molten ball breaks up into smaller bits that stick all over the inside. Condense that and shape into a marble.

[Riverglass]

I've been using straight up silver. Drop some into a tube (~22mm) and start to heat. When the silver inside gets molten start rapping on the tube with a tool or a rod so that the molten ball breaks up into smaller bits that stick all over the inside. Condense that and shape into a marble.

I’ll give this a try. Thanks for the tip

[BlairArtGlass]

The nofumefumetech is done with silver shavings basically like fumesniffer said from what I've seen and read. The shavings "self fume" the inside of the glass when they get condensed and real hot.

[fUmEsNiFfEr]

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The dodgy bits in this one are copper

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this one is I keep trying to redo again.

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This is an attempt before trying tube and I did it like a flower complosion.

[Riverglass]

Top results fumesniffer and I’ll see if I can find some YouTube’s on it blairartglass. Not a technique I’ve encountered yet so no wonder I’m struggling to get the end result ,

[Riverglass]

I’m guessing the dark backing is the integral part like in other fumework

[BlairArtGlass]

There are several guys in the "fume" group on Facebook that do this tech.

[istandalone24/7]

like most techniques/certain looks in this crazy medium, there are several ways to skin this cat, most involving shaved/ground up silver.
i'm 99% sure that the "no fume, fume tech" goes something like this: dump some silver bits or shavings into a tube, and melt down the tube from the end to encase the silver globules. then heat the gather until pretty soft and smack it with a hammer or other tool (dowel, graphite block?). repeat until silver is at desired distribution through the gather. i've never actually used this tech myself, but have heard plenty of people talk about it on facebook. honestly i always thought they were full of shit and trying to "have us on", but apparently it works.

what i did was to take my silver coin, shave it on a metal file and get it pretty fine ground. i'd take a tube of clear (simax was my go-to) and blow a bubble, open bubble on the end and let this bench cool a bit. then i'd either (i've done it both ways, with varying degrees of success with each) try and charge the cooled off bubble with static electricity (rubbed on a wood sleeve, kevlar worked too) and dump in some silver shavings while rotating the bubble in order to get even silver filing distribution. then take the bubble, heat gently (don't knock it on anything, your silver shavings will then fall off the walls and just gather at the bottom of bubble), close the hole and then reduce/implode the bubble to solid gather (if i wanted solid chunk) or just until the silver sticks if i wanted a hollow blank. then do whatever you wanted with it.

another way i tried was the same as above, only i'd take the bubble w/hole popped, evenly heat it until not quite hot enough to be moving and then sprinkle silver shavings into the hole while rotating, and hope like hell the shavings would stick w/o being all in one blob. then do as i did on the above example, either reduce to solid or until silver was stuck etc.

i'll attach a few examples of marbles i made using the above referenced techniques. some came out great, others merely so/so. if i can answer any other questions feel free to drop a pm or ask here.
happy holidays everyone.



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[fUmEsNiFfEr]

Those are some dope marbles man!

[istandalone24/7]

thank you kind sir!

[Riverglass]

The marbles are out of this world

[Swim]

you know glass is an insulator and ill not hold static charge right

[somewhere]

you know glass is an insulator and ill not hold static charge right

You would have to understand triboelectric properties to understand why this could work. Don't be so quick with the snarky answers.

The people who say it can't be done should get out of the way of the ones doing it.

[istandalone24/7]

it doesn't hold much of a charge, but snarky comments not withstanding, it does in fact take a static charge to an extent.

[brads]

you know glass is an insulator and ill not hold static charge right

Yeah, can't happen. No way, no how...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsxhbgCrrSQ

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[dustyg]

Yeah, can't happen. No way, no how...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsxhbgCrrSQ

> plexiglass rod

[Swim]

Yeah, can't happen. No way, no how...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsxhbgCrrSQ

cant argue with that

[brads]

> plexiglass rod

LOL. Yeah, I missed that. The video title just said "glass". Will still work with real glass though. If I remember right from my college physics days, the type of glass makes a difference, with lead glass being best. I'll hunt for a more relevant video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOWuwEhpSjk

[istandalone24/7]

yeah, i'm not educated/well versed on the properties of boro and whether or not it'll hold a static charge, but i do know that when i rubbed the cooled off bubble on wool & denim, i did in fact get significantly more silver shavings to stick to the walls of the bubble. but in all honesty, all it took was a very slight tap on the work bench (or marver, or torch etc) and all the silver that was stuck, fell right off into one pile.

i also meant to add this to my original post on this thread, but i also experimented with spraying a very fine mist of water inside the bubble (once cooled, obviously) and then sprinkled the silver shavings into the bubble. the water/mist did a really good job of keeping the fine shavings where i wanted them, and when I reheated the bubble to implode (or just work the silver in) "most" of the silver did stay where i put it even after the water had long since evaporated off.
i'll also mention that i used distilled water for this, our tap water has way too much shite in it and left weird mineral deposits on the glass.

[Swim]

hey dude, ths is the kind of conversation we need to be having, I am learning a little something and don't mind being wrong. I guess I was just assuming logically that nsulators would not hold a charge, but do remember that a part being made on my og lathe was a resistor, and it was made from a type of glass that conducted electricity clearly.

[420drummer]

Shaved silver and northstar yellow. ‘Nuff said.

[istandalone24/7]

Shaved silver and northstar yellow. ‘Nuff said.

Example pics of said combo?


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[Riverglass]

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Ok not bad results using the technique you described. I think if I stretch it out and use a little less I can get a subtle fumed effect , maybe implode some amber purpled in first then the silver technique on top then back it with black , that’s what my next attempt will be anyway , but all in all not to bad for my first trial .

[fUmEsNiFfEr]

Word! looks good!

[Riverglass]

Word! looks good!


Thanks finally getting some results and getting the hang of bails at the same time so double bonus