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2scoops
01-22-2007, 06:23 PM
So I was watching this video on youtube, and this person just murders this honeycomb pendant, the first part is good but it does not end well (in my opinion). One thing I notice is that this person was over using the padle to "re-round" his pendant and just winds up wasting time and not making it look much better. I personally prefer shaping in the flame as much as possible. I guess im just curious how many folks out there "air" marver and how many use a paddle or some other surface.

-Scoops

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01-22-2007, 07:30 PM
Wow, i just wasted some time watching it and he definitly murders that thing. Personally, I like my pendants to look smoooth, not lumpy. But concerning your question, i try to use the flame, pressure and gravity to shape my pendants; the forces are so much smoother. Of course, my marvering skills aren't great, but the only time i marver pendants is to clean up the loop and flatten the back/front or vice versa for the back, or press into a marble mold for shaping the front. I also usually don't make pendants that big because of weight issues, but I would have tried to do my shaping with more blowing and condensing and blowing, but hey, what do i know.

Shatner
01-22-2007, 07:40 PM
Link to vid?

It depends on what I'm doing. If I'm rounding out a lense, I'll let gravity and heat do the work. If I'm closing a flare, I use a paddle.

Firekist
01-22-2007, 07:47 PM
i marver pretty much whenever i can, as long as it's not going to mess up the final product.
i used to "air" marver just about everything, but i've decided that's too slow for me.

after marvering there is always some "air" marvering afterwards, because i think you do get the smoothest finish, and a more even form/shape from it.

i remember trying to marver at different steps, and failing miserably.. now i can do those things that i used to think couldn't be done well.. which is why i marver more now than i used to.

both ways work imo, marvering usually gets you to the same point quicker.. also imo.

z--seth

VinE
01-22-2007, 07:49 PM
gravity and heat are usually more consistent then the human hand. But lots of techs can be "helped along" with the right tools .

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01-22-2007, 07:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRy4OgWnbRg&mode=related&search=


A link to one of the vids.

I can see where PROPER marvering would speed things up.

2scoops
01-24-2007, 05:18 PM
I agree, there are certain times you can speed things up a bit by marvering and there are some shaping techs you can't do with just air and gravity as well as you can with a paddle. I usually have a better time rounding things by air marvering rather than with a paddle. In my opinion your piece will stay more evenly heated the less you marver with paddles and such.

-Scoops