View Full Version : dildos/safty/legalities?
mistahead
02-08-2007, 11:49 PM
people want dills! i wasnt into trying to make them before because of possible safty issues and legalities, but ive made a few lately as gifts and stuff, now a bunch of people want them. so with something like this is there anything i should be worried about if something went wrong?? or someone was injured while using one? do i need to get a waiver of some sort? put a disclaimer on them? should i maybe get a polariscope to check for stress after. dont need to get sued or anything now do we!!:D
jeves311
02-08-2007, 11:52 PM
I'd just say they're aren't functional, but of course they'll use em :)
nasty
02-09-2007, 01:48 AM
thats what i'm goin to do is get a polarawhatevathe fuck its called and make sure u really fire aneal them good, no stress and u should be good, o' incase all color and fume
tristanr
02-09-2007, 01:57 AM
wont the fume come off with use?
try explaneing that rash to your doctor :evilLaugh
somberbear
02-09-2007, 06:45 AM
polariscope... two polorized filters with a back light....for showing stress....
big problem is that it doesnt work on color like it does clear.....
i make mine out of clear... clear is so sexy if you can get your form down proper.
Ummm .... dont know about legalitys.... i aneal .. check in a scope if it has minimum stress... then i sell it... but i also only do custom work so i can talk to thine and tell them not to use it like a hammer..... consitering the act... i dont think a properly constructed dillie would ever break..... but you never know....
I would just use clear to your comfy that you can create a peice with colors that wont effect the strength of the peice.... i would figure solid colors would be best....
Some states have bans on sexual or marital aids.... most the time these products are sold under a novelty or personal health care names..... as far as i can remeber.
peace rob
I was trying to sell a porn store some extra dillis I had after valentines day one year, and they started saying that they heard a story about a dillis from a local blower breaking off inside someone. They were actually being kinda rude and mocking so I slammed one on their counter and chipped a big chip in their counter and not even a scratch on the dilli. They got even madder and threw me out me all the while I was laughing my ass off.
Jerry Gash
02-09-2007, 07:47 AM
I am in the process of trying to make a few, i ordered 1" clear apparently all the girls i know have "large vaginas" because they all complained that 1" wasnt even gonna hit the sides. Now i feel kinda insecure.....
Anyone know where i can get 4" black rod?
;)
max16o2
02-09-2007, 08:10 AM
hahahahaahhahahahahhaHAHAHA on the last 2 posts
smutboy420
02-09-2007, 08:43 AM
lol lol
ShttrdSpctrm
02-09-2007, 09:06 AM
if someone breaks a dilly off inside them, they need help
SteppingRazor
02-09-2007, 09:41 AM
you would need some sort of ninja snatch to break a glass dilly. seriously i doubt any of those stories about them breaking inside a customer are true.
since they are made from glass and not latex they really are'nt met for anything other than solo use. you can really damage someone's genitials ramming furriously ramming it in and out.
~joe
Pilgrim
02-09-2007, 10:06 AM
heyn i make mine line of dills on 38mm xxhwt full of color and gold fume , some times i use opals in them ... very high end toys, the tubing is stronger then solid rod and will take more abuse "lots of it".... the funny thing is i make alot of them for my wifes friends....hehehe sort of wierd knowing my handy work is getting them off when there spouce cant.....
I have a line of hollow dills that hold a small vibe.. most of them start at $150.00..... NEVER HAD ONE BREAK OR COME BACK
making lots of ladies cummm ....
Scottland FredHead Glass
dnug42
02-09-2007, 10:20 AM
yea clear is cool but tube collapse is way cool- latty inside...looks dope the girls seem to like the bumpies as well- opal inside- nice one- yea i would not go with fume on outside......
nick84
02-09-2007, 12:10 PM
This thread is too funny..hahahaha....
billtcat
02-09-2007, 02:49 PM
ok who is going to post a tutorial on this?
:)
Abe Fleishman
02-09-2007, 04:35 PM
Talking about breaking dillis. I saw some import dillid from China years ago and the were crazy scary for the ladies. There was stess cracks and none melted tickle spots. This might have been only samples but a store I was selling to had them and said there was no problems with them, when in the back o9f my head I was like scary.
Abe
UmaJulz
02-09-2007, 04:38 PM
Watch Real Sex on Thursday nites- HBO- they frequently have the glassblowers on making dillies on the lathe or whatever-scientific blowers gone to major dilly production, and loving it! Plus you get to watch the research and development, and product testing segments too!
haven't seen one in a while, so it must be time for the reruns...
UmaJulz
02-09-2007, 04:40 PM
Yeah, cracks- that would be very scarey.
the only thing I could think of possibly breaking might be the handle on a juicer- and that could be bad for the operator LOL
Greymatter Glass
02-09-2007, 04:43 PM
Yeah Abe, I have seen those around here as well.... one shop had a few a while back that were either import or really crappy domestic, with cadmium colors all boiled and rough on the outside..... I kinda cringed thinking about the poor girl who got one of those. Some people should stick to selling tie dyed shirts, inscense, and fake dread hats.
as for size... yeah... I made a few a while back and showed them to some of my female friends and to my surprise they were all whores too. They wanted much bigger. I figured I'd find some 50mm rod (anyone know who has some? I know corning has made it in the past) and chuck it in a lathe and shape it into a fist and show that to some people.... see what they say.
-Doug
ok who is going to post a tutorial on this?
:)
^^^^^^ LOL! I'm obviously immature because this thread is hilarious to me.
WORLD FAMOUS
02-09-2007, 07:57 PM
I've never heard a legit-sounding story about breakage either...I think it's probably a story some douchebag made up back in the day to keep people out of his market. That's my guess. I wouldn't worry about the legalities if you know what you are doing with glass, and just doing a few for friends/acquaintances. If you are starting a dilly company, then I think you may have some legal obligations for insurance and such.
menty666
02-09-2007, 08:55 PM
I'm just guessing that the legal wink and a nod here is the disclaimer all these toys usually carry that says "sold as a novelty only".
Having said that, maybe I should make a novelty for my wife but make sure it anneals over a couple of days to make sure it's good and sturdy.
Meerkat
02-09-2007, 10:23 PM
I am glad this thread started up, as I bought some dilly stock and am going to start doing this myself, I have not seen any glass dills for sale anywhere and with the limited number of boro workers in Oz, its not like I would have much competition, so it seems like a good way to go.
Unfortunetly my kiln is busted right now so its iportant I fix that so I can anneal properly, and I am going to build a polariscope. I dont know where to buy polarized filters, but while digging through some stuff I found these paper glasses they give you to watch 3-D movies and they are using polaraized pieces of plastic for the lenses, they are only about 2"x2" but I figure I could build a small polariscope with those. I could even make it portable with a flashlight as the light source to show to explain to sex shops what stress and annealing is all about.
But still I do wonder about the legalities, as it is possible for someone to be stupid and to drop their dilly on a concrete floor and chip or crack it and then just keep on using it and then it could crack on them and cut them up. I think I am going to include a little card with each one talking about proper use and care and to inspect them before each use for chips and cracks.
Meerkat
02-09-2007, 10:30 PM
I am also wondering what the limits of my Mirage are, how thick of a rod can I work ? I think i definetly need to invest in some rollers and these are gonna be heavy. Does anyone have plans for homebuilt rollers ? I have heard about making some out of skateboard wheels mounted on a block of wood.
mistahead
02-10-2007, 01:34 AM
thanks for all the responses guys!!
def gonna get/make a polariscope, and deffinetly get some rollers meerkat, your gonna need um for the dills!!
Shatner
02-10-2007, 11:53 AM
I am also wondering what the limits of my Mirage are, how thick of a rod can I work ? I think i definetly need to invest in some rollers and these are gonna be heavy. Does anyone have plans for homebuilt rollers ? I have heard about making some out of skateboard wheels mounted on a block of wood.
I wouldn't worry about your Mirage. I haven't run into anything mine cant handle.
WORLD FAMOUS
02-10-2007, 01:01 PM
For sure ^^^ I've done a bunch of pornstar sized toys on the Phantom.
Jerry Gash
02-10-2007, 01:06 PM
I am glad this thread started up, as I bought some dilly stock and am going to start doing this myself, I have not seen any glass dills for sale anywhere and with the limited number of boro workers in Oz, its not like I would have much competition, so it seems like a good way to go.
Unfortunetly my kiln is busted right now so its iportant I fix that so I can anneal properly, and I am going to build a polariscope. I dont know where to buy polarized filters, but while digging through some stuff I found these paper glasses they give you to watch 3-D movies and they are using polaraized pieces of plastic for the lenses, they are only about 2"x2" but I figure I could build a small polariscope with those. I could even make it portable with a flashlight as the light source to show to explain to sex shops what stress and annealing is all about.
But still I do wonder about the legalities, as it is possible for someone to be stupid and to drop their dilly on a concrete floor and chip or crack it and then just keep on using it and then it could crack on them and cut them up. I think I am going to include a little card with each one talking about proper use and care and to inspect them before each use for chips and cracks.
I wonder how many women actually carefully inspect their glass dilly before use......hmmmm.
:tongue2:
UmaJulz
02-10-2007, 01:31 PM
Uh, they should... like when they're washing it... unless they use the dishwasher.
Meerkat
02-10-2007, 09:17 PM
Since I am also going to be doing this as soon as I get my kiln fixed, I am starting to think about pricing.... Most of the properly made glass dills have always been high priced (which I think is good), around $100 or higher depending on the work that went into them. Granted I have seen all the cheap import glass dills going for around $20 sometimes less. But I am wondering what a good price is for a proper made, local one ?
Take for example, lets say were making just a clear dildo, not too elaborate, I would take my 30mm diameter chunk of rod, that was say 30cm (12 inches) long, and that cost me about about $26 AUD ($20 USD) per meter, so that 30cm (12 inch) length cost about $8 AUD ($6.20 USD). and let's just say it takes about a half hour in a raging outer flame to make it into the curves, ridges and shape I want. Then of course there is annealing time and the cost of the electricity to do that.
So we got appx $7 USD in glass (counting punties and other glass used), a half hours worth of oxy/propane in a raging flame and appx 5 to 6 hours of kiln time (electricity rates will vary).. but just looking at that, its probably no more than $20 USD in total costs, and $20 labour costs for a half hours work is more than good for something simple. So $50 USD sounds like a really good and fair price, yet I have seen clear ones going for $100 USD or more. And if you do any research at high end sex shops (ie not sleazy sketchy ones) you will see that they sell silicone dildos for over $100 and thats just someone pouring liquid into a mold and letting it cure. So I think that when it comes to glass dills, a higher price is reasonable, no ?
I wonder how many women actually carefully inspect their glass dilly before use......hmmmm.
I would hope all would...
Jerry Gash
02-10-2007, 09:43 PM
I would hope all would...
I guess you just never really see women inspecting their dilly's before ramming themselves with them.....heh or atleast they msu have edited that part out in the norp i got.
;)
Wierdeer
02-10-2007, 10:44 PM
Never had you break either No complaints! never made any with color though.
not my usual product
Wierdeer
02-10-2007, 10:44 PM
woops
UmaJulz
02-11-2007, 10:13 AM
Pricing: 3 X materials + time @ $60/hour US minimum = ballpark price, but I don't know if that would be a good retail or not. From your numbers in your post, you've got $21 for mat'l + $30 time + kiln time... $50 is too low. But then again, I wouldn't pay $50 for a 1 1/4" toy, ever. You've got to think Big and Impressive- it has to be bigger and better than the average joy stick.
mistahead
02-11-2007, 05:02 PM
^^^^LOL!!! now thats a woman!!!
Pilgrim
02-11-2007, 08:25 PM
like i said tubing is the way to go less gathering time .. more color oppisions less stress threw the thickness that could and usally do cause problems, tubbing will take more abuse then solid rod 'example ' drop 8 inces of road and heavey wall tubbing see witch one breaks.
and pricing for a quality produce should start at 125 and up...
Scottland, FredHead Glass...
puddletown
02-12-2007, 10:01 AM
I have made a few of these in my adventures with glass, and done some product testing. We took some clear glass toys and dropped them on a cement floor from varying heights, ! foot, 2 feet, etc. It took untill almost 4 feet off the ground for there to be any serious damage to be done to the dill.
If you guys want to check out the market and whats for sale out there check these guys out.
www.phallix.com
just a guide
I personally wouldn't make any hollow ones
UmaJulz
02-12-2007, 10:52 AM
Checked out a bunch of those sites... now I know where the term "dinky" came from... "1" in diameter! 4" of penetration!" and that is supposed to be satisfying? nyuk nyuk nyuk, goof balls...
Jerry Gash
02-12-2007, 11:18 AM
Checked out a bunch of those sites... now I know where the term "dinky" came from... "1" in diameter! 4" of penetration!" and that is supposed to be satisfying? nyuk nyuk nyuk, goof balls...
Now i kinda feel insecure about myself....
:wtf1:
im with you julz..... sorry boys, size DOES matter.
hahaha this thread is really funny.
UmaJulz
02-13-2007, 10:34 AM
Cracks me right up!
sorry guys, don't want you all to have a complex or anything, but ACE is right. :)
Meerkat
02-13-2007, 06:59 PM
Sam Kineson had a great standup routine about women saying guy's dicks are too small until they do anal and then its like "oh my god your too big, get it out, get it out"
Meerkat
02-14-2007, 07:02 PM
I wonder how much of a price markup one could get for just taking a foot long chunk of rod (whatever diameter) and rounding off each end in the flame and sellng as a dill
UmaJulz
02-14-2007, 10:50 PM
pickle?
CripSkillz
02-14-2007, 11:36 PM
heres some pricing for you girls, http://www.allglasssextoys.com/cart/g-spot-dildos.php but there aint nothing here gona make a girl squrim like a good strong toung!
mistahead
02-15-2007, 12:10 AM
glass tounges!!!!!! haha ok maybe not,i guess maybe theyed get lost???!!??
nickglassdood
02-15-2007, 07:25 AM
i heard its all about the girth ????
whats the gig
its not like im working wiht a coke can or nuttin
damn i told the chic i was a grower not a showr
Meerkat
02-15-2007, 07:50 PM
heres some pricing for you girls, http://www.allglasssextoys.com/cart/g-spot-dildos.php but there aint nothing here gona make a girl squrim like a good strong toung!
I just checked out that site, are those accurate prices for what dills are going for ? Granted every demographic area is different and you will get more or less dollars dependning on where you are at and the kind of people around you, but still if I could make those kind of prices by making dills, thats some seriously good money.
Look at this one for example
http://www.allglasssextoys.com/cart/description/IIx905/
Thats nothing more than a chunk of rod with some very simple torch work done to make the thick areas, it could be pumped out in no time and they want $140 bucks for it. There is probably $10 in expenses into that for glass, gases and kiln electricty.
CripSkillz
02-15-2007, 07:54 PM
Ya not bad ehe you should get to work on that right now $$$$$ oh ya and check where ya buy it retail is 140$ they sell for 90$
glass tounges!!!!!! haha ok maybe not,i guess maybe theyed get lost???!!??
get lost???i don't know what kind of pussy you've been eating dude, but you don't just LOSE stuff down there....
this thread is more halarious everytime i look at it...
slave
02-15-2007, 11:31 PM
lol randy lives in a igloo sometimes things freeze and break off... well then its 'lost' forever. he wouldn't want to lose his tounge too.
muhahahahaha......well whatever youre losing, vajayjay's (thats what i call em) are not some kind of black hole yo. you can't possiblly loose anything down there....it doesnt work like that!:hehe:
Natedizzle
02-16-2007, 12:31 AM
I had a feeling this thread was going to get funny... but I didn't see this coming at all hahahaha :mohawk:
Nathan
mistahead
02-16-2007, 12:39 AM
whatchu talkin bout ace i get lost in the vajayjays for days on end:p
WORLD FAMOUS
02-16-2007, 04:25 AM
I just found out that a (once very shy) ex-girlfriend is now on her way to pornstardom...wait, is that a word? If not, it is now. Regardless, I just finished off some crazy bling-bling toys for her to show off in her new movies. This is cool - I never thought I'd see that sweet vajayjay ever again!
ShttrdSpctrm
02-16-2007, 07:05 AM
i bet theres a couple of vajayjays out there that something could get lost in. hahahahahahahaha this thread is effen funny
nickglassdood
02-16-2007, 08:41 AM
dood this chic had the biggest vajayjay
haayhaay
gypsea
02-16-2007, 09:04 AM
what a great word! i think i'm gonna adopt it!
so what is the opposite of a vajayjay?
a paneenee?
Greymatter Glass
02-16-2007, 09:08 AM
that's a type of bread.
and for the grower not a shower....I'll have to remember that one :)
http://www.rathergood.com/hedgehogs/
UmaJulz
02-16-2007, 12:02 PM
Oh man, you had to link to my favorite video site... now I'm gonna be singing "Flange" "Gash!" "Minge" "Slot" "Box" "Axe wound!" "ooh hoo"
you guys are funny as hell
.....but you need an anatomy lesson.
i don't know what the opposite is, we should make one up!!
that hedgehog shit is really funny too!!!but how are they not popping the inflatible raft or whatever theyre on?
UmaJulz
02-16-2007, 07:09 PM
Hmm, I'd bet Misha and I could come up with a few interesting names...
menty666
02-16-2007, 07:24 PM
I'm not so sure penenenee works.....too much like panini, and I don't want hot metal plates anywhere near that part of my anatomy!
Meerkat
02-17-2007, 12:44 AM
Ya not bad ehe you should get to work on that right now $$$$$ oh ya and check where ya buy it retail is 140$ they sell for 90$
Still $90 is a good amount of profit for just some simple work on clear rod. Not that I am against making that kinda money, I am just curious if those are accurate prices of what people are paying for dills.
CripSkillz
02-17-2007, 09:43 AM
actually i couldnt really tell ya if there accurate or not as I dont usually buy dillydallies,,,, HUmmmm maybe if I bought 1 i could save 100$ a month on my viagra bill ,naaaa woulednt be as fun
menty666
02-17-2007, 09:52 AM
I get the feeling that the silicone and plastic market still wins out on those mostly because of price but also people tend to have a hard time getting past the "will it break off in my vajajay?" question
I guess if you play up the sanitary and dishwasher safe angles it's a good way to go. Maybe offer a "custom built" line so people can have a 3" wide fatty if they want or extra nubs or extra cork screw twists or whatever.
There's actually a company that makes (not out of glass) a line of dildos for a very tiny market; they make animal shapes. IOW, if you want a dog penis or a horse penis dildo, they make 'em. So if you don't mind dealing with the clientele that would order such an item, there ya go. New market. Glass pony penises.
I'm gonna go wash my mind out with soap now :)
nickglassdood
02-17-2007, 10:00 AM
i love how vajayjay is now the word for pussy
no comment on horsecock
Alfred
02-17-2007, 10:22 AM
And here I thought I was the only one that loved the hedgehogs!!
i love how vajayjay is now the word for pussy
no comment on horsecock
hahaha me too dude....ive started a vajayjay revolution....
UmaJulz
02-17-2007, 04:34 PM
PeeniWalli
:o:
Meerkat
02-18-2007, 12:06 AM
I could be wrong, but I think that silicone dildos are sanitary and dish washer safe as wll. There is an upscale sex shop in Vancouver that caters mainly to lesbians, I used to work about a block from them and knew one of the women who ran the store so I hung out there now and then. Most of their dills were silicone and were pretty pricey. From about $100 for a standards size/shape dill up to $300 for a double ended strapon.
I am planning to make my first one soon and I have never had anything in my kiln bigger than a 1" marble. So I was wondering if anyone could give advise on annealing something that large and thick.
Also where can you buy polarized filters or such ? A camera store ? How much are they on average ?
Kalera
08-10-2007, 11:11 AM
Oooh I dredged up this thread looking for info on making dillys, and I'm glad I did because it's HIGH-larious!
I have to say, I think any woman serious about her cooch is going to want a variety of dildoes, so it's not a matter of silicone vs. glass... it's all about choices, choices, choices... which toy do I pull out of the drawer tonight? :devilish:
Anyway, I want to start making 'em for friends... I don't care about selling them, but I think they'll make great gifts! Thanks for the tips and the laughs in this thread, guys! :)
Skye Perry
08-10-2007, 01:41 PM
Oh man, you had to link to my favorite video site... now I'm gonna be singing "Flange" "Gash!" "Minge" "Slot" "Box" "Axe wound!" "ooh hoo"
We use words like flap jacks,beef curtians ,floppy tuna bowl and bacon strips .But on a seriouse note I sell dillies to one company because of an agreement that i made with them . I had them put a disclaimer on them that basically says (Warning do not use this massager if chiped ,cracked or broken manufacterers and distrabuters are not responsible in any way for accidents).I always call them massagers because when I used to live in Texas you could not use the term dildo when inside the porn shops .Kinda like useing the "B" word in a smoke shop .From what I understand alot of other states have adopted this selective use of words in porn shops for legal reasons.
garrick
08-10-2007, 01:44 PM
this thread is hilarious, i guess i missed this one during those years without the internet
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