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Ive been doing this for about 4 months now so please bear with me if you guys have any tips or advise please share alittle this is all from me trying to teach myself.
nice your getting it your color looks melted in for the most part although that twisted chilum looks a little stressed out. dont use so much color would be my suggestion, work with fume and shaping until your work gets more consistant
Ya it looks like your gettin it but melting it all in is important that first spoon the white and that other color need melting in more that white will pop right off if given the chance. Also are you pulling stringers? It looks like your using the color rods themselves to apply the color wich you by all means can, but stringers are easier to control and saves color. Keep it up bro. All in all for 4 months it looks ok you'll get there.
Thanks guys it took alot for me to grow the bowls to post this on here lol. Thats just some work after i got the new torch. I am however starting to do work more with stringer and starting to try some iso work and blow ins. I have been working with the fuming though the bub is fumed i just burn most of it off after i covered some spots in clear. I made another bub last night that i really hit the money on. Ill post the pic tonight.
Just forget color and try and work with clear for a while. Color is just adding way more variables to an already difficult process.
Use clear and silver/gold fuming for now. Trust me, the fewer things to worry about when you start, the faster you will get to where you want to be. If you try and skip right over the basics, you will struggle for MUCH longer than needed. You definitely should put the blow ins/ISO work on the back burner until you can shape some clear.
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Best advice you're gonna get.
I actually work better with color it makes me take my time and be more considered about how consistent the the thickness is and how the shape looks i was always taught if its worth doing its worth spending the extra time doing right or at least getting as close to right as possible. Ive only seen torch once first hand and i have very few tools to help with the process. So for what ive done and what schooling i got *which has all been from second hand or even third party* i think im doing a damn good job. Plus it is way to easy to get rippin hot instead of working temp. The color helps balance it out so i dont end up with just molten globs of clear. Everyone learns in their own way at their own speed. And for me i find thos to be the best way
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Why don't they ever seem to take that advice?
Plus it is way to easy to get rippin hot instead of working temp. The color helps balance it out so i dont end up with just molten globs of clear.
If that's happening you need to work better with the clear It's about heat base. Master the clear.
Good start dude!
Thank you purdy. Do you guys understand that bub up there is only the second one ive ever done?
you should really put bubs on the backburner also. ive only made 3 in my year and a half blowing glass, and only one im decently satisfied with. there are so many things to learn before you are ready to put a downstem in a can, make a nice connection, bridge it up and work the seal out nice. if you wana go far in glass start mastering the consistant production fumed spoon. once you can make them the same every time start adding things one step at a time. add color dots for grip, do wrap and rakes, add a horn, ect.. but you have to be able to shape a nice spoon before you can make a bub. crawl before you walk friend.
Ill do that thank you for putting it in a more polite manner.
Its hard to build a shop and get into your first few glassblowing sessions and not want to just do it all.
Screw around till you fell satisfied with well, trying to just make stuff when you have no clue.( Not saying this was you).
Then go to the basics.
Take Mecha's advice.
Every new person post like this one goes the same,
Hey check out my stuff..
Hey nice stuff but work in clear to get shaping down ....blah blah blah....
then the response whatever that is ( usually ignoring the remark)
On down the road we go.
Time melting stuff will give you clues, this place is the tome of glass knowledge .
The folks above know, listen to them learn and it will all work out.
Im for the way i reacted about the advice. I just tend to take things alittle personal about cause i havent had anyone teach me a thing and im proud of what ive done. But i will take everyones advice i might tweek it but ill take the advice. Till i make some peices that are up to par heres my last bub for awhile.
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After trying to make three of the exact same look and basic style of pipe. I now see why you guys are so stern about out of the three only one ended up looking how i wanted it. I have to say making bubs are so much easier then making clear fumed pipes. Thank you everyone for setting me straight.
What size of tubing is standard to use for pipes
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I have to say making bubs are so much easier then making clear fumed pipes.
I use 25mm mostly on hand pipes with o/s color work 38-44mm for I/O its mostly just what I prefer, there's no wright answer tho .
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You ask for advice then have a melt down when you get it. You brag about how proud you are multiple times. You ask questions that have already been answered many times over on this forum. Get over yourself, do your own research, and keep your nose to the grindstone.Quote:
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This is NOT the Internet based Glass Help Hotline, no one is getting paid to post here, and no one cares if you're not happy with the service.
Op rock on you others go fuck off. Op get some og moss and a grip of satins if color is your bitch.
Then do your work and its ready to go, The baller color's look tight even when not melted in and that organic natural shaping is very hard to get and is a selling point. Who wants a piece that looks like everyone's.
And Muph get your head out of D's Ass
If you would have thrown in the shut up and blow glass you could have your head up roger and D's ass at the same time.
What up now muph you want spanked?
If you dont want to post on this thread then dont
right on you want me to hold muph while you spank him I can get a mod 2 watch for a extra hundo!
Holy shit dude you rock. Thank you for sticking up for me man. Muph bragging isnt what im doing. What im doing is proving im not some kid doing this for a hobby and trying to make a fast buck. This is what i live for. My ultimate glass dream is to be in DFO with my girlfriend *who is now a glass head*. I want to own my own shop i want to have a name here and damnit im going to do it. And if any more people like you muph want to try and put me down and stand in my path i will show you the kind of glass head i am. This isnt a hobby this isnt a hot ass passing by this is a lifestlye a choice and i will go the mile.
just wanted to drop in and say hello, I'm witnessing this thread happen :D :D :D
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Everyone here has had big dreams. You got some really good advice but you dont know how to be humble and realize people aren't trying to put you down.You know a million times less about glass than you think no matter how big of a glass head you claim to be. You can't learn anything when you already know everything.
If you expect anyone to take you serious calm down a bit. No one here cares about the bravado of someone who just joined.
Not for nothin but here's a read. This is where I am all over again but this time in the glass world.
Quote by Gold Fire Glass :
"I will just add a little example of my experiences to this thread as I see to show you what my apprenticeship entailed.
In 1976 ( aging myself here ) I met a man through a friend and we began talking . I asked the man what do you do for a living? He responded with " I'm a Goldsmith " me at the age of 16 said cool. I said I would really like to learn that trade ! His response was Who is going to teach you ? It's just not that easy now go away kid........ 3 hrs later I again expressed my desire to learn anything and everything about being a Goldsmith . Again he asked the question who is going to teach you ? Me being a little more brazen this time responded with " you are " He laughed and again said fuck off kid. The next day Mon. Morning I showed up at his shop and knocked on the door, when he answered his mouth dropped and he said yeah what do you want. I again explained that I wanted to learn anything and everything that came with becoming a Goldsmith... He laughed and said what the fuck OKAY . I just about crapped my pants !
We walked into the shop and I was enthralled by the gold the diamonds the equipment hell even the smell turned me
on . He handed me a broom and said get to work, after your done sweeping the shop you can get a bucket of soapy water and wash all the benches and table tops too ! Of course at 16 yrs old and cocky as hell I was like WTF and he explained to me in his kindest voice (right lol) if you want to learn like you say you want to you will do what I say when I say and don't ask any questions. I humbly put my tail between my legs and shut the fuck up and did what he asked.
The next 3 months of my apprenticeship was spent with more cleaning ,wiping benches and quietly watching over his shoulder . He explained to me that teaching someone was actually detrimental to his environment because his usual flow and focus was interrupted by him stopping every few seconds to explain things and showing me various techs etc. He also explained that he didn't mind as long as I kept the place clean kept my mouth shut as well as filled my daily quota of prep work so it actually wasn't costing HIM money anymore to teach me. After all I was making
$3.65 per hour or $158.60 a week net in the day lol.
To make a real real long story short I stayed with that man for the next 8 yrs , through thick and thin good and bad.
I earned his respect through my actions and my dedication to learning my craft with my full undivided attention respect and dedication. I will be honest I went through Hell but I will say one thing.
That man GAVE me a job, career a life and a future and I will always be eternally greatfull to that man for the GIFT he bestowed upon me that day in 1976 when I first knocked on his door.
I am in know way whining or crying about what I had to go through to become a Goldsmith I wouldn't trade any of it for anything. I have also gone on to teach others. he was right it does drain your energy and takes alot of your time and effort. Some students were good some not so good. Some were there for what I like to call " The Hollywood " side of being a Goldsmith. They don't see feel or know about the actual hard work , long hours, extreme dedication, burnt fingers etc etc etc that goes along with it. The guts with the glory if you will.
Like explained in earlier posts , It is not a RIGHT to have this valuable knowledge handed down from one Lamper to
another it is a GIFT an HONOR to have it passed down.
If it takes some effort and hard work on your part to get to where you want to be in this trade then do it! Invest the time ,energy , countless , thankless hours on the torch as well as the resources like many of the elders and more experienced people on this forum have had to do to get to where they are today. I honestly don't think people mind to help as long as ( stated previously) you are willing and sincere and show some respect and effort on your part to be competent enough to accept this GIFT that you are being given. I am just trying to say to the Noobs ( like me )
exactly what has been previously stated in many posts before this one listen, study, learn , and most important search all the resources of this Forum . It is all here .
Yes maybe you have to use the " advanced " potion of the search engine but dig , it is all here .
Sorry for the long winded post. This is just a little about my past experiences and my .02 on this matter.
Again not for nothing ! Just my .02
you mean you haven't had anyone teach you at thing in person.. this forum was built by people.. and that statement might come off as offensive to the those who have inadvertently shared the knowledge they acquired with you.Quote:
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be proud, feel good ,. enjoy.. but then put it a broader perspective. A true critic would say your work sucks and you don't even know what good glass is yet.. but no one wants to put you down (or they themselves don't know what good work is). appreciate your cheerleaders for the feel good.. but keep in mind if they are giving you good constructive criticism.. realize it's to help, and appreciate that, otherwise they are just cheer leaders..(which there is nothing wrong with)... I love my cheerleaders.
I really hope your longevity matches your ambition, I can't wait to see your work in 3/6/12 months..
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Sorry James, but MUPH is right. If you can't take criticism then don't ask for it.
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James, your not in the land of the ladies anymore..(LWE). Get used to the flames, or put down the torch
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who was offering the free spanking?!? hah
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Sure, which is why everyone is suggesting you don't worry about color for a while and concentrate on just how glass itself works with the simplest color - clear.Quote:
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In all fairness to Muph, the title of this thread is "Noob pics *open fire*" so what did you expect? You even put *'s around the words open fire, Fucking *'s!!!!! Seriously my dude, stop whining like a person who Can't Understand Normal Thinking and get to work!
This place can be an angelic, dirty, little catholic school girl or a scab crusted, herpies covered, STD ridden crack whore...your ego will most often be the deciding factor. From your attitude so far i hope you don't mind burnt and dried up crack whore lips on your dick!
For a glimps into your future search for posts involving spagbob.
I'm really glad glass is your passion and we all love to discuss it in depth here. So just chill out a little soak it all in and enjoy your stay on the melting pot ;P Good luck!
I'm out you dirty little bitches!
Muph spanking is one of my favorite things!
Always a good laugh....keep at it james, you'll show them.