i got a couple of these in the oven, i so wish i had a top to test with. i'll probably buy one from that etsy page, thanks for the link!
you're right though, the asian kids are crazy about this shit.
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i got a couple of these in the oven, i so wish i had a top to test with. i'll probably buy one from that etsy page, thanks for the link!
you're right though, the asian kids are crazy about this shit.
It took me a few a day for a week or two to get the concave right. Like I said it is the hardest part.
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I have these in stock. I kind of stocked up.
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nice!! the pic above, the blue/amber one is beautiful.
are you using gravity to make the concave/depression, or are you using a light push with a rounded tool?
Fire polish it. Spin in the flame. Marver it. No tools except maybe my stump shaper on the bottom.
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I don't make them that large. People ask me for 4 inch ones but I don't make them.
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This is what I am working on now.
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Those spin stations are very pretty nomad. Nice work.
I got a bunch of thank you letters from customers who bought them saying they were just what they wanted. But business is slow. I have been selling a few every month though.
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The demand for pipes is far greater.
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I'm running low on glass. I'm going to have to scrape together enough for another case but I am good on the other sizes and colors now. Abr only had it in stock in Phoenix location. Or I would have ordered it last night with the other stuff from Bloomington location.
Stress...
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I made some silver and gold fumed bubblers today. I have a lot of them to make and new Rasta spoons since I ordered the color.
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Stress....
I promised I would not mention it.
I was reading chameleon glass website and it is cool they offer apprenticeship and in house positions. Kind of depressing the job description though.
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This is my resume' and bio.
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I have it on my iCloud if anyone wants a PDF emailed or text.
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What's depressing about the Chameleon description? It seems pretty on point to me. It kinda reads to me like they're just saying "You'll bleed, you'll sweat, you'll work your ass off, and you'll spend a lot of time eating ramen (when you don't spend your ramen money on burn cream) before you're making real money. Out of every 150 or so of you, maybe 10 won't realize you can make get paid the same, or better, at a job that has air conditioning and actually AVOIDS big shards of flesh rending glass in the work place. Still wanna do it? Come see us"
I think you'll get about the same advice from anyone honest. Hell, I first started back in 2001 or so, when the money was still comparatively easy, and that's the advice I got from everyone then (as for my crappy current work...LOTS of down time, I was one of the sissies that ran off and tried the air conditioning and no burned flesh or bleeding thing. Also...Pipe Dreams = Shawshank dreams)
You're way over the hump they're talking about, brother. Just a matter of sinking in to a product line that keeps you whole. You've definitely got the consistency down. So yeah, there's the tie-in to the work critique thread. The rack looks sweet, I actually kinda dig on the W&R thing, I don't see it as much these days
Yeah it's cool and honest for sure.
Comparing it to flipping burgers turns me off though.
$12 hour is a little depressing for a master glassblower. So is the fact that they are only pipe makers.
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It's really whatever works. To be honest. I have not accomplished as much as them really. So what do I know?
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I think flipping burgers should be $15 hour and glass should be $30. But things are less expensive in Arizona also.
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Look lazy people are lazy. When lazy people smoke weed they are lazy. Not everyone who smokes weed is lazy.
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Well, they're talking about apprenticeships, bit different. In any profession you're really not in that profession yet as a walk-in apprentice. I've got a few buddies that started in dry wall and other trades like that, they made crap pay and they were basically janitors for the guys that knew what they were doing for the first year. They had decent money, but that's because they worked a TON of overtime. I don't think a beginner in a trade is usually regarded as doing much better than a burger flipper (hired by dad/uncle/FIL's company excluded...sometimes)
Can't really look at this like a normal gig, it's kinda more "What can you make, and how fast can you make it?" that determines your pay, and I'd imagine their in house employees are probably compensated with that in mind. They'd have to be if they wanted to keep them.
I'm not discounting what you know, brother, they're just talking about a different branch there. It's a trained VS trainee thing there, they're addressing the prospective trainees
Oh apprenticeship should pay the master. You don't get paid until you make sellable items.
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No man they pay $12 hour plus $25 bonus for making quota.
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Fast food workers are getting $15 hour plus health benefits in New York.
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I really don't want to say anything bad here. The last person I did that too had vanished. I feel a little guilty about it too.
I promised I would not do that again.
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wait, do they top out at 12? ok, they didn't mention that in their blurb. They mentioned they start apprentices out at $8 when you're still taking out the trash and learning to pull stringers for 2 or 3 months, cutting tube for a month, pulling points for another month, and then moving on to the illustrious mushroom marble.
I can see starting a blower that's new to them at $12 to see what they're actually buying, say for 30-90 days, but beyond that it just doesn't seem like you could keep anyone good for that. There's just too damn much that goes into building the skillset for that to be an acceptable return on investment.
As far as them being pipe makers, they're a pipe shop. When you're on their time, you're a pipe maker, if you want to be an artist that's what your own time is for. Going back to the Fast food analogy, you can't get all Jackson Pollock with the ketchup and mustard while you're on the clock and expect to be kept on :p
But yea, if $12 cap is the case, consider me on your side.
Pipe making is ceramics and it is just as much art as pottery or any other ceramic.
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I start people at pokers then chillums and then spoons. Everyone has to cut there own tubes and pull point for themselves.
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And they pay me until I sell it. Starts at 50 cents a poker.
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Wait, what now? If you're wanting to say something offensive, it's all good, I can go cry in the corner if I need to.
If you're talking about vanishing people, well...I thought we were just talking about whether X company was a bag of dicks or not, but if we're bringing assassins into the debate, its fine! I'll let you win, dude. I'll either have to die or mop if you send 'em, and since I can't decide which I'd rather do on a Sunday, I'll bow out
Oh for sure, I'm on board with it being an art too. But when you're doing a job, it's more using a skill you've picked up as an artist to do a job. Really, whether what you're doing is art or not is all up to the person doing it. When I'm making something because it's what I care about at the time, that's art. If I'm banging things out to someone's specs, I feel I'm doing a job, even if those two things are identical. One came from my passion for the thing, one came from an order form, know what I mean? Again, it's up to everyone to decide what is and isn't, according to how they feel about it. Apart from linguistics and how you're feeling, it really doesn't make a huge difference.
Even if I'm doing a lot of job-type-stuff, I'll still feel like an artist because when something awesome occurs to me, I'll do my best to make it exist. That's enough for me to feel like I can use the label on myself.
A potter make plates and coffees cups all day. He is still an artist.
Just because it's a pipe it's no different.
I don't know why people consider art to be so different. It's not.
A print maker makes 100 of the same prints. It's still art.
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All glassblowers have production and one of a kind. Same thing.
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I think it's a personal fulfillment thing for people. I'll never say someone else isn't an artist, dunno if I made that part clear. My art vs not art considerations are only applicable to myself.
People give artists a bad rap because there is nothing wrong with saying your a musician, but say your an artist? hoo boy, they are gonna want you to be in a museum.
I was thinking that painting is art because it's one of a kind. But really famous paintings are copied all the time. Not to mention that Picasso said there is no need for realistic art anymore because we have the camera. The camera does that so paintings have to be about more. That's why he lived cubism.
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Actually, my point is you don't have to be famous to be an artist, just like you don't have to be famous to be a musician.