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Which pipes.... do you think were monumental in the glass community???
The ones that symbolize, and represent glass pipe culture as a whole....Which pipes were revolutionary for their time?, or pushed the limits of what we thought could be done with glass????????? list or pm your top pipes and glass pipe makers ?? or even 3-5 or your all time favorite pipes that represents the glass pipe community or culture.............. thanks for any opinions in advance all welcome.....
Fuming I still have people asking me about simple fumed spoons. Will it change color? They ask.
Personally for me when I saw what Matt, Steve, and Bronx were doing back in the late 90's with old school I/O line tube and reversals. I still love the look of that tech. The depth is just different.
Monumental pieces of functional art I think RAM is setting the bar for fine art pipes. But there are so many outstanding phenomenal artists in this community, and they are all so different.
Eusheen moved in with me about a year into my glassblowing career. While there, he made his first big-ass bub beerl steez. It's not the sickest piece ever nowadays (compared to his recent work), but have been amazed at what you can do with glass ever sense then. Big ups to Eushy!!
http://www.glasspipes.org/Gal17443__BuRL_sTeeZ_.asp
These days I have feel in LOVE with mickleson's work.
Deppe's orange skull and Jake c's glove are super sick too.
snodgrass skull pipes.
deppes early rainbow pieces.
jps giant super thin reversal pieces. circa 02'-03'
eases giant turtle piece at the 1st bonnaroo. i think eases memory maybe faulty.
banjos reversal work.
clintons sculptural pieces.
slingers blasted work.
Marcel's Godess
Alot of Ivan Barrow's work
Snodgrass's top hat dude, of course. Deppe's rainbow piece with the chains was significant. There's really been all sorts of amazing things in so many directions since then... it's hard to say. I'd have to think about it...
The outsourcing of production to China and India is pretty significant; it forces everyone else to step up their game a bit, and it gives us a good reason to educate the customers and distributors on what makes glass "good." There will always be folks who can't help but push the envelope, but I wonder how many of us would be resting on our laurels pushing out crappy wrap-n'-rakes or i/o spoons if the overseas market hadn't taken that away from us.
Another thing to consider is the advancements in "raw" materials made by color companies. From basic stuff like adventurine, striking colors, and dichro to recent developments like custom lined tubing, layered crucible tubing, and glow glass, these materials change the way we approach glasswork in general. It is a hand-in-hand relationship between the manufacturers coming up with an idea, the artist experimenting with new techniques, the manufacturers refining the idea based on artist feedback, and so on.
Robert Mickelson's AK-47.
deppe has the precision
eush is just amazing at the reversal and diasc thing
banjo for his great imagination and ability to build it
freek is one of my personal favs as well as ghost
salt what can i say luken has pushed the sculpting medium and the work keeps getting nicer and fresher
hamm for the amazing functional aspect that so many have come to copy and admire
laceface is one of the best and so happens a hot chick to boot. her work is pushing alot of boundries
Ya Lowly I hadn't even thought about that aspect. Realy the raw material and tool availability is equally as important as anything.
Cameron's 1st drop stem bub, way back early 90's.
Bubbler
Brian and Yvonne Padilla's fumed montage, mid-late 90's
Brfian Padilla collab
Yvonne Padilla
Yvonne Padilla
ivan and deppe's eye of the flame was the first one that did it for me
check some of the dates on these pieces!
http://www.tokecity.com/forums/showthread.php4?t=41139
(i was just wondering what happened to/with yvonne)
this was the one for me... thanks, brandon martin!
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Suprised no one has mentioned Jason Lee yet, The coolest piece I have seen in person was Adam G and Deppe's skull. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater
It has a tetrahedron inside it that spins when you blow on it
I had the postcard for the Jason Lee "war on art" pipe in my studio for years. It was made after operation pipe dreams and really sent a message. That was an important pipe for our movement.
Also all those old marcel peices with the dolphins and dichroic back around 2001 that really showed what was possible with this media, and pushed people to take it further.
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I'm sure we've all seen this video but I can never get tired of Jason Lees' works of art. And if you've never seen this here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN6sR...e_gdata_player
wow thanks for all the response's reps being added un mystic Morgan you pretty much hit the nail on the head for me...... but love the fucking sicccc old school dotbox some of my fav boxfan i have heard of those glassblowers before......eugene????right?????????
keep it coming guys..... all info is appreciated loltags
the first pipe i saw for sale on dead tour changed my life.
it was a bob and i bough it from him in 92.
the clinton and darby tubes from 96 that they made the "crush" poster out of were the first multisectional heady tubes that i had ever seen.
the darby dichro vac stacked tubing was YEARS ahead of everybody.
the coolest pieces that i ever saw were drew's. so much work in those.
then there was t&m distrubutors, who were probably the first heady distros in the mid 90's and
H franklin gets big ups in my book by creating a vision that created huge distro companies (whether you like them or not)
and of course jason harris
For me, it was the Deppe rainbow piece with the aliens. I saw it at one of the Condie's hemp fests at least 10 years ago right outside of Eugene. These hemp fests were a great showcase of the glass movement at that time with a lot of the best artists bringing their stuff to showcase. They had a few glass competitions which I think might have been some of the first organized comps with glass. They were not flame offs people just brought in their finished work.
Anyway, the point is there was a lot of people pushing the limits then, (the limits were a lot smaller then) but when I saw that deppe piece it was obvious that dude was waaaaaay ahead of the curve. It was huge and clean and had copious amounts of crayon colors when they first hit the scene. Probably one of the first if not the first pipe to command five figures.
Another good story from these shows is about a piece Matt of Eugene Rain made. It was this ridiculously HUGE sidecar/bubbler/jar piece all double layer outside work. The stem was probably 2 1/2 or 3 feet long and the can was equally large. Human lathe shit for sure. Think he entered it in one of the comps actually. I was learning glass from him at the time and hooked him up with a friend of mine who bought the piece for $500. (Actually not sure if the deal went south or not, I think I remember matt telling me the dude still owes him some money for the piece) So, my friend and I were walking around the fest with the piece when another buddy of mine -who has no respect for the value of a dollar- walks up, grabs it and throws it HIGH up into the air. It must have flipped at least twice before it came back down and was caught perfectly by him right at the stem. My friend and I just looked at him with our jaws wide open not believing that he would actually risk $500 for such a silly stunt.
Wow, that must have been my longest post ever. But yeah, def the deppe piece for me.
for me living in bc, redbead glass has changed the glas world here setting the industry standard in my books and the time i first saw a nice glass pipe made by teh guy who made it who started me blowing glass. this forum has changed the glass game so much. same with the internet in general.
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Lot glass was very influential back in the day. Check out what the other gorillas were selling...
Also there was an article in HT called "Glass of 99". Some of the above mentioned players (+ Sizelove) were featured. I had that hanging in my third shop on my 'Wall of Inspiration'. Some of the best I had seen at that point.
Man, its been a fun ride. Props to the entire movement.
The top people that I think are.
Ezra one of the inventors or the line work we see today.
Perdro for his amazing discs and shapes.
Marcel for all his crazy aquatic and dhrico work, one of the best imo.
AK was one that always made the coolist stuff that was way before his time and he used his good old major minor torch for everything.
Bob b for his clowns and inside out work.
Clinton with his pheonix pieces.
Hamm for his crazy water filtrtion pieces.
For me the one person that helped I know our group of homies was Brain from inseration farm in bellingham. He has taught most every style of work in soft and boro, he was a key to opening the doors with what can be done.
Boxfan is also right about the best dotbox ever.
Abe
thanx for all the input guys and keep it coming..........
Hey Abe do you or anyone for that matter have any pics of Ezra or Pedro's work? I've never heard of these guys and would love to see some of there work.
Are they still in the seen?
those guys work was on headys.com back in the day..........there may be some pics on gp.org......
hopefully someone saved the pics somewhere or a national treasure has been lost....... btw where the hell is the love for the gandpa pieces or the brian bates and kevin nail........
Yeah this thread would be way better with pics...
Yeah, Brian Kerkvliet! From Inspiration Farm. I haven't heard his name in years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abe Fleishman
lol glass of 99 remeber that gf purple was featured....too
I think steve gelb needs a mention in this thread. He has been a more low-key piper out there but one of the best imo. There are quite a few guys like him that havent been noticed as much due to the fact that they were or are not on the world wide web as much as others.
gelb was one of my early inspirations...his work was huge back in the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by EFS
I feel like the internet and this forum really help push the glass game up. The cats who have been blowing glass for 5 years with the help of the internet are now at the level of the guys who have been doing it for 10 years. No trial and error, step by step instructions on pretty much every technique out there. Super valuable resource.
^ very true. I wish I would of found this forum or any online help years ago...
I'm going to have to disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by TlkQ
This information is definitely a huge help to those who otherwise would not be in contact with someone to teach them, but becoming a competent flameworker is more than collecting tricks and learning specific techniques. Learning via the internet could never substitute for learning in person from someone who knows what they're doing. Better than nothing, sure. But it's all about putting in the time and gaining an understanding of how glass works, which takes years.
Absolutely. I never said learning solely off of the internet pushed the 5 year artists I'm referring to to the level they are at. I am sure all of them have taken classes with talented artists since they have started. My point is the internet and this forum in particular allows flameworkers to get further in their glassblowing career in their initial couple of years than someone would have been able to get learning on their own with no instruction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo Diddles
Those initial couple of years are incredibly important. All that time the 10-15+ year glassblowers spent developing techniques like simple linework patterns and ISO spoons and such is saved by the newer generations of glassblowers by being able to use the internet to learn how to do it. This allows them to advance their skills at a higher rate.
Also, I'd say the internet is largely responsible for the changing of the "It's my technique and I ain't telling you shit" mentality. Once all of this info got out there I feel like a lot of glassblowers were like fuck it, it's out of the bag now.. Might as well start teaching classes for $$$.
At no point did I imply that the internet is totally replacing in-person instruction. I am saying that thanks to the internet and general availability of instruction, the newer generations of glassblowers are able to progress at a faster rate than the 10-15+ year glassblowers were.
I agree TlkQ I found this place (melting pot) a year ago, and its been invaluable to me. Before last year I had only met a couple other lampworkers in the last ten years. With out internet I would never have found the DFO or this great resource.
I also agree with bo in the fact that with out the struggle of trial and errer I wouldn't have as much understanding of how the glass works. I am shocked tho at how talented some of these new lampers are. But with the resources out there now its no wonder.
Anyone remember that Alien car JC from Ithaca made back in the day? That thing was pimp! There's a lot of JC stuff that should get some props here, but that was just the one that popped into my head.
TlkQ you missed my point, and then you changed yours, but I just don't feel like arguing right now. I stand by my statement.
I do see your point and did not change mine. You are saying that you have to put time in behind the torch to become a competent glassblower, correct? That you can't just read the forums and instantly know how to blow glass.
"...it's all about putting in the time and gaining an understanding of how glass works, which takes years."
You also said that internet instruction does not replace in-person instruction.
"Learning via the internet could never substitute for learning in person from someone who knows what they're doing. "
These are your points right? Just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.
I agree with you on both of those statements. Obviously you have to get the feel of the glass which no website or youtube video can give you.
What if you were starting to blow glass in the middle of no where. Never watched anyone blow glass, and the internet didn't exist as a resource. How many weeks, months, years would it take before you accidentally sprayed some silver on glass and discovered it would color it?
My point is the internet and this forum in particular allows new glassblowers to skip the trial and error portion of their career, thus advancing them at a faster rate than the glassblowers before them. Obviously they still need to get the feel of the glass, nothing is going to change that.
I also never changed my point, simply expanded on it and added a theory about the changing of the glassblowers mindset.